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Gong to have a note 5 and looking for opinions on the best tempered glass screen protector out for it. I don't care much about which brand as I most likely wont be getting official glass at a high cost...
Mime is best available IMHO
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I will post a review tomorrow. Just got it in tonight. Its a glass one
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Mime is best available IMHO
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This Does look really nice! I assume you have used there products before?
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I think I am going to wait till RhinoShield makes one.
I've used several Mime's in the past. I love them except the price is a bit high. Very thin and the feel is smoother than glass.
The Mime for GN5 is not yet available, but should be soon.
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I've used several Mime's in the past. I love them except the price is a bit high. Very thin and the feel is smoother than glass.
The Mime for GN5 is not yet available, but should be soon.
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Actually mine shipped and is going to be delivered Thursday. I like Mime's Feather glass as it's so thin - unfortunately they don't seem to be making it for their newer phones.
I would have preferred iloome or other cheaper, name brands, but Mime was the only known brand who was ready to ship. I've never liked the no name brands on Amazon.
Oh snap, they are now available. I just ordered one. Be here Friday and I will pick up phone Friday as well.
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Gong to have a note 5 and looking for opinions on the best tempered glass screen protector out for it. I don't care much about which brand as I most likely wont be getting official glass at a high cost...
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From another thread
http://www.xtremeguard.com/Samsung-...otectors-p/galaxy-note-5-screen-protector.htm
Not sure how good xtremeguard is, but if you use code WAVE90 you get 90% off store that gets you the spartan tempered glass for $3.50 shipped.
I went through 2 mime ghost glass screen protectors on my gs4. Then I switched to zerolemon less expensive and free replacements . Mime charges half price for thier replacements.
Skinomi glass has halo around the whole phone. Do not order this protector
Same thing with the Mime Ghost glass - halo all around. From experience with the Note 4, I think it's pretty safe to say vendors who have protectors at launch are just guessing. Due to the slight curve, I'm guessing everyone will have to do a new rev now that the phone is out.
I got the Glass ZAGG InvisibleShield from Verizon. It was a bit expensive but there is no halo and it has a lifetime warranty if it starts to come off or anything. It seems to be sticking well with the Otterbox Commuter case.
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I got the ZAGG InvisibleShield from Verizon. It was a bit expensive but there is no halo and it has a lifetime warranty if it starts to come off or anything. It seems to be sticking well with the Otterbox Commuter case.
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Is that glass? I remember my last invisible shield, once you wrote with the 's pen it left indentions in the shield. It showed all you spen writing.
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I got the ZAGG InvisibleShield from Verizon. It was a bit expensive but there is no halo and it has a lifetime warranty if it starts to come off or anything. It seems to be sticking well with the Otterbox Commuter case.
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Yes, I will agree with you that the ZAGG tempered glass from VZW was fantastic on my Note 4. Now that I have the Note 5 I will be getting it again but I am specifically waiting for the privacy tempered glass to come available. Being that I travel frequently the privacy works better for me with wondering eyes
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Is that glass? I remember my last invisible shield, once you wrote with the 's pen it left indentions in the shield. It showed all you spen writing.
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Yes, it's glass and the pen works fine with it on. After reading your post I'm glad BestBuy wouldn't sell me the plastic invisiblesheild on Wednesday when I went there. They said I had to wait until Friday so I went to Verizon and bought the glass instead.
Did anyone try the generic verizon glass screen protector? $40 bucks is too rich for me for a Zagg.
Best Buy went through FIVE Zagg HD Glass before someone stepped in and got it perfect on the first try...the others just didn't know what they were doing.
Zero halo around the edges and zero loose edges.
There was also a video on here of the Supershieldz Ballistic Tempered Glass being installed on the N5 with no halo at all either. Seems we could add that to the list and hopefully as more people acquire the N5 it remains this way
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Did anyone try the generic verizon glass screen protector? $40 bucks is too rich for me for a Zagg.
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I got the verizon generic glass. Comes with a nice halo for free!!
Has anyone installed a full glass screen protector yet? If Yes did it work?
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I'm also interested in a tempered glass protector but I can't find one that had decent reviews. So what gives? What are you guys using? What do you like?
--Mike
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So far they don't work. I bought two. One of them was a super guardz brand and the other a vetroo. The adhesive is only used on the edges and the top and bottom so it's not like the usual tempered glass that sticks to the screen with an adhesive that's all over the protector. They're very flimsy and click a lot and won't work with a case. I preordered the OtterBox defender and I'm waiting the 1-2 months that it will take for it to come. I will be careful until then.
