Anyway to Schedule Reboots for Fire without Root? - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have two 7" Fire Tablets that I use as alarm panels using the app "Fully Kiosk Browser" in conjunction with "Action Tiles". Unfortunately missed the rooting window but for the most part everything has worked fine. Biggest issue is after a week or so the Fire OS starts dragging to a crawl and is painful to use. A reboot clears it all up again though.
Is there any possible way to schedule a nightly reboot without having root access? Or any other ideas to prevent it getting so slow?
Thanks a lot!

coodkidd said:
I have two 7" Fire Tablets that I use as alarm panels using the app "Fully Kiosk Browser" in conjunction with "Action Tiles". Unfortunately missed the rooting window but for the most part everything has worked fine. Biggest issue is after a week or so the Fire OS starts dragging to a crawl and is painful to use. A reboot clears it all up again though.
Is there any possible way to schedule a nightly reboot without having root access? Or any other ideas to prevent it getting so slow?
Thanks a lot!
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Try MacroDroid or Automate; both available in the Play Store or via apkmirror.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arlosoft.macrodroid
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate

Davey126 said:
Try MacroDroid or Automate; both available in the Play Store or via apkmirror.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arlosoft.macrodroid
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate
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Thanks @Davey126, those both look like great tools but they need root for the "reboot" action . Thanks for sharing though. Not thinking there is anyway around rebooting without root...
Was thinking this sounded promising, but not sure there is a digital restart button (only the physical one): https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/3djhmo/how_to_reboot_your_phone_without_rooting/
Might try this app which just restarts processes and not the whole unit: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastrebootpro
Anyone have experience with this app (or similar) and recommend?​

coodkidd said:
Thanks @Davey126, those both look like great tools but they need root for the "reboot" action . Thanks for sharing though. Not thinking there is anyway around rebooting without root...
Was thinking this sounded promising, but not sure there is a digital restart button (only the physical one): https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/3djhmo/how_to_reboot_your_phone_without_rooting/
Might try this app which just restarts processes and not the whole unit: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastrebootpro
Anyone have experience with this app (or similar) and recommend?
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Sorry the suggested automation tools didn't work out. Using a tap emulator (screen reader/scraper) as suggested in the first post should work but may not always function as intended if the power dialog appears in different locations. Don't have experience with the other app but it sounds promising. It may or may not address the issue you are facing depending if it can 'act' on system apps and services.

Just thought I would mention, after testing those apps that close processes and such... didn't help .
Not sure how to bring up an on screen restart screen to try automated screen clicks. If anyone has any other ideas how to schedule a reboot on one of these things, that would be awesome. Device works as a good alarm panel except for the massive slow down.

Man...this is exactly my issue with ActionTiles and 2 different Tablets (Amazon Fires) that I have in my house for Home Automation. This so frustrating - after about 5-7 days, the screen goes crazy (jagged white/black) and requires a reboot. I have used both the ActionTiles App and the Kiosk Browser. Silk as well. I have eliminated all gifs, tiles that have bad devices, etc. Nothing works and the tablets are all up to date with latest patches. Very frustrating!

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[Q] Any suggestion on auto-start app manager/stopper/modder?

Hello guys,
I'm looking for a decent app that monitors and prevents certain processes from automatically starting. I'm not looking for a "killer", which reacts after the processes has started. I'm looking for a way that can stop certain processes from starting by itself. The best example would be: my FM Radio would start by itself?! And I don't want that, because I rarely listen to it, yet I still need it there, only when I manually open it up and listen to the radio...
The information from my search are heavily mixed up and some are extremely old (dated back to 2009), yet the newer ones are mostly vague in terms of a verdict as to what the best solution is.
I would appreciate your input and insights, and click that Thanks button generously
an app that i can suggest you is rom toolbox pro. one of its many functions is disabling the programs' autostart. i have to tell you that i haven't used this function yet, because i'm a bit noob and i wouldn't like to reflash the rom. the app is a bit expensive, but there is also the trial version, so before buying it, you can see if it is what you are searching for.
Thanks for your reply!
If I understood correct, you couldn't use the "anti-autostart" function because you haven't rooted yet?
I agree, ROM Toolbox Pro is a fine tool, and does this.
Before I started messing with ROMs, I just used Autostart. It does only this. What it also does is allow you to turn off the 'listeners' each app has for certain events.
For installed apps, you can often just disable all listeners to stop them popping up when they like and chew into my battery. For system apps, be more careful (or leave them). Most event names will mean nothing, so use with care. I try them one at a time and make sure everything still works, typically.
I think that is more comprehensive that ROM Toolbox, although that does a lot more. I have bought both anyway, and both are available for free to try out.
I seriously recommend DroidWall as well. It gives you control over what app can use what method, or none, to access the internet. A Must-Have, IMO.
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cswithxda said:
Thanks for your reply!
If I understood correct, you couldn't use the "anti-autostart" function because you haven't rooted yet?
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I think you can use the 'don't start' without Root. You cannot block the listeners until you have Root, so it is probably a waste of time. They'll just pop right up again whenever they wish.
Great, Jerome! ROM toolbox downloading
'Autostarts' works fine for me.
Using Autostarts here as will.
System tuner pro is also a very useful tool for app- and task-handling and many other things too.
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^Thanks!
I encountered a problem in ROM Toolbox though:
In Auto Start Manager, when I either try to disable an event or application, it says "disabling connectivity changed...", and loads from there infinitely. (more than 10 minutes). I ended up force quit it every time. Open it up again, it does show the event/application chosen was disabled, but I don't know if I have to force quit it everytime... Does anybody have any experience like this?
