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Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
Would be good if the 910G snapdragon variant actually got lollipop....
**** Samsung, getting iPhone 6 soon if LP is not released anytime soon!
Mate that's a crazy thing to say... I would still prefer 4.4 then own another iphone
Agreed, at least some info would be nice. I'm running lollipop on a few of my other devices now, the note 4 is lagging behind
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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I'm over Samsung ... I never even hardly use the damn pen anymore anyway. I promise myself I will not be back again. This BS with a million models and other crud... NO GOOD SAMSUNG!
oh stop bull****ting .
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
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Hoping for honesty from the PR arm of an international chaebol is like nicely asking a stone if it wouldn't mind bleeding a bit. It also assumes that they are even remotely interested in providing these kinds of updates, that they communicate with the developers, and that they have that information in the first place. They've done their job already - you've bought a Note 4, so why should they care? Besides which, if they've already stated a timeframe previously, and been unable to meet it, they're going to be very cautious about announcing anything else apart from "it'll be ready when it's ready", and even that is unlikely compared to simply remaining silent.
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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This is totally true....why get a device like the Note 4 if you are ok with Gingerbread...I don't understand people who get such a good phone and don;t know how to eve use it...but rather use it for calls and messages only...
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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I sincerely hope this post is a joke; if I merely cared about apps I'd own an iPhone.
I bought a 800€ smartphone i espect to have the lastest and best software. Thats why so many people is going from android to iOS. If you have a iPhonne 6+ you have the lastest iOS. Next time a change smartphonne i am going to think twice before have Android or iOS, and for me Nexus line are no option, ugly and overrated. For me Samsung or HTC or LG (this two allready have 5.0 Lolipop)
I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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why i want lollipop and Samsung to treat us better
based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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iPhone are great for fluidity and fast updates, but they lack the customization and freedom that android offers even with Jailbreak.
Also , I don't know if you need glasses or not, but the note 4 camera beats the iPhone any day in good light situations...both in photos and videos.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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Yeah I didn't have major problems but the battery is worse and it just wasn't as smooth and quick as it was on kitkat. I didn't have the app redraws that others had but I put that down to a full wipe before and after the update.
This place is dead. Generic S6 forum is not much better. We have root, but nobody is doing anything with it.
Yeah.. it's seriously making me think of switching devices. I'm used to many custom roms, unlocked bootloaders, xposed, etc.. and this isn't cutting it for me. Sure, great device but.. I'm just not feeling it.
What is it you are wanting? We have cleanrom and a few other debated options and an available framework to let you customize the crazy outta your touchwiz. As far as AOSP or CM, give it time. It's a new device, a lot of hands are on it and after some time, more options will be available. When I bought my G2 on release day, it was a month before root and another before good rom options showed up and even longer before stable rom options we're brought to the table.
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I don't understand why people buy a phone like this an expect a ton of development on it. Everyone knows AT&T locks bootloaders so there will be no AOSP ROMS for this device, especially with it packing an exynos processor. The root exploit has been patched in 5.1.1 so don't expect root unless you plan on tripping KNOX or never upgrading again. People really need to do research before they go out and buy a phone. If you need that much development, buy a nexus.
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I don't understand why people buy a phone like this an expect a ton of development on it. Everyone knows AT&T locks bootloaders so there will be no AOSP ROMS for this device, especially with it packing an exynos processor. The root exploit has been patched in 5.1.1 so don't expect root unless you plan on tripping KNOX or never upgrading again. People really need to do research before they go out and buy a phone. If you need that much development, buy a nexus.
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Exactly. I knew this going into getting another ATT phone (Active). It was either getting a phone I knew would work out of the box or getting a toaster oven with an 810 SOC. HTC and LG both failed this year IMHO and OPO2 will also be throttling back the 810 2.1 SOC. I wanted the active because of the bigger battery, but if those wanted ROMs on a S6 they should have just bought an international model outright.
I bought this phone expecting no development. The fact there's even root and roms for it is more than enough for me.
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I bought this phone expecting no development. The fact there's even root and roms for it is more than enough for me.
