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Major crossroad with Nexus 6

Hey guys, looking for some input here.
Im coming up on the 14 day return policy for the nexus 6, but im really thinking of returning it and going with the note 4.
The only issue i have with the phone is battery life. My phone seems to gulp it down. Now i do have many battery draining features turned off and standby time is excellent. Its when i actually use the phone i get massive drain, whether it be facebooking, web browsing, or playing games, the phone loses a lot of life! My wife used the camera this past weekend for 20 minutes according to the stats and my percentage dropped 25%from 80% to 55% within 1/2 hour!
My brightness is also on adaptive at 35-40%. For the life of me, it just seems i cant stop the battery drain.
I know going to the stock note 4 battery is about the same, but Zerolemon is releasing the note 4 10000 mah battery later this month. I had the same battery on my note 3 and loved it, ive never killed that battery. Yes, itll be a brick, yes but im thinking id prefer battery over function.
I do love the nexus, especially the screen size and the front facing speakers, and i will lose those with the note, but having a dead phone by 6pm makes those features useless. Yes, i could charge the phone halfway through the day, but i was spoiled with the note 3 extended battery.
SO my question is, should i chance the nexus 6 and hope upcoming updates solve the drain, or should i dump it and go with the note 4 and extended battery.
Frank
TL;DR NExus 6 battery dies too quick, return and get note 4 with zero lemon.

I went from the Note 4 to the Nexus 6 and battery life is about the same. I was actually pretty disappointed with the battery life of the Note 4 considering i had a Note 2 where the battery lasted FOREVER! I had originally decided that i would bypass the Nexus 6 and get the Note 4 instead, and at first i loved it but after having to deal with constant lag and dealing with samsung's crappy radios i'm glad i picked up the Nexus 6 (Note 4 is my new alarm clock at home)

It seems that your mind is already made up.. just get the Note 4

ultravorx said:
Hey guys, looking for some input here.
Im coming up on the 14 day return policy for the nexus 6, but im really thinking of returning it and going with the note 4.
The only issue i have with the phone is battery life. My phone seems to gulp it down. Now i do have many battery draining features turned off and standby time is excellent. Its when i actually use the phone i get massive drain, whether it be facebooking, web browsing, or playing games, the phone loses a lot of life! My wife used the camera this past weekend for 20 minutes according to the stats and my percentage dropped 25%from 80% to 55% within 1/2 hour!
My brightness is also on adaptive at 35-40%. For the life of me, it just seems i cant stop the battery drain.
I know going to the stock note 4 battery is about the same, but Zerolemon is releasing the note 4 10000 mah battery later this month. I had the same battery on my note 3 and loved it, ive never killed that battery. Yes, itll be a brick, yes but im thinking id prefer battery over function.
I do love the nexus, especially the screen size and the front facing speakers, and i will lose those with the note, but having a dead phone by 6pm makes those features useless. Yes, i could charge the phone halfway through the day, but i was spoiled with the note 3 extended battery.
SO my question is, should i chance the nexus 6 and hope upcoming updates solve the drain, or should i dump it and go with the note 4 and extended battery.
Frank
TL;DR NExus 6 battery dies too quick, return and get note 4 with zero lemon.
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Are you using stock ROM or rooted and/or flashed? Sounds unusual for stock. I'd check your network settings and make sure your preferred network type and access point name are correct for your carrier but if standby time is good that probably isn't it anyway. I'd look for an app which gives more detailed battery usage information and go from there.

after going through an S4 and Note 3.. Im glad to be away from samsung. They have amazing hardware specs but drag it down with their crappy touchwiz. It's really unfortunate, the s-pen is pretty great.

toyfreak said:
Are you using stock ROM or rooted and/or flashed? Sounds unusual for stock. I'd check your network settings and make sure your preferred network type and access point name are correct for your carrier but if standby time is good that probably isn't it anyway. I'd look for an app which gives more detailed battery usage information and go from there.
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im actually fully stock, with just a few apps. I have checked for wake locks and draining apps and down have any. Actually all the apps i had are the same as the note 3 i had. Nothing new.
Im on att and my prefered network is LTE, changed it from global a few days ago.
It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank

tsy87 said:
after going through an S4 and Note 3.. Im glad to be away from samsung. They have amazing hardware specs but drag it down with their crappy touchwiz. It's really unfortunate, the s-pen is pretty great.
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I'm in the same boat you are. I'd get a samsung device today if they just got rid of TouchWiz and just went stock AOSP.

