I have a query, currently motorola works with 32 bits in android. When android 8 release will still be 32-bit or will they go 64-bit?
Thanks for your clarification :good:
benjaconb said:
I have a query, currently motorola works with 32 bits in android. When android 8 release will still be 32-bit or will they go 64-bit?
Thanks for your clarification :good:
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No-one knows except moto - ask them.
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No-one knows except moto - ask them.
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Yes we know. Motorola won't update from 32 bits because it needs file wipes.. and people will get mad if their phone gets wiped for a update they won't notice (for the majority of users)
Still it's 64bit ready. Custom roms are based on 64bit architecture. And i think i read somewhere that official oreo wil lbe 64bit. M1810, how do you know that it won't?
It is 64
I have an old Samsung s4 Mini running resurrection remix Android 8.1. I formatted my SD card to NTFS with a 64bit cluster size. The phone reads it fine.
@Mikeyd125, an oopsie. I do believe you posted in the wrong thread.
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osemoka said:
Still it's 64bit ready. Custom roms are based on 64bit architecture. And i think i read somewhere that official oreo wil lbe 64bit. M1810, how do you know that it won't?
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Switching architectures requires the device to be wiped so officially it wouldn't make much sense if Motorola doesn't want consumers to have issues
Yea Yea. Heard that already. Why wipe is so scarry to people? They can't make simple backup? ;D
osemoka said:
Yea Yea. Heard that already. Why wipe is so scarry to people? They can't make simple backup? ;D
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Average Joe would be angry if his phone would be wiped from all data even if he backed up.
Most people doesnt care about OS version as long as it does what it has to do.
Well. At least they should give us a choice 32bit and no wipe oe 64bit and wipe.
Will there be real difference in our case (g5s+ users) in performance between these two versions? I will have a problem with choosing custom rom based on original 32b or 64b(which can't be based on future stock ?) in the future.
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Well. At least they should give us a choice 32bit and no wipe oe 64bit and wipe.
Will there be real difference in our case (g5s+ users) in performance between these two versions? I will have a problem with choosing custom rom based on original 32b or 64b(which can't be based on future stock ?) in the future.
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gcam and few another apps
performace no changes
osemoka said:
Well. At least they should give us a choice 32bit and no wipe oe 64bit and wipe.
Will there be real difference in our case (g5s+ users) in performance between these two versions? I will have a problem with choosing custom rom based on original 32b or 64b(which can't be based on future stock ?) in the future.
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And we would have to wait twice as long for developers to make both 32 and 64bit for few people to chose 64 bits. Genius.
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Hi,
I just rooted my 64-bit Desire 510 and I don't know what ROM I can put on there that is a good daily driver. All of the ones I've looked at seem incomplete or barely functional.
Just as long as it's stock Android and a relatively newer version then I'd be happy with that.
Keep in mind that I've never done this before so please correct me if I say anything wrong.
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Hi,
I just rooted my 64-bit Desire 510 and I don't know what ROM I can put on there that is a good daily driver. All of the ones I've looked at seem incomplete or barely functional.
Just as long as it's stock Android and a relatively newer version then I'd be happy with that.
Keep in mind that I've never done this before so please correct me if I say anything wrong.
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You need to make sure you don't go try to install ANY 32 bit rom on your device since it's 64 bit and I personally don't know of any roms that are 64 bit that were built for your phone. The ones listed around here are just stock roms to fix it if you break yours. There's no dev work going on for 64 bit so don't install the roms you're seeing because they most likely are 32 bit.
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You need to make sure you don't go try to install ANY 32 bit rom on your device since it's 64 bit and I personally don't know of any roms that are 64 bit that were built for your phone. The ones listed around here are just stock roms to fix it if you break yours. There's no dev work going on for 64 bit so don't install the roms you're seeing because they most likely are 32 bit.
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There is no full working rom out there at the moment. If you find anything let me know :good:
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There is no full working rom out there at the moment. If you find anything let me know :good:
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There is a cm12 floating around on the net but there is a few bugs with it. Good luck
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There is no full working rom out there at the moment. If you find anything let me know :good:
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There is a cm12 floating around on the net but there is a few bugs with it. Good luck
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I think I would know what's floating around on here since I'm a DEV, and there is NO 64 bit CM12 like you're telling people..., there is only a 32 bit version...