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I went from a Nexus 5 (chronic flasher) to a no root Note 4 (now obviously s6) and I discovered that not having root or a million roms to flash caused almost zero issues. Having root and debloated roms on the s6 makes me completely happy. I just flashed XtraStoLite and it's awesome, even more customization and you choose only Samsung apps you want.
I haven't even rooted yet. Works fine for me. First phone I didn't root right away.
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I haven't even rooted yet. Works fine for me. First phone I didn't root right away.
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Yeah, the issues that made me feel like I absolutely had to root in the S4, S5, N4 are pretty much non issues with the S6 so I'm happy not rooting.
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What is it you are wanting? We have cleanrom and a few other debated options and an available framework to let you customize the crazy outta your touchwiz. As far as AOSP or CM, give it time. It's a new device, a lot of hands are on it and after some time, more options will be available. When I bought my G2 on release day, it was a month before root and another before good rom options showed up and even longer before stable rom options we're brought to the table.
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What is the available framework you speak off
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What is the available framework you speak off
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Probably the built in themer.
For everyone: when you buy a phone with a locked bootloader, you buy a phone that will have very limited development support (if a hack is found all the better, but don't count on one being found, they ain't easy to find). If you buy a Lamborghini are you going to complain you can't put the turbo you saw on your friends Mazda on it?
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What is the available framework you speak off
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/general/xtrestolite-rom-att-s6-t3140354 its a universal rom and it's pretty awesome.
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Alliance Framework and soon 3minit. You just need to flash a deodex ROM and to top it off, we are now seeing that you can flash roms from the international thread. I will attempt this myself 4th of July weekend and post videos on my channel if successful.
Honestly I think it's quickly getting to the point where rooting will be an afterthought. I rooted my S6 Edge and flashed back to stock within a week.
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Alliance Framework and soon 3minit. You just need to flash a deodex ROM and to top it off, we are now seeing that you can flash roms from the international thread. I will attempt this myself 4th of July weekend and post videos on my channel if successful.
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It's not hard, most are just an Aroma installer. I'm running one and it works great. The only weird thing was the Aroma installer screen flashes while you're selecting options you want to add/remove. I have an ATT S6 as well.
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It's not hard, most are just an Aroma installer. I'm running one and it works great. The only weird thing was the Aroma installer screen flashes while you're selecting options you want to add/remove. I have an ATT S6 as well.
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So I can Flash the deodexed ROM linked earlier with Flashfire then add the alliance framework with flashfire too? Still Kinda new to this(Had the s4 rooted and never flashed anything till after getting the s5 which was rooted with a custom ROM) and it seems like its a different method every phone. Im trying to read up on the different threads but dont have much time usually. Need to take a day and figure it out. Thanks for the help.
I'm not asking for cm or aosp (neither appeal to me), and neither do i want some shoddy kludged together community rom.
What I'd like is to see something like Xposed,,which works without issue on a completely stock+root install.
I've been doing this since the G1 days, and i just dont have the time or patience for it anymore. I have a hobby that to me, is far more satisfying and fun than jacking around with phones.
All i really want is to remove the volume warning and the redundant wifi notification.
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I'm not asking for cm or aosp (neither appeal to me), and neither do i want some shoddy kludged together community rom.
What I'd like is to see something like Xposed,,which works without issue on a completely stock+root install.
I've been doing this since the G1 days, and i just dont have the time or patience for it anymore. I have a hobby that to me, is far more satisfying and fun than jacking around with phones.
All i really want is to remove the volume warning and the redundant wifi notification.
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Xposed is in alpha or pre alpha for TW devices. So it is in the works, just a ton of bugs and the install is pretty in depth at the moment.
Don't know about the volume warning, but the WiFi notification is easy if rooted. Get the CSC editor and search for WiFi. Blank this value and reboot.
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I have up on roms (TW or AOSP/CM) based a long time ago due to glitches and bugs. The last thing I ever did with root was adaway but now many all developers and websites are getting content past adaway and ABP, so no point there even.