ultravorx said:
It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
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That is normal on any device. That battery for me is decent. However don't forget that you just got a new device. People always use new devices more initially before they settle into a normal use rhythm. Also I wouldn't worry much about the return date because this device is so hard to get that if you sold it yourself you would probably make money on it. Just give it time.
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It's possible that something is wrong with YOUR nexus. I get 5 hours of sot with a stock rooted rom and greenify. Once I decrypt, ROM and kernel I'd expect 6 to 8 easy.

shook187 said:
It seems that your mind is already made up.. just get the Note 4
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This
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Could it be related to this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/05/google-confirms-android-5-0-lollipop-delay/
edit: nm i see you already mentioned it in the original post, and were just looking for opinions.
The battery life is obviously important, so it is certainly a dice roll on your part.
For me, I have a Note 2 and waiting for N6 to be available for me. I am so sick of Samsung forced apps and touchwiz. It's not rooted, but I don't feel like I should have to root it in order to get a basic OS without the addons being forced on me by the manufacturer, and then have the warranty voided because of it.

ninja6o4 said:
Could it be related to this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/05/google-confirms-android-5-0-lollipop-delay/
edit: nm i see you already mentioned it in the original post, and were just looking for opinions.
The battery life is obviously important, so it is certainly a dice roll on your part.
For me, I have a Note 2 and waiting for N6 to be available for me. I am so sick of Samsung forced apps and touchwiz. It's not rooted, but I don't feel like I should have to root it in order to get a basic OS without the addons being forced on me by the manufacturer, and then have the warranty voided because of it.
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My top hitter has never been misc, its usually android os or google play services.
Frank

So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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ultravorx said:
So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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theres no such thing as "typical". we all use our devices differently, and have differing signal quality. you can really ever compare battery stats with another person because of that. only you know how you use your device. so the question is going to get changed.. by how you use your device, and your local signal quality, are you happy with your battery life?

ultravorx said:
im actually fully stock, with just a few apps. I have checked for wake locks and draining apps and down have any. Actually all the apps i had are the same as the note 3 i had. Nothing new.
Im on att and my prefered network is LTE, changed it from global a few days ago.
It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
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Did you allow google to auto restore settings, apps, data at first boot up? Coming from a different device and OS version could have synced something funky that is causing this. I have noticed this before. Consequentially I never use this feature. I always set every device up fresh (same if switching Roms too in my book). I would try a factory reset at the very least. I have been trying hard to kill my n6 today with no luck, already 12 up time 22% battery left with 4½ hours SOT. Battery stats say I have 3 hours of life left.
Have google now on and going, 2 email clients syncing, g+ syncing, Tapatalk syncing, roughtly 4 active hangouts going, and updated 8+ apps from play store.
Been actively trying to duplicate a power day on this thing. With you experience, something is off with your description and worth experimenting some.

I did do the wireless sync due to some apps needing to recover data.
Maybe I'll try a reset and manually download the apps.
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Ive had my phone for a couple weeks now. The first week I had it obviously I was playing around with it a ton and trying different Qi chargers to see how they work. My battery life was unimpressive at 8-10 hours. I was hoping to have at least a full days worth of time based on everything this is supposed to have.
Then I tried a couple things. I turned off the stupid fit application. I ran the battery all the way down until the phone literally turned off. Then I used only wall USB chargers to charge it up.
Now with the same type of usage 3-4 hours of screen time, Im typically getting at least 18-24 hours of battery life. I even managed 30 hours once. Anyway, Im extremely happy with the way this phone is holding up now. Obviously YMMV but I think if you find the right tweaks for the way you use it, it should last longer than you expect.

ultravorx said:
So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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So Far Today by your stats i will give you mine.
@ 27% Battery Left after flashing Stock a 1.5 days ago rooted/decrypted
Screen is at 4:30:09 @ 42% Usage
Phone Radio 15:30:41 @ 4% usage
Wifi Active 3:24:12 1% usage
Held Awake 2:23:26 0% usage
App Usage 53%
I also have a persistent System (ADSPD) drain that while i don't know how much its draining app sucker puts it at 13.8% vs the next drainer of Android System at 7.3%
Just guessing maybe you are in a poorer signal area than I? Basing that on your phone radio using much more of the percentage?
For what its worth you saw my screen on time. GSAM is predicting 6h 58m total for the day if i run it to 0.