Have your superuser works perfact?
Anybody have a delayed response on the ICS leak roms with autostart settings?
I.e. In gemini app manager and rom toolbox, when you toggle autostart, it takes like 10 seconds before you can carry on.
Like a delay in acquiring superuser rights.
I do suspect it has to do with the rather rushed root kernel by CF, but I can live with it ;-)
cswithxda said:
^Thanks!
I encountered a problem in ROM Toolbox though:
In Auto Start Manager, when I either try to disable an event or application, it says "disabling connectivity changed...", and loads from there infinitely. (more than 10 minutes). I ended up force quit it every time. Open it up again, it does show the event/application chosen was disabled, but I don't know if I have to force quit it everytime... Does anybody have any experience like this?
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Do you get a popup from SuperUser requesting rights for Rom Toolbox when you start it the fist time? If so,m check the 'always' box and press 'OK'. You should get a message ('toast') saying access granted if you start the app again.
This assumes you have Root. If you do not, and you still get events disabled by ROM Toolbox, you have discovered a new 'exploit' that Rom Toolbox is using!
Best one I've ever used is App Manager. Doeing everything you said you need
Regards
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dr.ketan said:
Have your superuser works perfact?
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Yes, it is working fine. I checked su's log, and it shows the permission was granted.
Also, now that the toolbox has another issue. It won't save settings. For example, somehow my email initiator application was disabled (never set it that way), and when I press it to enable it, it says success. But after reboot, the email application is gone (in home screen and app drawer), and I open the toolbox to check it, it's still disabled. I temporarily solved this issue by deny the toolbox's permission in SU, but this is obviously not a permanent fix.
I emailed the author, but there's no response yet. So please help me
Many thanks!
hkgrob said:
Anybody have a delayed response on the ICS leak roms with autostart settings?
I.e. In gemini app manager and rom toolbox, when you toggle autostart, it takes like 10 seconds before you can carry on.
Like a delay in acquiring superuser rights.
I do suspect it has to do with the rather rushed root kernel by CF, but I can live with it ;-)
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Delays in mine also, except that it never finishes. The longest I waited was 60 minutes, and it still says please wait...
jeromepearce said:
Do you get a popup from SuperUser requesting rights for Rom Toolbox when you start it the fist time? If so,m check the 'always' box and press 'OK'. You should get a message ('toast') saying access granted if you start the app again.
This assumes you have Root. If you do not, and you still get events disabled by ROM Toolbox, you have discovered a new 'exploit' that Rom Toolbox is using!
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Sorry, I should've stated this clearly in the OP. I am rooted with ChainFire's kernel, I also have the toast notification poped up (already set it at the first time as "OK" and "always")
But it always says please wait...and never recovers. Pressing the "back" button has no response, pressing home button will let me go back to homescreen but the toolbox is still running in background, and if I open it up again, it's still at "please wait" status, which is why i always had to end it up in force quitting..
Also, in my last post, I described this new issue: it won't save settings on quit (or on system restart). I disable or enable certain events, after the restart, the event was still blocked, and the app icon was gone. I could only get my Email app (samsung stock) back by denying the toolbox's permission in SU.
Im using Android Assistant..
its free in the android market.. it takes 1 minute boot time for the app to load and you can manually shutdown/disable all running apps (that would load always everytime you boot up your phone)
cswithxda said:
Also, in my last post, I described this new issue: it won't save settings on quit (or on system restart). I disable or enable certain events, after the restart, the event was still blocked, and the app icon was gone. I could only get my Email app (samsung stock) back by denying the toolbox's permission in SU.
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Sounds like a severe problem. I would try one of the others suggested, they appear just as good. Autostart always does what I want without issues too. I do not use ROM Toolbox for blocking listeners, just for ROM utilities.
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letters_to_cleo said:
Im using Android Assistant..
its free in the android market.. it takes 1 minute boot time for the app to load and you can manually shutdown/disable all running apps (that would load always everytime you boot up your phone)
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It is good and useful, but it does not block listeners. If you do not do that, the apps will just pop up again.
^ Thanks for all your help fellas!
Just an update: I've got a response from the author and he said it's a known issue, and will hopefully be fixed in next update or so, so let's hope for good
cswithxda said:
Hello guys,
I'm looking for a decent app that monitors and prevents certain processes from automatically starting.
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Another alternative which disables receivers in Autorun Manager, the pro version works perfectly for me
YA PROCESS MANAGER
It's a process/autostart manager.

Bionic ICS Hot List: Annoyances, Bugs, Defects & Other Issues

I thought it was about time to create a unified thread that everyone can add to, about ICS annoyances and issues that you are experiencing using the new ICS releases that are coming out almost daily now. The developers post what is not working, like "Camera", but in reality that just refers to the hardware that isn't working. Functionality is a different story and my hope is that this thread can be a single place where everyone posts what their annoyances/issues are and then the community can decide what items need to go on the "hot list" below. This list will be the items we'd like to see fixed by our ever-so-awesome development community.
Regardless of which ICS build you are using (ICS4BIONIC, CM9, AXI0M, AOKP, KANG, etc.) there will always be little quirks that you'd like to see fixed. Post them here, and we'll see where it goes!
NOTE: Try not to post "as designed" annoyances/issues. For example, if you don't like that pressing the apps tray button brings up the apps list, well that is how Google "designed" their OS to work. That is a preference thing, not an actual "issue" that needs to be fixed, so you should seek out a third party app to address your need. Also, this list should attempt to only contain items that are issues on all custom ROMs, not just your specific one.
