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Need quick advise for a new phone.

Had my ATT SGS5 swiped on Monday night and need to get a new phone asap, so here's my question - given how Samsung started locking bootloaders and doing other nonsense here in US, what would you guys recommend I get, from B&H or another online store.
Criteria would be for it to have lots of development/root, SD slot, and be waterproof similar to how S5 was. Would prefer physical key(s)/scroll pad and VERY good battery life. Budget I would say the lower the better, seeing how S5 goes for ~$200 used, but I'm willing to go up the price ladder for worthy features.

Is this phone still worth buying in Feb/March?

my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.

Ulti2x said:
my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.
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Based on your requirement...3T is definitely a good phone and you can even sell and buy a 4/5 once it releases

Of course it is. Is the best smartphone right now.

had an lg g3 that stopped recognising the sim card. replacing the sim/sd card reader may not fix it. I dont want to waste money. wainting for enough people to vote in order to make a decision. dont mind me

i just bought my op3t coming from a nexus 6p

If you desperately needs a new phone...get the 3/T either one is a great option.
If you can wait, wait. All the new phones are coming out, including OnePlus.

Mine just got delivered today. On a whim, I decided to sell my Nexus 6P last Friday and ordered a 128gb 3T on Saturday. The 6P was a good phone, but 1.5 years old and due to be orphaned by Google in Sept. I needed to sell soon while the 6P still had some resale value, and the 3T beats the Pixel specs in all the ways that matter to me, so that's what brought me over. The 3T is one of the most powerful phones currently on the market (if not THE most powerful phone). They shaved a few corners (speakers and screen resolution come to mind, but screen is still very good), but the processor+ram are an awesome combo. The 3T isn't certified for Google Daydream so if that's important to you take it into consideration. Since your S3 is busted I assume you have a spare that will tide you over? If so, then maybe wait it out a couple of months. If not (or if the spare is garbage) then the 3T is a great phone with superior specs.

I believe that it completely makes sense to buy this phone.
Firstly, it has only been 4 months since this phone was released. And 4 months is the perfect time to evaluate how good the phone is, while it's still considered a newly released phone.
Besides, I don't think there'll be any great change in tech between the 3t and 4/5. It'll just be a slightly better version of the 3t, with slightly faster processor, slightly higher RAM (maybe).
Because of the very low prices, OnePlus isn't very great with their R/D. All their previous phones reflect that. They have always picked a safe design and put good hardware in it.
I think that once phones like iPhone 8 are released, the innovations they come up with become a thing. Like wireless charging?, Fingerprint scanner embedded in three screen?.
Till then, I think the 3t will be a great phone without anything lacking in it.
Given you'll have to wait for the 4/5, and also, you don't know how it'll turn out to be, my suggestion would be to go for the 3t.

Ulti2x said:
my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.
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Did you decide yet, mate?

Ulti2x said:
my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.
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The reason is that it's a proven phone. Good spec, good battery life, god design and awesome charge capacity. You can always wait because there will always be better phones coming but not all phones will be value for money like 3t. Just got it 3 days back.

For y pay for a OnePlus 3 or 3T and the spec you get... I really don't understand why anyone would not buy one. TBH I don't understand why anyone would pay the premium for a 3T when you can pick-up a 3 for less and the spec difference is so minimal. But that's just my opinion

https://swappa.com/buy/oneplus-3-unlocked
~$350 mint
https://swappa.com/buy/oneplus-3t-unlocked
~$400 mint
OnePlus.net
$439 new
People do strange things so it's nice not to have to wonder.

4everxda said:
Did you decide yet, mate?
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Yeah, I am most likely to order it this week , thanks for all your guys' replies!! Any rumors on when the next oneplus phone wold probably come out? The previous phone release dates are pretty inconsistent.

Ulti2x said:
Yeah, I am most likely to order it this week , thanks for all your guys' replies!! Any rumors on when the next oneplus phone wold probably come out? The previous phone release dates are pretty inconsistent.
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One can only speculate
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/oneplus-4-1323943

Ordered mine on Monday. Received on Thursday. Upgraded from Nexus 6 which was my favorite device. Now this is my favorite. It just flies. And I just used my phone for 2 days on a single charge, where my N6 would have died overnight.

Good source for US 3T (A3000) without markup?