Battery drain on replacement Note 7

So, my first Note 7 was great. I had none of the reported lag or battery life/battery drain problems. I replaced it last Friday. The replacement phone is set up identically, but my battery life is much worse. I have yet to hit 4 hours SOT, with my max being around 3. On the old one I always got at least 4. In battery usage, Android System is at the top of the list, and CPU total is 6.5hr out of the 12 it's been off the charger. Nothing has changed so I have no idea why this would be. Is there a fix for this? Has anyone else had this issue with their replacement?

GoogleAndroid said:
So, my first Note 7 was great. I had none of the reported lag or battery life/battery drain problems. I replaced it last Friday. The replacement phone is set up identically, but my battery life is much worse. I have yet to hit 4 hours SOT, with my max being around 3. On the old one I always got at least 4. In battery usage, Android System is at the top of the list, and CPU total is 6.5hr out of the 12 it's been off the charger. Nothing has changed so I have no idea why this would be. Is there a fix for this? Has anyone else had this issue with their replacement?
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Unfortunately, it's a wide spread issue. Many people are reporting battery issues, such as drain and slower charging. All signs are pointing to these new batteries being jank. Either that, or built in software changes in the firmware to intentionally neuter battery performance for safety measures.

I am having the same issue bad battery drain.
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I had horrible battery with my first one and more of the same with this new one. I get through my 8hr day at work with 20-15% left and just a Lil over 1hr screen time. Always android system and android os keeping the cpu going.
I disabled just about all Samsung bloat except Knox and ant services. Gonna see how it goes tomorrow.

MvP77 said:
I had horrible battery with my first one and more of the same with this new one. I get through my 8hr day at work with 20-15% left and just a Lil over 1hr screen time. Always android system and android os keeping the cpu going.
I disabled just about all Samsung bloat except Knox and ant services. Gonna see how it goes tomorrow.
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Let me know how it goes. With my original phone I was getting the best battery life I've ever gotten from a phone (the Nexus 6 previously held that title). Very disappointed that the replacement doesn't last like the original.

same for me... any reason known ?

My fast charging seems to not be working, at least I don't think so. Worked perfect on my v1 note 7. Now, no lie it's charges quicker with fast charging turned off. Found that strange. And my battery life is horrible cause I'm always on my phone so nothing weird there lol

Not sure if this will be relevant for anyone else:
I found in another thread (that I cannot find for the life of me now...) some talk about an issue with Oculus Home eating up a lot of resource while attempting to install itself, failing and continuously retrying. I thought my phone was broken. I went from full to 20% in 5 hours extremely warm the entire time, typing in any app was painful. It prevented the gear fit 2 plugin from updating causing all sorts of weirdness with S health and my gear fit 2. So much so that I called Samsung tech support for the first time (great btw).
I got rid of everything Oculus related on my phone and now it feels brand new.
That app was like cancer it seems

Futant said:
Not sure if this will be relevant for anyone else:
I found in another thread (that I cannot find for the life of me now...) some talk about an issue with Oculus Home eating up a lot of resource while attempting to install itself, failing and continuously retrying. I thought my phone was broken. I went from full to 20% in 5 hours extremely warm the entire time, typing in any app was painful. It prevented the gear fit 2 plugin from updating causing all sorts of weirdness with S health and my gear fit 2. So much so that I called Samsung tech support for the first time (great btw).
I got rid of everything Oculus related on my phone and now it feels brand new.
That app was like cancer it seems
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Yea the last oculus update destroyed the app. I hope they get it fixed soon.
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/30/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-battery-drain-oculus/

GoogleAndroid said:
Let me know how it goes. With my original phone I was getting the best battery life I've ever gotten from a phone (the Nexus 6 previously held that title). Very disappointed that the replacement doesn't last like the original.
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Slightly better today so far but still horrible. Snapchat is killing the battery. I sent 2 snaps and looked at a couple stories.

