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Why is samsung so SLOW with Android 6.0 update?

Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.

Derpling said:
Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Because Samsung has touchwiz and has to make it perfectly compatible. Takes a while.

That's not an excuse, HTC M9 getting 6.0 tommorow and A9 getting 6.0.1, G4 already getting 6 and G3 started to get it today... Samsung is soo late only now they releasing beta 6.0 to certain GS6 devices.

Yes, it IS an excuse. It is just one that you don't like.
Samsung is updating at the speed they want. I would fully bet that they were intentionally waiting for 6.0.1, as 6.0.0 likely had some issues they wanted to see fixed.
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I hope it's true and they learnt from their mistakes, i remember a lot of GS5 users complained about lollipop more than usually, same with 4.3 that was one of the worst updates sammy ever made.

For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.

dtaylorr said:
For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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That's i hope, the reason for beta testing and delays.

Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16

You are 100% guessing, not 100% sure... Lol
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manishvy said:
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
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If that would happen, that could backfire so fast specially since 6.0 was released to all other devices. heck G3 and GS5 released same year, yet G3 already getting android 6.0, idk if galaxy s5 will get it, and if it will probably Q2 2016... Samsung support is lacking and need to be changed, but since they beta testing android 6.0 now, i hope they won't use it as an excuse to "delay" it to until GS7 launches.

It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.

They can split the updates to two parts, the main Android 6.0 base update without updating the minor stuff like s health, themes, and just make S Pen compatible, then after short while release a package of updates android 6.0 updates, idk if it possible, but sure as hell Samsung could be faster, again if they put 6.0.1 with as little to no bugs, then i prefer it over rushed release.

why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...

umbrokhan said:
why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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They are for the s6 and edge+(UK and south korea). We'll see it in due time.

They must extend it to Note 5 at least.

Derpling said:
They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.

umbrokhan said:
maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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It's not going to happen

dr.ketan said:
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
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I think this time a little bit different. They seem want to improve their Rom quality, do it more carefully. Years ago I realize that Sam S series always be first to update because they are flagship and almost no special features like Note series. Absolutely I agree with you about Sam Roms are very different to HTC, LG.
But as Note 4 users, I was very angry about their update: no theme, no new features, no change on S Pen function, quite bad battery life.
Anyway, Samsung as most profitable Android OEM, have to change some points, do something better about update and Rom. We pay more, they do more better!

If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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Lancerz said:
If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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I want 5.5-5.7" phone. Nexus 6 and 6P fit need but their battery life not so good. Note 5 just enough for me fullday usage only after extreme optimized/tweaked.

TWRP

Anyone work atm on a port of TWRP for Note 8? I cannot wait anymore for a custom rom hehe

Can we use the twrp from S8??
I think its the same hardware. Only more RAM.

Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?

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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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Huh? Why would that be? I haven't had a note for a while but had twrp and root on my note 4, spen worked perfectly and saw daily use.
Edit: oh I see what you mean. You mean ported version from the s8 right?

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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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TWRP is a recovery image and a direct S8 TWRP port wouldn't affect the operating skin, so no S-Pen functionality would be lost.

But twrp don't give root.. I say let start a bounty

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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.

Torquemada288 said:
I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.
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I guess I've just been relatively happy with touch wiz so I never considered going that route. The last phone I ran a diff OS on was the n3 or n4.
My only complaints would be I'd like to be able to download torrents right to the sd card, and for them to fix the vpn bug.

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I guess I've just been relatively happy with touch wiz so I never considered going that route. The last phone I ran a diff OS on was the n3 or n4.
My only complaints would be I'd like to be able to download torrents right to the sd card, and for them to fix the vpn bug.
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If the stock software suits you, that's all good. But you have to understand that it doesn't suit everyone and many people want to have more control over how their device looks and behaves based on their needs and personal preferences.
I'll probably keep my Note 8 stock until I either get fed up with TouchWiz or some fancy custom ROM catches my eye, but even then, I'll probably root it and install TWRP as soon as the opportunity arrives.

Torquemada288 said:
I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.
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Torquemada288 said:
If the stock software suits you, that's all good. But you have to understand that it doesn't suit everyone and many people want to have more control over how their device looks and behaves based on their needs and personal preferences.
I'll probably keep my Note 8 stock until I either get fed up with TouchWiz or some fancy custom ROM catches my eye, but even then, I'll probably root it and install TWRP as soon as the opportunity arrives.
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Your absolutely right. This is one of those moments when I commented without anything of substance to add. My bad, carry on gents lol.

How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.