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You need to make sure you don't go try to install ANY 32 bit rom on your device since it's 64 bit and I personally don't know of any roms that are 64 bit that were built for your phone. The ones listed around here are just stock roms to fix it if you break yours. There's no dev work going on for 64 bit so don't install the roms you're seeing because they most likely are 32 bit.
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are the stock ROMs just stock Android without the HTC skin running on top?
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are the stock ROMs just stock Android without the HTC skin running on top?
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No what i'm saying is they are 32 bit, there is NO 64 bit dev roms being worked on at the moment.. CM11 is 32 bit, CM12.1 is 32 bit, RaptorRom is 32 bit DragonRom is 32 bit OmniRom is 32 bit... This all means one thing, none of these 32 bit roms will work on a 64 bit phone!! It will just bootloop.
is a year that I try on the web DT2W for my mi4 but could not find anything good ... tried all the kernels, the channel Mi4 and mi3, but none works well ...
I have the model with 2GB of ram and I think that has a different camera from the model to 3GB of RAM and all the kernel I tried does not work the camera ...
I would only DT2W ... someone can help me?
I currently have the 7.2.11.0 MM xiaomi.eu
thank you so much
....A 2GB variant of Mi4? AFAIK, there are no variant of Mi4 with only 2GB of RAM.
Maybe your device is either Mi4i or Mi4c, and those two are a completely different device than Mi3/Mi4 (Cancro).
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....A 2GB variant of Mi4? AFAIK, there are no variant of Mi4 with only 2GB of RAM.
Maybe your device is either Mi4i or Mi4c, and those two are a completely different device than Mi3/Mi4 (Cancro).
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Apparently there is a 2gb ram version of mi4 of which even I was not aware...dont know if its real or fake...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFxBJ2Ufovw
sushd99 said:
Apparently there is a 2gb ram version of mi4 of which even I was not aware...dont know if its real or fake...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFxBJ2Ufovw
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Hmm, I've searched around, and indeed there's a Mi4 with only 2GB RAM released by Xiaomi... Seems like there's no difference other than the RAM amount.
To OP, try ZeurionX. It's currently the latest kernel that supports DT2W (which is added back on request). Activate and set up the feature through Kernel Adiutor app.
I tried every version of the kernel ZeurionX but the camera or does not work or is upside down
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I tried every version of the kernel ZeurionX but the camera or does not work or is upside down
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I'm going to buy the same version you have. I think we should get in touch with the ZeurionX developer. It should be relatively easy to get this fixed. It's a known problem on several devices.
OT: do you confirm that Xiaomi.eu rom works good on 2GB Mi4? Also, could you please check the codename is Cancro? Thanks.
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I'm going to buy the same version you have. I think we should get in touch with the ZeurionX developer. It should be relatively easy to get this fixed. It's a known problem on several devices.
OT: do you confirm that Xiaomi.eu rom works good on 2GB Mi4? Also, could you please check the codename is Cancro? Thanks.
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the codename is always cancro, I always used the rom xiaomi.eu and work well ... I currently have the latest stable xiaomi.eu miui stable 7.3.1.0
I'd like to try this kernel, but how would I revert to stock kernel then?
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I'd like to try this kernel, but how would I revert to stock kernel then?
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Just dirty re-flash the current ROM you're using through the recovery without wiping anything, although if you use Xposed you also have to flash it too.
Fix camera?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-porting-64bit-mtk-roms-mt6735-t3563807
I think that wont work, because our kernel or rom base is on 32bits o something like that, but i'm not sure, @vampirefo can confirm this if he want to
I believe these files listed are already ported into the build.
I had my doubts that this would make any change for our device, but i put the files into a patch install and tried it.
still No camera ..! sorry .
unless the files also needed to have permissions applied.
New rom compatible with Blu R1HD?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/nougat-unofficial-t3567653
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New rom compatible with Blu R1HD?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/nougat-unofficial-t3567653
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Not directly, would need to be "ported" and tweaked. That post says its for same processor and is tagged as "Coolpad 3"
Be careful testing with it. It comes from a general thread not any device specific thread so who know what to really is.
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Not directly, would need to be "ported" and tweaked. That post says its for same processor and is tagged as "Coolpad 3"
Be careful testing with it. It comes from a general thread not any device specific thread so who know what to really is.
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Thanks friend.
Can the library work for R1HD camera in nougat?
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Thanks friend.
Can the library work for R1HD camera in nougat?
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Do not know. It would have to be tested.