I miss my ver. 1 battery life
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I swear I have a galaxy s6. This battery life is straight atrocious.

battery life

This was a full day of use after my first charge the night before.
Typical use...texting, emails, web browsing, twitter, insta, you tube....xda of course lol. Mostly after work as I had a client today so cant be on my phone much when that happens.
Mostly on wifi through the course of the day maybe 10% use on network where i dont get wifi at work.
Not bad at all Id say for first charge and a little better than what I typically see on my s8 plus or S7 edge.

force70 said:
This was a full day of use after my first charge the night before.
Typical use...texting, emails, web browsing, twitter, insta, you tube....xda of course lol. Mostly after work as I had a client today so cant be on my phone much when that happens.
Mostly on wifi through the course of the day maybe 10% use on network where i dont get wifi at work.
Not bad at all Id say for first charge and a little better than what I typically see on my s8 plus or S7 edge.
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is that a custom theme you're using?

This is my usage on the first discharge

cortez.i said:
is that a custom theme you're using?
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Yes but its from the theme store..
Its called blue streak....love it!
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Not bad.
Especially since 7.0 was really buggy and battery draining.
Nice to see Android system/os at about a third of screen for both of you. That's where it should be if there are no drain problems.

getting battery life comparable to the S8+ (now wifey's phone). this will easily get me through my high-usage days... does anyone know what size battery is in the N8?

cortez.i said:
getting battery life comparable to the S8+ (now wifey's phone). this will easily get me through my high-usage days... does anyone know what size battery is in the N8?
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Ive read 3300 mah a bunch of times but we dont know know what 100% yet
Sent from my Note 7 FE, S8+, S7 edge or S6

3200mah

Battery life after a month much better than my first Note 7. Easily gets me a busy day with one charge. A good sign for the Note8.

Battery life and SOT on pie.

I've been having horrible battery life on Pie. I started on a clean slate then restored through smart switch. I'm getting max 5 hours of SOT on pie whereas I always got 8+ hours on oreo. I don't know if it's just me or anyone else is experiencing the same. Please share your battery stats so we can average out the outcome. If this continues, I'm definitely odining back to oreo.
Thanks
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Got 10 hours this past weekend. Snapdragon.

Exynos. And it's awful
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6hrs consistently

Exynos

It looks bad Pie on exynos.Woaw!
I am Oreo.Not upgrade to Pie and my SOT is every day 7,8h SOT wifi and 4G.

therebel88 said:
Got 10 hours this past weekend. Snapdragon.
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Are you on T-mobile?
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nathlynn22 said:
Exynos
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Yours is pretty bad.
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K-alz said:
Are you on T-mobile?
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AT&T

therebel88 said:
AT&T
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Then it's only tmobile who's having the battery issue

Nope, I am At&t went back to Oreo. Wasn't getting anywhere close to the 8 to 10hr screen times as a see some have. Best I could get was about 5hrs..granted I would have about 6hrs call time which is ok I guess, but still Oreo was better for me. But then again I never let my battery drop below 20% and I usually only charge to 90%..I never let it get down to the single digits.
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K-alz said:
Then it's only tmobile who's having the battery issue
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I'm on T-Mo and have great battery life. 8-10 hours SOT. Mix of WiFi and LTE.
Actuakky I'd say an estimated 8-10 hours. I use the phone pretty heavy throughout the day. I'm on it for a couple hours after I wake up. Posting on here, reading my Bible app, checking the news, etc.
Then I go to the gym and stream music through Bluetooth for a couple hours. I usually check my phone occasionally and take calls while there.
Then I randomly get on it throughout the day and evening at home.
I average 1 hour of screen time per 10% of battery, but I haven't been able to kill the battery before bed to see the full 10 hours of SOT. And I charge over night. Though I have left it off the charger by accident and still woke up with a plenty of juice.
This phone is a beast that sips battery. And my Note 8 is doing just as well on Pie.
I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just saying something must be going on with your particular phone.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just saying something must be going on with your particular phone.
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Or possibly an app that is not Pie friendly.

