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Now that the 6p and 5x has high frame rate recording, will this be possible to be ported to the Nexus 6? The hardware should be up for it, shouldn't it?
No, the new Nexus phones have different CPUs and image sensors to be capable of the higher frame rate recording.
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Maxbrand said:
Now that the 6p and 5x has high frame rate recording, will this be possible to be ported to the Nexus 6? The hardware should be up for it, shouldn't it?
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you do realize that it all depends on the hardware of the device, dont you? if it was possible on the n6, id assume that we would be having it already..
simms22 said:
you do realize that it all depends on the hardware of the device, dont you? if it was possible on the n6, id assume that we would be having it already..
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Well, see the sensor should be able to record 1080/60p according to Sony, can't link because of few posts. But it's on the website for imx214.
And the cpu should have no problem either, so I don't see why it isn't possible hardware-wise.
Maxbrand said:
Well, see the sensor should be able to record 1080/60p according to Sony, can't link because of few posts. But it's on the website for imx214.
And the cpu should have no problem either, so I don't see why it isn't possible hardware-wise.
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sensor should, and our cpu can handle it(recording slow-mo too). but our device isnt made to handle it for some reason.
Likely due to the memory and other hardware being unable to support it. The bandwidth requirements for it are likely huge, so you need everything working together, and if guess one item isn't capable of handling the throughput properly.
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Both cpu and camera supports it(check oneplusone or nexus 5 with l camera), but thanks to Google marketing they would not bring this new features to nexus 6, unlikely but possible.
Scythe said:
Both cpu and camera supports it(check oneplusone or nexus 5 with l camera), but thanks to Google marketing they would not bring this new features to nexus 6, unlikely but possible.
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Is the memory fast enough to support it? What about the emmc flash chip? There is more to capturing high-frame rate video than having a capable image sensor and CPU. Yes, they're big parts of it, but not everything.
imnuts said:
Is the memory fast enough to support it? What about the emmc flash chip? There is more to capturing high-frame rate video than having a capable image sensor and CPU. Yes, they're big parts of it, but not everything.
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I'm not going to start a discussion about hardware limitations or how important memory speed etc, the thing is; do nexus 5 has advantages over nexus 6? do one plus one has very high differences than nexus 6? No, this cpu can support 55 Mp camera and better than opo plus, gpu is better, memory same, ois and other stuff and do you really believe that we dont have this because hardware limitations? Google always does this and will continue doing this. After enough some time (6P and 5X get boring) they will give us camera v3, until then we had to dig 4K crap.
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I'm not going to start a discussion about hardware limitations or how important memory speed etc, the thing is; do nexus 5 has advantages over nexus 6? do one plus one has very high differences than nexus 6? No, this cpu can support 55 Mp camera and better than opo plus, gpu is better, memory same, ois and other stuff and do you really believe that we dont have this because hardware limitations? Google always does this and will continue doing this. After enough some time (6P and 5X get boring) they will give us camera v3, until then we had to dig 4K crap.
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Go get a slow memory card, put it in a DSLR camera, and see if you can take pictures as far as the image sensor is capable of. Maybe you don't think it matters, but it does. My GPU on my computer is capable of 4K resolutions, why won't my monitor display 4K? Again, if one piece of hardware doesn't support taking video or images at a given resolution and frame rate, then it doesn't matter what the rest is capable of.
Then again, I'm sure you have the exact hardware design specs and everything is great and its actually capable of 300 fps at 8K...
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Go get a slow memory card, put it in a DSLR camera, and see if you can take pictures as far as the image sensor is capable of. Maybe you don't think it matters, but it does. My GPU on my computer is capable of 4K resolutions, why won't my monitor display 4K? Again, if one piece of hardware doesn't support taking video or images at a given resolution and frame rate, then it doesn't matter what the rest is capable of.
Then again, I'm sure you have the exact hardware design specs and everything is great and its actually capable of 300 fps at 8K...
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OK it matters of course and let's say we have a slow memory and ram (we can record 4k @30fps though), how come nexus 5 can do it? Btw this feature was around for a time but Google itself did not looked into it, and I'm sure with a little bit hacking they can do it but Google rarely give backward compatibility to their devices except os of course.
Maybe the Nexus 5 has different hardware, just a thought? I mean, it is coming from a different OEM and from a different time period, so that would be the first logical guess. Second guess is that, given encryption is enabled by default and that affects the throughput on R/W actions, that it is preventing us from high FPS recording. I didn't design the phone, so it's all speculative. Unless you know a Google or Motorola engineer, you're likely never going to get the actual answer.