If there was a way to know what camera module the r1-hd has and then compare it to the one for cool-pad 3 lite has.
Other than being able to do that it is left to trial and error.
Is already there and is not working I think is something with the boot img I mean the kernel part
Id really like to see the camera working. I dont mind my R1s camera not working really because i dont use it, But if it were working the Rom would receive unofficial build status instead of the "beta" and "discontinued" its been getting.
I have Nougat on my R1 solely thanks to Mrmazak
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Id really like to see the camera working. I dont mind my R1s camera not working really because i dont use it, But if it were working the Rom would receive unofficial build status instead of the "beta" and "discontinued" its been getting.
I have Nougat on my R1 solely thanks to Mrmazak
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Well, unless you switch phones or Blu releases an update camera won't be fixed.
To be honest camera isn't very good in any built rom for Blu devices, I have several roms I built for Blu Life Max, camera works but it isn't very good, pink haze on back camera, front camera is ok, still not as good as stock rom, or ported stock rom from another device.
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menphis said:
Fix camera?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-porting-64bit-mtk-roms-mt6735-t3563807
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64bit won't work on 32bit, nor will 32bit work on 64bit, no way around that.
A 32bit kernel can only use 32bit binaries, 64bit kernel can only use 64bit binaries.
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Well, unless you switch phones or Blu releases an update camera won't be fixed.
To be honest camera isn't very good in any built rom for Blu devices, I have several roms I built for Blu Life Max, camera works but it isn't very good, pink haze on back camera, front camera is ok, still not as good as stock rom, or ported stock rom from another device.
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Yeah you got a point. The camera was never very good on Cyanogen or Lineage. Or even for that matter on the BLU rom itself... When i need the camera i just use my other S6 Active.
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A 32bit kernel can only use 32bit binaries, 64bit kernel can only use 64bit binaries.
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The compat layer (see CONFIG_COMPAT) in the kernel allows for 32 or 64-bit userland with 64-bit kernel and is supported by Android. The tinno 64-bit config has this enabled.
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The compat layer (see CONFIG_COMPAT) in the kernel allows for 32 or 64-bit userland with 64-bit kernel and is supported by Android. The tinno 64-bit config has this enabled.
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that means nothing, no matter.
good luck compiling a 64bit kernel out of 32bit source.
perhaps R1HD Plus, kernel source might be of some use to you all, the phone is advertised as 64bit, I think it's really going to be 32bit, but won't know til someone gets one.
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that means nothing, no matter.
good luck compiling a 64bit kernel out of 32bit source.
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You didn't know you could run 32-bit binaries in a 64-bit kernel, and now you're saying you can't compile 64-bit kernels out of 32-bit source, whatever you think you mean by that. The point of me mentioning the tinno config is there is a 32-bit config and 64-bit config for the same soc and surprise, it uses the same source. There is minor difference in the config choosing arch/arm and arch/arm64, but it still compiles and the source is there to do it.
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You didn't know you could run 32-bit binaries in a 64-bit kernel, and now you're saying you can't compile 64-bit kernels out of 32-bit source, whatever you think you mean by that. The point of me mentioning the tinno config is there is a 32-bit config and 64-bit config for the same soc and surprise, it uses the same source. There is minor difference in the config choosing arch/arm and arch/arm64, but it still compiles and the source is there to do it.
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I can't help you learn the difference, you will get there on your own.
A 64bit kernel can't run 32bit binaries, nor can a 32bit kernel run 64bit binaries.
You are confusing Linux kernel with Android kernel.
Android kernel 64bit uses a 64bit toolchain Android kernel 32bit uses a 32 bit toolchain neither kernel could possibly run any binaries compiled with the other toolchain.
But, instead of me trying to teach you the difference, go ahead and fix the camera with the 64bit binaries, no better teacher than hands on, get your hands dirty.
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did anybody seen this thead https://forum.xda-developers.com/k3-note/orig-development/rom-custom-nougat-roms-k-3-note-t3513466
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did anybody seen this thead https://forum.xda-developers.com/k3-note/orig-development/rom-custom-nougat-roms-k-3-note-t3513466
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What's written there is 100% correct, that's why camera will never ever work, unless Blu releases an update.
That's the main reason I got rid of the phone, other phones don't have the same limitations that R1HD has.
My Life Max doesn't have the problem, hopefully the new R1HD plus doesn't either.
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What's written there is 100% correct, that's why camera will never ever work, unless Blu releases an update.