Exynos, always almost max brightness QHD+ and 50/50 4G+/wifi, 512/8 version
First one is Oreo, others are pie

Sprov said:
Exynos, always almost max brightness QHD+ and 50/50 4G+/wifi, 512/8 version
First one is Oreo, others are pie
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Do you understand that you're more satisfied with Pie than with Oreo?

K-alz said:
I've been having horrible battery life on Pie. I started on a clean slate then restored through smart switch. I'm getting max 5 hours of SOT on pie whereas I always got 8+ hours on oreo. I don't know if it's just me or anyone else is experiencing the same. Please share your battery stats so we can average out the outcome. If this continues, I'm definitely odining back to oreo.
Thanks
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I'm getting 7hrs 40mins average SOT

Exynos the battery is quite good.
Dual sim always, location high + wifi scan when wifi off, max resolution on (WQHD+), no AOD
On 4G i get around 5 hours SOT and on WIFI around 6 SOT
Those that are getting 8hours+ probably sometimes they are using the phone in airplane mode with WIFI enabled or not at all and a lot other things that they do not mention so please do not take them as "normal" people because it's not fair what they are presenting and does not reflect a normal day to day user.

As some noted, depending on the usage - the battery life on pie is worse vs oreo. For me it's also worse as I multitask a lot. The SOC CPU control is tuned differently for more performance. Sadly, it's leading to worse battery life while still lags massively behind the snapdragon 845 in performance. Luckily - it's a little bit faster. This is the reason why most likely those reports about lower battery life on pie will come from mainly exynos note 9 owners.
For me and my usage, it's not massively lower, but surely it's noticeable lower usage before need for recharge vs oreo. It's still ok. I am not so ok with the gutted multiwindow functionality and the rushed/bugged state (and that's funny given how many months the PIE update was in development + the beta).

I also saw some recent tests of those with exynos and update Pie with Antutu around 260000 compared to the test made on Oreo around 244000. It sees the CPU and GPU increase and a consistent decrease to UX and MEM.

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Exynos the battery is quite good.
Dual sim always, location high + wifi scan when wifi off, max resolution on (WQHD+), no AOD
On 4G i get around 5 hours SOT and on WIFI around 6 SOT
Those that are getting 8hours+ probably sometimes they are using the phone in airplane mode with WIFI enabled or not at all and a lot other things that they do not mention so please do not take them as "normal" people because it's not fair what they are presenting and does not reflect a normal day to day user.
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Actually depends on the apps you're using, on wifi I got very high battery without airplane mode, which can make me go to 10 hrs of screen on

Question Panel Gap between Screen and Frame on a brand new S21 Ultra

Hi Guys,
I just purchased a brand new Galaxy S21 Ultra,
I am loving the phone, however I have noticed a gap between the screen and Body of the phone and I can slide a piece of paper through it.
(Pictures attached below)
I am deeply disappointed with this, is this normal?
I previously had the s7 and s9 and both had similar manufacturing flaws, it **bleep** to see that Samsung Quality control has still not changed over the years.
Is this a problem? Shall this affect the water resistance of the phone or is this normal?
Please help and give your feedbacks

I'm able to slide a paper in between the front and back glass and the frame too. I guess it's by design...? Never really noticed it in all these months till you pointed it out and frankly, even after seeing it now, it doesn't bother me. I guess some clearance is required between the brittle glass and the metal frame to prevent stress fractures of the glass when the frame deforms under stress, like @adamlee2012 said in his post.

adamlee2012 said:
Mine has gaps the same on the top on both corners. I think it's normal, it's to protect from impact, more likely to crack the glass if frame and glass are touching.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is true however I'm concerned regarding the water resistance?
I tried submerging my phone in a bucket of water for 10mins, other than the microphone which eventually started working after it dried out. Everything else seemed fine
But if this Is normal why is that other device may or may not have it?
enigmaamit said:
I'm able to slide a paper in between the front and back glass and the frame too. I guess it's by design...? Never really noticed it in all these months till you pointed it out and frankly, even after seeing it now, it doesn't bother me. I guess some clearance is required between the brittle glass and the metal frame to prevent stress fractures of the glass when the frame deforms under stress, like @adamlee2012 said in his post.
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That is true but shouldn't it be uniform then, why is that some parts have a wider gap than the others and if so isn't that a manufacturing defect after all?
Do you suggest to keep or return this device?

