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Hey guys,
Posted a similar question on the official google help forum but don't expect an answer to arrive from there any time soon. I got my new N1 last week, and was excited to set it up with google voice. I bought it unlocked from google (needed a prepaid plan). Set it up so all my outgoing calls are routed through GV, and it was working fine up until today.
Today, I tried to make a call from outside of my apartment. I have wifi in my apt, and the N1 is connected to the network whenever I'm at home. However, the call from outside didn't go through. Like I said, I have a prepaid plan from tmobile ($50/mo for unlimited text and talk but no data). I tried calling from various locations and with different settings, and pinpointed the problem to not having a wifi connection.
So the question is: does google voice need wifi/data to connect? I seem to remember using it last week with wifi turned off from my apartment and was able to place calls just fine. Doesn't seem to be the case any more. Doesn't really make sense though, because GV isn't a VOIP service either way..
Thanks for any help
Yes google voice need wifi/data to connect.
vadox6466 said:
Hey guys,
Posted a similar question on the official google help forum but don't expect an answer to arrive from there any time soon. I got my new N1 last week, and was excited to set it up with google voice. I bought it unlocked from google (needed a prepaid plan). Set it up so all my outgoing calls are routed through GV, and it was working fine up until today.
Today, I tried to make a call from outside of my apartment. I have wifi in my apt, and the N1 is connected to the network whenever I'm at home. However, the call from outside didn't go through. Like I said, I have a prepaid plan from tmobile ($50/mo for unlimited text and talk but no data). I tried calling from various locations and with different settings, and pinpointed the problem to not having a wifi connection.
So the question is: does google voice need wifi/data to connect? I seem to remember using it last week with wifi turned off from my apartment and was able to place calls just fine. Doesn't seem to be the case any more. Doesn't really make sense though, because GV isn't a VOIP service either way..
Thanks for any help
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Yes you must have data to get a gv connection from the application. BUT if you desperately need to use gv w/o data you can dial your number and connect to gv then place the outgoing call through that. This way you can use it while only on gsm Its a hassle but if youre desperate its a solution.
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Yes you must have data to get a gv connection from the application. BUT if you desperately need to use gv w/o data you can dial your number and connect to gv then place the outgoing call through that. This way you can use it while only on gsm Its a hassle but if youre desperate its a solution.
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Didnt think of that one..+1 to you
now that the topic is here, a little off topic but how do u use google voice? doesnt it like put your voicemail as a text message or email n send it to u? i tried sending a voicemail to myself through a different number but i got nothing. how does this work?
Just so you know, making calls through Google Voice still uses minutes (it calls to an access number, and then connects the call to the intended party).
pakraider said:
Just so you know, making calls through Google Voice still uses minutes (it calls to an access number, and then connects the call to the intended party).
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Good to note anyway, but miketlo's tip was to get around the fact that the GV dial-out requests are sent over data, not to get around using minutes. Similarly, you can add the 406-xxx-xxxx number that corresponds to each of your contacts and text/call that. This of course is a pain to set up, you can't use the GV app to do it, and you use texts/minutes from your plan, but it works. That's the way I did it last year when I still had a feature-phone.
anstosa said:
Good to note anyway, but miketlo's tip was to get around the fact that the GV dial-out requests are sent over data, not to get around using minutes. Similarly, you can add the 406-xxx-xxxx number that corresponds to each of your contacts and text/call that. This of course is a pain to set up, you can't use the GV app to do it, and you use texts/minutes from your plan, but it works. That's the way I did it last year when I still had a feature-phone.
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Yep, I hear ya. I just said it because the OP indicated that they were on a prepaid plan.. so wanted to make sure they knew that GV isn't some sort of VoIP application. (making calls will chew up their prepaid credit)
For "true" calling over wifi, you need Sipdroid/fring.
Add inbound and outbound numbers to friends and family plan. Minutes won't be used or billed.
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I currently have the HTC hero sprint and i use google voice to make all of my calls and sms, is there a google voice app for windows phone 7 as well?
All i want to be able to do is get a data only plan and use google voice to make my calls and texts for free
There's a few out there on the marketplace, however if you want to get device you'll need to purchase it at full MSRP or else the carrier will require you to choose a voice and data plan and get the device at the subsided price.