I had a problem with my Tab S not taking the lollipop update after rooting then un-rooting which kind of soured me it in general. I got it flashed back to stock at bestbuy and updated, but settings menu still shows status as Custom even though download mode shows Knox 0x0
Anyone work atm on a port of TWRP for Note 8? I cannot wait anymore for a custom rom hehe
Can we use the twrp from S8??
I think its the same hardware. Only more RAM.
Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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Huh? Why would that be? I haven't had a note for a while but had twrp and root on my note 4, spen worked perfectly and saw daily use.
Edit: oh I see what you mean. You mean ported version from the s8 right?
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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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TWRP is a recovery image and a direct S8 TWRP port wouldn't affect the operating skin, so no S-Pen functionality would be lost.
But twrp don't give root.. I say let start a bounty
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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.
Torquemada288 said:
I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.
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I guess I've just been relatively happy with touch wiz so I never considered going that route. The last phone I ran a diff OS on was the n3 or n4.
My only complaints would be I'd like to be able to download torrents right to the sd card, and for them to fix the vpn bug.
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I guess I've just been relatively happy with touch wiz so I never considered going that route. The last phone I ran a diff OS on was the n3 or n4.
My only complaints would be I'd like to be able to download torrents right to the sd card, and for them to fix the vpn bug.
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If the stock software suits you, that's all good. But you have to understand that it doesn't suit everyone and many people want to have more control over how their device looks and behaves based on their needs and personal preferences.
I'll probably keep my Note 8 stock until I either get fed up with TouchWiz or some fancy custom ROM catches my eye, but even then, I'll probably root it and install TWRP as soon as the opportunity arrives.
Torquemada288 said:
I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.
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If the stock software suits you, that's all good. But you have to understand that it doesn't suit everyone and many people want to have more control over how their device looks and behaves based on their needs and personal preferences.
I'll probably keep my Note 8 stock until I either get fed up with TouchWiz or some fancy custom ROM catches my eye, but even then, I'll probably root it and install TWRP as soon as the opportunity arrives.
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Your absolutely right. This is one of those moments when I commented without anything of substance to add. My bad, carry on gents lol.
How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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I'm getting the international Note 8, so I'll be having all the modding fun.
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How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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I could not agree more. Every new phone I buy I don't expect a BL unlock. Especially Samsung. I expect someone will come up with a root method for the Note 8 eventually but if not, I'm still happy with my Note 8. I still have my unlocked Pixel XL to play with for ROM testing etc. I just wish Samsung would push Oreo out. I was in the beta and I think Oreo is much better than Nougat. I know it will likely be a month or more before we see it on the Note 8.
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How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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Why locked... I use the exynos version? crapdragon US version is locked, but with the F exynos version, bootloader is open and no problem to install TWRP / Custom rom so far^^
TWRP should be literally around the corner. Release date is this week, so TWRP and ROOT should be very close. ONLY FOR N950F and N950FD versions, EXYNOS. Snapdragon or USA or Canada variants are out of luck, just like the S8 snapdragons.
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TWRP should be literally around the corner. Release date is this week, so TWRP and ROOT should be very close. ONLY FOR N950F and N950FD versions, EXYNOS. Snapdragon or USA or Canada variants are out of luck, just like the S8 snapdragons.
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This sound great. Many thanks for your info.
Do you have a link there we can check the availability of TWRP and/or Root for N950F/FD?
Or can you post an update here then it is available?
maverickluke said:
This sound great. Many thanks for your info.
Do you have a link there we can check the availability of TWRP and/or Root for N950F/FD?
Or can you post an update here then it is available?
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Wait 4 thread in Rom development hope twrp comes soon
Every phone I have had with a locked boot loader has gotten root eventually. Someone will get it running. Be patient the phone has not even official been released.
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What about my 950N? I'd hope that development for the European models would work on all the Exynos variants...