salvator101 said:
Thank you for your reply.
That is true however I'm concerned regarding the water resistance?
I tried submerging my phone in a bucket of water for 10mins, other than the microphone which eventually started working after it dried out. Everything else seemed fine
But if this Is normal why is that other device may or may not have it?
That is true but shouldn't it be uniform then, why is that some parts have a wider gap than the others and if so isn't that a manufacturing defect after all?
Do you suggest to keep or return this device?
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I'm not sure if this will be accepted by Samsung as a valid reason for replacement. But if you're unhappy, by all means try to get a replacement or refund. It's your money, and you should be fully satisfied with what you bought with it, especially for this kind of asking price.
If the gap is giving you sleepless nights, better to get it replaced, or refund to get another phone. If I were you, I'd leave it alone. But it's your decision.

enigmaamit said:
I'm not sure if this will be accepted by Samsung as a valid reason for replacement. But if you're unhappy, by all means try to get a replacement or refund. It's your money, and you should be fully satisfied with what you bought with it, especially for this kind of asking price.
If the gap is giving you sleepless nights, better to get it replaced, or refund to get another phone. If I were you, I'd leave it alone. But it's your decision.
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Well I purchased it off Amazon and I can return it for a refund, however the problem is due to the semi conductor chip shortage, there are no phones in stock, I had to wait for 2 months to get this device, now if I return it I don't know when the next one will come.
Also I am concerned that what if the replacement phone has wider gaps, I mean if this is normal and every device has it then it makes no sense to return it, am I right?
On a side note I found this statement from samsung

salvator101 said:
Hi Guys,
I just purchased a brand new Galaxy S21 Ultra,
I am loving the phone, however I have noticed a gap between the screen and Body of the phone and I can slide a piece of paper through it.
(Pictures attached below)
I am deeply disappointed with this, is this normal?
I previously had the s7 and s9 and both had similar manufacturing flaws, it **bleep** to see that Samsung Quality control has still not changed over the years.
Is this a problem? Shall this affect the water resistance of the phone or is this normal?
Please help and give your feedbacks
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Welcome to 4 years ago.

There is an app here in the s21U forum that checks the waterproofness of the device by asking you to press the screen hard so the app can check the internal pressure sensors.
It is made with the purpose of checking if the phones seals have worn out.
If yours is fine then you should probably just wear a case on the phone and move on

babyboy3265 said:
There is an app here in the s21U forum that checks the waterproofness of the device by asking you to press the screen hard so the app can check the internal pressure sensors.
It is made with the purpose of checking if the phones seals have worn out.
If yours is fine then you should probably just wear a case on the phone and move on
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I did use the app, it uses the barometer to gauge if the water seal is broken or not.
However I do not know how accurate it is.
My phone passed the test though

I don't have this gap on my S21U Silver.
Everything is like molded and glued together

salvator101 said:
I did use the app, it uses the barometer to gauge if the water seal is broken or not.
However I do not know how accurate it is.
My phone passed the test though
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Well you already submerged the phone into water for 10 mins and all was fine so I see no reason to worry. The test must be accurate.
Honestly, given how tough it is to get a phone like that today, best case is to just put a cover on it and forget about the gap.
Unless you wanna try and go to the seller and ask for a new pone and see what they have to say. Soon new, or not...?

Nat.smith26 said:
I don't have this gap on my S21U Silver.
Everything is like molded and glued together
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Are you certain there is no gap at all on any of the sides?
babyboy3265 said:
Well you already submerged the phone into water for 10 mins and all was fine so I see no reason to worry. The test must be accurate.
Honestly, given how tough it is to get a phone like that today, best case is to just put a cover on it and forget about the gap.
Unless you wanna try and go to the seller and ask for a new pone and see what they have to say. Soon new, or not...?
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That is true.
I purchased it from Amazon and I gave only return it for a refund as they do not have any stock for a replacement, I waited for this phone itself for 1 month or so.
Also the phone is heating a lot and the battery life sucks. I have the Exynos variant. The ideal temperature is 35-38*C with some camera usage it goes up to 45 *C. Don't know if that's normal or what
My battery is showing learning usage pattern and it's on day 3.
So I'm really confused

