Hello everyone, currently I have OnePlus Two which is kind of "falling a part" and I want to upgrade but don't spend crazy amounts of money for S8/5T etc. I'm currently looking for "USED" OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7 Edge. The reason I'm considering the S7 Edge is the IP68 rating mainly and the camera kinda. What are your thoughts ? Thanks ^^
What is the price difference in your area for OP3T versus S7 Edge? Brand new, the difference was like double, and didn't to me justify a somewhat better camera and IP68 rating (plus nicer display). And that is from someone that takes a lot of photos with my phone.
Developer community was also a big consideration for me. OP3T was the most active xda section, when the device was the "current" OP phone. And I believe that popularity was only surpassed by the subsequent OP devices. So if mods, ROMs, and dev community are your thing, the OP3T is the way to go.
redpoint73 said:
What is the price difference in your area for OP3T versus S7 Edge? Brand new, the difference was like double, and didn't to me justify a somewhat better camera and IP68 rating (plus nicer display). And that is from someone that takes a lot of photos with my phone.
Developer community was also a big consideration for me. OP3T was the most active xda section, when the device was the "current" OP phone. And I believe that popularity was only surpassed by the subsequent OP devices. So if mods, ROMs, and dev community are your thing, the OP3T is the way to go.
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They have the same price in the used market.
As @redpoint73 said, you should shoot for the 3T if you're an avid flasher/modder. If you want the surface looks of a good flagship that'll get you through most of anything, then the S7 is what you need.
The only two main real world differences between the two are the Screen, where the S7 has a higher resolution, and the Camera, and whereas again the S7 has a very good camera, even in TouchWiz/Samsung Experience.
If they're both the same price for you, shoot for the 3T imo, it has good development support and the specs will hold up for the next two years by the by. Even though official support is ending in about half a year, the development community is huge, and you won't find a main ROM that does not have a 3(T) branch.
Development/Modding on the GS7 won't be easy, as it requires a third party program on Windows called ODIN to flash recoveries or anything. On the 3T, you just need ADB/Fastboot drivers, and you're ready to conquer the development world!
IF you decide to go for the S7, make sure you buy the Snapdragon Variant, instead of the Exynos, since the SD variant has supposedly better community support. But if you don't mind the down to earth looks in a phone, the 3T is what you should get.
In my opinion, the glass/ceramic body of the S7 is far superior to the Aluminium body of the 3T. Some may say so, and others may say the Aluminium looks beastly.
Also, did I mention Dash Charge? You can charge your 3T in less than an hour, and some ROMs, since they've been debloated, can charge completely in 45M. I've experienced this firsthand, and it still quite blows my mind, even after owning the 3T for almost a year now. Qualcomm QC can't even yet reach Dash Charge standards, and DC has saved my bum more times than I can count.
TL;DR, Go for the S7 if you want looks, or go for the 3T if you want raw power with a great community, which will future proof you for the next 3 years at least.
Cheers!
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As @redpoint73 said, you should shoot for the 3T if you're an avid flasher/modder. If you want the surface looks of a good flagship that'll get you through most of anything, then the S7 is what you need.
The only two main real world differences between the two are the Screen, where the S7 has a higher resolution, and the Camera, and whereas again the S7 has a very good camera, even in TouchWiz/Samsung Experience.
If they're both the same price for you, shoot for the 3T imo, it has good development support and the specs will hold up for the next two years by the by. Even though official support is ending in about half a year, the development community is huge, and you won't find a main ROM that does not have a 3(T) branch.
Development/Modding on the GS7 won't be easy, as it requires a third party program on Windows called ODIN to flash recoveries or anything. On the 3T, you just need ADB/Fastboot drivers, and you're ready to conquer the development world!
IF you decide to go for the S7, make sure you buy the Snapdragon Variant, instead of the Exynos, since the SD variant has supposedly better community support. But if you don't mind the down to earth looks in a phone, the 3T is what you should get.
In my opinion, the glass/ceramic body of the S7 is far superior to the Aluminium body of the 3T. Some may say so, and others may say the Aluminium looks beastly.
Also, did I mention Dash Charge? You can charge your 3T in less than an hour, and some ROMs, since they've been debloated, can charge completely in 45M. I've experienced this firsthand, and it still quite blows my mind, even after owning the 3T for almost a year now. Qualcomm QC can't even yet reach Dash Charge standards, and DC has saved my bum more times than I can count.
TL;DR, Go for the S7 if you want looks, or go for the 3T if you want raw power with a great community, which will future proof you for the next 3 years at least.