Hi folks,
I had just about finalized a decision to buy the US 3T (A3000) but then realized it wasn't available for sale from OP anymore. Looks like the usual outlets such as Amazon are selling them at a marked up price ($493 at the moment) or a bit cheaper but with no warranty (forget that).
IS there a place to get it without markup?
Or is it generally better to wait for support for the 5? Rooting / being able to mod is important to me.
Marc

Frankenscript said:
Hi folks,
I had just about finalized a decision to buy the US 3T (A3000) but then realized it wasn't available for sale from OP anymore. Looks like the usual outlets such as Amazon are selling them at a marked up price ($493 at the moment) or a bit cheaper but with no warranty (forget that).
IS there a place to get it without markup?
Or is it generally better to wait for support for the 5? Rooting / being able to mod is important to me.
Marc
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I Suggest u to get Oneplus 5 with the warranty . TWRP for OP5 was released, u can use magisk to root the OP5 . OP5 has also got some custom ROM also. Initial u can use OOS its very awesome ROM, if want u can flash the custom ROM later. :good:
press the thanks button if i helped u.

Thanks for this. Looks like the 5 has slightly smaller battery than 3T which worried me. But I will look for some comparison reviews.
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To add my two cents, I was in the same boat as you were. I went with the OP3T (128 GB) as I got a used (but in mint condition) one for around $390 on eBay.
Sure, I could have spent around $150 more, but my budget was a hard $400 and I just came under it and I'm happy with it. Both phones are great (at least, I assume that on the OP5 based on most reviews), and the OP3T is still quite relevant.
I like to tinker for sure, but I also need a daily driver with a little power and this is it. It's got the same CPU as my wife's Pixel XL, and her phone is fantastic. If I can get similar performance for around $250 less (hers was also used hence the smaller gap), I'm game. Maybe when OnePlus adds water and dust resistant certification, then perhaps I'll go brand new (OP7 someday?). Until then, I've realized my wallet and mind are happier with saving some money and getting damn good performance.
So check eBay for sure...you'll find a bunch of auctions for the phone. eBay Buy-It-Now listings might still be over $450 for the 128 GB though. Swappa has some as well, but the 128 GB goes over $400 there. Unless I missed it, you looking for 128 GB or 64 GB?

64 GB would be plenty. I don't carry much music around. Might go with 128GB for resale value. The 5 looks nice but I am quite concerned by the reports by some of jello effect scrolling. Seems to be controversial. Never held one in my hand so can't comment whether it would be an issue for me.
Will research while on vacation the next week or so... That delay may push me to the 5 by default as 3T gets scarcer.
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Frankenscript said:
64 GB would be plenty. I don't carry much music around. Might go with 128GB for resale value. The 5 looks nice but I am quite concerned by the reports by some of jello effect scrolling. Seems to be controversial. Never held one in my hand so can't comment whether it would be an issue for me.
Will research while on vacation the next week or so... That delay may push me to the 5 by default as 3T gets scarcer.
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I would say dont take reviews to consideration too much as they review the phone from top to bottom with standard user dont do. Jelly effect hardly visible but lets say you will not like your OP5 because of that you can always return it within return policy. Technically you are losing nothing. If I didn't buy OP3T few month ago I would get OP5 with no questions asked. Your choice of course. Also if you dont want to spend a lot of money and 64gig is enough look into Honor 8 or LG G6 it is 500$ on US T-Mobile

Used is just as good these days...
Frankenscript said:
Hi folks,
I had just about finalized a decision to buy the US 3T (A3000) but then realized it wasn't available for sale from OP anymore. Looks like the usual outlets such as Amazon are selling them at a marked up price ($493 at the moment) or a bit cheaper but with no warranty (forget that).
IS there a place to get it without markup?
Or is it generally better to wait for support for the 5? Rooting / being able to mod is important to me.
Marc
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Try swappa.com, new and used phones for good pricing... In my opinion, better way to buy a new/used phone than ebay.
****, I bought my Midnight Blk 3t on there for just around $400... and of course youll still get warranty since theyre not even 1 yr old.

