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So I am looking forward to buy the S8 and I do want the unlocked bootloader. I heard that if you buy an S8 or S8+ from T Mobile then you get the U variant instead of T. Is it true? Because as far as I know the S8 and S8+ US variants got the U after the numbers which shows that the bootloader is unlocked.
T-mobile bootloader on the s8/s8+ is locked
KidKnowsTech said:
So I am looking forward to buy the S8 and I do want the unlocked bootloader. I heard that if you buy an S8 or S8+ from T Mobile then you get the U variant instead of T. Is it true? Because as far as I know the S8 and S8+ US variants got the U after the numbers which shows that the bootloader is unlocked.
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Every North American model is the U model, simply with different firmware. Whether you buy a carrier version or the US unlocked model (U1) they are all quite literally the very same U model. This means you CAN do carrier switching, with some work (for instance, install firmware from T-Mobile on to an unlocked model, or Verizon, or whatever) - this DOES NOT however, SIM unlock the device. There was misinformation on the internet that the model numbers would be like they were in the past, but it's not true. If you buy a T-Mobile model, it's the G950U, just like it's the G950U on Verizon and all other carriers (no longer are there "T" models, "V" models, etc). The unlocked model is the G950U1, but it's still the very same model, so the firmwares are interchangeable.
Currently, there is no known way to unlock the bootloader. As of this week, root is available (with some caveats), but no way to unlock the bootloader. The only models you can do that with are the international Exynos models, and the more rare Hong Kong Snapdragon model. I sincerely doubt we'll ever be able to unlock the bootloader, but I'd love to see the XDA community make it happen.
Damn, I guess the International version is better.
The U = carrier unlocked. Not unlockable bootloader. Besides most glass Mashers and text-while-driving people don't even know what the heck a bootloader is lol
Bootloader ? oem
I have been thinking about get a S8+, now my wife's S7 phone and tab S2 tablet you just go to developer options and turn on oem unlock dose the S8 not have that?
brightjh01 said:
I have been thinking about get a S8+, now my wife's S7 phone and tab S2 tablet you just go to developer options and turn on oem unlock dose the S8 not have that?
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stmims1124 said:
Every North American model is the U model, simply with different firmware. Whether you buy a carrier version or the US unlocked model (U1) they are all quite literally the very same U model. This means you CAN do carrier switching, with some work (for instance, install firmware from T-Mobile on to an unlocked model, or Verizon, or whatever) - this DOES NOT however, SIM unlock the device. There was misinformation on the internet that the model numbers would be like they were in the past, but it's not true. If you buy a T-Mobile model, it's the G950U, just like it's the G950U on Verizon and all other carriers (no longer are there "T" models, "V" models, etc). The unlocked model is the G950U1, but it's still the very same model, so the firmwares are interchangeable.
Currently, there is no known way to unlock the bootloader. As of this week, root is available (with some caveats), but no way to unlock the bootloader. The only models you can do that with are the international Exynos models, and the more rare Hong Kong Snapdragon model. I sincerely doubt we'll ever be able to unlock the bootloader, but I'd love to see the XDA community make it happen.
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So what you are basically saying is, 950U s8 models even though unlocked can only be used on other US carries and not internationally??
captainkbj said:
So what you are basically saying is, 950U s8 models even though unlocked can only be used on other US carries and not internationally??
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No, you should be able to use the U1 (North American implied variant) internationally, mostly without issue. I believe it supports most, if not all GSM/LTE bands (CDMA may be a different story). I was just saying you cannot unlock the bootloader on the North American models... Different than SIM/Carrier unlock
Hi!
So I've bought a Samsung S9 Duos recently and to be honest, although I like the phone and have been on a Samsung streak for the past few years, I'm getting seriously tired of their country dependant shenanigans. Because I live in Canada, when I buy a Global phone there's a bunch of stuff that either doesn't work or does only partially. And because the Canadian model is a SD proc, not an Exynos, it's an absolute nightmare to switch CSCs and get everything working right...
I hesitated long and hard to get a P20 pro, but the fact it wasn't available anywhere in Canada made me nervous. But my carrier (Rogers) recently announced it so, being really tired of this Samsung ****e, I'm considering returning the S9 and getting the P20 pro (even if it doesn't have a lot of stuff I like such as the headphone jack, SD card and wireless charging).