Cheers!
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Ordered OnePlus 3T a bit used for 280$ with a lot of accessories.
I hope the upgrade is worth it.
MachineZZ said:
Ordered OnePlus 3T a bit used for 280$ with a lot of accessories.
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I don't think you will be disappointed.
Also, please try to refrain from quoting a whole huge post, just to respond with one sentence. I know the default when responding to a post, is to include the whole quote. But just edit it, and delete what doesn't apply, before posting. This cuts down on forum clutter, and makes your thread easier to read and follow.
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As @redpoint73 said, you should shoot for the 3T if you're an avid flasher/modder. If you want the surface looks of a good flagship that'll get you through most of anything, then the S7 is what you need.
The only two main real world differences between the two are the Screen, where the S7 has a higher resolution, and the Camera, and whereas again the S7 has a very good camera, even in TouchWiz/Samsung Experience.
If they're both the same price for you, shoot for the 3T imo, it has good development support and the specs will hold up for the next two years by the by. Even though official support is ending in about half a year, the development community is huge, and you won't find a main ROM that does not have a 3(T) branch.
Development/Modding on the GS7 won't be easy, as it requires a third party program on Windows called ODIN to flash recoveries or anything. On the 3T, you just need ADB/Fastboot drivers, and you're ready to conquer the development world!
IF you decide to go for the S7, make sure you buy the Snapdragon Variant, instead of the Exynos, since the SD variant has supposedly better community support. But if you don't mind the down to earth looks in a phone, the 3T is what you should get.
In my opinion, the glass/ceramic body of the S7 is far superior to the Aluminium body of the 3T. Some may say so, and others may say the Aluminium looks beastly.
Also, did I mention Dash Charge? You can charge your 3T in less than an hour, and some ROMs, since they've been debloated, can charge completely in 45M. I've experienced this firsthand, and it still quite blows my mind, even after owning the 3T for almost a year now. Qualcomm QC can't even yet reach Dash Charge standards, and DC has saved my bum more times than I can count.
TL;DR, Go for the S7 if you want looks, or go for the 3T if you want raw power with a great community, which will future proof you for the next 3 years at least.
Cheers!
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Didnt they release the sources with the nougat update
Samitha192 said:
Didnt they release the sources with the nougat update
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Seriously? Please read my post (just before yours).
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Please read my post (just before yours).
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Was funny reading an entire huge post quoted right after you said that LOL.
Great buy. but i think you could have got your hands on Honor Phones too.
You should be happy with the OP3T. It's a pretty big upgrade over the OP2.
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Seriously? Please read my post (just before yours).
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Sorry
Related
This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
I'm satisfied with the Snapdragon 820's integrated DAC, and this is coming from someone who's accumulated thousands of dollars of audio equipment through the years.
I really don't care what my photographs look like on a phone's tiny 1080p screen. I edit and examine my photographs on my computer and the 4K television it outputs them to. I'm satisfied, as long as the phone takes great shots and film that are worthy for future preservation.
It is a little odd for you to post this on the OP3's XDA developer forum, if you're not one who commonly unlocks, roots, and contributes, besides the fact you seem unsatisfied with the phone. I don't think that you will find many people if any who would encourage to switch devices here.
In fact, I really dislike the ZTE brand, they are poor in updating their device's software, the quality control is poor, all three ZTE devices I've owned have suffered hardware failures, one as recent last month with my father's Axon. The developer community and customer service is poor as well. OnePlus has poor customer service, but developer community is among the best.
I wish you luck on your journey.
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Judging by these comparisons I've found, the Axon7 has some advantages, but overall the OP3 still beats it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iln4VouVW-Q
Camera is better on the OP3 except the abysmal camcorder audio, which has been fixed on XDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF-J-zCKQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGzHmIqbkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5sQBh_qnJk
the most important factor for me: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device.
I was in the same situation as you are right now but quickly reconsidered after seeing these videos.
Their ui is ugly too
biglilsteve said:
This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
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Well well... If that bootloader is unlocked I'm in
I'm also on the fence between OP3 and Axon 7; both devices have strong and weak points, but as OP say the ZTE UI and bootloader lock would make the difference.
Quality checks also do have importance, thus it would be nice to hear from existing Axon 7 owners.
You're not on an Axon 7 forum what's the point of this thread? If you want to move on a new phone our opinion doesn't matter.