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There's a few out there on the marketplace, however if you want to get device you'll need to purchase it at full MSRP or else the carrier will require you to choose a voice and data plan and get the device at the subsided price.
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I just checked out T-Mobile's website and it when I choose the plan for data only it sends me to the phone options which include the HD7 for $99
So is there a way to make calls with the data only plan by using Google Voice?
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So is there a way to make calls with the data only plan by using Google Voice?
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From my understanding, No you cannot. Google voice still uses the voice connection because you have to dial in to a number. I have an Evo that I use google voice on all the time. It is currently shut off (because my roommate refuses to pay his half) and I cannot make calls using google voice due to it needing to make a connection with the voice network, not data.
krillik08 said:
From my understanding, No you cannot. Google voice still uses the voice connection because you have to dial in to a number. I have an Evo that I use google voice on all the time. It is currently shut off (because my roommate refuses to pay his half) and I cannot make calls using google voice due to it needing to make a connection with the voice network, not data.
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I came from Android and I know how Google Voice works. You can make calls using SIP (something like Sipdroid coupled with Sipgate) and GVcallback and you can make wifi calls without needing a voice plan. I was wondering if there is something similar for WP7.
cnico88 said:
I came from Android and I know how Google Voice works. You can make calls using SIP (something like Sipdroid coupled with Sipgate) and GVcallback and you can make wifi calls without needing a voice plan. I was wondering if there is something similar for WP7.
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There is no socket API available at this time. So, VoIP calls are not possible.
foxbat121 said:
There is no socket API available at this time. So, VoIP calls are not possible.
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like he said.
And on t-mobile, even wifi calling that is android only at the moment, uses minutes from what I've read.
So here's my problem: I dont wanna hear that you cant do it, but there has GOT to be a way to make phone calls over a 4G network. I dont care if I have to download an APP, a PROGRAM, or if I have to go MAD SCIENTIST on this thing. Any help you can give me will be GREATLY appreciated and if you could post a step by step guide for people having the same issue then that's even better.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Google Voice doesnt seem to work independently. It doesnt notify you when someone is calling and doesnt seem to have the ability to make outgoing calls.
Tried SipGate but only to find out that they have no more numbers in my area (that was a KILLER)
I'm currently able to make calls on Skype BUT ONLY on a Wi-Fi connection (limited).... I need 4G network calling (everywhere)
Anything you can do guys, this has been a thorn for many people and there arent many things out there that show you how to set it up.
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So here's my problem: I dont wanna hear that you cant do it, but there has GOT to be a way to make phone calls over a 4G network. I dont care if I have to download an APP, a PROGRAM, or if I have to go MAD SCIENTIST on this thing. Any help you can give me will be GREATLY appreciated and if you could post a step by step guide for people having the same issue then that's even better.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Google Voice doesnt seem to work independently. It doesnt notify you when someone is calling and doesnt seem to have the ability to make outgoing calls.
Tried SipGate but only to find out that they have no more numbers in my area (that was a KILLER)
I'm currently able to make calls on Skype BUT ONLY on a Wi-Fi connection (limited).... I need 4G network calling (everywhere)
Anything you can do guys, this has been a thorn for many people and there arent many things out there that show you how to set it up.
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download sipdroid, and when you set it up go to the bottom and click, link with google voice. I am making calls over 4g, just cant receive.
I currently have the sipdroid app, however I have no idea how set it up with the right settings to connect it with my google voice. If you could help me out, I would seriously appreciate that.
blazephilly21 said:
I currently have the sipdroid app, however I have no idea how set it up with the right settings to connect it with my google voice. If you could help me out, I would seriously appreciate that.
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Blaze what part of Philly?
Ok so currently I've gotten Sipdroid working and making calls over the 4G network. However, when calling over the 4G network the calls are choppy and full of static to the person on the other end. On my end though, the call is perfectly clear.
I've tried altering the Audio/Video options (turning them all on low, turning them on high), messing with the Audio Codecs (turning them all on NEVER except GSM 13kbit), and turned off the improve audio option. However my calls still remain the same.
Has anybody figured out to completely clear up Sipdroid calls over 4G? Is there any other APP i can download to complement the clarity of the call?
Sipdroid works perfect with google voice. I can make call to any part of the world!!! Hell yesssss!!! You can try. Troubleshoot?? Ask us!!!