I will start this out with my list. I will edit/modify this list as time goes by and items get fixed and recommended, or deemed important/unimportant by the participants of this thread.
CURRENT HOT LIST (updated 2012-02-29):
Data must be toggled to GSM then back to CDMA/LTE after every boot (This is commonly known by users who have been flashing ICS over the last few weeks/months)
Contact images do not restore, even after Facebook app is installed and all contacts are set to sync. All contacts have default gray Android image instead of contact photo.
If you make/receive a call while using other apps (such as Navigation) you cannot easily switch between them or go back to the home screen (you have to wait until the other person hangs up)
Screen rotation is VERY slow by default (200ms wait time). Change to 100ms or 50ms for easier usability
Camera works fine for still images, but you cannot record video. Pressing the record button does not start recording, it just flashes and does nothing. Switching to Panorama mode also crashes the camera app altogether.
Native Gallery no longer has scroll button to quickly drag through photo library. You have to manually swipe through multiple pages. In my case, I have about 50 pages of thumbnails, and have to swipe for about 30-45 seconds before I get to the date range of the photos I want to look at.
Toggling GPS sometimes modifies Location check boxes, and even though you have re-enabled GPS, you have to manually go into Settings/Location and recheck the "Standalong GPS" box
The native Launcher has no ability to add widgets by pressing/holding on the target home screen as in all other Android OS versions. You now have to go deep into the Apps/widget menu to add widgets (unless you use a 3rd party launcher which of course uses more memory, and should not be necessary)
Many Apps are unsteady and not ready for ICS, like K9 Mail, Root Uninstaller, etc. They will install, and seem to function, but odd behavior occurs. For example, K9 Mail will mix up user credentials between email accounts. Root Uninstaller will see all your apps, but show 0.00kb space used for some apps, so the "Uninstall" button is grayed out and the app cannot be removed. MovieStudio app crashes after creating new project.
Many Games (even simple ones like Doodle Jump and Cubes), will completely freeze up the phone and make it non-responsive after only 5-10 seconds of gameplay. The powerbutton will not even respond, and the user has to do a complete battery pull (which for me is a pain since I have an Otterbox, multiple-layers to remove, then put back on).
Apps that toggle the LED light are very delayed when trying to turn them off. For example, the most popular one on the Market is named "Tiny Flashlight + LED" which includes a widget to turn the LED on/off from your home screen. This worked flawlessly on Android 2.3, but on ICS toggling the LED is very unpredictable. Sometimes it takes 30 seconds to a minute to turn off. Sometimes it does not turn off at all, and the phone begins to get really hot and you have to reboot.
Native Wifi Tether/Hotspot Toggle does not work. You must use the 3rd party Wifi hotspot app.
The wallpaper is static now, and does not move in the background when swapping left/right between home screens. I have not found a way to modify this, and this may not be a "bug" per say, but how Android 4.x is designed (a change in GUI). If you are like me though and liked the old way which helped me know which screens I was on, then it can be annoying. The screen indicator line is so small now, a tiny 2 pixel bar at the bottom, so it is hard to see which segment is highlighted.
VoiceToText feature now does live translation, where it converts the words as you say them, rather than waiting until you finish speaking an then analyzing. This can be good and bad, since now you have to manually press a "Done" button everytime you stop speaking, as the voice engine will not automatically close and analyze when you stop talking as it does up through Android 2.3 (Gingerbread).
DSPManager (Digital Signal Processing app) only modifies output through plugged in speakers or headphones, not live playback through phone speaker.
Muting: The user is unable to mute a phone call. Pressing the mute mic button will cause it to flash, but the mute feature never actually enables.
NOTE: I will not change the numbers next to each issue, but instead add new ones to the list that you all come up with, so if you reference a specific # in your follow-up posts then they will always stay accurate throughout the life of this thread when others are reading it.
you forgot miui4eva
You can't seem to mute a phone call either.
iNsAnEmOd said:
you forgot miui4eva
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Please edit your post and remove the quote of mine. People might get confused if there are multiple versions of the list floating around.
iNsAnEmOd said:
you forgot miui4eva
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MIUI modifications are custom changes made by 3rd parties to modify the Android GUI/functionality and OS as a whole. Others can vote on this, but I don't believe this falls under the annoyance/issue category. Custom mods are really a different subject. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Wintergon said:
You can't seem to mute a phone call either.
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Tested/confirmed. Added as #16.
Are you serious?...criticism?
iNsAnEmOd said:
Are you serious?...criticism?
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I'm not certain what you mean by this response. Can you please clarify?
FYI - The intent of this list is to keep the issues to Android-OS related items that we'd like to see the developers fix or enhance to work better. This list should only contain issues/annoyances of the OS of official system apps themselves that we'd like to tweak or change. The whole concept behind MIUI is basically wanting to turn your Android phone, for exmaple, into an iPhone, by making the GUI behave like Apple. This is just an example as there are many various MIUI endeavors. Thes emodifications basically install custom apps and change the GUI of the OS. This would be considered an after-ROM addon and changes the fundamental design of Google's Android OS. That is not what this list is trying to get at. We want to make the Android OS, as it is intended, work better; not redesign the Android ROM altogether. I hope that makes sense.
For example - See Wintergon's previous post about not being able to mute a phone call. That's a defect/annoyance that should already work properly, so it was added to the hot list. Of course, comments, questions and other viewpoints are totally welcome.
Bluetooth
Upon reboot, I have to toggle Bluetooth on/off for anyone to hear me on a phone call.