Either way though, bloody annoying.
[email protected] is literally the same bandwidth as [email protected] If the hardware can handle the bandwidth of [email protected], the only limitation left is the speed of the sensor. If Sony's sensor can handle the speed required for 60-120fps, then the only limitation left is arbitrary software. Is there a setting in android to make that available, or is it a closed source driver limitation?
As some of you might be aware Google's awesome camera software with HDR+ was ported to devices running Snapdragon 820/821/835 devices. Now I know for fact we couldn't port that version to our Moto X. Even if could it would cook our CPUs.
But what about the older version of HDR+ that's on the Nexus 6? Can it be ported? It makes a huuuuugggggggeeeee difference in the quality on photos like night and day. Google's photo processing is leaps and bounds better than any other.
Been wondering this for a while as well. I believe it could be done.
shawndak said:
Been wondering this for a while as well. I believe it could be done.
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Do you know which Snapdragon 800/801 device has the biggest development scene? Maybe prodding over there would be better, if it works for them it will work for us.
Are you talking about the oneplus one? I loved using the old version of google camera and would even like a 3+ version available to everyone. I wonder why google would limit the app exposure?
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
Do you know which Snapdragon 800/801 device has the biggest development scene? Maybe prodding over there would be better, if it works for them it will work for us.
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As you guys know, camera performance on the Moto X4, put bluntly, has been less than stellar. Also of note: the Google Camera app (Auto HDR+) has been ported to multiple other Android devices, and it seems as though any device able to utilize the Camera2 API with a Hexagon DSP and Spectra ISP is compatible with the ported camera app. As of a few days ago, the Modded Google Camera ported apk was found to work with the Moto X4, as seen on Reddit in the links below:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/...orted_hdr_pixel_camera_apk_works_for_moto_x4/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX4/comments/77vn3w/psa_google_camera_port_hdr_from_pixel_works_on_x4/
As discussed already, the performance of the Moto X4's camera with the port is much better all round (especially low-light photography) than it is with Motorola's own camera app, which is slow and lacks good processing. Now, listed on some of the posts of the Reddit links above (much more information on the matter there) are links to all of the different apks (some fully functioning, some as test versions, some that are manual and configurable) of the Ported Google Camera app; credits to developers B-S-G and Ivanich for making this possible. Mind you, the most stable apk (Ivanich v1.4 Full PXL2) is configured for the OnePlus 3 most natively, which doesn't seem to support as many newer features of the Google Camera app as the Moto X4 does. That said, if a more stable apk of the ported Google Camera app can be configured to best go along with the hardware of the Moto X4's camera (as has been done with the Xiaomi Mi A1), then for those who aren't concerned about using the secondary camera, there will be a viable option for much improved photography on the Moto X4 as well, that takes advantage of the hardware present more effectively. Again, much more detailed explanation of these concepts on Reddit, in the links provided above. I wanted to bring attention to this for those who are interested over here.
Only deficiency of the apk...
You have the option to delete photos while HDR+ is still processing them. If you do, it seems to get stuck in the notification bar. I don't know if this impacts anything, but just a note.
Great find! Mine comes in tomorrow, and I can't wait to try this out!
I wonder: is anybody working on configuring an apk better suited for the Moto X4's camera hardware, and/or is anyone willing to? As of right now, these are the config options that work most effectively on the Moto X4's hardware (as posted in the r/projectfi [1st] Reddit link):
Phone Model - Nexus 6P. All work here, but the 6P option seems to be the best in low light.
Config camera - Pixel 2017 Zsl HDR #1 and #2 options can crash the app (if you crash it, clear data/cache). All the others seem to work. ZSL is for HDR Auto mode. Pixel 2016 Zsl HDR is most optimal.
Buffers Size - 15 (optimal)
Note: this is the configurable mod below:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...GCB_7.0H_C2API_v.4.0_AllinOne_Full_Manual.apk
crazyates said:
Great find! Mine comes in tomorrow, and I can't wait to try this out!
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When you do try it out, if you can compare picture/video quality to the stock Motorola app, that'd be great, and something I suggest you do anyway to see how you feel about it.
Crashes
Anyone else seeing frequent crashes?