Yes, but how are the calls over a 4G network? If they're clear, I'd like to know how if possible.
Does Sipdroid work for making as well as receiving calls over 3G/4G?
Yes, Sipdroid works for me over Tmobile's 4G network, but it sounds choppy to ppl on the other end. Through a Wi-Fi connection though it sounds prefect.
Waiting on Skype personally here. And what was that other program people are talking about? Tango?
naucas said:
Sipdroid works perfect with google voice. I can make call to any part of the world!!! Hell yesssss!!! You can try. Troubleshoot?? Ask us!!!
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any part of the world? I tried to call london and I got a message saying I didn't have enough credits. I think for international calls you have to have $ on your google voice account as it uses GV to make the international call. Unless there is another way
hrm I may have to try sipdroid then. =) Does google talk allow for you to have a phone number like skype does?
not sure this has been answered. but
just tested, I CAN receive incoming calls when my Sipdroid is on (green light) and if anyone calls my google voice number.
i mean, getting everything connected isnt the problem. there's plenty of guides online to help you do that with different apps. my problem is the call clarity over T-Mobile's 4G network when using sipdroid + google voice. On my end the calls are clear and perfect, but when I start talking the listener hears choppy words and static. Does anybody have ANY kind of solution to this issue??? Much appreciated.
blaze, I know you've asked this a bunch of times, so I'll venture a potential solution.
Who's your SIP provider? I've used pbxes and had very clear calls on my Droid, even over 3G. Maybe try changing up your SIP provider.
I can send and receive calls over sip Droid and gvoice. Works perfect on wifi have not tried cell network.
@ Z4nd4r
I use the same thing (sipdroid + pbxes) But I've basically given up on the call clarity over 4G and am looking for a supplemental phone now. It could be the strength of your network. Unfortunately with T-Mobile in Philadelphia on 4G, I'm thinking its just gonna be this way. Unless you have a settings tweak.
can someone post there guide to have this working for everyone
I have the guide and everything...its all set up. My issue is CALL CLARITY. Are you using yours on T-Mobile's 4G network. Cause its choppy as hell when I use it for the person on the other end. Clear for me, Static for them
On Wi-Fi it works fine...on 4G, not so much
IF YOU EVER WORRY ABOUT USING UP YOUR 100 MINUTES AND DON'T WANT TO SET UP A SIP ACCOUNT, KEEP READING.
***THIS APPLIES IF YOU HAVE A GOOGLE VOICE NUMBER THAT YOU CONSIDER YOUR PRIMARY NUMBER***
So I know everybody and his/her mothers already knows about the beauty of Tmo's $30 prepaid plan, which comes with 5 GB of LTE data (2G after that), 100 minutes, and unlimited text. I just wanted to add a tip that I thought might come in handy.
My personal situation is the following:
--->Tmo subscriber with Nexus 5 and two phone numbers: Google Voice and Tmo. (I have LTE coverage virtually everywhere I live. No hit or miss.)
--->Ported my old Sprint number over to Google Voice. This is the only number I give out. I don't mind not having full MMS functionality just yet (I can receive MMS from other Tmo subscribers). My Tmo number is just linked to my Google Voice account.
--->I have Hangouts and Google Voice apps/extensions installed everywhere and anywhere: Nexus 10, Nexus 5, laptop, work PC, etc.
--->I have a yearly subscription with Skype ($30/yr) that I use to make calls over LTE. I like the integration with my phone, especially when I use Google to make calls with the "OK Google" detection. The Skype Dialer always comes up as an option, and I'm allowed to decide whether to make calls over Skype or via the phone. (This allows me to show either my Google Voice number or Tmo number).
So my personal setup usually involved answering the calls over Hangouts via my PC, since I always had access to the internet via WiFi or LAN.
But now with the Hangouts and Google Voice integration, I let Hangouts ring whenever people dial my Google Voice number, and I set Google Voice to not ring my personal Tmo number anymore. Whereas I used to debate about whether or not to set up a SIP account, now I don't need one. Hangouts will automatically ring my phone whenever people call my Google Voice number, and whenever I answer the calls, they are automatically answered over LTE. No more worrying about using up my 100 minutes.