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Why locked... I use the exynos version? crapdragon US version is locked, but with the F exynos version, bootloader is open and no problem to install TWRP / Custom rom so far^^
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Well im on Sprint, and I'm not stupid enough to spend $1000+ on a phone I can't get insurance on and switch carriers too. Voiding warranty I can care less about cause I always rooted n romed right away, but no insurance......hell no. Root will be good enough when it eventually comes long. Also I like SD chips over Exynos anyways. What we need is more of the old school devs back. The Chad Goodman's of xda. I wish Samsung would offer an unlock code that we would agree voiding warranty too like HTC did before.
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
No
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Very good
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Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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it all depends on what you install on it.
but for the last question stock is pretty good. especially if device has the latest firmware(software update)
Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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Best way to charge is with a wireless charge pad overnight. That's a slow charge and very easy on the battery. By the end of my 12hr days of moderate talking/texting, the phone is at 80%, and then I use it all night (instead of tv) and it's at 50% when I go to bed. That's with auto brightness, the dark UI (night mode) and no added theme. Dark mode all the apps. It looks gorgeous. I've had it for about four months, and it's an amazing phone. No lag. VERY nice OS (Android 9 + OneUI). Camera app is excellent. Google Cam app would not be better. When you buy a Note9 new, do ALL the updates (Android 8 to 9 and all security patches) right away before installing any apps, and you will have a trouble-free system. Android 9 in most regions does not have call recording. A US unbranded Note9 is bloat-free and great for T-Mobile, because you still get wifi-calling and VoLTE, but for the other carriers, you lose those if you don't get their branded version. If you want to root your phone, you must buy an Exynos or dual-sim Snapdragon version. All US Note9 versions are bootloader-locked and will not root. Ain't happening. This is the first Android setup I've had where it's so good I don't need root (7 of my Androids are rooted and non-stock ROMmed). Note9 is better than Note10. The last great Samsung phone.
If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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CDMA has always been terrible.
Nah just this phone
ok thanks guys
It's really betweent his and the S9 for now.
No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
I want to buy a 512GB Note9 International for Christmas or so, nice to see everyone is happy with the phone & the updates
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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Easy. Because I hate Pie.
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Don't go past Oreo Dave. There is more wrong past that than is immediately apparent. Most of the complaints at the play store about apps that used to work and don't anymore is based on not only Pie, but also play store updates that put you in iPhone prison. The apps at the Play Store had to be rewritten to uselessness to remain listed, which made apkpure.com my new friend to download previous versions of apps, and turn off Google Policy Updates at both the play store and my phone. Because I have the 960U, I had to flash to the US UNLOCKED U1 firmware and then disable updates in the configs by following these instructions. The forcing updates by US carriers and play store to strip functionality that protects you appears to be a US deep state driven thing because many nations won't put up with those restrictions and appears to be a U-model-only thing.
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
Had zero issues after update.
When I hear people complaining about such things I tend to believe that the problem is not with pie+one_ui but with the people.
Yes there are exceptions.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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I have tried it multipe times whenever I go to Costco. By playing around with an S10 and Note 10 Plus and I still hate it.
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There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
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I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you don't need that, then you can update without worry.
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I would agree with that. Actually, any app other than a dialer that leverages your contacts and call history is hamstrung or no longer works. On Android 10, they purposely killed call recording altogether. Since most calls go VoLTE, the calling parties are the only ones deprived of a record of their calls. Everyone else in the chain keeps a copy.
Android established its market by being the open choice, and actually the only choice for non-Apple after Steve Balmer pulled the plug on the Windows Mobile/Pocket PC. Even rooting was a normal option without permanently disabling the capabilities of your device. The progression has been to force IOS limitations upon Android, with more an more access to your private information by phone makers and Google. As with LTE-A, It's time for a non-proprietary mobile operating system that is beholden to its users instead of companies and governments. Vendors can plug their Touchwiz or whatever into that.