Death-Dealer said:
How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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I'm getting the international Note 8, so I'll be having all the modding fun.

Death-Dealer said:
How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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I could not agree more. Every new phone I buy I don't expect a BL unlock. Especially Samsung. I expect someone will come up with a root method for the Note 8 eventually but if not, I'm still happy with my Note 8. I still have my unlocked Pixel XL to play with for ROM testing etc. I just wish Samsung would push Oreo out. I was in the beta and I think Oreo is much better than Nougat. I know it will likely be a month or more before we see it on the Note 8.

Death-Dealer said:
How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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Why locked... I use the exynos version? crapdragon US version is locked, but with the F exynos version, bootloader is open and no problem to install TWRP / Custom rom so far^^

TWRP should be literally around the corner. Release date is this week, so TWRP and ROOT should be very close. ONLY FOR N950F and N950FD versions, EXYNOS. Snapdragon or USA or Canada variants are out of luck, just like the S8 snapdragons.

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TWRP should be literally around the corner. Release date is this week, so TWRP and ROOT should be very close. ONLY FOR N950F and N950FD versions, EXYNOS. Snapdragon or USA or Canada variants are out of luck, just like the S8 snapdragons.
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This sound great. Many thanks for your info.
Do you have a link there we can check the availability of TWRP and/or Root for N950F/FD?
Or can you post an update here then it is available?

maverickluke said:
This sound great. Many thanks for your info.
Do you have a link there we can check the availability of TWRP and/or Root for N950F/FD?
Or can you post an update here then it is available?
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Wait 4 thread in Rom development hope twrp comes soon

Every phone I have had with a locked boot loader has gotten root eventually. Someone will get it running. Be patient the phone has not even official been released.
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What about my 950N? I'd hope that development for the European models would work on all the Exynos variants...

Bushido1992 said:
Why locked... I use the exynos version? crapdragon US version is locked, but with the F exynos version, bootloader is open and no problem to install TWRP / Custom rom so far^^
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Well im on Sprint, and I'm not stupid enough to spend $1000+ on a phone I can't get insurance on and switch carriers too. Voiding warranty I can care less about cause I always rooted n romed right away, but no insurance......hell no. Root will be good enough when it eventually comes long. Also I like SD chips over Exynos anyways. What we need is more of the old school devs back. The Chad Goodman's of xda. I wish Samsung would offer an unlock code that we would agree voiding warranty too like HTC did before.

I want Android Oreo NOW Today

I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users
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Oreo for note 8 just became available as a beta system. I'm running it on my note 8 right now for sprint variant. Search through this thread and you should find it. Oh and also it's only for the snapdragon variants.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...w-to-install-android-oreo-snapdragon-t3716281

Entitled are we? ?

You sound like the little entitled girl from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory...

Lol hahahaha

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PRO23 said:
I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! WTF? why the hell S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users. ****.
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Patience is a virtue! I guess you are not virtuous enough!
No, in all seriousness, I would prefer to wait and get a good, stable and worthwhile Oreo than a half baked one ... it's not as is it's going to turn the phone into a brand new one!
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OP let me sum up the Samsung experience for you: great hardware , camera and unbeatable, addictive software features. Not the fastest or smoothest UI and your updates will lag 4-6 months behind Android.
Learn this and live with it.

PRO23 said:
I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! WTF? why the hell S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users. ****.
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Oh please: stop whining!
1st of all: S8-users (the most of them, NOT in BETA) DON'T have Oreo either (yet)...
For the Note8 (Snapdragon-version), a "test-version Oreo" has leaked already...
But: what do you want? An UNSTABLE test/beta-version, or a STABLE version later?
Do you have "problems" now with your Note8? You can't "CALL" and/or "APP" anymore?
Have patience...
And if you want to have all updates/upgrades "instantly", you should have bought a Pixel!

PRO23 said:
I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! WTF? why the hell S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users. ****.
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Only some Sony and Nokia device have Oreo atm and the Google phones of course. So stop whining and wait and see will get it in 4 to 6 weeks. If you can't sell your phone and buy a phone that comes with Oreo.

If you want to whinge then come over here to Australia... We have a version of android that has to be edited before release to remove icons Apple have copyrighted (don't get me started on that). That puts it out weeks to months after everywhere else gets it, and if you have a carrier phone you may not get it at all....
We can stamp our feet and scream out "We want it now" but it really doesn't matter... Be thankful you get it so damn early...

robmeik said:
Patience is a virtue! I guess you are not virtuous enough!
No, in all seriousness, I would prefer to wait and get a good, stable and worthwhile Oreo than a half baked one ... it's not as is it's going to turn the phone into a brand new one!
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I tried it. It is half-baked, and to be honest, there are not that many differences. I switched back to nougat as it wouldn't play nice with my gear S3. I'm waiting for official. It shouldn't be too long now.