salvator101 said:
Are you certain there is no gap at all on any of the sides?
That is true.
I purchased it from Amazon and I gave only return it for a refund as they do not have any stock for a replacement, I waited for this phone itself for 1 month or so.
Also the phone is heating a lot and the battery life sucks. I have the Exynos variant. The ideal temperature is 35-38*C with some camera usage it goes up to 45 *C. Don't know if that's normal or what
My battery is showing learning usage pattern and it's on day 3.
So I'm really confused
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If you can get a refund for it then that's not bad. Don't know where you live but it might be best to consider buying it locally if it exists in any shop near you.
I also got the exynos. The heating was present at 1st but eventually it stopped. After the usage was calibrated. And on the latest update with plenty of bloatware removed as per Ketan Rom.
Cemera heating up a bit is normal. If it really overheats and it starts being unresponsive that's a problem. Also if you are recording a video in hot weather that's a guaranteed HOT phone. It's happening for everyone and it is normal.

babyboy3265 said:
If you can get a refund for it then that's not bad. Don't know where you live but it might be best to consider buying it locally if it exists in any shop near you.
I also got the exynos. The heating was present at 1st but eventually it stopped. After the usage was calibrated. And on the latest update with plenty of bloatware removed as per Ketan Rom.
Cemera heating up a bit is normal. If it really overheats and it starts being unresponsive that's a problem. Also if you are recording a video in hot weather that's a guaranteed HOT phone. It's happening for everyone and it is normal.
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Hey thanks for the swift reply.
I live in India, the only feasible and best way to purchase it is via Amazon as they have a return period of 7 days if I purchase it from Samsung or any other local shop, there return period is max 24 hours which sucks.
I love the phone, love everything about it and especially now with the new iPhone out, I can still say that this crushes it, there is no other viable contender for it out there.
I can get it refunded and wait for the next bunch of stock, perhaps that might take another 10-15 days or a month due to the semi conductor shortage issue otherwise I can just keep this phone and use it however it pisses me off that inspire of paying 1200$ for it. There are such manufacturing flaw.
Also I forgot to ask and You didn't mention, does your phone have similar gaps where you can slide a piece of paper with ease?

salvator101 said:
Hey thanks for the swift reply.
I live in India, the only feasible and best way to purchase it is via Amazon as they have a return period of 7 days if I purchase it from Samsung or any other local shop, there return period is max 24 hours which sucks.
I love the phone, love everything about it and especially now with the new iPhone out, I can still say that this crushes it, there is no other viable contender for it out there.
I can get it refunded and wait for the next bunch of stock, perhaps that might take another 10-15 days or a month due to the semi conductor shortage issue otherwise I can just keep this phone and use it however it pisses me off that inspire of paying 1200$ for it. There are such manufacturing flaw.
Also I forgot to ask and You didn't mention, does your phone have similar gaps where you can slide a piece of paper with ease?
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It is an annoying situation indeed... Mine doesn't have the gaps, no. It is the silver exynos 256gb.
I'd say this is a rare issue and getting another phone would 99.9% be gapless... 24h is enough to test it throughly as well, so... Definitely consider it.
It also beats the new iPhone and that's a fact.

Lolz

babyboy3265 said:
It is an annoying situation indeed... Mine doesn't have the gaps, no. It is the silver exynos 256gb.
I'd say this is a rare issue and getting another phone would 99.9% be gapless... 24h is enough to test it throughly as well, so... Definitely consider it.
It also beats the new iPhone and that's a fact.
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Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half

salvator101 said:
Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
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I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT with one and a half days of mixed usage. All features of the phone enabled. I'm happy with it.
There are users on XDA who've reported 8-10 hours of SOT but I've never been able to achieve that routinely. I have managed to reach 8hrs of SOT a couple of times, but I had to disable 4G, use only wifi, disable background sync, not use my Galaxy Watch, not open any app that used camera, stay in dark mode with low screen brightness, automatic brightness disabled etc etc to achieve that.
I didn't like the experience so decided to use the phone to it's fullest capability and forget about SOT as long as I got through to my bedtime.
I used to feel envious of these people initially, wondering why my phone didn't get insane SOT but after a few months of using this phone, I just don't care anymore, as I get to the end of my typical day with half the battery remaining.
Everyone has a different usage pattern, so battery life can vary wildly. If you're unhappy, you can try to disable some features, try debloating etc to try to improve it and see how it goes for you

