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So I just got my Nexus One a couple of days ago. In most ways it's a great device. The screen is amazing and multitasking with IM and apps like Pandora and Rhapsody is a nice change.
However...none of this is all that great if it doesn't work very well as a phone! I live in Brooklyn, in an area marked on the T-mobile map as "Best 3g coverage". I've found that I get almost full signal with T-Mobile 3g if it's sitting on my desk in it's dock (and speed test at about 2mbit). As soon as I hold the phone in my hand (especially if my hand is on the bottom of the phone), the signal drops away by at least two bars, if not completely - dropping the data connection back to edge. If I walk about 15 feet away from the window and into my apartment, I often lose connection altogether.
If I put my T-mobile sim into my unlocked iPhone I get a steady 2-3 bars with EDGE throughout the entire apartment.
HTC are sending me a replacement Nexus and it should get here today or tomorrow.
My question is, should I expect an improvement with the new unit? How many of you are experiencing problems with the device in terms of 3g and general signal stability? Do you notice significant signal drop offs when holding the phone as opposed to having it docked or on a desk?
It's definitely a bit of a dealbreaker for me, and the problem seems way too widespread to just be a problem with my unit. Just wondering what the general experience is here?
Thanks.
By cupping my hands around the phone I can consistently lose one bar and regain it by letting go. This is while it's sitting flat on the table or by standing it up and holding it at the top with one finger.
You arent the only one having this issue, i am as well as many others.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/...t-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/1#c25420883
gkaugustine said:
You arent the only one having this issue, i am as well as many others.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/...t-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/1#c25420883
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yep. same **** happens to me when i hold my phone normally at the bottom.
Yup, even after the recent OTA update, it's been noted (on engadget as well) about how cupping the unit drops the signal strength.
There's hope this is a software patch fix, but it's looking like a hardware limitation.
Also voice your concerns here...
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=0c0fb2a46ad64955&hl=en
The more complaints they get, the more public it gets...the better chance we have of getting the issue fixed.
It's also has been noted over at tmonews...more exposure the better!
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/nexus-one-3g-woes-part-315/
I have the same problem with my phone. It'll have 2-3 bars 3G while the phone is on my desk but drop to Edge whenever I use it to make a phone call or browse the internet. I called HTC about it and they're sending me a new phone, I'm hoping it was just a bad batch because not everone is experience this problem.
3G/UMTS/HSDPA flip to EDGE
In an area with maximum T-Mobile 3G coverage (as indicated by their map), I get:
* phone on the desk: 4 bars, HSDPA, -79..-81dBm 16..17 asu
* cradling the bottom of the phone: 3 bars, HSDPA, -97..-93 dBm, 8..10 asu
* cradling the top of the phone: 4 bars, HSDPA, -71dBm 21 asu
The phone is running CyanogenMod 5.0.2, which includes Google's OTA update that purportedly fixed the 3G issue.
It could be an issue with the antenna placement. A similar thing happens on my old GPRS 1G Nokia phone (that I have to use currently, my MT3g was stolen, bleh): when I hold it from the top, it drops from a full 7/7 bars to 1/7 bars, and when I hold it from the bottom, it jumps to 7/7 bars again. My guess is that the Nexus One has the antenna on the bottom, which is where it is most commonly held, so it loses 3G signal easily, leading more people to notice a problem.
mastermind777 said:
My guess is that the Nexus One has the antenna on the bottom, which is where it is most commonly held, so it loses 3G signal easily, leading more people to notice a problem.
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The Nexus antenna is on the bottom and has been noted as an issue on some other threads.
Doctor. my arm hurts when i do this.....^^^^^<<<<>>>>>
then dont
I hope iphone 4 complainers don't see this thread
iPhone 4 is getting a lot of flack for exactly the same issue right now. the exact same thing with the N1 just isn't reported.
ablation said:
iPhone 4 is getting a lot of flack for exactly the same issue right now. the exact same thing with the N1 just isn't reported.
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Don't worry since this is an old thread from last February!
ablation said:
iPhone 4 is getting a lot of flack for exactly the same issue right now. the exact same thing with the N1 just isn't reported.
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This issue was all over the media, when it was news that is.
I am getting the same issue on the Nexus One which I bought yesterday brand new on eBay.. and I switched away from my iPhone 4 (which I still have, just inside the box) because of this.
I just spread my pinky and ring finger apart to expose the Bottom part of the phone right where the word HTC is located. Leaving this part slightly exposed clears up the issue no problem and reduces the signal attenuation caused by the hand.
Hi,
I have my sgs about 2 months and I'm very happy with it. The only problem I have is, that sometimes there are strange displayinterferences.
It looks like there are moving waves from top to down.
Does anybody have this troubles too and has a solution for it?
Or is it an hardware error? The problem is that the error isn't reproducable.
Maybe somebody can help me, please!
Thanks in advance
spyro
I think I have also noticed that once or twice. I believe it can be seen when you have the android drop down menu (notifications etc) open and you start or stop WiFi. It must be some kind of interferance with wifi hardware. Normal wifi operation does not cause it, only the startup of the WiFI which lasts one second or so.
Yeah, i think this could be true. I also see it often, when I open die Notification bar. But I also have the same interferences, when I am working in apps. Maybe also the 3G connection could be the reason? Does anybody else have this problem.
Is this a problem, which I have to life with or could this be an error of the hardware(warranty)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753402
I have the same problem. Never on wifi tho.
Which firmware are you using?
Hi,
my firmware is I9000AUJF1(A1 branded from Austria). I don't know if the problem in your posted thread is the same. The interferences I mean only exist one or two seconds. There are horizontal dark lines which moves from top to the bottom. After some time everything is OK again. It looks like anything interfers the display(wifi, 3g?).