As for CDMA, Qualcomm used it as a product name because it incorporates cdma as a technology. The only reason GSM didn't go with it is CDMA as a product name and technology is because it was owned by Qualcomm. GSM service was poor, expensive, and impractical in many areas until later when GSM went to cdma. The EU legislated against CDMA, and this affected their orbiting countries. Developed countries went with CDMA, including the US, Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc., and even countries in the EU bolted GSM for CDMA. The defining moment came at 4G time when Sprint gained control of Clearwire, the owner of the new 4G, Wi-MAX. This caused Verizon to bolt Wi-MAX. Their clout plus the emerging Cingular/ATT network caused Sprint to realize they couldn't pull this off and they also bolted. That enabled LTE to gain critical mass and LTE-A to become the IP of cellular networks. With the problem becoming usable cellular bandwidth, and with a usable de facto worldwide standard for wireless communication, the FCC and similar organizations could now force out the 3G and earlier technologies that were tying up bandwidth. Because CDMA is locked to the wireless network vendor and cannot be shared, it is logical for it to be the first on the chopping block. There are no longer any Wi-MAX phones, but Clearwire, who was and is many years ahead, has gone on to provide the wireless matrix for many of the largest cities around the world with user technologies at their perimeter, of which 5G is one. GSM's claim to fame has never been one of technical superiority, it has been openness and interoperability. However, the US did something similar when it developed the DARPANET/INTERNET by not allowing proprietary protocols and building out IP.
When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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dave678 said:
I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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Ahh the old look out the window comment. You live in Alaska you're ****ed so you need AM and PM. Also it's on phones for years until the notch trend rolled in and they axed it. If it's useless then why did so many people beg Samsung to bring it back during the Pie beta test?
So is it possible to get get the unlock code to a CLT-L29 in 2020?
I was backing up pictures with USB, and cable was loose and fell off, and for some reason that made my P20 remove all media on my phone.
Due to limitations in EMUI 9 i cant use any deepscan, but might work on EMUI 8, but my phone wont show the allow PC remote hisuite app window to appear, so its a bust.
Next i wanna try ROOT, but need unlock code to root.
Has anyone any way of getting this code? that know it works? dont feel like spending 50$ on a fake page/service.
// Fredrik
frodrick79 said:
So is it possible to get get the unlock code to a CLT-L29 in 2020?
I was backing up pictures with USB, and cable was loose and fell off, and for some reason that made my P20 remove all media on my phone.
Due to limitations in EMUI 9 i cant use any deepscan, but might work on EMUI 8, but my phone wont show the allow PC remote hisuite app window to appear, so its a bust.
Next i wanna try ROOT, but need unlock code to root.
Has anyone any way of getting this code? that know it works? dont feel like spending 50$ on a fake page/service.
// Fredrik
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Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
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Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
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You'll never walk alone!
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Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
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Neither would i too. Tired of all the waiting and issues that i had with huawei, to the point where i will be switching to Iphone.
I will say it again for huawei : Great hardware, **** software.
The Restless Soul said:
Neither would i too. Tired of all the waiting and issues that i had with huawei, to the point where i will be switching to Iphone.
I will say it again for huawei : Great hardware, **** software.
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GPU is crap too, but I agree for the most part.
Never again
OnePlus mate, get the 8, I wouldn't buy apple personally.
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GPU is crap too, but I agree for the most part.
Never again
OnePlus mate, get the 8, I wouldn't buy apple personally.
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Well, i am done with Android in general. Google's been removing features each update and honestly, the **** optimization that Android has regarding multitasking is so bad....how could Apple use 4gb of ram to keep so many apps easily?
Oneplus, yeah, they have their opimizations here and there, but i don't want to go set up the app background limit or some other stuff just to get it fictional (according to dontkillmyapp.com)
Either way, i will see what will happen in the future. If oneplus 8 comes with true water resistance and wireless charging, then sure as hell i might switch to it. If not, then i am going for Apple (i'd rather pay a kidney and know i got a functional device that will have 5+ years of updates)
Still it's sad that Huawei doesn't co-op with the xda community by letting us test harmony OS, develop apps and report bugs, but oh well...
I am also very interested in what op 8 brings but i would be slightly more skeptical. Well sure, if dev support and performance are the only factors go get it. Keep in mind that Oneplus (7 serie) is also known for terrible ram management. Another thing worth to consider is camera. Compared to huawei, samsung, pixel or iPhone it is just ok. If you have time please read op 7t pro review on xda. It's long but worth to read.