And this thread is closed as it is going nowhere fast

Will our Note 8 get some S9 Features?

Ok we obviously won't get any hardware-dependent features, but we should get the new camera interface / live text translation / split-screen app shortcuts etc, right?

Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Ideally those features should come with the Oreo update of Note 8. Can't see any other logical reason for delaying the update of their current flagship as most of these tweaks require dual camera which s8 or + dont have thus they just released the oreo without that. But, they cannot release the new features on Note 8 before they show it off in S9. Thus the hold up in the update. Releasing a Oreo update for Note 8 without those features and then again releasing one more later with the update is too much work thus they must have skipped the former.

Dejan Sathanas said:
Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.

Dejan Sathanas said:
Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all

sefrcoko said:
There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all
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I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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Dejan Sathanas said:
I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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You're not the "XDA police" so stop acting like you're superior to the rest of the people posting here. You're in the questions and answers sections, this post and your previous ones aren't helping and are annoying. All you do is post some stupid sarcastic comment to try and make the previous poster feel like an idiot instead of actually helping them.

Aremoji should work because there doesn't seem to be any hardware limitation

After the s9 sales well yes the note 8 will get key features as for anytime soon no forget it

Hopefully we at least see Oreo soon. I'm still salty because Samsung just cut the Samsung Pay reward points in half....

We will see (I hope) many good things when Oreo hits the note 8, I can not say that features from s9+, but hey! They belong to a different series, I bought my note 8 for what it is and the features it offered from day one, so, anything else would be a very welcome bonus, that is why I do not complain or whine about oreo still not coming, I like my device as I bought it, that is why I chose it, that`s it.

i did saw the live launch yesterday and they displayed for a few seconds that the S8/S8+/Note 8 is AR capable
so lets see if Oreo update will allow us to have S9 AR capable camera features

Honestly I doubt it unless 3rd party ports them. They're running out of ideas for new upgrades it's obvious and to port new software features to older phones isn't the best marketing move. That's just my opinion.
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S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note8 .

Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
"S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note 8 ."
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I suppose a root will be necessary ? Thanks.

s9 features? in fact there is doubt if we would have oreo or not

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Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
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your first mistake was expecting fast update from Sammy. they are known for their obscene late updates and if im not wrong, the current price of the Note 8 is already pretty low before S9 even hit.
i was even thinking of rooting but thx to Substratum especially the font addons. again, i maybe wrong, cause i do shot video at 60fps, rooting may very well kill that feature. yeah, there is rooted stock rom but i root for flashing purer rom if theres such word and therein lies the problem, no more 60fps!

Anyone who expects S9 features to be present in the Note 8 rom must be smoking something illegal...
Where in the world is the economic sense to supply these features in their next phone if owners of older phones have it already?
Why would you update your hardware if you are already running most of the improvements?
We'll probably get a slightly beefed up version of Oreo that the S8 and S8+ got and won't see any of the S9 features until 6 months after the S9's and S9+'s relaese. There's no money in it for Samsung...

My view on major updates is mixed. Monthly security updates are in my view mandatory and Samsung continues to offer those down to the S6.
Major OS updates can yield mixed performance and stability results when applied to older hardware. Further, the advances from say Nougat to Oreo- range from significant (Treble (which the 8 series will not get with Android 8.0), better battery life, notifications, etc ) to cosmetic.
Samsung Experience new version tweaks seem even less important. I can live without new emojis for example.
I think the bottom line is that with Oreo and Project Treble, Samsung and others should be able to churn out faster and more reliable updates. The issue pre Oreo was more on Androids limitations and less on Samsung's intransigence. That said, the omission of Treble from the 8 series Oreo updates is troubling. Maybe this will come with 8.1.

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Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.
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No Samsung won't be releasing any of the s9 features for note 8 as it would cripple the s9 sales and the note 9.
They only did that with the note 5 when note 7 was recalled as a apology of some sort.
The XDA devs on the other hand are know to to port stuff somewhere down the line but sadly we don't ha e that many devs for note 8 yet as we did for previous notes such as note 3 and 4.
Hopefully more devs will buy note 8 when note 9 is released when price falls.

The Mate 10 will be my last Huawei phone...