Thanks guys!
@emarq286, thanks for the swappa recommendation. I've bought and sold a number of phones there. A mint 3T from a rated seller goes in the low $400s, with uncertainty about warranty since I wouldn't have the original receipt. I've had mixed experiences in the past claiming warranty repairs in situations like this. I would have paid the $439 to OP, but not sure I want to pay that much for even one described as mint. I'd rather just get a 5, for a little bit more (except some jelly-related hesitation.... I probably wouldn't notice/care about the visual artifact but have some concern that the resale value of the phone down the road if this is an unfixable thing that bugs a fair number of people.
One other thing: my current phone is a G3, with a QHD display... do you think I'll dislike the somewhat lower res full HD display?

Frankenscript said:
Thanks guys!
@emarq286, thanks for the swappa recommendation. I've bought and sold a number of phones there. A mint 3T from a rated seller goes in the low $400s, with uncertainty about warranty since I wouldn't have the original receipt. I've had mixed experiences in the past claiming warranty repairs in situations like this. I would have paid the $439 to OP, but not sure I want to pay that much for even one described as mint. I'd rather just get a 5, for a little bit more (except some jelly-related hesitation.... I probably wouldn't notice/care about the visual artifact but have some concern that the resale value of the phone down the road if this is an unfixable thing that bugs a fair number of people.
One other thing: my current phone is a G3, with a QHD display... do you think I'll dislike the somewhat lower res full HD display?
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I've had several QHD phones (GS7, HTC10, still own G6), and the 1080p AMOLED of 3t/5 is still AWESOME!
In my honest opinion, only reason you should "need" QHD is for VR... AMOLED makes up for the competitive advantage that most LCD-QHD displays hold over it.
Just my take.

Having had the Moto X Pure and it's display spoiled me a tad, but the silicon (Snapdragon 808 I think) wasn't the greatest (too much lag and both my wife and I had the issue...myself much more than her), so I went back to the OPO. I noticed a difference the first few days, but after that not so much. OP3T is better obviously, and with the OP5 as well, you might see a difference compared to QHD, but it's not that big of a deal.
As for that jelly scroll...personally I've seen it and I don't like it at all. That and the cost is what sealed the deal for in getting the OP3T. Of course, you could have a different experience.
I honestly have not worried about warranty coverage on any phone as I've never ever needed it...though YMMV obviously.

tab s2 vs tab s3

Bought the S2 earlier this year and subsequently lost it an an airport so need a new one. Was going to replace it with the same after getting the insurance money but I have now discovered that the seller I got the S2 from is selling the S3 for about 50 quid more. Is it worth the upgrade? Don't think I will have a use of the pen.

Did you see this thread?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/general/upgrade-to-tab-s3-t3627842

No. Thanks.

Eggstones said:
No. Thanks.
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Also, a lot of buyer reviews over at Amazon (81% are 4 or 5 stars):
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-9-7-Inch-Tablet-SM-T820NZSAXAR/dp/B01MRDL916/

Eggstones said:
Bought the S2 earlier this year and subsequently lost it an an airport so need a new one. Was going to replace it with the same after getting the insurance money but I have now discovered that the seller I got the S2 from is selling the S3 for about 50 quid more. Is it worth the upgrade? Don't think I will have a use of the pen.
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Even though the S3 has many teething troubles, for only £50 more, I'd take the punt. When Samsung sort the problems out, you will be paying a lot more than £50 a few years down the line if you want to upgrade.
Maybe find out what the issues are and ask yourself if any are deal breakers? :angel:

Masteryates said:
Even though the S3 has many teething troubles, for only £50 more, I'd take the punt. When Samsung sort the problems out, you will be paying a lot more than £50 a few years down the line if you want to upgrade.
Maybe find out what the issues are and ask yourself if any are deal breakers? :angel:
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That is just the problem, I don't really know what the niggles/problems are.

Eggstones said:
That is just the problem, I don't really know what the niggles/problems are.
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Time to get yourself to the S3 thread then Eggstones. :highfive:
If you do take the plunge, why not come back here and let us know how you are getting on

Will do. There seems to be a weird magnet issue going on that I don't fully understand.

Go for the S3 as you still have a future software upgrade path. The S2 will likely have come to its final upgrade

ashyx said:
Go for the S3 as you still have a future software upgrade path. The S2 will likely have come to its final upgrade
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Agreed ashyx. :highfive:
One slight chink of light is the fact that the 2016 S2 8" version is still the most recent 8" flagship Samsung device. Maybe it will get its third OS update?