The problem of warranty is, that I'm not able to show the problem, because it's not reproducable.
Screen flickering under WiFi data transfer
I noticed this problem a couple of days ago.
Whenever there is some data transfer going on over WiFi, wherever I am browsing or some service syncs up the screen starts flickering and I have what I can describe as faint scan lines crossing the screen vertically like there is some sort of interference.
These are mostly noticeable on white and light grey backgrounds.
I have gone trough 2 firmware updates currently being on stock JPK rooted.
I have searched around on google and found on some forum one guy that was saying the cause is an interference between the WiFi module and the screen refresh rate.
Has anybody encountered this problem or these symptoms ?
Is there somebody around more knowledgeable in this issues that can confirm that this is a hardware problem ?
wow! , you might have a defective phone then.
I use WiFi very often, Wireless N at aprox 87 Mbps
that should be high enough to reproduce the problem you experienced, if i had a faulty screen
the description of the scan line reminds me of interference when you are in close proximity with another LCD or CRT screen causing the distortion field
OMG, I get this too. Usually happens on boot or when I'm browsing a data heavy website or using Android market. Are our phone defective? Does anyone else have this problem? I wonder how common it is.
does the scan line comes from bottom up
or goes from top to bottom?
very slowly or fast?
if you are pluged in and charging, also are you in a 120v or 240v?
AllGamer said:
does the scan line comes from bottom up
or goes from top to bottom?
very slowly or fast?
if you are pluged in and charging, also are you in a 120v or 240v?
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They tend to be random and I'm on battery power atm. Also they're quite fast but don't last very long. They'll start then stop then start etc ..
Hi,
just for your information. I've sent my phone to samsung on friday. Maybe they find the error. I report, if there are new information.
Yep i have the same problem. Can t find the source though....
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The lines appear from top and travel the screen fast.
Imagine a TV who for a second has problem with reception.
I am on 240 V.
Also the issue is much more noticeable when not plugged in.
If I have the phone plugged in its barely noticeable.
I will try to call the service and ask about this issue. I have a strong feeling that this is a hardware issue. But Besides the screen being defective I also think about the battery. Maybe when in high load (WiFi) it's voltage varies and affects the screen.
It seems if I uncheck Power saving mode in Settings>Display and also uncheck Automatic brightness things improve a bit.
segun_aduba said:
The lines appear from top and travel the screen fast.
Imagine a TV who for a second has problem with reception.
I am on 240 V.
Also the issue is much more noticeable when not plugged in.
If I have the phone plugged in its barely noticeable.
I will try to call the service and ask about this issue. I have a strong feeling that this is a hardware issue. But Besides the screen being defective I also think about the battery. Maybe when in high load (WiFi) it's voltage varies and affects the screen.
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Another issue to worry about .. God starting to think about selling this phone and getting something else. Stuck in a 2 year contract though
some one already reported this on another topic
it does seems that some version of the phone are prone to WiFi interferance
we still haven't found out what causes it exactly
for example i can not replicate the issue on my phone when using WiFi
found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793944
Cant reproduce it.
Not that I'm unhappy with it...
If this is a hardware issue Samsung should replace my phone. I am waiting though a little bit before calling the service to make sure that it is a hardware problem.
If I find that it can easily be fixed with a software fix, it's not worth the hassle of trying to replace it.
can anyone in North America confirm this issue?
i got a huntch it might be an Europe only issue related to the high voltage of the electric interferance nearby, like lights, tv, radio, wifi, etc.
Hi Guys
Has anybody noticed the signal-strength reduction when you pick up the HD7?
I admit that I live in a poor reception area, but I can have 4-bars on my phone and that will reduce to zero within a few seconds when I pick up the HD7.
Just wondered if this was a common issue
Regards
CD (UK)
As far as I know, the antenna is at the bottom of the device (appears to be) and so putting your hand around the antenna should cause it to lose signal.
Try holding it a little higher up and see if you have the same results (maybe halfway up the device with 2 fingers? ).
The problem with the iPhone was that it was one little spot that, if you touched it, it would short circuit the antenna and render it useless.
What you're describing is more an issue with all radio devices (wifi, gsm, etc.).
See what you can find
Me and my best friend bought the Active 3 weeks ago and I'm noticing while I'm viewing with a white background a visible black box inside the screen when I'm outside in the sunlight.
I just looked at his today and I see the same thing. Does anyone else see this?
I've read reports of this before. I think it's just the structure of the screen. Since you can't see it unless you actively look for it, I wouldn't worry about it. AoN
I saw this listing on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gea...ttery-and-Wireless-Charger-Mod-/291811471587?
But there is no mention of which version of Gear VR this will work on. I have the Innovator's Edition released for the Note 4. Would this cover fit? Do all Gear VR versions use the same dimensions for the cover?
Also, has anyone used this particular cover? Are the claims of letting you experience VR 3 times longer anywhere close to reality? Currently, my biggest problem is that I cannot go beyond 20-25 minutes before the "your phone needs to cool down" message starts popping up.
I know that both versions, yours and the commercial one that I have, look different. I am unsure if it would be the same or not. If you have a 3D printer maybe you can print one out yourself though, seeing as how that's all the one you linked is. I have one myself and wouldn't mind printing one for you for free but I do not have the dimensions for the type you have.
But I can say that I, too, was having the same issue as you were until I took a few steps to reduce the heat created.
From the settings in the Gear VR I turned off wifi, disabled notifications, and turned the screen brightness down to 30%. I noticed that it improved how long I could play from about 30 minutes to about an hour and a half. I recently turned on wifi scanning and now it's back down to about 30 minutes of gameplay so I'm disabling that feature again to see if it was wifi this whole time causing it to heat up so quick, but I'm sure that is the root cause because it's the only variable that has changed.