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[Q] Can I assign a different camera app to the physical camera button?

As the title states, I'm wondering if I can assign the Google camera app to the physical camera button on my Xperia Z3C.
I find the stock camera app is very poor at keeping focus and takes sub-par images when compared to other camera apps available on Google Play.
Also, anyone have any tips for taking better pictures with the Z3C? I'm finding that despite the camera's high number of pixels, it's not the best for taking pictures, even when compared to my old iPhone 4!
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

AS far as I know, it is possible only when you are rooted. Since rooting (with unlocking bootloader) affects the camera quality, which you want to change, i'd go for it.
I am using Camera FV-5 for taking pictures and that is much better than the auto/manual mode on the stock camera and Lapse-it Pro for Timelapse videos.
Anyway, the biggest improvement should be seen, when Android 5.0+ is released with RAW DNG (and Long Exposure), and then we will see the advantage of a 20MP sensor - but probably only with a different camera app than the stock one

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conzar2 said:
As the title states, I'm wondering if I can assign the Google camera app to the physical camera button on my Xperia Z3C.
I find the stock camera app is very poor at keeping focus and takes sub-par images when compared to other camera apps available on Google Play.
Also, anyone have any tips for taking better pictures with the Z3C? I'm finding that despite the camera's high number of pixels, it's not the best for taking pictures, even when compared to my old iPhone 4!
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Test ur Camera with this app
CameraW
this app will capture the exact view that ur phone lens can detect (without any effect or compressions)
if u get better pic by this app then thr s problem in software if not you check the lens itself
try it and inform me about results
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Everything you'll ever need to know about the camera of the Note4

Guys,
I've started a multi-part article series discussing how the Note4's camera should be used (and how it compares to other high-end phones, cameraphones or even standalone cameras).
The first two parts in the series have already been published:
Part I: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3781966
Part II: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3782300
This series will be of particular interest to Snapdragon 805 users. Exynos users, at the moment, will find the series less interesting, as third-party apps, currently, can't access the (almost) non-processed image stream and they, consequently, can't export non-overprocessed images.
EDIT (2015/01/17): Part III is published on HDR: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3782850
EDIT (2015/01/24): a brand new writeup is here at XDA; you should start with it instead of the previous ones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/shooting-light-best-image-quality-note-4-t3012008

Great. Thank you
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So which app we must use for normal photos ?

How to manually change shutter speed to 1/8s in Snap Camera HDR app? Thx

masterchif92 said:
So which app we must use for normal photos ?
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Basically, if you have an Exynos device, the stock Camera app unless
- you're absolutely sure you don't need shutter speeds under 1/30s (the restriction of many apps, incl. FV-5) and
- you do need the on-screen controls of that app.
Otherwise, the image quality will be the same so there's no advantage in using any third-party app for shooting, as opposed to the Snapdragon case.
If you have a Snapdragon device, you can get far-far better image quality out of your camera in both still and video shooting mode because of the lack of noise reduction and oversharpening. Then, using third-party apps like Snap camera HDR is preferable, assuming, of course, you don't need features like dual camera.

Menneisyys said:
Basically, if you have an Exynos device, the stock Camera app unless
- you're absolutely sure you don't need shutter speeds under 1/30s (the restriction of many apps, incl. FV-5) and
- you do need the on-screen controls of that app.
Otherwise, the image quality will be the same so there's no advantage in using any third-party app for shooting, as opposed to the Snapdragon case.
If you have a Snapdragon device, you can get far-far better image quality out of your camera in both still and video shooting mode because of the lack of noise reduction and oversharpening. Then, using third-party apps like Snap camera HDR is preferable, assuming, of course, you don't need features like dual camera.
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I have the s805 model....there are some settings with this camera to set? Or it will be good with the stock one ?

cornelito said:
How to manually change shutter speed to 1/8s in Snap Camera HDR app? Thx
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You can't - the pre-Lollipop API doesn't let for directly setting the shutter speed. The device will automatically use 1/8s when there's little light.
You'll need to make sure you do enable the Photo > “Samsung Camera Mode” checkbox; otherwise, it will NOT be able to go under 1/15s, resulting in a complete loss of no less than 1EV. At least on Snapdragons; I couldn't test this on Exynos devices.