Don't you think 50 quid more is too good to be true?
S3 is a whopping 599.00 and if you shop around maybe you can get it for 540.00 at a pinch. S2 easily get it for 300.00 so if I was offered the S3 for 350.00 I'd be asking some questions .... u less of course you are talking second hand ... but even then.

For me, the S3 is overpriced for what it is. I someone like Huawei got hold of a Samsung OLED panel, it could really upset the market and drive down the price of the S3.

Masteryates said:
For me, the S3 is overpriced for what it is. I someone like Huawei got hold of a Samsung OLED panel, it could really upset the market and drive down the price of the S3.
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Samsung are really taking the 'p' these days, there is no limit to what they think they can charge. The Note 8 had me absolutely gobsmacked at nearly £900. What's next a £1500 phone?
Yeah £600 for a tablet is pretty high and given the features I think it's OTT frankly but if people pay Samsung will continue to dip into your wallet. Embedded batteries makes the £600 or £860 Note 8 still a 2 year deal as batteries don't last and I hate the fact that they did that for the phones in particular - I value my note 4 with spare batteries which I can swap in when needed and there are so many times when not having one would have been a major inconvenience.
I'll look for other brands - it's always best to go with the guys who have to try harder to get your business. When they get to Samsung status it's "take it or leave it" attitude but thats' to be seen everywhere sadly.

louiscar said:
Samsung are really taking the 'p' these days, there is no limit to what they think they can charge. The Note 8 had me absolutely gobsmacked at nearly £900. What's next a £1500 phone?
Yeah £600 for a tablet is pretty high and given the features I think it's OTT frankly but if people pay Samsung will continue to dip into your wallet. Embedded batteries makes the £600 or £860 Note 8 still a 2 year deal as batteries don't last and I hate the fact that they did that for the phones in particular - I value my note 4 with spare batteries which I can swap in when needed and there are so many times when not having one would have been a major inconvenience.
I'll look for other brands - it's always best to go with the guys who have to try harder to get your business. When they get to Samsung status it's "take it or leave it" attitude but thats' to be seen everywhere sadly.
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Agree with everything you say Louis. :highfive:
I bought the Mrs a Huawei mediapad M3 open box for only £142 in the USA a few weeks ago so I will get to see it in person in a few weeks time. With a high end Kirin SoC, 4GB ram things like a brilliant FP scanner and even a notification LED, it could give my S2 a run for its money. The icing on the cake would be an OLED screen but it seems Samsung are not selling these to others at tablet size.

Let's hope it turns out to be good. I think I need to go look at these offerings and see if the screens are a deal breaker or not. I got my tab second hand and because the screen was a good contender for the ipad retina. And I do appreciate it since the tab is my bedtime movie theatre
I'm sure the other guys will catch up .. Hopefully sooner or later, but if I have to stick with Kim Sami I guess I will go the ebay route and hope to find batteries as I did with the tab s.

Question Pixel trade in values

Does anyone remember what Google was giving for the Pixel 6 when the Pixel 7 came out?
It's at a steal @ $449 right now.... actually the same price as the Pixel 6a which is just.. odd I guess. I wonder if they didn't sell as many P7 as they thought?
Anyway, I'm considering buying a 2nd Pixel 7 just to hold onto and trade in for the Pixel 8.
If they offer even $500 I'd consider it worth it..
I do like having a backup device and I really like the Pixel 7.
Maybe I'll wait for the P7a to come out and just see what the price is sitting at then.
I have to admit too that the P7a looks pretty sick even if they are bumping it up $50. Consider it a $50 90Hz charge I guess.
But any info is appreciated.

One more question.
So I have a BEAT up Pixel 5.. like smashed to ****, camera glass is completely off.
However it turns on and works despite all that..
Google is offering $230 for the P5 in this "condition" -- but it only asks 2 questions which is kind of surprising, or on purpose.
Free of cracks -no
Turn on - yes
Can I hear some experiences with the Google trade-ins please by those who've gone this route.
Personally, if they decide it's not worth anymore than say.. idk $150 (OR LESS!), that sucks.
And from what I've read, they will give you Google credit if you cancel, which I think I woud.
Would this credit be able to be used for a device in the future, or is it stuck for apps and games.
Thank you again. Why sit on a beat up P5, if I can get a P7 for around $220... If everything goes according to plan.