Btw. You're totally right about root and development today. It's not that fun anymore, unlocking bl often breaks functionality of crucial apps (like paying with phone) and magisk hide doesn't help it all.
(besides even op 7t pro doesn't have fully working twrp yet).
As for the iPhone. Price is still scary and storage/battery capacity is a joke. Only iphone 11 pro max gets decent size battery... and beats android handsets on this field About ios it's all about t personal preferences.
There is method called BLK, it costs about 30 dollars to get BLK key and two guys who know how to do it will help you with getting bootloader code for free. You can contact them at huaweihax on telegram
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I am also very interested in what op 8 brings but i would be slightly more skeptical. Well sure, if dev support and performance are the only factors go get it. Keep in mind that Oneplus (7 serie) is also known for terrible ram management. Another thing worth to consider is camera. Compared to huawei, samsung, pixel or iPhone it is just ok. If you have time please read op 7t pro review on xda. It's long but worth to read.
Btw. You're totally right about root and development today. It's not that fun anymore, unlocking bl often breaks functionality of crucial apps (like paying with phone) and magisk hide doesn't help it all.
(besides even op 7t pro doesn't have fully working twrp yet).
As for the iPhone. Price is still scary and storage/battery capacity is a joke. Only iphone 11 pro max gets decent size battery... and beats android handsets on this field About ios it's all about t personal preferences.
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I mean, you get what you pay for. I am not an apple fanboy since i never got a chance to fully test an iphone or any apple product, but honestly, after testing an iphone 11 pro in a store (as well as iphone 11 which, for an hd screen, it looks pretty good), i'd take the risk with the prices just for a phone that will hold me very well for more than 5 years. Storage wise, i always do cleanup on my phone and, on my p20 pro, i barely used the 128gb storage (sits somewhere under 32gb). About battery, for a 3000mah battery, it holds longer than my p20 pro, which is amazing! Yeah, the max pro is better but it is too big and large to even fit in my pocket. But either way, i will see what iphone i should get.
I wish ANDROID OEM's would keep up with apple and bring up at least 5 years of OS updates, especially when they have their own services.
And thank you for agreeing with me regarding my opinion about bootloader unlocking. It is pretty much useless and Google may just disable the adb command in the near future. Why sacrifice 80% of the phone's features for a custom rom?
puszekkk said:
There is method called BLK, it costs about 30 dollars to get BLK key and two guys who know how to do it will help you with getting bootloader code for free. You can contact them at huaweihax on telegram
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..... Interesting, has anyone on these forums had any success with this method?
(other than the thread by @XTutorials https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/finnaly-t3972825 - which i noted with interest but nothing much seemed to come of it)
Could really do with hearing some success stories - I don't mind sabotaging the phone by getting the cover off and losing water-resistance.... but I'd want to be reasonably sure it was going to work :laugh:
What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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Pretty much "xdatards" complaining at every huawei post that they no longer provide bootloader unlocking. I mean, samsung and other big oem still don't allow it or it does but breaks the entire software and they barely have any custom roms (not talking about xiaomi or oneplus)
Either way, i won't be surprised if Google removes the bootloader unlock command from adb in the next big android update.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking ......
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Personally, I'm not interested in any phone restricted to EMUI - whilst it's not a terrible iteration of Android it's still too restrictive by half (e.g. the low maximum headphone volume really pee'd me off!)
I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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Personally, I'm not interested in any phone restricted to EMUI - whilst it's not a terrible iteration of Android it's still too restrictive by half (e.g. the low maximum headphone volume really pee'd me off!)
I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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They already blocked the bootloader unlocking thing in emui 10, just like how every android oem will do in their next major update.
I start to think that Apple is no longer the **** company now when it comes to mobile market, it's the android oem. Let's be fair : you pay 1k for a phone that becomes irrelevant in 2 years, becomes slowers because of those so called "security updates", no custom rom support (even though custom roms are pretty much dead at this point, barely any builds coming up), and other software related issues.