masterchif92 said:
I have the s805 model....there are some settings with this camera to set? Or it will be good with the stock one ?
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Then, if you really want to see in which cases third-party apps can produce significantly better images, you really want to compare my example shots of the stock app to those of, say, Snap camera HDR - see the crops in my article.
Basically, the stock Camera app applies far too much noise reduction and oversharpening, pretty much ruining fine detail and introducing ugly oversharpening halos. Photos produced by third-party apps, incl. Snap camera HDR, are far more natural.

Just writing my HDR article. The first two parts of the new article is already published: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3782850

Very nice articles. Thanks for doing them.

Is there any way to get rid of the cruddy yellowish look I get on low light photos on my phone? My wife's phone doesn't have this at all, and both of the Note 4s that I have had do. I've been very unimpressed with the low light abilities of this phone, so far. I'd love a solution that doesn't involve sending the phone in to maybe be fixed.

usmaak said:
Is there any way to get rid of the cruddy yellowish look I get on low light photos on my phone? My wife's phone doesn't have this at all, and both of the Note 4s that I have had do. I've been very unimpressed with the low light abilities of this phone, so far. I'd love a solution that doesn't involve sending the phone in to maybe be fixed.
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Have you tried setting "White balance" to "Incandescent" in Settings?

Muyfa666 said:
Very nice articles. Thanks for doing them.
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Thanks! Today, I've continued working on the HDR article.

Thanks for your work. I don't know if I understand correctly but the play store version is 6.2.0. Can this version take pictures under 1/15s? Or we still need a test version for this?
Thanks

zabumba said:
Thanks for your work. I don't know if I understand correctly but the play store version is 6.2.0. Can this version take pictures under 1/15s? Or we still need a test version for this?
Thanks
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Yup, 6.2.0 has just been released. I've tested it; it works flawlessly, at least on Snapdragon:
1/8s is supported
almost-RAW output is supported

Hi there. It's a nice report! However i do have some input
1. The stock camera does do 1/4s in rare occasions , happens for me when I do shots in not-well lit conditions and yet insufficient for camera to engage in night mode.
2. I have no idea if its just me, but night mode does not downsize my photos to 6mpix no matter how dark the scene is. It still stays at 5312x2998. N910G here. Details of photos on poorly lit scenes do not have significantly worse detail for me as compared to well lit ones and file size is in fact larger by a bit. (the room is still not too dark though).
IMO the stock camera does some sort of multi frame noise averaging technique (similar to canon's and sony's "Hand-held Twilight") to reduce noice.

andalism said:
Hi there. It's a nice report! However i do have some input
1. The stock camera does do 1/4s in rare occasions , happens for me when I do shots in not-well lit conditions and yet insufficient for camera to engage in night mode.
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Wow! Haven't ever seen such an image from my European Snap 805 (F) model. Could you post the original to, say, flickr, or, here as an attachment? (Of course, feel free to remove the location info first from the EXIF data.)
IMO the stock camera does some sort of multi frame noise averaging technique (similar to canon's and sony's "Hand-held Twilight") to reduce noice.
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It'd, then, exhibit a much higher probability of camera shake / stitching errors. The relative noiseless-ness is because of the very-very strong noise reduction. (Or, maybe, because of the "G" model you have is somewhat different from the European one? I wouldn't think so - after all, both are Snapdragon-based.)

Menneisyys said:
Have you tried setting "White balance" to "Incandescent" in Settings?
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I've tried all of the settings in the phone. Nothing makes the problem go away. Using the same settings as my wife's phone, and there's a huge difference in the quality of indoor pictures between the three phones.
It does take quite nice outdoor pictures.

usmaak said:
I've tried all of the settings in the phone. Nothing makes the problem go away. Using the same settings as my wife's phone, and there's a huge difference in the quality of indoor pictures between the three phones.
It does take quite nice outdoor pictures.
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Could you take low-light images with an LCD computer screen displaying white
- without(!) using f.lux or other tools to decrease the white balance (this is equal to about 7000K) and
- at both a very low brightness level (to "kick in" night mode) and a high one (to avoid night mode)
with both phones? Preferably in "auto" and "incandescent" WB modes on both phones.