That's the main reason I got rid of the phone, other phones don't have the same limitations that R1HD has.
My Life Max doesn't have the problem, hopefully the new R1HD plus doesn't either.
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I hope to the new r1 hd it doesn't have this kind of problems is having a different processor anyway I read something like the new r1 hd plus has a 64 bit processor
liviu_anc said:
I hope to the new r1 hd it doesn't have this kind of problems is having a different processor anyway I read something like the new r1 hd plus has a 64 bit processor
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I think that was just another lie Blu told, I am betting it's 32 bit.
If 32 bit and camera doesn't use junk libaries like R1HD, the phone can run many custom roms.
Most likely run same roms my Life Max can.
Should know soon enough a lot of people ordered the phone.
Whether is 64 bit or 32 bit.
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I think that was just another lie Blu told, I am betting it's 32 bit.
If 32 bit and camera doesn't use junk libaries like R1HD, the phone can run many custom roms.
Most likely run same roms my Life Max can.
Should know soon enough a lot of people ordered the phone.
Whether is 64 bit or 32 bit.
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When I will get to us I will order straight that phone who knows probably is having a 64 I didn't seen one in real life so I don't know yet just let's hope is a 64
like they say here https://www.mediatek.com/products/smartphones/mt6737
Hi, yesterday i got this awesome device as a gift. But i don't like the Custom OS EMUI, Is there a custom rom for this phone? I have already unlocked this phone and installed TWRP. But i don't know what else to do.
maucvs said:
Hi, yesterday i got this awesome device as a gift. But i don't like the Custom OS EMUI, Is there a custom rom for this phone? I have already unlocked this phone and installed TWRP. But i don't know what else to do.
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Nope...just don't waste your time... there is no custom ROMs yet...and I don't think that there will ever be... Huawei won't give the devs any source codes...
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There will be I am working on a custom is based of emui
Gen?
ts gaming said:
There will be I am working on a custom is based of emui
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Hi, if you are I would like to give it a try. Vodafone have given me a Pralx1 on contract. It certainly has lots of room for improvement as it has the usual bloated system install and isn't anywhere near as fast as it could be. It is slightly choppy through the menus compared to similar spec phones. How have you got round the problem of Huawei not releasing the code? Or have they released it recently?
johnuhtron said:
Hi, if you are I would like to give it a try. Vodafone have given me a Pralx1 on contract. It certainly has lots of room for improvement as it has the usual bloated system install and isn't anywhere near as fast as it could be. It is slightly choppy through the menus compared to similar spec phones. How have you got round the problem of Huawei not releasing the code? Or have they released it recently?
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He is just modifying the stock one. There won't be a big difference, just some optimisations.
Thanks
Vinnipinni said:
He is just modifying the stock one. There won't be a big difference, just some optimisations.
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Thanks for the reply VP. Well to be honest any improvements would be welcome. As I have the 16gb version and the current OS takes up 2/3rds of that space, which is insane. If its even partially debloated I will use what ever modified rom he throws my way. Fairly nice phone so will be keeping it and hoping for more custom roms to be released in the future if Huawei ever pulls there thumb out regarding there policies of sharing that is!
John
Debloating is easy if you have root, it's the optimisation that is a bit tricky. I've tried to use Kernel Aduitor to try and optimise it from there, but unfortunately I haven't found the best possible combination of settings yet.
How I wish we had RR, PA or Lineage ROMs, but I don't think that all the sources will be released.
In the meantime, Root and Viper4Android are there to satisfy me, though I hope we'll have Xposed for Nougat and a custom kernel in lieu of Custom ROMs..
hi all
for those impatient and dare to try, plus able to handle problems ON YOUR OWN as i cannot offer any help at this point:
anyone interested to test an updated version of BeastMode Kernel R154 by @freeza with the latest samsung firmware N960FXXU8FUD1?
please be noted that:
- this might be EXTREMELY DANGEROUS or could BRICK YOUR PHONE in a few seconds, and I am not responsible for bricked devices or any damages which may arise. so, you have been WARNED
- I have NOT TESTED on my n960f yet (just updated to TH4 from pie but not rooted yet for some reasons). SO THINK TWICE!!