salvator101 said:
Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
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100% what the above comment said.
I also can get about 6h sot with everything enabled including AOD. I spare nothing and 5-6h SOT is more than enough.
It easily lasts a day and that does it for me.
All the people showing how they got 8h+ SOT are basically using the phone at a very limited capacity. Lowering everything to show others how much SOT u got, is similar to cheating in a game. It's not realistic.
Your s21u is better than anything else u even had n the past. it is okay that the SOT is less than some other phones, they don't have what ur phone has.
So enjoy and don't overthink it.

enigmaamit said:
I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT with one and a half days of mixed usage. All features of the phone enabled. I'm happy with it.
There are users on XDA who've reported 8-10 hours of SOT but I've never been able to achieve that routinely. I have managed to reach 8hrs of SOT a couple of times, but I had to disable 4G, use only wifi, disable background sync, not use my Galaxy Watch, not open any app that used camera, stay in dark mode with low screen brightness, automatic brightness disabled etc etc to achieve that.
I didn't like the experience so decided to use the phone to it's fullest capability and forget about SOT as long as I got through to my bedtime.
I used to feel envious of these people initially, wondering why my phone didn't get insane SOT but after a few months of using this phone, I just don't care anymore, as I get to the end of my typical day with half the battery remaining.
Everyone has a different usage pattern, so battery life can vary wildly. If you're unhappy, you can try to disable some features, try debloating etc to try to improve it and see how it goes for you
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babyboy3265 said:
100% what the above comment said.
I also can get about 6h sot with everything enabled including AOD. I spare nothing and 5-6h SOT is more than enough.
It easily lasts a day and that does it for me.
All the people showing how they got 8h+ SOT are basically using the phone at a very limited capacity. Lowering everything to show others how much SOT u got, is similar to cheating in a game. It's not realistic.
Your s21u is better than anything else u even had n the past. it is okay that the SOT is less than some other phones, they don't have what ur phone has.
So enjoy and don't overthink it.
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I get 5.5hrs max of SOT with screen on QHD+ 120hz enabled, wifi connected and galaxy watch connected. I have been trying to limit background apps an so but can't survive for more than 5.5hrs.
Max my phone lasts is for 18-19hrs with 5.5hrs of SOT.
I have gone through several reviews of people claiming 8hrs+
I don't even have heavy usage, all I use is WhatsApp, YouTube and chrome and a bit of Facebook.
Considering how light the usage is surely the battery life sucks?
As enigmaamit above also said that he has mixed usage and still gets 6+ hrs and mine is light usage and it still struggles so I wonder is this normal?

salvator101 said:
I get 5.5hrs max of SOT with screen on QHD+ 120hz enabled, wifi connected and galaxy watch connected. I have been trying to limit background apps an so but can't survive for more than 5.5hrs.
Max my phone lasts is for 18-19hrs with 5.5hrs of SOT.
I have gone through several reviews of people claiming 8hrs+
I don't even have heavy usage, all I use is WhatsApp, YouTube and chrome and a bit of Facebook.
Considering how light the usage is surely the battery life sucks?
As enigmaamit above also said that he has mixed usage and still gets 6+ hrs and mine is light usage and it still struggles so I wonder is this normal?
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There are too many variables into the equation...
FB uses plenty of battery for one.
Two, maybe where you are, your phone isn't catching great signal. usually when that happens, it drains the battery as the device is constantly trying to get better signal.
Maybe since you are not rooted you have plenty of bloatware that is draining your battery.
Additionally, putting usused apps to sleep, adaptive battery being ON, and also maybe you are using white mode instead of dark mode. Dark mode saves plenty of battery on our amoled screens.
Also I am rooted. So no bloatware. Battery fully calibrated. No draining apps. I use FB trough my KIWI browser with dark mode on for all pages.
If you get a full day, you are good.