I have flashed and used all ICS versions available except Mimiu and found this issue. I have not tried to use BT headset yet
Upnp/dlna apps (bubbleupnp, moviebrowser) do not seem to work and actually lock up the wifi requiring a restart
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2THEXTRM said:
Upon reboot, I have to toggle Bluetooth on/off for anyone to hear me on a phone call.
I have flashed and used all ICS versions available except Mimiu and found this issue. I have not tried to use BT headset yet
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I don't understand. If you are not using a Bluetooth headset then why is it enabled? Is this just for them to hear you using the handset mouthpiece like a normal call?
collindv said:
Upnp/dlna apps (bubbleupnp, moviebrowser) do not seem to work and actually lock up the wifi requiring a restart
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Aren't those add-on apps? I don't see DLNA capability in any of my ICS builds.
Yes, they are add on apps
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I know that i am not the only one alone on this one but the wifi just randomly dissconnect drops and the only way to solve this granted this was a temporary fix... fxz wifi fixer.. wonder if this has something to do with the data issue toggleing etc..
Bfitz26 said:
I know that i am not the only one alone on this one but the wifi just randomly dissconnect drops and the only way to solve this granted this was a temporary fix... fxz wifi fixer.. wonder if this has something to do with the data issue toggleing etc..
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Hmm. I use wifi pretty much the whole day at work and at home and have never had any drops. They are different routers and ISPs as well. I would look into your wifi router settings. Try downloading the app named "Wifi Analyzer" from the Android Market and make sure your router is setup to use a Channel number that no neighboring wifi networks are using.
collindv said:
Yes, they are add on apps
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OK. Then in that case they wouldn't make this list. You'd need to contact the developer of those apps or find working alternatives. Sorry, I know that is a bum answer.
crobs808 said:
OK. Then in that case they wouldn't make this list. You'd need to contact the developer of those apps or find working alternatives. Sorry, I know that is a bum answer.
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Well, it is actually a problem with this build of ics that is causing them not to work
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2THEXTRM said:
Upon reboot, I have to toggle Bluetooth on/off for anyone to hear me on a phone call.
I have flashed and used all ICS versions available except Mimiu and found this issue. I have not tried to use BT headset yet
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I have also experienced this as well as the front camera not working
How about HDMI mirroring I believe this is due to cm9 base been wrong before I wish I knew what was neccessary to get a fix
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How to make the Galaxy gear launch an app on the phone?

I created an automate task to kill S voice and to launch Google Now. This helps me use the active listening wake up command feature on my note 3 to use Google now like the Moto X does. https://db.tt/X7LZSrzR
Does anyone know of a way to make the Galaxy gear button launch S voice on the phone? I'm thinking that combination would allow for Google now use from the watch since the audio would be both sent and received from the watch itself via bluetooth.
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by default the svoice is launched by double pressing the power button
but you can change it worth any other app from the gear manager
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The problem is that will only launch S voice on the Galaxy Gear which has limited features. I'm looking to make it launch S voice on the phone.
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I'm still racking my brain trying to find a way. The best I've come up with so far is kinda blah but it works. I installed the eBay for gear app and assigned it to the gear button after a double press. The eBay app opens and you click the view on phone button. I created a automateit app task to kill eBay when it opens and to launch Google now instead.It would work a little better if I could get it to launch voice search instead of google now and then saying google to start the search but that is not an option in automateit. I can't figure out how to use tasker to save my life lol. The audio for Google now is played through the galaxy gear via Bluetooth. It's 3 button presses and you lose the eBay app on your phone to do this though
that's great news
hope some of the devs will jump in and help you
keep up the good work
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Was there ever any progress on this?
I realize I'm bumping a two month old thread, but I was just thinking about this the other day...
Not really. I ended up going with the null rom to handle everything I wanted to do.
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cgadgetz said:
Not really. I ended up going with the null rom to handle everything I wanted to do.
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I too would LOVE to see Full S-Voice or Google Search/Google Now on the Galaxy Gear. That was the only reason that I spent 2 days trying to get the Null rom to work but couldn't. After rooting, I could never get the custom recovery to work. Everytime I tried to boot into recovery the watch would reset itself back to the default settings and I would have to reload everything all over again. After that happened over a dozen time I just gave up.
If anyone figures out a simpler way to get Google Voice Search working on the Gear please let me know...that's all I want, and the Null roms are a long tedious way of doing it for just that one function!
Batman8 said:
Null roms are a long tedious way of doing it for just that one function!
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Installing null takes less than 5 minutes from start to finish so not sure how long it is taking you to make it long and tedious.
As far as the constant resetting issue you had, I can only imagine you never read the OP for installing TWRP because that issue is addressed in bold.
You might want to actually read the OP for 3 minutes before wasting hours of your time from not following directions and eventually end up breaking something.
StaticMatt said:
Installing null takes less than 5 minutes from start to finish so not sure how long it is taking you to make it long and tedious.
As far as the constant resetting issue you had, I can only imagine you never read the OP for installing TWRP because that issue is addressed in bold.
You might want to actually read the OP for 3 minutes before wasting hours of your time from not following directions and eventually end up breaking something.
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Hey StaticMatt,
Thanks for the reply. However, I don't know if you install roms for a living or what...but my understanding is that to install the Null roms you first off have to root the Gear, and unless you already have the drivers, the .tar file...etc. that can take time to dl, extract, install, etc.
Then, a custom recovery has to be flashed (along with SU, which never worked either due to errors in MobileGo which you'll also need unless using ADB, in which case you'll need that, in order to push the apps). THEN and only THEN are you ready to install Null!