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My question is, if I get an international (dual SIM) model of the P20 pro, is it going to be different than the Canadian one? Is there an equivalent of CSC codes with Samsung that I have to worry about, or can I assume it will be the same phone and I just need to activate it to get carrier specifics?
Thanks
I'm not an expert, but before I bought my P20 Pro, I made sure that it worked with the AT&T's network frequency bands. Each network has different bands and if the phone doesn't support the band, it won't connect.
https://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
https://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Here are the tech specs from Huawei:
4G FDD-LTE, TD-LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B6/B7/B8/B9/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B26/B28/B32/B34/B38/B39/B40
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B6/B8/B19
https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/phones/m/p20-pro/tech-specs/
honua said:
I'm not an expert, but before I bought my P20 Pro, I made sure that it worked with the AT&T's network frequency bands. Each network has different bands and if the phone doesn't support the band, it won't connect.]
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Thanks for the input. I checked the bands for sure, and they are covered since it will be sold on my carrier soon. I guess what I meant is more the model itself, if there are variants per country or if we (Canada) are getting the same global version.
You see I come from a Samsung user's background and they have these silly country codes that dictate what you can use and where. I'm not sure it's related, but I found that even if on paper all LTE bands are covered with my S9, it still has shoddy reception compared to a Canadian S7. I could try to flash my CSC code to the phone, but a) it's complicated and risks bricking the phone and b) since the Canadian model is NOT the same as the global one, my CSC cannot be applied to this phone no matter how hard I try...
DenisEhm said:
Thanks for the input. I checked the bands for sure, and they are covered since it will be sold on my carrier soon. I guess what I meant is more the model itself, if there are variants per country or if we (Canada) are getting the same global version.
You see I come from a Samsung user's background and they have these silly country codes that dictate what you can use and where. I'm not sure it's related, but I found that even if on paper all LTE bands are covered with my S9, it still has shoddy reception compared to a Canadian S7. I could try to flash my CSC code to the phone, but a) it's complicated and risks bricking the phone and b) since the Canadian model is NOT the same as the global one, my CSC cannot be applied to this phone no matter how hard I try...
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FunkyHuawei offers a rebranding tool, which changes the region of the ROM. I used it because I bought mine from a Chinese e-commerce website. I rebranded to European region.
I couldn't find anything about International or Global versions of the phone. I know they are region locked, but the rebranding tool will fix that. You can also flash a firmware from FunkHuawei or use HuRUpdater tool from TWRP custom recovery.
I have used both tools, and had 100% success.
https://funkyhuawei.club/rebranding
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/development/tool-flash-official-firmware-recovery-t3769279/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-1-0-t3779400
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
honua said:
FunkyHuawei offers a rebranding tool, which changes the region of the ROM. I used it because I bought mine from a Chinese e-commerce website. I rebranded to European region.
I couldn't find anything about International or Global versions of the phone. I know they are region locked, but the rebranding tool will fix that. You can also flash a firmware from FunkHuawei or use HuRUpdater tool from TWRP custom recovery.
I have used both tools, and had 100% success.
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Cool thanks, I'll see how this could help me out. I'm giving my S9 one last chance but short of that, I'll cough up another $1000 for this phone; I just don't want to end up in the same trap!
Firstly, I hope this is appropriate to post here - I'm new to this and I'm just getting to grips with it all!
Basically, I live in England, but I'll soon be moving to America. While I was on holiday in America this year, I bought an unlocked Note9 because it was cheaper with the exchange rate, and I thought that it would be the better decision, given that I'll be living in the U.S. soon enough.
However, the firmware is different in certain ways, and I much prefer the U.K. firmware versions. There are things missing from the firmware, that my Dad's U.K. Note9 has, and that my old GS8+ had.
My question is, if I flashed the U.K. firmware to my Note9 would that change my device status? I want it to still say 'Official'. Also, would it do anything to the KNOX counter - or would it even work?
Thanks in advance!
ClassilyContagious said:
Firstly, I hope this is appropriate to post here - I'm new to this and I'm just getting to grips with it all!