Update: These settings at least seem to keep my moto x4 from crashing for now. I usually can make them happen with some settings by force closing the camera app then starting it again.
Model - 6P
Config camera - Pixel 2017 Hardware Zsl (DR Dogfood)
Buffers size - 15 optimal
Total imagereader image coung - 14 (AllPixel+AllExp)
hdr+ burst frame count - 8 (nexus 6)
Calculation hdr+ image count - Pixel, PixelXL
dirtygreek said:
Anyone else seeing frequent crashes?
Update: These settings at least seem to keep my moto x4 from crashing for now. I usually can make them happen with some settings by force closing the camera app then starting it again.
Model - 6P
Config camera - Pixel 2017 Hardware Zsl (DR Dogfood)
Buffers size - 15 optimal
Total imagereader image coung - 14 (AllPixel+AllExp)
hdr+ burst frame count - 8 (nexus 6)
Calculation hdr+ image count - Pixel, PixelXL
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Those settings work well also, and don't have problems with crashing either.
Can someone please post some comparison shots with motocam vs gcam ? thanks
kraatus90 said:
Can someone please post some comparison shots with motocam vs gcam ? thanks
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See my pics Here.
crazyates said:
See my pics Here.
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Can you try this gcam mod ? set hdr+ to on. and shoot.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620761630
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Can you try this gcam mod ? set hdr+ to on. and shoot.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620761630
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That G5 camera crashes instantly when you open it. I'm not sure the G5 camera is the same one we have?
crazyates said:
That G5 camera crashes instantly when you open it. I'm not sure the G5 camera is the same one we have?
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No it's not the same , what you tried was probably gcam4.4 based, the apk i gave link to is based on gcam 4.2 arm version. anyway thanks for trying.
Update: the new Arnova8G2 manual gcam apk works for this device as well. From what I've been told, it provides a similar image quality with better color processing than other gcam ports, and better video quality. This is MUCH better performing in most every aspect that Motorola's stock app. It can be found in the first Reddit link in the original post in this thread (I'm the OP), or directly from here: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/. The Arnova8G2 manual mod is based off of a newer version of Gcam, that being 5.1.014 I believe, as opposed to 4.2.x, as the BSG and Ivanich mods are based off of.
TurboBot247 said:
Update: the new Arnova8G2 manual gcam apk works for this device as well. From what I've been told, it provides a similar image quality with better color processing than other gcam ports, and better video quality. This is MUCH better performing in most every aspect that Motorola's stock app. It can be found in the first Reddit link in the original post in this thread (I'm the OP), or directly from here: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/. The Arnova8G2 manual mod is based off of a newer version of Gcam, that being 5.1.014 I believe, as opposed to 4.2.x, as the BSG and Ivanich mods are based off of.
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Thanks! I'll try it out.
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Thanks! I'll try it out.
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So far, how do you feel about the image and video quality with the updated version of this app? Also, how do you feel it stacks up against other devices that you've worked with in the past?
Just tried the newly released v9.1 version. Very impressive with low light indoors. Pictures came out looking like the room was well lit, when it was in fact dimly lit. Also, switching to 60fps on video provides a much brighter/clearer image.
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So far, how do you feel about the image and video quality with the updated version of this app? Also, how do you feel it stacks up against other devices that you've worked with in the past?
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I meant to try it out, but I haven't had the time. I was using the older version of the Gcam to record video at a wedding this past weekend: VERY dark lit dance floor with strobe/lights moving all around, and fast movement. Even at the brightest setting, it was still too dark to see almost anything. I know this is a worst case video scenario, but if the new apk improves video low-light, that would be great!
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I meant to try it out, but I haven't had the time. I was using the older version of the Gcam to record video at a wedding this past weekend: VERY dark lit dance floor with strobe/lights moving all around, and fast movement. Even at the brightest setting, it was still too dark to see almost anything. I know this is a worst case video scenario, but if the new apk improves video low-light, that would be great!
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The Arnova8G2 manual apk should improve the dark image of video in 30FPS, as seen with other mods.
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The Arnova8G2 manual apk should improve the dark image of video in 30FPS, as seen with other mods.
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Need some help here, if you own Android one edition. can you share System/vendor/lib and lib64 folder ? you don't need root for it just copy those folder to internal storage and zip it. you can use free version of solid explorer for it. thanks.
i want to see if there's any difference between retail and android one edition regarding image post processing etc.
kraatus90 said:
Need some help here, if you own Android one edition. can you share System/vendor/lib and lib64 folder ? you don't need root for it just copy those folder to internal storage and zip it. you can use free version of solid explorer for it. thanks.
i want to see if there's any difference between retail and android one edition regarding image post processing etc.