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I had that Nano liquid screen protector on my Nexus 6 and it worked great I did drop it one time and it did not scratch at all. Now will it protect better than a glass one idk. But it's better than nothing.
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I just ordered my new case spigen I have used them since the note 3. Amazing and very nice case. I really need to find a screen protector anyone have any good brands?
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I just ordered my new case spigen I have used them since the note 3. Amazing and very nice case. I really need to find a screen protector anyone have any good brands?
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Xtremeguard wet apps are great for the price and stuck well to the corners. Some cases will still push it up tho.
Skinomi has the best full body protection I've seen so far, but will only work with certain cases too.
Tempered glass protectors have yet to work on any edge device to my knowledge.
Samsung official pet/dry film protectors look like they have a great fit as well, but will have issues with lifting from most cases too.
Hope some of that helps dude.
I'm using Skinomi TechSkin Full Coverage with Spigen Thin Fit case.
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Xtremeguard wet apps are great for the price and stuck well to the corners. Some cases will still push it up tho.
Skinomi has the best full body protection I've seen so far, but will only work with certain cases too.
Tempered glass protectors have yet to work on any edge device to my knowledge.
Samsung official pet/dry film protectors look like they have a great fit as well, but will have issues with lifting from most cases too.
Hope some of that helps dude.
I'm using Skinomi TechSkin Full Coverage with Spigen Thin Fit case.
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Do you have a link? For Amazon?
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KillaHurtz said:
Xtremeguard wet apps are great for the price and stuck well to the corners. Some cases will still push it up tho.
Skinomi has the best full body protection I've seen so far, but will only work with certain cases too.
Tempered glass protectors have yet to work on any edge device to my knowledge.
Samsung official pet/dry film protectors look like they have a great fit as well, but will have issues with lifting from most cases too.
Hope some of that helps dude.
I'm using Skinomi TechSkin Full Coverage with Spigen Thin Fit case.
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Does your s pen leave marks or dents on your screen protector?
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Intub8 said:
Does your s pen leave marks or dents on your screen protector?
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My skinomi is set to arrive Tuesday and I will be doing a video review.
KillaHurtz said:
Xtremeguard wet apps are great for the price and stuck well to the corners. Some cases will still push it up tho.
Skinomi has the best full body protection I've seen so far, but will only work with certain cases too.
Tempered glass protectors have yet to work on any edge device to my knowledge.
Samsung official pet/dry film protectors look like they have a great fit as well, but will have issues with lifting from most cases too.
Hope some of that helps dude.
I'm using Skinomi TechSkin Full Coverage with Spigen Thin Fit case.
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On your recommendation, that's what I'm getting until things shake out a little more. I was going to be patient until my Spigen case came in but it arrived 6 days early, lol! Now I just want to put the Note 4 away and slap a sim in the 7! I could go back to T-Mob and have them put something on, but they just pissed me off!
I have been reading that none of the curved screen protectors out now work. They are saying that they only have adhesive on the sides. Hope they will come out with one that works good.
Screen protector case combos are slim to none on phone. Spigen worked well with the skinomi, leaving edges in tact, however the bezel covers made it much harder (than the s7 edge) to get on. Overall fit and feel are good, providing better clarity and original feel compared to xtremeguard. Product fails for me because it was $30+ and the side protection was useless. I would rather spend my cash with xtremeguard and get quintuple the product. One corner refuses to go down, and is gonna bug the living hell out of me. Definitely paying for the name and advertising with this one.
Will add a few pics later on.
After searching Amazon and other sources, I decided to go with a temporary solution for now. None of the reviews can be trusted yet.
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After searching Amazon and other sources, I decided to go with a temporary solution for now. None of the reviews can be trusted yet.
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I called amazon and theu refunded me the $30 on the skinomi for the extended install time and the bunk quality of the side protection. My advice, go with Xtremeguard, they have kicked /-\$$ in every device I have had and they are beyond afforable.
I took my keys today and put them in the pocket my phone was guess the results? Perfectly fine everyone will believe anything and everything they see get a nice case and you will be fine... this is my 12th galaxy device and by far the freaking best...
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The OtterBox tempered glass screen protector in this video looks interesting because it is cut smaller so it won't interfere with cases. Unfortunately, it is the most expensive of the bunch. (I am not affiliated with the video creator in any way.)
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I took my keys today and put them in the pocket my phone was guess the results? Perfectly fine everyone will believe anything and everything they see get a nice case and you will be fine... this is my 12th galaxy device and by far the freaking best...