This, of course, depends on the user having guaranteed LTE, HSPA+, or even decent 3G everywhere.
With regards to the Skype subscription, I may or may not get rid of it. I like being able to dial using my voice, and the Hangouts Dialer currently doesn't appear as an option for making calls whenever I issue the voice command.
Hope somebody found this useful. Comments welcome.
Been doing something similar since Google updated Hangouts—particularly since my home office is in the basement and I get poor T-Mobile (same prepaid plan) coverage there. Go Google!
BinkXDA said:
Been doing something similar since Google updated Hangouts—particularly since my home office is in the basement and I get poor T-Mobile (same prepaid plan) coverage there. Go Google!
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Sounds like a plan! I just hope that the devs can hammer out a few of the minor issues with Hangouts, specifically the lag. All in good time though. Happy to have what I got so far!
I also disabled forwarding to my sip did and tm #. Hangouts/GV is doing just fine on its own.
Does someone knows if the Google Voice app now can be uninstalled? Will I be able to make and receive calls with my Google voice number from the Hangouts without G.Voice app?
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Does someone knows if the Google Voice app now can be uninstalled?
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You shouldn't uninstall the voice app as it's still needed for other apps trying to use a dialer.
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I just hope that the devs can hammer out a few of the minor issues with Hangouts, specifically the lag.
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Outside of call setup, I have no lag! That said, Hangouts does seem to use FAR more of the battery for calls compared to the built-in Internet calling.
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Does someone knows if the Google Voice app now can be uninstalled? Will I be able to make and receive calls with my Google voice number from the Hangouts without G.Voice app?
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I guess it depends on how you want to make and receive calls.
I uninstalled the Google Voice app because it no longer receives my SMS messages. The messages automatically get forwarded to Hangouts.
Furthermore, I don't make calls using the stock dialer app, so I don't have a need to make calls from my phone via Google Voice. (I don't need Google Voice to generate an automatic number for the person I wish to call anymore. This issue led me to saving two numbers for every contact: one labeled as their "true carrier" number, and one labeled as the Google Voice assigned number that I would see on my phone.)
If you still intend to make calls using the stock dialer, I'd say leave Google Voice installed. If you don't plan on making calls through the stock dialer anymore, but instead wish to make and receive calls via Hangouts only, then it should be OK to uninstall.
***NOTE: Be sure to check the two boxes in the Hangouts App settings labeled "Incoming Phone Calls" and "Messages" under
Settings->"[email protected]". If you don't want your phone to ring twice for every call, you need to disable forwarding of calls to your carrier number through the Google Voice website settings, under the tab "Groups & Circles". Be aware that your phone WILL NOT RING THROUGH THE STOCK DIALER APP ANYMORE if you disable the call forwarding. It will ONLY RING THROUGH HANGOUTS, which requires an active internet connection.***
BinkXDA said:
Outside of call setup, I have no lag! That said, Hangouts does seem to use FAR more of the battery for calls compared to the built-in Internet calling.
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Hmmm.. Interesting. The only lag I see is in the amount of time it takes to launch the app and allow me to open up/tap a conversation. At first I had a few crashes when I would try to open up a convo pretty fast, like immediate tapping on the screen as soon as Hangouts launched. The crash issue seems to be resolved with the update. Perhaps it is an issue with my personal setup. I'm running rooted/stock/Franco kernel/Dalvik.
Still uses minutes
I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
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I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
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I have the same plan. Hangouts does not use your plan minutes—just data. That said, T-Mobile does have a special Wi-Fi Calling option, which does use minutes, but it’s not available on the N5, at least not at this time.
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I have the same plan. Hangouts does not use your plan minutes—just data. That said, T-Mobile does have a special Wi-Fi Calling option, which does use minutes, but it’s not available on the N5, at least not at this time.
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Are you rooted or something? I have a moto x and running 4.4.4. I just put $10 dollars into my account yesterday and have using google hangout dialer exclusively and now am down to $3. I had a chat with T-Mobile just now and the rep confirmed that it does use minutes. What am I missing here? The rep even credited me $7 for the confusion that I thought it would use data not minutes. She said that on the post pay plans it does not use minutes.