Menneisyys said:
Wow! Haven't ever seen such an image from my European Snap 805 (F) model. Could you post the original to, say, flickr, or, here as an attachment? (Of course, feel free to remove the location info first from the EXIF data.)
It'd, then, exhibit a much higher probability of camera shake / stitching errors. The relative noiseless-ness is because of the very-very strong noise reduction. (Or, maybe, because of the "G" model you have is somewhat different from the European one? I wouldn't think so - after all, both are Snapdragon-based.)
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Unfortunately, I deleted those photos as it was blurry due to the unexpectedly low shutter speeds or that the picture sucked. I will post if I can reproduce that setting again.
As for the noise averaging mode...
1. It will not cause camera shake/stitching errors even if you hold still. Why? If you were to shake your phone violently, the software is smart enough to abandon image stacking altogether & the final image produced is the result of just 1 picture that has a little fine bit of extra noise reduction maybe.
2.Samsung's night mode is not well documented, unfortunately, despite them having this mode since Galaxy SIII.
However, the answer lies hidden in one of their support page for galaxy S4
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000003/10094/120418/SGH-I337ZBMATT
"Night: Take photos by combining them to get a brighter, clearer photo in low light, without flash."
Now, you may think that perhaps this mode only applies to the S4's night mode, so I did a mini test.
(click on photos to zoom in)
(1)
Image taken with night mode
(2)
Image taken WITHOUT night mode under same conditions (This is done by tricking the camera to first take a photo in bright light,continue holding down the shutter button to engage burst shot, quickly direct phone to subject and wait for phone to adjust to the right exposure)
(3)
Same image from (2), but edited in Lightroom by dragging the luminance noise slider to like 40.(there is little or no chroma noise, so I did not touch that slider)
As you can see, despite their photos taken under the same conditions, (1) is the best as it as less noisy compared to (2) and sharper than (3).If Samsung really did engage in strong noise reduction at night mode, much fine detail would be lost and the photo will look like an oil painting when you pixel-peep. Thus , night mode photos you take will look more like (3) than (1), when (1) is the actual night mode photo in reality.
3. Another good guess that Night mode is actually a multi frame mode is that, all night mode's photos have their EXIF data eroded.
(Fun fact, dpreview says iphone 6+ does this too)
"the built-in, stock Camera app may have too strong noise reduction and oversharpening"
IMO, Im sorry but I disagree, too strong noise reduction would mean that photos from the note 4 would be too smooth and would lack any fine detail at all, which from my observations isnt true. Samsung excels in that area. Also, oversharpening is also not the case, oversharpened photos often result in false detail and look contrasty/frosty which is again, not the case to me.
EDIT: oversharpening and noise reduction could be a matter of taste so it could be true for some

Camera2 API on Moto G5S Plus

Has anyone tried enabling the Camera2 API on this device? Just found out that g5s plus doesn't have camera2 api, which pretty much sucks since this phone is able to use manual mode. I haven't tried it yet because my device isn't rooted and I don't have stock firmware (XT1805). For those who want to try, just make sure you are rooted and have a build.prop editor then add this line persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1. Give your feedback if it works.

Mine came with full Camera2 support out of the box. XT1806, US model.

sensi277 said:
Mine came with full Camera2 support out of the box. XT1806, US model.
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Same, 4gb/64GB XT1806 had this working out the box.

SynisterWolf said:
Same, 4gb/64GB XT1806 had this working out the box.
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Really? May I see your build.prop?