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Thanks everyone is tripping about that YouTube video with the scratch test. I don't think I will be scratching my phone with something as hard as the guy in the video did.
I don't know why they are making them without adhesive in the middle.
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I don't know why they are making them without adhesive in the middle.
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I was thinking the same, just doesn't make sense.
Yeah i think we all need to find a screen protector cause excuse my language but this is complete bull****. My phone has so many niks & scratches on it that it sickens me. Not even a wk with this dam thing never touched anything hard, nevet dropped & unless in my hand it sits in my pocket. Sorry but there is no dam reason i should have scratches & niks all over from maybe being in my pocket with some dam change a few times!
http://www.mobilefun.com/64538-olixar-exoshield-tough-snap-on-samsung-galaxy-note-8-case-black.htm
http://www.mobilefun.com/64578-olixar-galaxy-note-8-case-compatible-glass-screen-protector-black.htm
I'm thinking of getting these for the note 8 if it ends up looking like the mock up images (which I think is fairly likely). Any other suggestions? Is anyone else preordering?
Oh yes. I always have screen protector and case in hand before I order any phone.
I just get cheapies to tide me over until what I really want comes out. So far the "MoKo Flexible TPU Bumper" case and the "G-Color (wet application)" screen protector (2-pack).
I assume that Whitestone will release a glass protector in the near future and I like the Samsung Clear View cases. I might be able to order the Clear View case when I pre-order the phone, but you never know, so I spent the $8 on the MoKo case.
Yes I will order good case and screen protector.
Since we have about 2 weeks before the note 8 shows up, I will keep creeping the xda forums for ideas and most likely order thru Amazon a few days before the phone shows up. I am lucky now to not work outside all day so my phones are at less risk.
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Don't order your case from Samsung with the same order as the phone otherwise the phone may get delayed if the case is not available.
I'm buying those cheap deals before launch so that it's not nude when I get it. Then I'll take my time to pick up the better stuff.
I want the Alcantara case
i did...
pre ordered the alcantara case plus the VR headset. will pick up the 360 camera for free through promo.
Just went back and ordered the Alcantara case, really sounds cool, plus I live that material, have seen it in cars before and it's great.
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Yes.
Ordering skinomi screen protectors this week.
The going to perorder the rhinoshield crashguard.
Probably get a cheap ebay rubber case until the rhinoshield shows up (eta is end of sept)
I preordered the black alcantara case, the black protective cover, Spigen black matte liquid air armor case, and the whitestone dome glass screen protector.
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I preordered the black alcantara case, the black protective cover, Spigen black matte liquid air armor case, and the whitestone dome glass screen protector.
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I have yet to see a spot to preorder the Whitestone? Can u give me link?
Whitestone dome glass screen protector
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I have yet to see a spot to preorder the Whitestone? Can u give me link?
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I preordered it here http://www.mobilefun.com/64792-whitestone-dome-glass-galaxy-note-8-full-cover-screen-protector.htm
Are those Whitestone glass screens legit? Seems a little bit gimmicky with uv curing and all.
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Are those Whitestone glass screens legit? Seems a little bit gimmicky with uv curing and all.
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I don't know if it's a gimmick and it does seems a little strange to me. This is my first curved edge phone (had the note 7 for only a short amount of time) that I plan to put a screen protector on. I want to get tempered glass because I want it to be super smooth for S-Pen. I heard that with other protectors they only have adhesive on the edge which can cause a loss in touch sensitivity. I don't know how true it is but I decided to try this one because it has adhesive over the whole thing. I found this video https://youtu.be/-fbZ9HtcYOA to be the deciding factor for me.
The edge screens have made a mess of the screen protector market. Thanks for the link.
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ThePurpleLuigi said:
I preordered it here http://www.mobilefun.com/64792-whitestone-dome-glass-galaxy-note-8-full-cover-screen-protector.htm
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Thanks.
Otter Box and curved glass screen protector.
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I preordered the Grey Alacantra case. I seen that with those cases most of the screen protectors offered will not work
together. I want the Whitestone protector but dont want to waste money if they dont work together.... Any thoughts
on these predicaments?
I'm eyeballing the Whitestone screen protector, but I'll probably get something less spendy to start with, until I determine which case I'm going to get and can confirm that the Whitestone will work with it. I'll likely get a cheapish case (practical, but not fancy) until I see what's available.
Is anyone here using a cheap tempered glass protector and is satisfied with it? By that I mean perfect seal on the sides and no dust has gotten inside the screen area. By cheap I obviously mean side adhesive protectors since I have yet to see a generic version of the Whitestone.