What the hell is innovation if software is the main point of a product? Those so called "Isheeps" are so right with android's terrible update platform and optimization. 12gb of ram for what? Just for specs to flex with.
Everybody should switch to Iphones at this point.
Huawei tried to kill apple but honestly, with their broken promises, i start to think that maybe the android ban is a good reason for Huawei to start respecting customers and coop with them. After all, they want to be on top...
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Well, i am done with Android in general. Google's been removing features each update and honestly, the **** optimization that Android has regarding multitasking is so bad....how could Apple use 4gb of ram to keep so many apps easily?
Oneplus, yeah, they have their opimizations here and there, but i don't want to go set up the app background limit or some other stuff just to get it fictional (according to dontkillmyapp.com)
Either way, i will see what will happen in the future. If oneplus 8 comes with true water resistance and wireless charging, then sure as hell i might switch to it. If not, then i am going for Apple (i'd rather pay a kidney and know i got a functional device that will have 5+ years of updates)
Still it's sad that Huawei doesn't co-op with the xda community by letting us test harmony OS, develop apps and report bugs, but oh well...
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Screw Huawei, they deserve it.
As for Apple, it's exactly the same with Mac OS Vs windows, windows has to work on a plethora of hardware combinations, as does android, osx and iOS have very very very limited hardware combinations, bare in mind how much android has caught up, it's not noticeable any longer, in fact a lot of phones have surpassed apple in so many ways. Oneplus and Pixels namely.
I've lived with Apple once, that was enough
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They already blocked the bootloader unlocking thing in emui 10, just like how every android oem will do in their next major update.
I start to think that Apple is no longer the **** company now when it comes to mobile market, it's the android oem. Let's be fair : you pay 1k for a phone that becomes irrelevant in 2 years, becomes slowers because of those so called "security updates", no custom rom support (even though custom roms are pretty much dead at this point, barely any builds coming up), and other software related issues.
What the hell is innovation if software is the main point of a product? Those so called "Isheeps" are so right with android's terrible update platform and optimization. 12gb of ram for what? Just for specs to flex with.
Everybody should switch to Iphones at this point.
Huawei tried to kill apple but honestly, with their broken promises, i start to think that maybe the android ban is a good reason for Huawei to start respecting customers and coop with them. After all, they want to be on top...
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Where are you getting this from?? Samsung, OnePlus, Google, lg, have all kept the door open for bootloader unlocking or did I miss something?
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I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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Lol about the updates, for many it's the potential prospect of having anything other than EMUI and or any limitations being lifted and or the poor optimizations becoming better than the trash that we've had to get used to.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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Titanium.
AOSIP ROM
True ad blocking
Xposed
Magisk mods
Snapchat mods
Ability to remove zram (massive boost in gaming and device speed)
Root optimizations
Root apps
Kernels
TWRP mods
True dark mode (something I've been using for several years not this awful crap they're calling a feature nowadays)
I could be here all day long.
Removing the shackles, gives you freedom, it's your choice what you do with it.
This is the essence of android, which is why people are annoyed at Huawei primarily amongst other awful decisions.
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Where are you getting this from?? Samsung, OnePlus, Google, lg, have all kept the door open for bootloader unlocking or did I miss something?
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Possibility to unlock bl is limited to regional releases in case of LG or Samsung. Lastly i check there was no way to unlock bl on lg g8 (flagship 2019). LG update policy is the most stupid ive ever experienced. Regarding galaxy s serie - there are still regional variants (eg american carrier branded) where unlocking bl is not available.
As for the perks you mentioned... I am afraid not of them are available / fully working today. I am not a gamer so only adblock is sth really useful to me, but it's not a deal breaker.
Couple of years ago root meant sth. Gave you freedom and didn't bring any negative consequences. It's no longer the case. I think root scene will be dead within couple of years.
It's a shame that htc is dead. Their flagships were equipped with top notch hw and devs support was among the best on xda.