Well if someone happen to have both, or experience with ZTE, it does. I am also interested to know. The Axon 7 I believe offers 2 UI choices; the ZTE one, and stock Android, which is a big plus (no DnD disabled-slider BS and whatnot). This is a good forum to discuss it, because the audience is tech-savy and can give good feedback on what they know about difference between Op3 and A7, I think.
Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
Axon - ?
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.... Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device...
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This is the most important plus point for OP3 over axon.
And this is the reason I'll always go with OP3
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Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
Axon - ?
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Axon should have better display and audio (both DAC and speakers).
Design and development wise OP3 wins hands down, though.
Im on the same boat, the phone on paper beats the the 1+3 (bigger battery, better screen, better sound, expandable storage, etc) I almost preordered it, there are a few things holding me back, this will be my 1st time buying an ZTE phone, I dont know how good their hardware is, nobody knows anything about their update system, is uncertain if the bootloader will be unlocked, the black/grey version will be coming out the 2nd week of August by that time the next Nexus might already be announced (I know I might want that phone too).
@Giocarro
The OP3 DAC can easily compete with higher priced devices
https://youtu.be/ATxLNEDYqDk?t=1h23m54s
http://pocketnow.com/2016/06/27/oneplus-3-review#toc-7
Initial anecdotal impressions of the OP3 were very positive.
This phone has a clean, punchy, balanced output from the headphone jack,
and this amp is more powerful than the hardware found on the Galaxy S7 or LG G5.
Running this phone through some analyzer tools, it handily beat those two flagships,
and trailed directly behind some of our absolute favorite music phones like the HTC 10 and LG V10,
just nipping at the heels of the iPhone 6S. This was shocking in the best way possible.
The OnePlus 3 sounds like a very good option for the audiophile on a budget.
The bottom firing speaker is no slouch either. Not the loudest we’ve tested for alerts and notifications,
but providing detailed and crisp playback.
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Good discussion guys. @AcmE85, the links you posted are very helpful!
Obviously, I could have taken this post to the ZTE forum but I didn't want to be inundated with responses from people that are overly excited about the ZTE. I figured here, people might be a little more calculated in their responses...and most of you have been. Thank you!
I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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Yeah, your comments were very objective.
I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Looks like the love child of a radiator cover and an LG :laugh:
Buying a phone beased on hardware specs is never a good idea. ZTE is too new in this game. You will just waste money.
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Please explain why you say that. Exclude updates (could be bootloader unlock)
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
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i went from an S7 to the OnePlus3 and im extremely happy with my decision.
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Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
Cause.
#neversettle
Better deal/performance? Too single out post is hardly proof of dodgy postings generally?
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Because
1. lack of soc sources.
2. lower price and if not same even better performance.
3. and more then 1080p is overkill
4. faster charging.
I would do the same.
And you can sell a s7 and buy op3 + a real high end camera. Op3 is still the best phone. No matter what media is telling you. But its still up to you.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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well then let me clarify.
didnt sell it, gave it to my wife, so it's still around. i love the S7. my S7 was the dual sim version. i couldn't stand the 2g on the 2nd sim. when i saw that the OP3 had dual sim capabilities, with 3g on one and lte on the other, i made the jump.
so, my ovations arent baseless.
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Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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like i said on that same thread.... S7 and S7e have better hardware (camera, wireless fast charging, QC3.0, QHD screen, etc) but the software sucks (which affects performance). Dev scene is also terrible.
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And you can sell a s7 and buy op3 + a real high end camera. Op3 is still the best phone. No matter what media is telling you. But its still up to you.
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did this myself a few years ago, when I got the OnePlus One + a Sony RX100 on sale which in total was still less than a 64GB Samsung Flagship
SW after-processing (ie, HDR) and better sensors make a big difference, but you're still never going to replicate the performance of a REAL quality camera, even if it's a point and shoot.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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Can't comment on above case, but some of us feel uneasy having so much money invested in a phone when a very close competitor is half the price. In my case my contract was up for renewal got a HTC 10, ebayed it for £450 bought a OnePlus3 pocketed over £100.
And Touchwiz.
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I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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I literally just did exactly this. I actually still have the S7, but just threw it up on craigslist this morning. For me, I found the S7's performance and battery life to be extremely subpar. When I first got it the phone was lightning fast, but over time EVERY part of the user experience developed lag. Factory resets did nothing, deleting apps did nothing. Maybe I got a lemon, but it was terrible by the end. By contrast, the OP3 is very fast and battery life seems to be about on par. The faster charging is nice.