I'm asking because they're not all the same. I bought one for my S8+ and it fully adhered to the sides of the screen. No dust ever got into the screen area.
I bought a 4-pack from a different seller on ebay and I would get dust inside within a day so obviously some use better adhesive than others.
I need to pick up something from Amazon or Ebay quickly. I'm using the Ringke Invisible Defender (garbage) and there's too much friction when scrolling or when using the s-pen.
It's like making love to tree bark.
I'm on my third and they all suck so far. I even purchased a 25 dollar one due to great reviews. It fit great but no glue on the screen so there was a HUGE loss of sensitivity and a lot of "clicking". I just bit the bullet and bought the Whitestone Dome Glass.
I'm on my second one so far and still not happy. I tried one from Poetic and totally sucked. Sucked so bad they e-mailed me lol and said they were sending out replacements.
I'm using one now that's better than the first one but still not happy. This one's by Wellci. It's not great but it's cheap and works pretty good.
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector, Wellci 3D Curved Screen Protector for Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (Ultra Clear) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0751FFHMF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YVZTzbQS3H9G1
I said pretty good.... Not great.
ive tried several, they all peel up on the corners...idk what to do
Weren't they able to pull these off for the 7? Kind of concerned, I bought a wet apply which I haven't opened yet. Seems like the dark ages.
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Weren't they able to pull these off for the 7? Kind of concerned, I bought a wet apply which I haven't opened yet. Seems like the dark ages.
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I have high hopes for the IQ shield wet apply as I had a good experience with the S8+ version. Hopefully they have a matte version.
The Spigen wet apply isn't very good.
But all of these wet apply ones are going to be terrible given the use of the s-pen.
I bought a cheap tempered glass screen protector from eBay hoping it would be ok.
This thread does not inspire hope.
Once my phone arrives, I'll apply the screen protector and report back.
I may be quite angry.
The ONLY one worth a $hit is the whitestone dome glass. All the others are trash plain and simple. I had it on my S8+ and it was perfect and I expect the same out of the note 8 version. I am waiting for mine to come in actually. Should be here by next monday I believe.
Simply use loca octopus glue and a uv light on any of those options. Whitestone replica
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I want to buy Note 8 next week, but before I buy it I want to know the best way to protect this phone.
Regarding the front glass, It looks like none of the conventional tempered glass work well right ? I concluded after reading many previous theads that only Whiestone tempered glasses work. If I am wrong please correct me.
Whitestone is very expensive, I don't live in US and I have no such a thing in my country, so I have to pay its cost + 15 $ for internation shippng, that's 60$ for a tempered glass that is given 3.5 stars rating on amazon, I feel it is a big gamble. I found another company called SGfresh Idea ]that applies the same principle to its tempered glass for 23 $ which is half of what Whitestone asks. Still expensive but If I can guarantee decent result I would give them a try. However I couldn't find any reviews on their product, so If anyone tried Sgfreshidea for their note 8, please share your opinion on them. Their website is sgfreshidea. com
For the back glass, I read many recommendations for Spigen cases, but I hate the shape of their cases. I really like the Alcantara case, but I am not sure if it is enough to give protection to the back glass, any opinions on this case please ?
I also would like to ask about rhinoshield bumpers. There are some famous youtube channels claim that the rhinoshield bumper protect the phone from any fall. They show videos where they throw the phone and do some drop tests but I am not convinced. Does it protect the back and front glass? How does it do so?
Which would be a better option .. Tempered glass + Alcantara case or rhinosheild bumper ?
Thanks in advance
llaass said:
I want to buy Note 8 next week, but before I buy it I want to know the best way to protect this phone.
Regarding the front glass, It looks like none of the conventional tempered glass work well right ? I concluded after reading many previous theads that only Whiestone tempered glasses work. If I am wrong please correct me.
Whitestone is very expensive, I don't live in US and I have no such a thing in my country, so I have to pay its cost + 15 $ for internation shippng, that's 60$ for a tempered glass that is given 3.5 stars rating on amazon, I feel it is a big gamble. I found another company called SGfresh Idea ]that applies the same principle to its tempered glass for 23 $ which is half of what Whitestone asks. Still expensive but If I can guarantee decent result I would give them a try. However I couldn't find any reviews on their product, so If anyone tried Sgfreshidea for their note 8, please share your opinion on them. Their website is sgfreshidea. com
For the back glass, I read many recommendations for Spigen cases, but I hate the shape of their cases. I really like the Alcantara case, but I am not sure if it is enough to give protection to the back glass, any opinions on this case please ?