I traded in my P6 to Google for a credit of $479 and grabbed a P7 for $499. It's a simple process, really. They'll send you a box, you send your old phone back, they take a look at it, and either give you a credit or a refund to your bank account (they gave me a choice at the time) for the amount they determine. It took about 7-10 days as a transaction.
I believe the credit can be used for a device purchase from their store, apps, or games. As long as you're giving them your $ somehow, that's all they really care about.
*Crafty thinking about stockpiling the P7 for an 8 upgrade

O.J. Simpson said:
I traded in my P6 to Google for a credit of $479 and grabbed a P7 for $499. It's a simple process, really. They'll send you a box, you send your old phone back, they take a look at it, and either give you a credit or a refund to your bank account (they gave me a choice at the time) for the amount they determine. It took about 7-10 days as a transaction.
I believe the credit can be used for a device purchase from their store, apps, or games. As long as you're giving them your $ somehow, that's all they really care about.
*Crafty thinking about stockpiling the P7 for an 8 upgrade
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Let's try to bump this thread a bit. The P7P has its own thread about upgrading to the p8p. So yes if they give me a good deal on the P8 like they did*for* the P7 trade-in then for sure the P8 will be pre-ordered. Especially if the size is 6.1 as reported. I actually forgot exactly what I got for it but I don't think I paid more than 200 and possible less after trade-in. Sending it back was painless and I got my credit within a week. Plus I got another 100 for my friend buying one albeit on the Google store for whatever. And my wife got one too for her P5 which I'm sure she'll want to trade-in as well since it's a little big for her.

might not be directly relevant to you but I just ordered pixel 7 in UK on the following terms:
-phone costs £550;
-iphone 13 trade in valued at £580.
so I should be getting a refund of £30 in the form of store credit which looks like a great deal.

I was a little apprehensive about dealing with Google because they can have - to be polite - not the greatest customer service if you have a technical issue (Google Fi issues in the past, don't get me started...arrrrgh...t-mobile to the rescue) But the trade in process was easy and I have no complaints.
Love my p7 - it's my best phone since my Galaxy Nexus from back in the day of the swappable battery. I know there are better phones out there, but for the price you can't beat the p7 & hopefully the p8 is better.
They are on the right path, and as long as Google doesn't "Google" (aka, ditch a good product before it's had time to mature and gain market share) they can achieve the success they've been looking for with their Pixel lineup. The G3 chip or even G4 chip can be a game changer for them, but they have to keep the investment $ coming in. You have to spend $ to make $, but as of now they will be getting my $ because I like what I'm getting.

O.J. Simpson said:
I was a little apprehensive about dealing with Google because they can have - to be polite - not the greatest customer service if you have a technical issue (Google Fi issues in the past, don't get me started...arrrrgh...t-mobile to the rescue) But the trade in process was easy and I have no complaints.
Love my p7 - it's my best phone since my Galaxy Nexus from back in the day of the swappable battery. I know there are better phones out there, but for the price you can't beat the p7 & hopefully the p8 is better.
They are on the right path, and as long as Google doesn't "Google" (aka, ditch a good product before it's had time to mature and gain market share) they can achieve the success they've been looking for with their Pixel lineup. The G3 chip or even G4 chip can be a game changer for them, but they have to keep the investment $ coming in. You have to spend $ to make $, but as of now they will be getting my $ because I like what I'm getting.
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Kind of veering off topic a bit but we can keep the thread going since the 7a is coming out tomorrow and the P8 probably in October. I agree the P7 is the best I've had since probably the P5 and before that the 5X or Nexus OG. So I'll keep it if the P8 doesn't give the discount that the P7 did. I think I paid $100 after trade-in on my P6a. So if the 8 is smaller or even close to my P5 I'm all in. If it's the same size as the 7 I'll wait until they make me a deal I can't refuse.
As for Fi, that was a disaster albeit a good idea that never materialized. The support was non existent and now they can't even get the eSim working reliably without trashing the EID on the phone requiring a replacement. Ahh.. the replaceable battery, the good ol' days. But not waterproof so there's that too. The trade-in for both the P6a and the P5 (wife) to the P7 was flawless for me too.