Although I'm not even close to an expert, I'm also not a NOOB either. I have 2 guides that I followed EXACTLY and neither worked, so with that along with the constant resets, it took a lot longer than 5 minutes for all 3 procedures!
I'll check the info I have against the instructions/guide here in this forum and maybe try it again when I have more time, but if you were trying to say that the info here is better/more precise than maybe YouTube videos then why not just say it? But don't insult me as if I haven't done any homework first. I have 7 Android devices (6 of them I've rooted). I've been on Android since the start and I am very aware of the risks of bricking so I never take such procedures "lightly."
Hopefully, once trying it again, someone else will come to my aid with some actual "help" if I get stuck, instead of attitude and sarcasm. But thanks again at least for the reply.
Questions (regarding the Null roms on the Galaxy Gear):
* First off, I apologize if any of these questions have already been answered but...
1.) I noticed that everyone that is running Null on their Gear has a watch face that looks more like a phone home screen than an actual watch. So does the gear have to look like that when running this rom, or can one still run apps like Watch Styler and still have "full screen" watch faces without the 4 little apps buttons at the bottom of the face?
2.) Once running Null can you set the double-tap launch app to Google Search using the Gear Manager? This is really my main goal. I'd simply like to be able to double-tap my watch button and give Google Search my voice commands, so I don't want to find out after hacking that you can't set it up that way for some reason.
3.) When on Null, can you still have all the same Gear functions like the Media Controller, Notifications, Pedometer, Voice Memo, etc. or would I then have to run all full apps like Google Music, PowerAmp, etc.?
4.) Lastly, how easy is it to revert back to stock if not liking Null? Would I have to reflash the stock image, and if so, how in depth is that process? I'm guessing that I would just open Odin and reflash the one file, but I'd like someone to confirm that please if you don't mind.
Modding this watch seems a bit different than all the phones that I've modded with custom roms (i.e. even the way apps are loaded is quite different in that you can't just attach to a PC via USB and simply drag & drop anymore. It's now all Wondershare MobileGo or ADB and all).
Thanks.
Batman8 said:
Questions (regarding the Null roms on the Galaxy Gear):
* First off, I apologize if any of these questions have already been answered but...
1.) I noticed that everyone that is running Null on their Gear has a watch face that looks more like a phone home screen than an actual watch. So does the gear have to look like that when running this rom, or can one still run apps like Watch Styler and still have "full screen" watch faces without the 4 little apps buttons at the bottom of the face?
2.) Once running Null can you set the double-tap launch app to Google Search using the Gear Manager? This is really my main goal. I'd simply like to be able to double-tap my watch button and give Google Search my voice commands, so I don't want to find out after hacking that you can't set it up that way for some reason.
3.) When on Null, can you still have all the same Gear functions like the Media Controller, Notifications, Pedometer, Voice Memo, etc. or would I then have to run all full apps like Google Music, PowerAmp, etc.?
4.) Lastly, how easy is it to revert back to stock if not liking Null? Would I have to reflash the stock image, and if so, how in depth is that process? I'm guessing that I would just open Odin and reflash the one file, but I'd like someone to confirm that please if you don't mind.
Modding this watch seems a bit different than all the phones that I've modded with custom roms (i.e. even the way apps are loaded is quite different in that you can't just attach to a PC via USB and simply drag & drop anymore. It's now all Wondershare MobileGo or ADB and all).
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1) these 4 little icons is the dock. most of us are using nova launcher, i personally disabled the dock because it's not necesarry to keep these items on top all the time.
2) i'm not sure if that is possible. perhaps if you don't use nova launcher but something else, you can keep the double tap shortcut. mine is set to power on/power off the screen.
3) you can use 'stock' apps with no issues. i'm using pedometer, notifications and media controller. for the rest i found a replacement apps.
4) i never done it, but it will be 'as easy' as putting custom rom on it. but frankly.. there is no reason not to have null. you can keep null rom and just use stock launcher if that's your liking..
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1) these 4 little icons is the dock. most of us are using nova launcher, i personally disabled the dock because it's not necesarry to keep these items on top all the time.
2) i'm not sure if that is possible. perhaps if you don't use nova launcher but something else, you can keep the double tap shortcut. mine is set to power on/power off the screen.
3) you can use 'stock' apps with no issues. i'm using pedometer, notifications and media controller. for the rest i found a replacement apps.
4) i never done it, but it will be 'as easy' as putting custom rom on it. but frankly.. there is no reason not to have null. you can keep null rom and just use stock launcher if that's your liking..
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Thanks so much Hurdlejade! I really appreciate your response. It's also good to know that what I'm ultimately trying to do with Null may not even be possible (setting double-tap to Google Search/Google Now). I wish the Galaxy Gear version of S-Voice was much better!!!
I really want to be able to invoke Google Now with a double-tap as well, but have had no luck so far.
An alternative that I'm using that is also very convenient is to assign Google Now to one of the long-press button on UDN.
It's more difficult to invoke if you aren't in a situation where you can easily perform the swiping (like driving), but it beats having to scroll through home screens or the app drawer to get to it.
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I really want to be able to invoke Google Now with a double-tap as well, but have had no luck so far.
An alternative that I'm using that is also very convenient is to assign Google Now to one of the long-press button on UDN.
It's more difficult to invoke if you aren't in a situation where you can easily perform the swiping (like driving), but it beats having to scroll through home screens or the app drawer to get to it.
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I use gmd gesture control. You can set a gesture like a double tap for opening an app like Google now. I also use gestures to launch tasker tasks.