I will say though, the screen and camera are far superior on the S7. It's not even close. But I shoot professionally with my DSLR, so a phone's camera is of little consequence to me. And while it's not as good, the OP3 1080P screen is beyond acceptable. Also, the benefit of running stock android cannot be overstated. It is a world better than the Samsung skinned variant.
All feature differences aside. I bought both phones on craigslist over the last few months. S7 was $450, OP3 was $300. I've already gotten offers on my S7 for $400 with it being up only a few hours. I'll gladly pocket the $100+ difference and live with the OP3, for now.
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I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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As far as I remember I never created a thread to tell other forum members my product was better than theirs. This thread is kinda funny, isn't it? I would never buy a Samsung device like I would never buy any Apple products. For me the OnePlus 3 is the best available phone. It's modding- and community-friendly and comes with a powerfull hardware at a fair price. I'm not willed to pay for company's million-dollar marketing campaigns.
i used a galaxy s7 edge extensively and its the best camera phone out there. but when it comes to the whole package its sucks ball. to me the build quality is zero its pathetic, cant find a single protector here where i live that wont come off after 2 days. phone is unusable without something on the back. coz its silpery as hell. the worst part is the software. touchwiz is the worst skin ever in the history of android. these reviewer who say the new touchwiz is fast and responsive. r not using the fone as daily drivers. its lag fest for me. also the clicking home button sounds like it will break any sec.
the only reason i bought the one plus 3 was the performance. i m getting that too its not perfect but its million times better then what samsung galaxy s7 edge offered to me. i payed over 530 dollers here to buy a oneplus 3. and i m happy about my purchase.
thanks
death to all glass back phones,p
Happy OnePlus devices user for 27 months, spreading around the word that you can only spend 399 for a great phone!!
I actually think more people and reviewers get payed by Samsung or Apple to praise their overpriced junk.
Maybe topicstarter got paid to stir the pot in the OnePlus section to praise the Samsung products..
everyone is saying that s7 edge is better, i dont know why and how, but i can take better photos with my OP3... i tried many times but my OP3 take better photos than my brother's S7e. just video recording is much better on S7e...
the performance is better. the software support is better. the selfie camera is better. the charging speed is faster. the price is lower... So OP3 > S7E
I actually moved from the s7 edge to the op3, only the camera's quality* speed and sound is better than the op3.
*most of the time
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I sold my LG G5 and bought Oneplus 3.
The Lg was lacking developement and support so badly. And I haven't regret my decicion at all!
Only thing I miss is the sdcard.
Since it seems perfectly clear that some people are more than willing to swap an S7 for a OP3, can we close this thread? It's nothing but a witch hunt where one doesn't need to exist.
I have both S7E destroys it in pretty much every department but fast charging, Since OP3 battery life sucks you need it haha :laugh:
Everything else > this thread. Coming from the Nexus 6 here. I have to say that the OP3 is a solid phone for the price. You can't really get much more for the same price. 6gb ram, 64 gb storage, dual sim, extremely fast charging. Yeah the battery life could be better, and the sim tray could be a hybrid type tray for microsd cards like the Axon, the screen could be a higher res. Other than that its a great phone. It has solid specs, and an unlockable bootloader, two things that make a device highly favored by XDA goers.
If someone wants to buy me another phone to put it to the test I'd be happy to take them up on the offer (;
nothing good can come from this thread.
Thread closed.
Hey guys, I'm just here for some recommendations. I'm a power user. I'm the type of guy to be playing a heavy game and to switch to snapchat or any other social media app and switch back into the game and continue where I was. I'm the type of guy to root and install xPosed modules on every single android phone I own since I love having limitless customization. While I love customization and multitasking and all, I still would greatly appreciate a great camera (front and back) and a premium looking and feeling phone. Which phone would you recommend for me? Also on a side note, How is snapchat on the OP3T? (since I'm a heavy snapper)
Camera is awful. Everything else is great. Don't waste your time or you will be extremely disappointed in this camera in every possible way. I got lucky I don't care about the camera.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/camera-disappointing.481515/
954wrecker said:
Camera is awful. Everything else is great. Don't waste your time or you will be extremely disappointed in this camera in every possible way. I got lucky I don't care about the camera.
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Is it really that bad??
If your into camera/pics then s7edge and its really not worth the discussion.
Everything else, the 3T is the better option, especially software, battery life, speed/fluidity.
The s7edge screen is a tad better impression though.
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Is it really that bad??
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no, but it is much worse than on S7 Edge or iP7+
If you can live with 1080p screen less vibrant screen, pretty standard below par camera and limited storage then OnePlus 3t otherwise it's S7E.