Basically, I live in England, but I'll soon be moving to America. While I was on holiday in America this year, I bought an unlocked Note9 because it was cheaper with the exchange rate, and I thought that it would be the better decision, given that I'll be living in the U.S. soon enough.
However, the firmware is different in certain ways, and I much prefer the U.K. firmware versions. There are things missing from the firmware, that my Dad's U.K. Note9 has, and that my old GS8+ had.
My question is, if I flashed the U.K. firmware to my Note9 would that change my device status? I want it to still say 'Official'. Also, would it do anything to the KNOX counter - or would it even work?
Thanks in advance!
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uk model is a N960F
us model is a N960U
you cant flash anything from one to the other.
you should have bought the uk version. a high % of Americans buy the international versions for various reasons. one being the locked bootloader on the us version stopping them from attaining root and modifying the system to their will. this year the international F model you guys have in the UK apparently is the lesser phone performance wise. i think it is negligible since rooting is a big advantage in some cases.
anyways please dont mix up unlocked phone meaning not bound to a carrier or region and unlocked bootloader.
cpu arch:
exynos = F model =unblockable bootloader
snapdragon = U model = locked bootloader
both models are avalablabe in region unlocked models.
there are other variants like the N9600 which is special in a way that being a snapdragon, it can have its BL unlocked.
there is also a N960N which is 99% identical to a N960F model.
A N960W In canada which is 99.999% like the us U model.
and finally the F, N and n9600 are all available in DS models too( 2 x sim cards /dual sim)
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However, the firmware is different in certain ways, and I much prefer the U.K. firmware versions. There are things missing from the firmware, that my Dad's U.K. Note9 has, and that my old GS8+ had.
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I'm curious, what stock features does the UK version have over the US version?
It's got that sexy date speed indicator in the status bar
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ramiss said:
I'm curious, what stock features does the UK version have over the US version?
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I currently use multi-line setting for my virtual number (Digits from Tmobile) and would like to continue using it for my future s10+. I'm tempted to go unlocked but I just don't know the difference.
I also heard about slow updates for unlocked? Is this true?
What's the advantage of getting one or the other?
Unlocked will have root + unlocked bootloader. It will run on Exynos. Tmos version will have Snapdragon and be completely locked down with no root.
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I'm sure the US unlocked will be the Snapdragon just like the Note 9, exynos will be international. The unlocked version will see updates last after carrier updates according to Samsung this is because unlocked has to work on all carriers.
I tend to buy unlocked phones as they re-sell better and quicker
I always buy the US unlocked version (Snapdragon). No bloatware and I'm not tied to one carrier. I can change to the lowest cost month 2 month service any time I choose. No contracts.
Does this means that if I buy S10 locked to a carrier I will not be able to root my device? (assuming I buy the version in exynos)
Has anyone had success using unlocked Samsung devices with Xfinity Mobile (who does not currently support bring-your-own-android)?
compujock said:
I always buy the US unlocked version (Snapdragon). No bloatware and I'm not tied to one carrier. I can change to the lowest cost month 2 month service any time I choose. No contracts.
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Lol, oh there's bloarware, like two of everything...but yes, no added carrier bloat. That would just be unbearable.
As far as I'm aware, all the recent US variants of Samsung Galaxy phones, including the factory unlocked variants from Samsung, have traditionally come with locked bootloaders. It is likely this is true for the S10 as well.
gotnoypi said:
I currently use multi-line setting for my virtual number (Digits from Tmobile) and would like to continue using it for my future s10+. I'm tempted to go unlocked but I just don't know the difference.
I also heard about slow updates for unlocked? Is this true?
What's the advantage of getting one or the other?
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The built in multi-line setting is normally available with T-Mobile branded phone, such as S8 and so on. Unlocked model didn't have multi-line support, but you can always download their digits app. If you don't want the app, then you would have to flash your S10 with T-Mobile firmware and get all the features and I do prefer to go with this route as you won't get T-Mobile's bloatware
Charkatak said:
The built in multi-line setting is normally available with T-Mobile branded phone, such as S8 and so on. Unlocked model didn't have multi-line support, but you can always download their digits app. If you don't want the app, then you would have to flash your S10 with T-Mobile firmware and get all the features and I do prefer to go with this route as you won't get T-Mobile's bloatware
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Is there even word that we can even use Odin to flash another firmware on to the S10 like the S8 and 9?