Tips for coping with an un-rooted device

There are a lot of threads here and in the VZW forum about how terrible this device is, etc, without root. I'm a former flash-a-holic and my last several devices have all been Samsung on stock, albeit rooted, firmware. those of us preferring touchwiz have our reasons, and those who prefer aosp have theirs, but this isn't a "why we can't have aosp" thread, this is about making lemonade with what we have.
so, my reasons for wanting root, and how I worked around them:
1. ad blocking. I LOVE adaway, its seriously the first app I'd install on a new device after rooting. without root, give adblock plus a try. you can turn off the status bar notifications in the app and by ticking the box in the app manager.
its simple enough to disable apps on WiFi, just input the proxy host name and port and you're done. I hadn't ever found a clear and concise instruction on how to do this with mobile data, so here it is- create a NEW APN and copy all of the info from the stock APN, and add the proxy host name and port. done, you now have ad blocking on WiFi and mobile data, without root, and without persistent notifications.
2. de-bloating. first, the s5 has less bloat than the s3 or s4, but its still there. it is INCREADIBLY easy to disable or uninstall on this device. go to the app drawer and press the settings icon (or long press the app switcher button) and select uninstall/disable apps. if its ATT or Samsung, and you don't want it, odds are you can either uninstall or disable it. just make sure that in Samsung Apps you disable automatic updates over WiFi. you can also hide them.
myth busting time: IF you were rooted, and IF you manually removed bloat apps, you do NOT gain ANY additional usable space in device storage.
3. tether bypass. there are multiple threads here on how to do this. I have a 10gb plan so its a non issue here.
4. Writing to extSDcard. most built in apps like the browser, email, and camera will save to the ext SD card. so will my files, which is actually a LOT better than on the s3 or s4.
5. removing bloat bookmarks from the stock browser. I prefer the stock browser over chrome, call me crazy. I also don't like the 4 pre-loaded bookmarks being in my list. I saw a tip here to just create a folder called My Bookmarks or whatever you like and put your bookmarks there. the bloat is still there but its not staring you in the face.
so what else have you guys been doing to get functionality that was easy and convenient with root, but still attainable without?
Russ77 said:
so what else have you guys been doing to get functionality that was easy and convenient with root, but still attainable without?
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Speed- I find that a lot of people nag about speed, my phone is fluid in all ways. Three factors play into this, using the TW launcher, animation speed, one last tricky one-- S-Voice has a delay on the home button waiting for the possible hook in for user prompting it. My standpoint is you can get from a TW rom the kind of speed or more that you can with a rom somebody else pre-tweaked for you.
Remedies below.
1. Get Nova Launcher (you can look into others if you like, if you want an experienced users perspective on speed, use Nova it flies)
2. Enable Developer Options(click About Device, click build number until it says Dev mode is enabled), Turn OFF animations for Transition window animation scale, transition animation scale and animator duration scale.
3. Open up S Voice (through the double-tap shortcut or in the app drawer). Tap the menu button in the top right corner (three dots) and find the "Open via home key" option under "Wake-up." Disable for slightly faster home button response.
Some people may find this abrupt transition between applications off putting at first but once you give it an hour the phone is flying so fast I could never go back. Enjoy!
As mentioned above:
Nova Launcher
Transitions at .5 or OFF
De-bloating (see this thread)
And - tasker, tasker, tasker!
My tip.. simple but I'm a customize nerd.
iFont available for free from the Play store allows you to add hundreds of fonts to your phone right from the app, and is compatible with the font selection from settings - display.You can also load fonts from the internet or your computer and use that as your default font.
The one lag, I still can't stand... despite all the animations being off is the lag between camera and gallery... like I take a photo, click the little image to view it and it sits there for at least 15 seconds before the gallery opens up. Anyone else have this issue?? I'm so used to CM based roms and still try to swipe to view the gallery LOL
rachelm920 said:
My tip.. simple but I'm a customize nerd.
The one lag, I still can't stand... despite all the animations being off is the lag between camera and gallery... like I take a photo, click the little image to view it and it sits there for at least 15 seconds before the gallery opens up. Anyone else have this issue?? I'm so used to CM based roms and still try to swipe to view the gallery LOL
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This could be due to your SD card. If you are saving pics to external SD and your card is a lower class it will read and write data in a longer time frame. If you are using internal memory and not the SD card slot then I'm not sure. Backup everything and try a factory reset. I personally don't have an SD card, I don't see the need without root. Also it takes about 3 seconds for me to do what takes you 15. That's why I think an SD might be the Culprit here
There is 1 thing you can not do without root that is needed for me. I own a Pioneer Appradio and use ARUnchained which requires root. If you don't know what it is then look it up. It basically mirrors your phone and lets you use touch on Pioneers Appradio. I used this with my GS3 and if I would have known we wouldn't have root after this long I would have kept it and not bought the GS5. There is no getting around root for this. Pioneer's stock app has restrictions and doesn't let you mirror everything where as ARUnchained solves this problem.
I would like to find a way to save stuff from Dropbox to the external memory.
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natefish said:
I would like to find a way to save stuff from Dropbox to the external memory. Sent from my GS5
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Here is all you need.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttxapps.dropsync
I use the Pro, worth every penny.
abovenbeyond said:
Here is all you need. I use the Pro, worth every penny.
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Thanks, but was there supposed to be a link?
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natefish said:
Thanks, but was there supposed to be a link?
Sent from my GS5
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Fixed
Russ77 said:
add the proxy host name and port.