No more unlocked bootloader for you...
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-bootloader-unlocking-869169/

Will be my last too, but more likely due to their update priorities. We pay flagship prices but all promises made at the keynote forgotten, sad.

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......, but more likely due to their update priorities. We pay flagship prices but all promises made at the keynote forgotten, sad.
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Beside Pixel and other Phones running stock Android who is doing better???? .....ok, Apple :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Samsung :highfive:
LG
HTC
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and from my persepective it would be hard to find any phone that performance and quality wise would come even close to the Mate's.....
...maybe Treble will provide some improvments but even this is quite doubtfull.

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Beside Pixel and other Phones running stock Android who is doing better???? .....ok, Apple :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Samsung :highfive:
LG
HTC
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and from my persepective it would be hard to find any phone that performance and quality wise would come even close to the Mate's.....
...maybe Treble will provide some improvments but even this is quite doubtfull.
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Just because nobody is doing it better does not make it ok.

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Just because nobody is doing it better does not make it ok.
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sure...but what would be the alternative...in case nobody is doing it better, you can stay with Huawei and enjoy the great phones....

i had mate 10 pro.They ****ed up something with the bootoader,there is at least 20 people who broke their device since a month ago while rebranding the phone to another region,all of a sudden from that week they closed bootloader unlocking page ? and now they say they never going to open,really i was happy with my phone but paying 1000$ to get a complete brick after no reason is real bull****.and its not solvable by the way.
I think they somehow made bootloader partition read only or something.and our devices cant be revived with any tool at the moment.im really mad for this nonsense.i even mailled them,write on reddit but no ones care untill their device is broken too

I have the non-pro Mate 10. It may very well be my last Huawei phone...but I will say this....it is, by far, the best phone available that ticks all the boxes for me right now.

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i had mate 10 pro.They ****ed up something with the bootoader,there is at least 20 people who broke their device since a month ago while rebranding the phone to another region,all of a sudden from that week they closed bootloader unlocking page ? and now they say they never going to open,really i was happy with my phone but paying 1000$ to get a complete brick after no reason is real bull****.and its not solvable by the way.
I think they somehow made bootloader partition read only or something.and our devices cant be revived with any tool at the moment.im really mad for this nonsense.i even mailled them,write on reddit but no ones care untill their device is broken too
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Well, you are not supposed to flash unapproved firmwares, so Huawei isn't responsible for that.
And complaining to them about that, would most likely do more damage than good.
When we unlock the bootloader and install stuff like that, we have to assume the risk and responsibility.
I know that in some cases, they replaced the device under warranty, but i doubt that those users told Huawei the whole story! ?

I will sell my Mate in few days.

mate 10 pro will be my only and last Huawei phone. ordered the u12+ and then going to sell the mate

jaseman said:
I have the non-pro Mate 10. It may very well be my last Huawei phone...but I will say this....it is, by far, the best phone available that ticks all the boxes for me right now.
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This. Exactly.

Well... Wrong... I owned the following devices : LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, HTC 10, Galaxy S7, Oneplus 3T, Galaxy S8 and now Mate 10 Pro. I can say that exept the camera this is by far the best phone yet. LG and Samsung are far behind with updates, HTC just simply sucks, OnePlus sucks on support and accesories (in East Europe at least). Battery life on this phone is just amazing, screen quality ok, call quality ok, build quality ok, updates better than Samsung or LG. In my opinion all phones are crap and all have bugs or problems.

mioss said:
Well... Wrong... I owned the following devices : LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, HTC 10, Galaxy S7, Oneplus 3T, Galaxy S8 and now Mate 10 Pro. I can say that exept the camera this is by far the best phone yet. LG and Samsung are far behind with updates, HTC just simply sucks, OnePlus sucks on support and accesories (in East Europe at least). Battery life on this phone is just amazing, screen quality ok, call quality ok, build quality ok, updates better than Samsung or LG. In my opinion all phones are crap and all have bugs or problems.
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I agree 100%, everyone has ups and downs, however Mate 10 definitely made an impact as my daily driver, I used Sony, Samsung, and iPhone in the past and got frustrated with limitation in daily use --- battery and usability.