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Are you rooted or something? I have a moto x and running 4.4.4. I just put $10 dollars into my account yesterday and have using google hangout dialer exclusively and now am down to $3. I had a chat with T-Mobile just now and the rep confirmed that it does use minutes. What am I missing here? The rep even credited me $7 for the confusion that I thought it would use data not minutes. She said that on the post pay plans it does not use minutes.
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Nope. Not sure what’s going on—unless somehow your T-Mobile number is involved. Hangouts simply uses data so I’m uncertain why your minutes are being decremented.
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Nope. Not sure what’s going on—unless somehow your T-Mobile number is involved. Hangouts simply uses data so I’m uncertain why your minutes are being decremented.
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I even tried putting it in airplane mode and turning wifi on and it wouldn't connect. Can you do that and it works?
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I even tried putting it in airplane mode and turning wifi on and it wouldn't connect. Can you do that and it works?
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Weird. I don’t have cell service in my basement, but do have Wi-Fi there, and I have zero issues making calls from Hangouts.
Is there a way to purchase this plan before going to the US? I'm planning a trip and will need this as soon as I arrive.
Thanks in advance!
ps: I already have a gv #, everytime I travel to the us I have to go to a mall, explain that I need a short term plan, get the sim chip, wait for it to work, call t-mobile complaining that I've run out too quickly... lol
seagood3 said:
I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
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The only way this would be happening is if you're not really using the hangouts dialer, but using the Google voice app which integrates with the regular dialer on the phone. In that case it will use minutes, because you're using the regular dialer (ie minutes) where calls are being routed through to Google voice.... not the same as using the hangouts dialer directly.
seagood3 said:
I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
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If you use Hangouts to dial phone numbers, it should not use your minutes. I had this $30 T-Mo plan for a while now and been using it with the 5GB just fine.
One way to check is using the Android Phone Dialer app (NOT Hangout dialer) and dial...
1. Check for minutes: dial #646# (#MIN#) then hit the talk button
2. Check for data usage: dial #932# (#WEB#)
You should see your data usage going up and talk minutes should remain low.
I would make sure hangouts and voice are updated and that you have hangouts dialer installed. Make sure that under settings in hangouts is showing your gvoice number and if you open voice that it let's you know that hangouts had taken over. Use the dialer to make a call that will be easy for you to see the caller ID. Your gvoice number should show up.
i dont have GV....
i do have Tmo $30... i love i can call everyone now over LTE since now calling my parents once wont kill my 100 minutes....BUT, people i call see "UNKNOWN" on their caller ID when i called via Hangouts... thats the only thing that sucks for me because most of people wont answer those types of calls, i have to text them before calling saying to expect it.
wish there was a way to set a ANI number on hangouts to show my number
I have a Sony Z Ultra, and have been disappointed at the lack of a successor, and the ME572CL looks really good for the price. Can it be used as a phone?
thanks!
speculatrix said:
I have a Sony Z Ultra, and have been disappointed at the lack of a successor, and the ME572CL looks really good for the price. Can it be used as a phone?
thanks!
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No,But can sent SMS.
thanks for that
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thanks for that
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This is a CL version NOT a C version of ME572, so it can be used as a phone !!!!:laugh:
Yes
How did you manage to call from it?
I've been wondering this for over a year.
Of course i can call from it using viber, whatsapp, skype etc, but using the actual gsm line to make a REAL phone call.
If i can send text messages then it should be obvious that i can call from it, text messages use gsm line not data.
Waiting the answer from ASUS also...
Yes, you can use it as a mobile phone.
I make rom with call support: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=640814&st=3600#entry57500611
Works as. a phone with FreedomPop
I just got a ASUS Memo 7, and use it as a phone with with my FreedomPop SIM. Here in FL, FreedomPop uses the AT&T network, so it works fine. You need to download the FreedomPop Messaging app, which can send SMS texts or make phone calls. Technically, the FreedomPop Messaging app is a VOIP app, but it uses the AT&T mobile network as the internet connection, you don’t need to be connected to WiFi at all. Best of all, FreedomPop is free for the first 200 minutes of phone calls, per month. FreedomPop also gives you 200MB of free data, which isn’t much... but is just enough for me to use the full functionality of the Waze GPS app in my car. So now, with the ASUS Memo 7 and FreedomPop, in my car I now have a full featured internet-connected GPS, which I can also use to make an emergency phone call if I need to