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Nope, don't own one yet. There is no difference in image processing between the two, as they both run the same versions of Motorola's camera software and have the same hardware in tow as well; there'd be no reason for the app to process images differently on the regular version than on the Android One version. They both have poorly optimized camera software in common.
Since Google Pixel 3 launched, the modder tried to port the camera app to the another Android devices, I'm so excited about it. But unfortunately until now the app not coming even to single Sony devices. So, anyone's here please make it available for Sony Xperia X Performance.
Devices that got Google Camera app
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
You can use it as long as youre in aosp.
The right version for dora
hasbyduryea said:
You can use it as long as youre in aosp.
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I wonder though: which version of that port is suitable for X Performance?
Presumably need to find the device that has the same SoC and camera
With kind regards.
UPD #1: GCam_5.3.015-Pixel3Mod-Arnova8G2-v4Beta1 - this version is working for X Performance, testing further on Oreo 8.1 AOSP with kernel v4.9
UPD #2: also installed HEVC+SloMo GCam (Magisk) from the OnePlus 3/3T section via Magisk, the app does not crash or anything, safe to use I guess....
UPD #3: HDR+ is not working, maybe need some tweaking in the Advanced section of Settings
UPD #4: At the very first switcing to 60 fps mode the app reports a crash; after a re-launch the mode persists as set, video records fine, no idea if it is actually 60fps
Anyways, test out, guys!
P.S. HDR+ engine seems funky for the device: the camera snaps the original picture just fine, but the processing messes the picture up in the end. Maybe should talk to the developer of the port.
Aray21 said:
Since Google Pixel 3 launched, the modder tried to port the camera app to the another Android devices, I'm so excited about it. But unfortunately until now the app not coming even to single Sony devices. So, anyone's here please make it available for Sony Xperia X Performance.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
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Which one i can use to x performance ?
On a disturbing case of blindness
Ontrinity said:
Which one i can use to x performance ?
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Hello, @Ontrinity,
you can look up to post #3 and see that I have already replied to your question (much earlier than you even asked it). Please use the instructions.
In the meantime, consult a doctor on the matter of your eyesight - I think it's alarmingly poor and you might need to use some glasses or lenses.
Have a very nice day, and thank you for your time.
It seems that the S22 Ultra use a lot of the same stuff like lenses, maybe the whole camera setup. So we dont know, if they improve software AI and we also dont know, if that really requires Exynos 2200 or SD8 Gen1.
In the past, there were many things ported from newer models to older models. Even GCAM get a port.
Im interested into the updated camera app from the S22U because of 108MP enhancer mode and less noice in video.
Do you think it is possible and someone will do?
I use the unofficial ExpertRAW heavily and in my opinion it can improve image quality a lot. As long as nobody compare ExpertRAW from both phones, I doubt there will be much hardware upgrades in camera Departement.
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It seems that the S22 Ultra use a lot of the same stuff like lenses, maybe the whole camera setup. So we dont know, if they improve software AI and we also dont know, if that really requires Exynos 2200 or SD8 Gen1.
In the past, there were many things ported from newer models to older models. Even GCAM get a port.
Im interested into the updated camera app from the S22U because of 108MP enhancer mode and less noice in video.
Do you think it is possible and someone will do?
I use the unofficial ExpertRAW heavily and in my opinion it can improve image quality a lot. As long as nobody compare ExpertRAW from both phones, I doubt there will be much hardware upgrades in camera Departement.
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+1, I've been wondering about the same as well,back when I owned an S8+, I remember getting rom ports of the note 8 alongside which you would get the new camera app as well
I know getting the entire rom ported over to the phone,only the camera app should be sufficient here since software updates pretty much bridge any and all difference between phones except for specific apps,like the camera
S22 runs on oneui 4.1, we are on 4.0 probably some of the new features will be available for us once we get an update. To be honest I would wait till that and then see if there is anything "missing".
Probably samsung will restrict something for newest device, but there is a chance that we will get nearly everything as the hardware should not be an issue.
The improvements on main camera seems impossible to port on 21U for the isp on snapdragon 888 can't take one photo in 108MP mode and 12MP mode at the same time which is available on snapdragon 8 Gen 1.