I didn't had it but using custom ROM with beans gapps makes Google camera works partially on XT 1804 it didn't had API2 by default on stock ROM duh it sux that XT1806 got API2 enabled by default and other models doesn't

Mîkòtø said:
I didn't had it but using custom ROM with beans gapps makes Google camera works partially on XT 1804 it didn't had API2 by default on stock ROM duh it sux that XT1806 got API2 enabled by default and other models doesn't
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Kinda unfair of what Moto did.
When I took a test from Camera2 Probe app, it returned this result. I don't know if this means that my phone has Camera2 enabled, all I know is it's supposed to be "Full" instead of "Level 3"

~cyandrew said:
Kinda unfair of what Moto did.
When I took a test from Camera2 Probe app, it returned this result. I don't know if this means that my phone has Camera2 enabled, all I know is it's supposed to be "Full" instead of "Level 3"
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No level 3 means the best it gives full and plus access to Camera 2 API but the problem is you can't find single application that supports this level of access through system library SD 625 got hexagon 500 too so basically if someone spend enough time on Google camera than he/she might be able to successfully port fully supported Google camera with slow mo upto 120 fps , RAW support and HDR+ too not sure about ZSL
And I saw all Moto g5s plus models supports camera2 but it's not enabled for some models while some have it enabled outta box

Mîkòtø said:
No level 3 means the best it gives full and plus access to Camera 2 API but the problem is you can't find single application that supports this level of access through system library SD 625 got hexagon 500 too so basically if someone spend enough time on Google camera than he/she might be able to successfully port fully supported Google camera with slow mo upto 120 fps , RAW support and HDR+ too not sure about ZSL
And I saw all Moto g5s plus models supports camera2 but it's not enabled for some models while some have it enabled outta box
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Wow, I have so much to learn. So that means that our only hope in taking better pictures is for moto to optimize the camera software? It's been a while since the last update of Camera Tuner, Moto Camera 2 was recently updated though.

~cyandrew said:
Wow, I have so much to learn. So that means that our only hope in taking better pictures is for moto to optimize the camera software? It's been a while since the last update of Camera Tuner, Moto Camera 2 was recently updated though.
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https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=207256
Well I found this today it got few mods of Google camera which works on arm 32Bit too try the camera which says arm-arm64 only those will work with Moto g5s+
> I tried normal one high quality jpeg and raw one and, (All can be considered as beta apps cause they force close at some point)
> I can say high quality jpeg is good high noise reduction and decent pics close to natural colors in pics somewhat and,
> RAW is good too if u don't mind RGB color on blue side no natural colors in pics as it's more on blue side it's also lil more saturated in colors, noise reduction is mid lvl on HDR+RAW+JPEG (u have to enable this option in setting Menu of camera) and noise reduction is high on turning off HDR+ but it's still decent when u take nature's pic out side in daylight
> normal one sux it got so much noise in pics no clear pics in short makes it feels like we r using some cheap camera

Mîkòtø said:
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=207256
Well I found this today it got few mods of Google camera which works on arm 32Bit too try the camera which says arm-arm64 only those will work with Moto g5s+
> I tried normal one high quality jpeg and raw one and, (All can be considered as beta apps cause they force close at some point)
> I can say high quality jpeg is good high noise reduction and decent pics close to natural colors in pics somewhat and,
> RAW is good too if u don't mind RGB color on blue side no natural colors in pics as it's more on blue side it's also lil more saturated in colors, noise reduction is mid lvl on HDR+RAW+JPEG (u have to enable this option in setting Menu of camera) and noise reduction is high on turning off HDR+ but it's still decent when u take nature's pic out side in daylight
> normal one sux it got so much noise in pics no clear pics in short makes it feels like we r using some cheap camera
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Thanks a lot!