I also would like to ask about rhinoshield bumpers. There are some famous youtube channels claim that the rhinoshield bumper protect the phone from any fall. They show videos where they throw the phone and do some drop tests but I am not convinced. Does it protect the back and front glass? How does it do so?
Which would be a better option .. Tempered glass + Alcantara case or rhinosheild bumper ?
Thanks in advance
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I've thought about a tempered glass as well but I ended up getting the IP68 rated Punkcase simply because it covers the entire phone, doesn't add too much thickness, finger print still works through the case, wireless charging & Samsung Pay works. I know even though the phone is suppose to be rated IP68, water can get in the charging port and you have to wait about 12hrs before you plug it in to charge. Not that I go near water a lot but I can use my Note as a radio in the shower without worries. Now I would like to try and see if a tempered glass would be thin enough to fit inside of the Punkcase.
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Search Amazon fie full adhesive tempered glass screen protectors. Theres quite a few now. I personally am using the Singularity brand, but I noticed they just raised their price by about $5.
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector, Singularity Products Galaxy Note 8 Full AB Glue Tempered Glass Screen Protector Easy Installation Tray [Case Friendly] 3D Curved Glass Protector Film for Galaxy Note8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GSJ55T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mLGxAbA1YCB78
I'm actually going to switch to the Zagg Curve Elite, which is a full adhesive. Its expensive at $50, but comes with a lifetime warranty. You break it, they replace it. It just costs $6 shipping for the replacement.
As far as cases...I like simple TPU cases. Ringke Air is my favorite.
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I've thought about a tempered glass as well but I ended up getting the IP68 rated Punkcase simply because it covers the entire phone, doesn't add too much thickness, finger print still works through the case, wireless charging & Samsung Pay works. I know even though the phone is suppose to be rated IP68, water can get in the charging port and you have to wait about 12hrs before you plug it in to charge. Not that I go near water a lot but I can use my Note as a radio in the shower without worries. Now I would like to try and see if a tempered glass would be thin enough to fit inside of the Punkcase.
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I am not concerned about water. I am more worried about dropping the phone
Thanks for giving advice.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Search Amazon fie full adhesive tempered glass screen protectors. Theres quite a few now. I personally am using the Singularity brand, but I noticed they just raised their peive by about $5.
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector, Singularity Products Galaxy Note 8 Full AB Glue Tempered Glass Screen Protector Easy Installation Tray [Case Friendly] 3D Curved Glass Protector Film for Galaxy Note8 []https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GSJ55T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mLGxAbA1YCB78
I'm actually going to switch to the Zagg Curve Elite, which is a full adhesive. Its expensive at $50, but comes with a lifetime warranty. You break it, they replace it. It just costs $6 shipping for the replacement.
As far as cases...I like simple TPU cases. Ringke Air is my favorite.
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Thanks for the advice.
are you talking about this from Zagg?
https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invisibleshield/glass-curve-elite-samsung-galaxy-note8
@Mr. Orange 645
do you think Singularity tempered glass would be compatible with Alcantara Samsung Case?
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Search Amazon fie full adhesive tempered glass screen protectors. Theres quite a few now. I personally am using the Singularity brand, but I noticed they just raised their peive by about $5.
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector, Singularity Products Galaxy Note 8 Full AB Glue Tempered Glass Screen Protector Easy Installation Tray [Case Friendly] 3D Curved Glass Protector Film for Galaxy Note8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GSJ55T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mLGxAbA1YCB78
I'm actually going to switch to the Zagg Curve Elite, which is a full adhesive. Its expensive at $50, but comes with a lifetime warranty. You break it, they replace it. It just costs $6 shipping for the replacement.
As far as cases...I like simple TPU cases. Ringke Air is my favorite.
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Do you think the Singularity full adhesive is the same as the other full adhesive protectors? Not withstanding the Zagg Elite which apparently is a new design.
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llaass said:
Thanks for the advice.
are you talking about this from Zagg?
https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invisibleshield/glass-curve-elite-samsung-galaxy-note8
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Yes that's it.
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@Mr. Orange 645
do you think Singularity tempered glass would be compatible with Alcantara Samsung Case?
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I don't have the Alcantara case so I cant say 100%, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. It's pretty case friendly.
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Do you think the Singularity full adhesive is the same as the other full adhesive protectors? Not withstanding the Zagg Elite which apparently is a new design.
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I think they're all the same. I can't say that 100%, but I'd bet they are. These companies on Amazon don't make their own TGSP. They buy them from a supplier and relabel them. Same with tires, paper towels, cereal, milk, etc...