I've got both and I prefer S7E.
Apart from the cam, it's very easy for "you kind"...
If you unlock and root any sammy device your warranty is void. Oneplus has quite an other warranty policy:
https://oneplus.net/support/answer/will-rooting-or-unlocking-the-bootloader-void-my-warranty
If you want to develop/build roms the deccission becomes even easier: oneplus and qcom do support the open source community much better then samsung does. The latter even try to sabotate open source development, by puplishing broken and not working code.
For me (and "guys like me" ) these are the two main reasons to go for oneplus and never ever buy a samsung device again - but along with your personal usecase your milage may vary.
If u can afford S7 edge then BUY IT!!!! Seriously, OP3T is good but S7E is much much better. I know a lot of people will say it lacks performance but in every other factor its the king(other than pixel and iPhone 7/plus).
i returned S7E and got OP3T and it is far better, even in handling in 1 hand for me. Camera is awful on OP3T for sure, and much worse than s7e unfortunatelly, but i do not care much about this
My 2 cents - My choice for new phone (after my N6P died) was OP3T, SGS7 or Pixel.
A little reading showed Dev after Dev stating that Samsung fails to support the community by withholding what should be quick release of open source files.
Oneplus is the opposite so far. They are very supportive of aftermarket modification and I can say my initial impression of build quality is very good.
I'm not a good person to judge the cameras as I only use my cell phones for quick snapshots.
The only deficit I saw was the absence of a memory card slot on the OP3T. However, they only charged about $40 Canadian more for the 128 GB model.
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If camera is the most important thing to you, then go for Samsung. If root, speed/power, and multitasking is more important to you, then go for the OP3T. I take many pictures on my 3T and I'm impressed with the quality. It's very good, but it can't compare at all to the S7E. It's really good, but not nearly as good as Samsung's cameras. Everything else on the 3T is better than the S7E to me. The screen isn't as high of quality, but that also allows for longer battery life and better performance. I think the build quality is fairly comparable on both devices. They're just different. The OP3T is probably a little more durable than the S7E simply because it has less glass in its build. So in short, whatever is not as good on the OP3T is still rather good... Just not AS good as the S7E.
I don't have an S7 edge, but I do have an S7 and honestly I'm quite disappointed with it myself. Based on my experience with my S7 and from what I have read from other users here is what I can conclude.
S7 - Pro's
Camera
physical size is a little smaller so it's easier to hold
Display resolution might b a little better
OnePlus 3T - Pros
Performance - speed
multitasking
opening apps
bootloader can easily be unlocked
this phone is user friendly in terms of modding/customizing it (especially in comparison to the S7)
It's VERY reasonable in price compared to many other phones. Especially for the hardware it has packed in it.
Conclusion...
You have to ask yourself if you use your phone more for pictures and video versus anything else.
For me personally, I enjoy taking pics, but the S7 is sooo laggy! Touchwiz is HORRIBLE compared to OxygenOS.
Also a HUGE turn off on the S7 for me was all the bloatware that's installed on the phone. I have about 330 apps on there, and you can disable them but you will need to be rooted to uninstall them.
OnePlus 3t from what I'm reading doesn't come with many unwanted apps, and if you want you can easily disable uninstall them.
Side note, I have heard users say that the older version of OxygenOS was a little laggy as well, but this has been fixed in the newest update 4.0+
When it comes down to it, for regular use of a phone, I would go with the OnePlus 3t. I am currently considering in getting one for myself because I have run into so many issues with the S7.
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I just noticed that the OnePlus 3t also comes with a pre-applied screen protector. That's pretty cool too! Usually this is a additional accessory on phones. Can anyone that already owns the phone tell if the screen protector is good? How does it compare to invisi-shield or similar?
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[/COLOR]I just noticed that the OnePlus 3t also comes with a pre-applied screen protector. That's pretty cool too! Usually this is a additional accessory on phones. Can anyone that already owns the phone tell if the screen protector is good? How does it compare to invisi-shield or similar?
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Hmm, mine was delivered without additional screen protector. But what comes to my mind: when I got my opo 2 1/2 years ago, it was delivered without sp, too. But when a friend of mine ordered a one just a few days after two was announced, it comes with pre-appliwd sp. Back then we thought it was a refurbished device, since the production of one was stoped, when the two was introduced. After reading your post, I doubt the assumption we made back then - but I wonder, why some oneplus devices are sp equiped, while others are not...!?!? Really strange.
BTW: my model is A3003.