Plz check my thread on collection of Modded Google Camera working on Moto G5s+
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ection-modded-google-camera-arm32-64-t3700954

~cyandrew said:
Kinda unfair of what Moto did.
When I took a test from Camera2 Probe app, it returned this result. I don't know if this means that my phone has Camera2 enabled, all I know is it's supposed to be "Full" instead of "Level 3"
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Thanks for posting that screen grab of Camera2 Probe app! I was going to open a thread asking about the Camera2 API support level of the G5S Plus when I came across this. I'm interested in pro video recording apps and an app like "Filmic Pro" needs the device to have either "Full" or "Level 3" support, otherwise you can't even install the app. From what I learned about the G5 Plus it only had "Legacy" support level (the worst) which was very unfortunate but judging from your screen shot of the G5S Plus, Motorola/Lenovo finally upped their game!

I think if in this level 3 is possible to increase more lens aperture.
Currently our G5S Plus have 3,2 secs, no more.
In G5 Plus, other dev put 30 secs with magisk module, take wonderful night pics.

Front Camera Video P20 Overexposed / Soft

Hi
Will Huawei fix the overexposed soft image quality of the selfie camera on this phone.
I am still on 8.1.0.103 and wondering if its been fixed in one of the newer updates as it is really disappointing

Not sure they think it's broken, it was obviously designed to do this on purpose. I know a lot of people that use beauty mode. It is rather annoying though as it can't be disabled for those that don't want to be enhanced to Ken doll like proportions lol
If you hit the photo mode rather than the default portrait mode for front camera it does help a bit. Definitely better than portrait mode. I do hope that a future update will add more control over the processing, but I won't bank on it.

I've tried many different camera apps, and the overexposure and softening occur as soon as the camera detects a face. Haven't been able to find a solution yet.

prowsterz said:
I've tried many different camera apps, and the overexposure and softening occur as soon as the camera detects a face. Haven't been able to find a solution yet.
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im 99% sure it can be disabled with root - its got to be a setting that detects faces.
we;d need someone to go through the source (if they ever release it)
once i root my p20 ill stalk around to try and find a property.

Sorry, i dont have phone yet. But, if you use some other camera application, will it be the same problem?

Its definitely a setting built into the kernel/source code because using another camera app will not override the setting. It only focuses on the subject (face) and blurs out the background which should not be the case

I have rooted P20 pro, and there is a ton of properties and definitions xml files for different modes and effects in odm/camera folder. For example there is something called "casiobeauty" among others But, to mess with those parameters someone has to have knowledge. So, i guess effects can be modified, if there ever will be someone of knowledge and will to do it

You all may want to install CameraMX from PlayStore.
It gives out high resolution and high qualoty images. Selfies taken by it are noticeably sharper than the p20 pro stock camera. Also, there is a slider to adjust exposure for the front cam (something that is missing from the stock). In addition, the app also supports HDR for the selfie cam as well.
You can give it a try...

mulkman said:
Hi
Will Huawei fix the overexposed soft image quality of the selfie camera on this phone.
I am still on 8.1.0.103 and wondering if its been fixed in one of the newer updates as it is really disappointing
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it was fixed in .120

Kusznier said:
it was fixed in .120
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What region? I am currently using the .120 for C636 but there is still the annoying overexposure and lack of details esp in groufies

You all might want to use the CameraMX app... I use it on all my selfies now. Ive compared it with the stock front cam and it's way way way better. See for yourself...

Archer Casio said:
You all might want to use the CameraMX app... I use it on all my selfies now. Ive compared it with the stock front cam and it's way way way better. See for yourself...
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very cheap quality sorry bro!
I hope overexpo fixed in next update!

Kusznier said:
it was fixed in .120
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It's better in 120 but definitely not fixed.

kabirjedi said:
very cheap quality sorry bro!
I hope overexpo fixed in next update!
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Uploaded the wrong photos the last time sorry..
For the photos below, the washed out one is taken with the front camera native app. The better one is with cameraMX app.
Note: No editing done, same lighting condition, almost the same hand position, same angle.
It is very evident that the native camera app is washed out/overexposed.
Well, the CameraMX photo isnt perfect but for me, it is 80% better than the stock camera.