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Bit of a newb here.. but what exactly do I put in these spots? Tried this and kept saying no internet and switching back over. Any help would be appreciated.
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Bit of a newb here.. but what exactly do I put in these spots? Tried this and kept saying no internet and switching back over. Any help would be appreciated.
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proxy host is "localhost" without quotes....and proxy port is 2020....that should do it :good:
Anyone got a working "volume rocker skip"? I've seen the double press ones that work as a service..seems wonky.
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Stephen
abovenbeyond said:
Here is all you need.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttxapps.dropsync
I use the Pro, worth every penny.
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Thanks for the tip - I was using "Sweet Home!" app to sync my camera photos with my laptop but after multiple years without issue, all of the sudden I'm getting an invalid syntax error. Tried getting help from the developers but got no response. Dropbox it is!
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Bit of a newb here.. but what exactly do I put in these spots? Tried this and kept saying no internet and switching back over. Any help would be appreciated.
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RoguePC said:
proxy host is "localhost" without quotes....and proxy port is 2020....that should do it :good:
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RoguePC's got it covered.
my only real gripe with adblock + is it only blocks internet traffic, not in-app ads. still better than nothing though.
Anyone know how to remap buttons ? I highly doubt there is a way without root but not having a menu button is killing me
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Anyone know how to remap buttons ? I highly doubt there is a way without root but not having a menu button is killing me
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The menu button function is still there ... just long-press the recent apps button. If you've got a specific app that doesn't display the 3-dots menu somewhere on the screen, you might want to reach out to the developer. That's part of modern Android UX standards. I recently reached out to Untappd and they updated their app to include it pretty quickly.
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The menu button function is still there ... just long-press the recent apps button. If you've got a specific app that doesn't display the 3-dots menu somewhere on the screen, you might want to reach out to the developer. That's part of modern Android UX standards. I recently reached out to Untappd and they updated their app to include it pretty quickly.
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Thanks, but what I meant is that I do not like having to hold down the button to pull up tthe menu. I much rather prefer having the recent apps by holding down home.
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Thanks, but what I meant is that I do not like having to hold down the button to pull up tthe menu. I much rather prefer having the recent apps by holding down home.
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Ah, gotcha. Unfortunately, short of root reassigning buttons, I don't think that's a desire that will see much traction in the future now that the UX standards require on-screen menus and more devices are coming out without any soft buttons at all. When you get down to it though, you're either tapping the bottom-left of your device or you're tapping the three dots on the screen.
Awesome app called quick click,let's you map your volume buttons for flashlight and a lot of others actions,just throwing it out there missed using xposed,mods with that.
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screen overlay detected phone cannot acces drive with apps

Hello, I'm having issues with my N6 after the Marshmallow But I am facing a problem that for each application, I am getting screen overlay detected. If I follow on screen instructions, in settings, I can't change permission. i cannot upload any images from my phone to facebook,instagram basically any app trying to access the drive on my phone. can you guys help solve this issue.
thanks,
A quick Google search for "screen overlay detected" found a lot of results indicating this is due to screen filtering apps that modify the screen brightness, such as Lux, Bluelight Filter, Twilight, etc.
alryder said:
A quick Google search for "screen overlay detected" found a lot of results indicating this is due to screen filtering apps that modify the screen brightness, such as Lux, Bluelight Filter, Twilight, etc.
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Yes, they also prevent you granting root access to apps too. Lux is the most common. These apps put an overlay over the UI. Android protection prevents you pressing "serious" buttons in case it is the overlay working to malicious intents.
xbatis said:
Hello, I'm having issues with my N6 after the Marshmallow But I am facing a problem that for each application, I am getting screen overlay detected. If I follow on screen instructions, in settings, I can't change permission. i cannot upload any images from my phone to facebook,instagram basically any app trying to access the drive on my phone. can you guys help solve this issue.
thanks,
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I'm curious if you were able to resolve this issue and if it was resolved with what I found about the issue.
xbatis said:
hello, i'm having issues with my n6 after the marshmallow but i am facing a problem that for each application, i am getting screen overlay detected. If i follow on screen instructions, in settings, i can't change permission. I cannot upload any images from my phone to facebook,instagram basically any app trying to access the drive on my phone. Can you guys help solve this issue.
Thanks,
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okay. I have called google support for five nights and not one tech support person was able to help me. After countless hours of fiddling i figured out how to fix this problem. Put your phone in safe mode (press the power off button and press on the on screen power off icon until it asks if you want to go in safe mode. Press okay) then once it reboots, go to settings, then apps, click on the facebook app or whatever app you have the problem with, press permissions and then turn on all the permissions (toggle to the right and it should turn green). Repeat for whichever other apps have this problem then turn reboot the phone and voila! It's fixed. :d
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okay. I have called google support for five nights and not one tech support person was able to help me. After countless hours of fiddling i figured out how to fix this problem. Put your phone in safe mode (press the power off button and press on the on screen power off icon until it asks if you want to go in safe mode. Press okay) then once it reboots, go to settings, then apps, click on the facebook app or whatever app you have the problem with, press permissions and then turn on all the permissions (toggle to the right and it should turn green). Repeat for whichever other apps have this problem then turn reboot the phone and voila! It's fixed. :d
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I was thinking going back to Lollipop, then you saved my days. This "Screen overlay detected" was driving me nuts as I have tons of apps that requires "Draw over other apps" such as Sidebar Launcher, SuperSU, Widgetsoid, Rotation Manager... almost 30 apps. So every time I install new app I virtually have to turn off the "Draw over other apps" for all these 30 then set the permissions then turn them on again. It's so frustrating. And if I stupidly reset permissions for all apps then virtually most are unusable. Now with Safemode I can grant an app all the permissions it requires without turn the "Draw over other apps" off.