T-Mobile is offering a hell of a better deal on the S10 than Samsung directly with both the monthly payments (if you choose that option) and a better S8 trade in amount at $390 versus $330. It might tempt me to go that route even though carrier bootups and firmware labeling annoys the hell out of me. If it's still possible to flash with Odin, buying from a carrier would be a no brainer. Flash off to the unlocked firmware if you want better rates, and then flash back when you want something on the firmware side.
If its the case like the Note 9 and the S9, then even though you buy the unlocked version, once you pop in the carrier sim the phone will reset to that carriers CSC profile including all the bloatware and apps etc... Change to another carrier and the phone will switch profiles accordingly.
Please correct me if im wrong.
Tacoo said:
Is there even word that we can even use Odin to flash another firmware on to the S10 like the S8 and 9?
T-Mobile is offering a hell of a better deal on the S10 than Samsung directly with both the monthly payments (if you choose that option) and a better S8 trade in amount at $390 versus $330. It might tempt me to go that route even though carrier bootups and firmware labeling annoys the hell out of me. If it's still possible to flash with Odin, buying from a carrier would be a no brainer. Flash off to the unlocked firmware if you want better rates, and then flash back when you want something on the firmware side.
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Odin firmware flashing was possible on previous recent Galaxy phones, including the S9 and the Note 9, so I hope that is still the case with the S10.
If it is not, then honestly I would rather just buy the unlocked version based on principle alone: If I'm buying a phone at full price, then I would rather not buy one that is stuck with a particular carrier's firmware or branding. It's a Samsung phone, not a "TMobile" or "at&t" phone.
Tacoo said:
Is there even word that we can even use Odin to flash another firmware on to the S10 like the S8 and 9?
T-Mobile is offering a hell of a better deal on the S10 than Samsung directly with both the monthly payments (if you choose that option) and a better S8 trade in amount at $390 versus $330. It might tempt me to go that route even though carrier bootups and firmware labeling annoys the hell out of me. If it's still possible to flash with Odin, buying from a carrier would be a no brainer. Flash off to the unlocked firmware if you want better rates, and then flash back when you want something on the firmware side.
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When I was preordering S10e, I was at two roads: T-Mobile variant or unlocked, but it didn't take me long to realize that unlocked would give me more flexibility.
When you flash unlocked unit, it is just a standard flash: using Odin pick a carrier firmware and flash. When you flash a carrier branded phone, in most cases
you would needed "factory binary" firmware because you would need to change CSC(unless your carrier phone was multi-CSC) to the one you need, than in the dial, type some commands to pull up CSC changing menu and after saving and restarting phone, then flash a firmware of your choice In other words it was a longer process. That I why unlocked phone would just be a regular flash and a fast one.
I can't guarantee that there will be a way to flash S10, but most likely it will be possible to do it. I even flashed Galaxy S3, S4 and so on.
I think couple of years ago Samsung made an unlocked firmware that would detect which sim card is inserted and tune the firmware to that sim, but to what extent, I don't know
Also unlocked phones mostly are approved for Samsung beta testing of new Android built(if you are into this)
Eudeferrer said:
Unlocked will have root + unlocked bootloader. It will run on Exynos. Tmos version will have Snapdragon and be completely locked down with no root.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
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The Snapdragon unlocked, U1, is only sim unlocked, not bootloader unlocked.
Charkatak said:
When I was preordering S10e, I was at two roads: T-Mobile variant or unlocked, but it didn't take me long to realize that unlocked would give me more flexibility.
When you flash unlocked unit, it is just a standard flash: using Odin pick a carrier firmware and flash. When you flash a carrier branded phone, in most cases
you would needed "factory binary" firmware because you would need to change CSC(unless your carrier phone was multi-CSC) to the one you need, than in the dial, type some commands to pull up CSC changing menu and after saving and restarting phone, then flash a firmware of your choice In other words it was a longer process. That I why unlocked phone would just be a regular flash and a fast one.
I can't guarantee that there will be a way to flash S10, but most likely it will be possible to do it. I even flashed Galaxy S3, S4 and so on.