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If camera is the most important thing to you, then go for Samsung. If root, speed/power, and multitasking is more important to you, then go for the OP3T. I take many pictures on my 3T and I'm impressed with the quality. It's very good, but it can't compare at all to the S7E. It's really good, but not nearly as good as Samsung's cameras. Everything else on the 3T is better than the S7E to me. The screen isn't as high of quality, but that also allows for longer battery life and better performance. I think the build quality is fairly comparable on both devices. They're just different. The OP3T is probably a little more durable than the S7E simply because it has less glass in its build. So in short, whatever is not as good on the OP3T is still rather good... Just not AS good as the S7E.
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Thank you! I've made up my mind. I'm not that big on the camera, I just want a good quality that doesn't lag and takes good pics on Snapchat esp. Can you tell how the Snapchat quality is?
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Hmm, mine was delivered without additional screen protector. But what comes to my mind: when I got my opo 2 1/2 years ago, it was delivered without sp, too. But when a friend of mine ordered a one just a few days after two was announced, it comes with pre-appliwd sp. Back then we thought it was a refurbished device, since the production of one was stoped, when the two was introduced. After reading your post, I doubt the assumption we made back then - but I wonder, why some oneplus devices are sp equiped, while others are not...!?!? Really strange.
BTW: my model is A3003.
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I just noticed it on their site:
https://oneplus.net/3t/specs
If you scroll down to the "In the Box" section.
In The Box
1x OnePlus 3T
1x Screen Protector (pre-applied)
1x Dash Type-C Cable
1x Dash Power Adapter
1x SIM Tray Ejector
1x Quick Start Guide
1x Safety Information
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Akesi said:
Thank you! I've made up my mind. I'm not that big on the camera, I just want a good quality that doesn't lag and takes good pics on Snapchat esp. Can you tell how the Snapchat quality is?
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I can't really speak for Snapchat quality specifically, as I don't use that app, but to me, the front facing camera quality is very good!
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I just noticed it on their site:
https://oneplus.net/3t/specs
If you scroll down to the "In the Box" section.
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You are right. And I was overmotivated: Mine was delivered with(!) screen protector, but it was really loose around the home-button/fp-sensor, that I thought it was just the normal transport protection and removed it... *lol* Just tried to reapply it, but it has no hold in the lower area, in deed the two small parts at each side of the home button are flapping loosly (like it was at the beginning making me think it's only for transport). Anyway - I don't care about pre-applied screen protection, and your and my finding gave me a good laugh!
That's funny!
I'll be sure I don't make the same mistake when I get my phone.
My choise was S7e, more confident in samsung devices, but this is only my opinion
So I made an expensive mistake, thinking that I could live with a locked down device and grabbed a Pixel XL through VZW and I've reached a point where my inner flashaholic is screaming for his fix. I am considering other devices and am curious if there is anybody here with a 3T that had previously had one of the Pixels, and their personal opinions on how each device stacked up against each other.
I haven't got a Pixel, but I've used it extensively through work (I'm a web developer, so we used various devices for testing websites with).
The camera is much better on the Pixel, but otherwise the OP3T is just simply better. More RAM, same CPU, more storage (at least, cheaper) which is as-fast, same GPU. Overall better performance (as seen in benchmarks). And, it's unlockable and customisable. It's also brick proof (software brick, not house brick!). So is the PIxel, but your VZW is locked down as you know.
I just traded my pixel XL for a 3t a few hours ago. Time will tell. Will come back to update possibly. Camera is absolutely noticable.
Returned my Pixel for a 3T, too. IMO, the blazingly fast 3T is superior in every way except camera. All I want in a phone camera is for it to take good still shots. Couldn't care less for all the advanced crap. 3T's camera is good enough for me. A 1440p screen would be nice, but 1080p works. I also use an iPhone 7+, so am used to the screen size/pixel density.
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I haven't got a Pixel, but I've used it extensively through work (I'm a web developer, so we used various devices for testing websites with).
The camera is much better on the Pixel, but otherwise the OP3T is just simply better. More RAM, same CPU, more storage (at least, cheaper) which is as-fast, same GPU. Overall better performance (as seen in benchmarks). And, it's unlockable and customisable. It's also brick proof (software brick, not house brick!). So is the PIxel, but your VZW is locked down as you know.
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It makes me wish the camera had the same tech as the flagships because i wouldn't upgrade my phone for anything. I have a feeling oneplus will start making flagships not flagship killers though because lets face it the 3t is like 90% there already. The should release a 5T and 5B (budget), T for people like me who want the best available but don't want to go to samsung, and the B for people who just love the drastically cheaper price and quality phone which is also me .