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okay. I have called google support for five nights and not one tech support person was able to help me. After countless hours of fiddling i figured out how to fix this problem. Put your phone in safe mode (press the power off button and press on the on screen power off icon until it asks if you want to go in safe mode. Press okay) then once it reboots, go to settings, then apps, click on the facebook app or whatever app you have the problem with, press permissions and then turn on all the permissions (toggle to the right and it should turn green). Repeat for whichever other apps have this problem then turn reboot the phone and voila! It's fixed. :d
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Best solution out there. Tnx.
@jokeinc I don't have twilight, lux, or any CM apps. Your solution is the only solution to have worked for me. Thank you so much!
I have a Samsung galaxy s6 and it didn't work for me, i have tried everythings but the only way is go into ultra power safe mode and from here i was able to activate permissions for whatsapp. For activate the other apps i don't know what to do.
Sorry for my bad english but i'm desperate??
@Zack909: Desperate and in the wrong forum. This is the Nexus 6 forums. You'll need to ask your questions in the Galaxy S6 forums, as your device has Touchwiz, which our devices don't run.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@Zack909: Desperate and in the wrong forum. This is the Nexus 6 forums. You'll need to ask your questions in the Galaxy S6 forums, as your device has Touchwiz, which our devices don't run.
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Thanks but i solved the problemi. I just unistalled CM Locker
It's good you solved your problem. You shouldn't be running anything from Cheetah Mobile, as every single app they produce is pretty much junk.
Grrr
Omni swipe program can also cause this disable it or uninstall
For me it's just SwipePad that I use which has an always on overlay. If you know what apps are overlaying I've found a workaround you can setup. Ideally an app shouldn't have an invisible overlay permanently hogging resources so you should find and disable them permanently if they're unwanted anyway. An app like Elixir with it's "running" processes/services filtered to User can help finding the culprit.
So I use a workaround to quickly disable an overlay for permission toggling. A "Task Shortcut" that uses the Tasker Greenify plugin (don't know if pro is required) to Hibernate the overlay app/s, Wait for a configured time and then Wake. Note that the wake process takes five seconds to finish.
I open my shortcut from SwipePad itself for it to disable for ten seconds while I click away at permissions to my hearts content. When the time is up it resumes working normally and all is well :highfive:
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For me it's just SwipePad that I use which has an always on overlay. If you know what apps are overlaying I've found a workaround you can setup. Ideally an app shouldn't have an invisible overlay permanently hogging resources so you should find and disable them permanently if they're unwanted anyway. An app like Elixir with it's "running" processes/services filtered to User can help finding the culprit.
So I use a workaround to quickly disable an overlay for permission toggling. A "Task Shortcut" that uses the Tasker Greenify plugin (don't know if pro is required) to Hibernate the overlay app/s, Wait for a configured time and then Wake. Note that the wake process takes five seconds to finish.
I open my shortcut from SwipePad itself for it to disable for ten seconds while I click away at permissions to my hearts content. When the time is up it resumes working normally and all is well :highfive:
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I don't understand what you're doing. Your link is to a Task Manager Shortcut for Galaxy S3. I can see how Tasker could be used, but I don't understand how this app would be involved.
JimSmith94 said:
I don't understand what you're doing. Your link is to a Task Manager Shortcut for Galaxy S3. I can see how Tasker could be used, but I don't understand how this app would be involved.
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Oops, my bad. I'll fix my post. The app is AutoShortcut.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joaomgcd.autoshortcut
Task Shortcut is what the system shortcut it enables is called.
xbatis said:
Hello, I'm having issues with my N6 after the Marshmallow But I am facing a problem that for each application, I am getting screen overlay detected. If I follow on screen instructions, in settings, I can't change permission. i cannot upload any images from my phone to facebook,instagram basically any app trying to access the drive on my phone. can you guys help solve this issue.
thanks,
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Boot into safe mode using hardware button combo. Enable all permissions, reboot normally
How to fix Screen Overlay Detected Error easily
xbatis said:
Hello, I'm having issues with my N6 after the Marshmallow But I am facing a problem that for each application, I am getting screen overlay detected. If I follow on screen instructions, in settings, I can't change permission. i cannot upload any images from my phone to facebook,instagram basically any app trying to access the drive on my phone. can you guys help solve this issue.
thanks,
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This is because of the apps that are using "draw over other apps" feature. You can just turn them off from settings. If you want a head up on how to do this, you can go to this link here. Fix screen overlay detected
jokeinc said:
okay. I have called google support for five nights and not one tech support person was able to help me. After countless hours of fiddling i figured out how to fix this problem. Put your phone in safe mode (press the power off button and press on the on screen power off icon until it asks if you want to go in safe mode. Press okay) then once it reboots, go to settings, then apps, click on the facebook app or whatever app you have the problem with, press permissions and then turn on all the permissions (toggle to the right and it should turn green). Repeat for whichever other apps have this problem then turn reboot the phone and voila! It's fixed. :d
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i'm ready to put my phone in the garbage disposal over this error. i can't get rid of it and can't even download a simple APK file from chrome without getting it. I've done everything suggested in every youtube video and what you said above.
i turn off screen overlay for every app shown, which is about 30 and i have none of the so called problem apps installed.
i go into safe mode and try to turn on a permission and I STILL GET THE SCREEN OVERLAY ERROR. i have no idea what to do or what is wrong.

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