Archer Casio said:
Uploaded the wrong photos the last time sorry..
For the photos below, the washed out one is taken with the front camera native app. The better one is with cameraMX app.
Note: No editing done, same lighting condition, almost the same hand position, same angle.
It is very evident that the native camera app is washed out/overexposed.
Well, the CameraMX photo isnt perfect but for me, it is 80% better than the stock camera.
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Hi - Is everyone certain this is a SW issue? I don't know a ton about cameras but is it possible there are defective front facing cameras on a bunch of these devices?

Hobartwash said:
Hi - Is everyone certain this is a SW issue? I don't know a ton about cameras but is it possible there are defective front facing cameras on a bunch of these devices?
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Hi, I'm pretty much sure it's a software issue as the original photo can look so much better when you edit it. And, you can also use other camera apps

There is a workaround on the overexposed p20 front camera images using the Google Photos Editor App
(I've read it from another XDA thread).
The results are stunning! It's almost as if the photos were taken using an actual Google Pixel front camera! (In my opinion)
I suppose the image enhancement algorithm for the Google Photos app is similar to the image post-processing of Google Pixel phones.
Note: Google Photos is commonly preinstalled along with Gmail, Hangouts, GMaps.
Step 1 - Snap a selfie using the native app
Step 2 - Preview the photo and click the (...) at the bottom right
Step 3 - Click Advanced Edit ---> Select Google Photos
Step 4 - Select the second icon next to the filters menu.
You will find 3 sliders (Light, Color, and Pop)
Step 5 - Slide Pop all the way up, as well as Color.
You may tweak the settings more for Color and Light too!
(There are more options when you expand it)
Step 6 - Click Save.
Find sample photos below:

Just got a P20 Pro and this is seriously my biggest hate with this phone! The rest is great (except my google pay not working) but the front camera makes me look like a ghost on any image!

I'm on update 128 and the front camera still overexposed.

srgank said:
I'm on update 128 and the front camera still overexposed.
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Yes, I second that.

camera app version

what camera version is users on pie have, my camera shows version 86.9.1130.21 but the interesting thing is when I hold the app icon and go into app options then app info advanced then scroll down to store and tap on it it shows device not compatible with this version, but even more strange is if I go to google play on my pc to look at camera apps it tells me I have version
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Don't bother with the stock camera app, it's rubbish. Install a modded Pixel camera app, much better for photos and videos, though some modes like slow motion sometimes bug out.

Pabliell said:
Don't bother with the stock camera app, it's rubbish.
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It certainly isn't crap. Just have a look to my manual of the stock camera (with examples).
View my profile for link to website.

actiyo said:
It certainly isn't crap. Just have a look to my manual of the stock camera (with examples).
View my profile for link to website.
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Saw your website and sorry, low light photos are rubbish. In good light even a low range phone can take good photos these days.
Nokia 8 is a flagship, with decent camera, unfortunately ruined by bad software. We even got a second camera to enhance low light performance, but it's still crap compared to better software using single sensor.
Just go ahead and get a GCam with working Night Sight mode, you'll see what I'm talking about with your own eyes.

The original camera of the Nokia 8 was praised (for photos taken in ideal light circumstances) and criticised (for photos taken in low light circumstances). That's why a completely new camera app was released on May 31st 2018, which got a major update in early September 2018. This camera app added an amount of Pro possibilties and - more important for everyday users - a much improved HDR to take better pictures in low light conditions.
The official manual for the camera, however, is not only very basic but only covers the original camera app. On the net there are almost no sites that reviewed this new (Pro) camera app or gave tips and tricks except for one by nokiapoweruser dot com.
I have tried to write my own manual (for taking photographs) based on numerous tips and tricks found in different forums. The manual is written in English - A Google Translate widget can be used on the site.
I hope this guide may be of some use to some of you. If anyone wants to share other tips, feel free to write them down here. Please don't start bashing the stock camera and praising gcam - I have a gcam-app myself, one of the newest, 6.1.021.220943556. A link to a similar manual as mine for gcam would be appreciated, though.
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On my website (click on my user name to see the link) four pictures taken at night, three pictures inside a museum, one inside a railway station and two inside an indoor market hall.