See it's funny as I was looking to go the other way. Get a Pixel as I tend to change my phone every six months or so. I loved having the pure Android phones with the latest OS.
Are the Pixels difficult to unlock and root? I assumed they'd be as easy as OP3T. I think sometimes I forget how decent the OP3T is! Ian already thinking of getting the Xiaomi mi6 plus until the OP4/5 is released.
The 1080 pentile display on the 3T kills me, I hate it. Apart from that and the poor camera it's better than the Pixel.
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The display on the 3T is fine and pentile isn't an issue at all. Also 1080p is just fine and looks sharp. High res screens on phones look silly and are barely noticeable. They also consume more resources to run.
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See it's funny as I was looking to go the other way. Get a Pixel as I tend to change my phone every six months or so. I loved having the pure Android phones with the latest OS.
Are the Pixels difficult to unlock and root? I assumed they'd be as easy as OP3T. I think sometimes I forget how decent the OP3T is! Ian already thinking of getting the Xiaomi mi6 plus until the OP4/5 is released.
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Honestly, it's a pain. TWRP is not reliable. There are a few versions but none can do backups or restore. Basically when something happens you need to plug it in and ADB and/or fastboot. Both SU and magisk (unofficial only) can also get aggravating.
OT while the 3T is fast and is great in many ways. I decided to list mine this week. The camera can get rough as I have a nearly full blurry album from the other night.
Thinking about waiting a month or 2 or diving straight to the Mate 9, still undecided.
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Honestly, it's a pain. TWRP is not reliable. There are a few versions but none can do backups or restore. Basically when something happens you need to plug it in and ADB and/or fastboot. Both SU and magisk (unofficial only) can also get aggravating.
OT while the 3T is fast and is great in many ways. I decided to list mine this week. The camera can get rough as I have a nearly full blurry album from the other night.
Thinking about waiting a month or 2 or diving straight to the Mate 9, still undecided.
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My OP3T is now on EBay. I was gonna hop to Xiaomi Mi6, but there doesn't look like a plus version now - and I don't want 5.15", so maybe not. Perhaps the OP5?
I would like to try something else. Huawei seems kinda expensive for what it is.
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My OP3T is now on EBay. I was gonna hop to Xiaomi Mi6, but there doesn't look like a plus version now - and I don't want 5.15", so maybe not. Perhaps the OP5?
I would like to try something else. Huawei seems kinda expensive for what it is.
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Oh the Plus is coming http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xiao...apdragon-835-powered-phablet-incoming_id93266
Perhaps the OP5, I feel the design is going to be great.
Eh, Mate 9 on swappa. I have seen as low as 450ish. I see it as a potential trade for the 3t is around the same rate.
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Oh the Plus is coming http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xiao...apdragon-835-powered-phablet-incoming_id93266
Perhaps the OP5, I feel the design is going to be great.
Eh, Mate 9 on swappa. I have seen as low as 450ish. I see it as a potential trade for the 3t is around the same rate.
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I wouldn't hold my breath for OP5. My bet is that OP5 shipments will be a nightmare. Way worse than previous shipment issues of OnePlus devices. Leaks are saying that OP5 will come with Snapdragon 835. Samsung already reserved the first batches of 835 making even traditional OEMs to have hard times to get their hands on new SoC.
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I wouldn't hold my breath for OP5. My bet is that OP5 shipments will be a nightmare. Way worse than previous shipment issues of OnePlus devices. Leaks are saying that OP5 will come with Snapdragon 835. Samsung already reserved the first batches of 835 making even traditional OEMs to have hard times to get their hands on new SoC.
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Eh who knows. 835 supply should be fine during the summer. You have so many flagships waiting. You have to keep in mind the demand could only be for so long.
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Oh the Plus is coming http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xiao...apdragon-835-powered-phablet-incoming_id93266
Perhaps the OP5, I feel the design is going to be great.
Eh, Mate 9 on swappa. I have seen as low as 450ish. I see it as a potential trade for the 3t is around the same rate.
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I'll take it back - the Huawei phones for what you get is a lot more powerful than what is out there. The Huawei Mate 9 Pro is particularly good value stacked against the Pixel/Samsung S8 or iPhone 7 Plus.
However, bang for your buck the Honor 8 Pro/V9 seems to be very good value for money.