Unlock bootloader on samsung : Knox ****s the entire phone up
Unlock bootloader on lg : impossible on some phone variants
What i was talking about is that all companies like to copy eachother, no matter how small or big it is. Take a note with the disappearance of the headphone jack : Apple did it first and then everybody did it too. Huawei got the in display fingerprint scanner and reverse wireless charging : Samsung copies it.
Now with emui 10, Google can as well block the unlock command because then companies will copy this "feature".
Actually, since the iphone 11 pro release, Apple caught up with the competition of flagship devices.
I understand you regarding oneplus being a good comapany that allows bootloader unlocking. But the thing is : you unlock it you loose some important daily driver features like banking apps (which i use). Oneplus, by the looks of it, did it so well with the speed and optimization, however i'm not sure how well they did it with ram management. Either way, when it comes to overall support and less headaches, Apple does it better. "it just works!"
Still, let's see what 2020 brings up. Huawei might redeem themselves this time. If not, then say goodbye because i don't give more chances.
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Possibility to unlock bl is limited to regional releases in case of LG or Samsung. Lastly i check there was no way to unlock bl on lg g8 (flagship 2019). LG update policy is the most stupid ive ever experienced.
As for the perks you mentioned... I am afraid not of them are available / fully working today. I am not a gamer so only adblock is sth really useful to me, but it's not a deal breaker.
Couple of years ago root meant sth. Gave you freedom and didn't bring any negative consequences. It's no longer the case. I think root scene will be dead within couple of years.
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Unfortunately, the root community is pretty much dying since summer 2019 (imo). Most rooting apps can be used with adb (like appops and shizuku). Either way, like i said, i won't be surprised if Google blocks unlocking in the adb command.
Also, Huawei can root their phones using service mode, but nobody has access to their service software, yet.
I think we will disagree on this. I cannot remember everything I use root for, but things do pop up from time to time.
It's just easier with root.
Android will always have root and if not then it's the end of android, i really wouldn't bother anymore.
What I mentioned still works btw, and yes you do trust the efuse chip on some devices, but so what, it's worth it.
Losing a banking app? You use it yes but that's you lol, I would trade that off for root.
Apple is still a closed eco system and always will be I honestly cannot see android ever being that way, if it is then bye bye android.
This is my opinion and it's staying that way lads, sorry but that's me.
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I think we will disagree on this. I cannot remember everything I use root for, but things do pop up from time to time.
It's just easier with root.
Android will always have root and if not then it's the end of android, i really wouldn't bother anymore.
What I mentioned still works btw, and yes you do trust the efuse chip on some devices, but so what, it's worth it.
Losing a banking app? You use it yes but that's you lol, I would trade that off for root.
Apple is still a closed eco system and always will be I honestly cannot see android ever being that way, if it is then bye bye android.
This is my opinion and it's staying that way lads, sorry but that's me.
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If Google completely killed rooting, ppl will still buy them. XDA rooting is a niche market now days. Rooting, custom ROMs etc was fun while it lasted. I still love android eco system, way superior to iDevices. iPhones can be jailbroken too, not as closed as you might think.
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If Google completely killed rooting, ppl will still buy them. XDA rooting is a niche market now days. Rooting, custom ROMs etc was fun while it lasted. I still love android eco system, way superior to iDevices. iPhones can be jailbroken too, not as closed as you might think.
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Quite a defeatist attitude of you. ask me, jailbreak didn't work on the latest OS, it's cat and mouse, not the same thing as root, not the same OS, your comparing oranges and apples.
Google won't do that, not being naive either, time will tell. I didn't think unlocked multipliers on CPUs would still be around today, yet here we are with a dedicated line for both AMD and Intel, GPU had now followed suit as had RAM.
Google isn't dead, they're just getting started, closing off a massive part of what made them famous in the first place isn't something they're going to embrace, that's the likes of Huaweis job.
Time will tell, right now it's open and there's nothing to suggest otherwise, besides the backlash should it happen.
If it did happen I would have no hesitation to buy apple, at that point android would have lost their ace up their sleeve, because I'm a small minority who thinks that doesnt mean I'm wrong, not wanting to follow the masses is a good thing, and going by Google's hiring techniques they'd agree.