- chances the phone may not boot up properly (boot loop or hang) due to the toolchains used to compile the kernel. I have encoutered this before with only one of the four or five gcc i had which booted up the phone successfully
ideal situation to minimize uncertainties:
- already on ud1
- data/cache partition is ext4 formatted (ideally NOT f2fs as supported by bm kernel)
- capable of diagnostic/identify the problems by examining the logcat/last_kmsg and the like would defintely a plus
to be continued...
Hello, Is this gonna work on newer BL version? FUE5 version, also @CyderXDA would wanna try it, but he's on newer BL. We also have Exynos9810 Telegram Chat, there's N9/S9/S9+ users in there that maybe could test for you and stuff if you're interested
JC1126 said:
Hello, Is this gonna work on newer BL version? FUE5 version, also @CyderXDA would wanna try it, but he's on newer BL. We also have Exynos9810 Telegram Chat, there's N9/S9/S9+ users in there that maybe could test for you and stuff if you're interested
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hi
samsung has just posted a newer firmware N960FXXS8FUE5, probably hours ago, i am going to update it first. will let you guys know
thanks for your interests
ykkfive said:
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samsung has just posted a newer firmware N960FXXS8FUE5, probably hours ago, i am going to update it first. will let you guys know
thanks for your interests
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Alright Goodluck!
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Alright Goodluck!
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update 20160616
updated to samsung ue5 sources
i have built 2 different versions, one with gcc 4.9 and the other with gcc 12. there will be only one version in the future (either gcc4 or 12). the reason i built 2 versions this time is in case one of the gcc used doesnt boot probably there's another one to try
differences between @freeza 's R154:
- kernel sources updated (N960F) without any fix or new feature
- not pre-rooted/pre-patched by magisk since the magisk version may differs from what u r using
- NOTE: other devices preiously supported are not recommeded yet, although you may try, i cant make any promise it will work since i didnt look at other devices sources
thinking if i should release it for testing now or wait until i have time to test it myself coz i don want to brick anyone's phone, including mine of coz
ykkfive said:
update 20160616
updated to samsung ue5 sources
i have built 2 different versions, one with gcc 4.9 and the other with gcc 12. there will be only one version in the future (either gcc4 or 12). the reason i built 2 versions this time is in case one of the gcc used doesnt boot probably there's another one to try
differences between @freeza 's R154:
- kernel sources updated without any fix or new feature
- not pre-rooted/pre-patched by magisk since the magisk version may differs from what u r using
- f2fs supported as R154 (cache/data)
thinking if i should release it for testing now or wait until i have time to test it myself coz i don want to brick anyone's phone, including mine of coz
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Holy that's insane, you added f2fs that's exciting, wonder if it supports AOSP because most of n9 users use aosp, some use noblerom
JC1126 said:
Holy that's insane, you added f2fs that's exciting, wonder if it supports AOSP because most of n9 users use aosp, some use noblerom
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i didnt add anything new, but i found in his fstab, f2fs is ready. i didnt examine the kernel sources yet. this it true for aosp etc also
so in case f2fs/aosp etc was supported in his R154, it should be, i believe...
sorry, but NO f2fs there in his kernel!!
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i didnt add anything new, but i found in his fstab, f2fs is ready. i didnt examine the kernel sources yet. this it true for aosp etc also
so in case f2fs/aosp etc was supported in his R154, it should be, i believe...
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that's cool, can't wait to try it out in lineage a11 lol
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that's cool, can't wait to try it out in lineage a11 lol
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i just checked the output, there's no f2fs unfortunately but i can add it later after test
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i just checked the output, there's no f2fs unfortunately
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that's still fine tbh, not much difference on ext4, good thing is it works on aosp, idk if it'll boot on oneui3.1 because it needs a permissive kernel to boot so yeah
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that's still fine tbh, not much difference on ext4, good thing is it works on aosp, idk if it'll boot on oneui3.1 because it needs a permissive kernel to boot so yeah
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tbf i have not built one with both sammy and aosp supported kernel, and i even don't know his kernel supports aosp
for the one ui 3.1 thing, u mean the ported one? i believe he's made it to run on existing kernel so it should be fine. of coz it needs to be tested first
ykkfive said:
tbf i have not built one with both sammy and aosp supported kernel, and i even don't know his kernel supports aosp
for the one ui 3.1 thing, u mean the ported one? i believe he's made it to run on existing kernel so it should be fine. of coz it needs to be tested first
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Ohh alright then
update 20210618
the ue5 kernel works properly so far, tested on stock rom only due to unable to get a ue5 custom rom atm
will be released soon
thanks a lot
released, closed