The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Charging: phenomenally quick charging, bested by none. (Thanks @3DSammy )
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
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The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
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Not everyone agrees with you. When you speak of user experience, do you mean something like TouchWiz? No thanks. As close to stock as possible is what people in this forum prefer.
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think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
OP5 to me is the Nexus that I've missed.... It's speedy and utilitarian... The pixel didn't appeal to me and I think maybe alot of the og Nexus fans too....
If you don't like Nexus, I'm guessing you won't like OP....
Couldn't disagree more with the OP. This is the best phone I've ever owned. And the UI is basically vanilla android but with see very useful additions. The kind of additions I used to flash custom ROMs to get.
I was a successful customer of one plus 3 and 3T... I loved these 2 very much as these were best of their time.... Except dual camera setup which is still not as stable as it should be and Dash charger, I do not see big differences in from previous ones...
Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
You do realize it is a small company and they kinda have to update 3 phones now. This takes a bit o time. Besides, they probably invest most of their resources on the Oreo update now.
Do you really think Samsung offers better updates?
As for the differences between last year's model and this year's model - there never is a big differences between those. Generally speaking. They are more like incremental upgrades.
Let's take the S7 and S8. The biggest difference is the screen and that's pretty much it.
In my opinion, one should always skip one phone generation to get the best results. If you had the 3T, there was no reason to get the 5 now. It's better to wait for the 6 as that may be a better upgrade. Same applies to Samsung, LG, HTC and everything else.
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The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
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You expect OnePlus to innovate? They've barely been around for five years.
Quit dreaming and buy an iPhone or a Samsung.
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
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Completely agree with the charging it's not of this earth.
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Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
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Please compare this to another phone and put the the other ahead!! What phone out ever has no problems? The fact that your 3 is still getting updates in a timely manner is a good thing.
The reason why we got a OnePlus is partly because we prefer as close as possible AOSP experience with a few value added enhancements
If you're into UI and stuff, you're definitely looking the wrong phone and should consider what Samsung or Xiaomi has to offer instead
Download a launcher.
This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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hahah , yeah.
Damn people, they want stupid gadget but dont want to pay for it.
For many people, the op5 is perfect because it's simple, still have capacitive button ( which make the android signature imo), simple = the parts will be cheap on ebay, and we dont pay for stupid random gadget.
NO! REMOVING 3.5mm jack is NOT innovation.
Why spend $$$ to get a fcking edge screen that will cost 500$ to replace ?
IP67 , when 95% of people wont get close to water with their phone, and 99% of them never drop their phone in water anyway.
op5 is innovative in a way that they give you high spec with minimal parts. Imho, this make a durable phone (5-6 years easy), and as we can notice, the earth need a break of overconsuming rightnow.
Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
There is tons more development available for this device compared to the XL, and for a company that is so young, they are doing an amazing job.
Yeah, the camera didn't live up to the hype, but it's not a horrible camera by any means.
I am getting the same user experience as my Pixel XL, and even better than the XL in some areas as well - all for significantly less than what I paid for the XL.
That being said, I definitely don't think it's reasonable to say there is no innovation, despite the 5 looking similar to an iPhone. The iPhone's design isn't bad at all in my opinion, so that carries over to the 5.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
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Just people having their say. Sometimes the worst questions or ideas for a thread become extremely popular.
Otherwise why are people posting here
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Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
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Honestly can't see the pixel 2 having anything ground breaking that would make me want to move over.
The camera will be great but OS and performance, stamina and build will be very similar.
Tbh I can see the 1+5 beating it in terms of speed.
Guess we'll see.
Plus if the pixel goes for a 2k screen then you'll see how much of a benefit a 1080p screen gives you in regards to performance and battery longevity.
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Hmmmmmm - I vote that that you would be better off trading in op5 and get this
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i always viewed oneplus devices as extremely minimal. I know, you know and oneplus knows that if you want an innovative UI you can download it from the play store. Think of the thing as a modular phone on the software side. I like the thing because it works really well and charges nice and fast doesnt slow down and remembers every app right where i was unless the app itself has a background refresh built in. Its a good phone and should be treated as such.
sure, it's innovative! you get to choose between Wifi AND cellular data. the screen protectors lay perfectly flat on the screen, which is also flat. this phone is small! it fits perfectly in all kinds of pockets. the screen lights up in the dark so you can see it at night. you can install multiple applications without removing the old ones. on top of all that - wireless discharging!
seriously, you are living in the era of the Jetsons (assuming you're old enough to remember that show). splitting hairs about a company's R&D standards is so moot when you have a super [email protected]$$ computer in your pocket. just don't buy it! or return it! move along!