I think couple of years ago Samsung made an unlocked firmware that would detect which sim card is inserted and tune the firmware to that sim, but to what extent, I don't know
Also unlocked phones mostly are approved for Samsung beta testing of new Android built(if you are into this)
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I'm wondering... regarding changing the CSC if flashing from a carrier-specific firmware to the unlocked firmware, is this the equivalent of needing to use a patched Odin that bypasses CSC match check? I've never actually done this process, but have been reading about it.
Kjn246 said:
I'm wondering... regarding changing the CSC if flashing from a carrier-specific firmware to the unlocked firmware, is this the equivalent of needing to use a patched Odin that bypasses CSC match check? I've never actually done this process, but have been reading about it.
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The last phones I flashed was my unlocked S8 and Sprint S8 Active.
So when I flashed my unlocked s8 to T-Mo firmware, I just used regular Odin because unlocked phones have multi-csc codes for many different carriers.
When I needed to flash back to unlocked XAA csc, then I had to use modified Odin and flashing completed successfully.
With Sprint S8 Active model, I had to jump through few hoops and it wasn't pleasant as at the time of my flashing, most people had other phones and no special "factory binary" firmware was freely available.
I don't recall exactly, but: I took Odin(possibly regular) flashed with special factory binary firmware which had the ability to change csc codes to the one I need, then it would restart my phone, than I think I used modified Odin to flash the final firmware of my choice. I wanted to convert Sprint model to T-Mobile
So I'm pretty much asking for the meta/everything that I need to know about LGV40 development. I don't want to make the same mistake again by not researching or asking and just plunge to get a locked variant like the H932 for the LGV30. So what is the US998 LGV30 equivalent of LGV40 that's compatible with all custom roms?
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So I'm pretty much asking for the meta/everything that I need to know about LGV40 development. I don't want to make the same mistake again by not researching or asking and just plunge to get a locked variant like the H932 for the LGV30. So what is the US998 LGV30 equivalent of LGV40 that's compatible with all custom roms?
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I'm guessing, since you mentioned the H932, you're in the states? Assuming that's true, I'd recommend the AT&T variant. I think the variant that would come with the NAO US Open firmware would be the V405QA7 which I've not seen one for sale (they actually have a listing for an 'unlocked' variant on swappa just now, but it's actually the LM-V409 which is the Korean variant!)
The at&t variant is also available unlocked (sim unlocked). With it, you can crossflash to the US Open kdz (only Pie now, Q supposedly soon), or to other 'Open' variants like the Korean Open, which is pretty popular (it **does** have band 71, oddly, as they don't have that band in Korea).
But yes, absolutely, stay away from t-mo variant. If you read the threads re unlocking or crossflashing, installing twrp or Lineage, etc, they **all** say 'every variant but t-mo!'.
cheers
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I'm guessing, since you mentioned the H932, you're in the states? Assuming that's true, I'd recommend the AT&T variant. I think the variant that would come with the NAO US Open firmware would be the V405QA7 which I've not seen one for sale (they actually have a listing for an 'unlocked' variant on swappa just now, but it's actually the LM-V409 which is the Korean variant!)
The at&t variant is also available unlocked (sim unlocked). With it, you can crossflash to the US Open kdz (only Pie now, Q supposedly soon), or to other 'Open' variants like the Korean Open, which is pretty popular (it **does** have band 71, oddly, as they don't have that band in Korea).
But yes, absolutely, stay away from t-mo variant. If you read the threads re unlocking or crossflashing, installing twrp or Lineage, etc, they **all** say 'every variant but t-mo!'.
cheers
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Yes, I am from US and also a T-mobile users hence I went with H932(T-mobile) V30. Thanks a lot!
So it should be V405UA is the AT&T the one I should be looking for? I just wanna make sure because sometimes, some models share the same name. Like for example, in LGV30. I think two carriers share the same model.
noddledizzy said:
Yes, I am from US and also a T-mobile users hence I went with H932(T-mobile) V30. Thanks a lot!
So it should be V405UA is the AT&T the one I should be looking for? I just wanna make sure because sometimes, some models share the same name. Like for example, in LGV30. I think two carriers share the same model.
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Yes, that's the one.and also yes, I think Verizon and Sprint have the same model name.