This is likely my first and last Huawei phone unless they change the way updates are delivered. Maybe Googles Android P Mandate will make Huawei change the way they deliver updates requiring monthly security updates.
As a daily driver it is a great phone. The support is the only thing keeping it down. Face Unlock took way too long to come out for a flagship phone. Lesser phones getting Higher Android versions are also concerning.
Nokia is showing their care very much about support on their phones. And they are on the top of my list for my next phone.

flyingjack said:
sure...but what would be the alternative...in case nobody is doing it better, you can stay with Huawei and enjoy the great phones....
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RabidWolve said:
This is likely my first and last Huawei phone unless they change the way updates are delivered. Maybe Googles Android P Mandate will make Huawei change the way they deliver updates requiring monthly security updates.
As a daily driver it is a great phone. The support is the only thing keeping it down. Face Unlock took way too long to come out for a flagship phone. Lesser phones getting Higher Android versions are also concerning.
Nokia is showing their care very much about support on their phones. And they are on the top of my list for my next phone.
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Hmm my Mate 9 got updated to Oreo long (months) before the S7 , S8 and LG G6
I kept my mate 9 when I got my mate 10... And both are on the April security updates. Both supposedly support treble
I also have a xiaomi mi mix 2 on the April update
So on the second day in June..... What non Google pixel phone are you going to switch to so that you can get more timely updates?
Let me know so that I can switch as well
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Ukiya8 said:
I agree 100%, everyone has ups and downs, however Mate 10 definitely made an impact as my daily driver, I used Sony, Samsung, and iPhone in the past and got frustrated with limitation in daily use --- battery and usability.
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You two are against the grain of this board
I've even seen a poster saying that his S5 took far better pictures than the mate 10
I've been on xda since I first flashed my Samsung omnia in 2008... And this mate 10 board is truly something different to me
I'm happy with my Mate 10 (non pro)... The ai stabilization night shot is already on FF for the Chinese mate 10... So hopefully we get it in a month or two
Btw
I have a C605 mate 10
And a C636 mate 9
Never had any issues getting updates
And now it seems that you get access the update through the stock updater as soon as it's approved
My only real complaints are that:
Even at beauty = 0.. there's still something going on... However it's not a deal breaker
I wish all brands used the OnePlus method of delivering updates... So that a free VPN would be all you need to trigger the update
If Huawei won't realise the official blobs.. then I can do without the bootloader unlock for now
Devs are mostly on snapdragon devices
I actually bought the mi mix 2 so that I could install custom ROMs (cheapest snapdragon 835 I could find).... But the phone is sooooo smooth... That I just installed Nova launcher and I have been using it like that
Smoothest Android device that I've ever used
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Added screenshot of 5.31.18 Chinese mate 10 changeling from FF

Is this a joke? This subforum is just laughable, I usually lurk here for anything new and interesting, instead however I see most of the time is someone complaining about the phone not getting timely updates, "ugh, this is my last Huawei phone" "I hate how slow these updates are rolling out compare to others" "Where is my update, and why does this _____ region have this update but I dont?"
THIS is all I see here being posted whether its a new post or someone making comments on an already existing post. What has this turned into? "Lets complain about Huawei and crappy their support is subforum"?
Like the dude above me, I have been here since 2008 and this is by far probably on par with the Mate 9 subforum here on XDA the worst. No offense but damn!
You want updates in a timely manner? Get a Pixel
You want extensive ROM/Kernel developement with big support? Get a Snapdragon phone.
Simple as that, yeah sucks Huawei is going to shut down its bootloader unlocking service but thats reality and it might be for the better anyways. Yes this is XDA risk are taken but...(Think from Huawei's stand point)
Honestly I could CARE LESS about it. These phones were excellent from the start, I have no complaints whatsoever. Huawei out did themselves in terms of delivering a phone for performance and battery out of the box both 10s and the 9.
I see this more as a daily driver phone, not a phone a flash junkie can have fun with. People making threats saying "Oh im switching out for this _____ phone because of the amount of support and updates it gets" or "I regret getting this phone, support and updates are horrible" Um ok? Cool man as if that'll make a change anywhere, my thing is this, why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
Face unlock update? Dont care about it as much, if I receive it cool.
Not trying to offend everyone here, only those that seem to be impatient and think that we should be getting the latest updates in such quick time frame. Yeah yeah sure you paid premium prices and you expect the world? Not every company is the same, should have done your research if youre really after custom ROM development

Even SD device ain't a guarantee that you'll have community room support, just look at Sony. It is what it is. I bought this device cuz of battery and big amoled screen(un notched) and Huawei delivered. Yeah it got it's flaws but every phone has. As long they don't override pros it's a good purchase....and I'll sure be looking into Mate 20 if they keep the same philosophy as with predecessors.

Limited ROMS on this device and they wanted to lock the bootloader for good. Lol, I'm about to do a clean swap for Oneplus5t, think it will be worth it?

XERO_Racer said:
Is this a joke? This subforum is just laughable, I usually lurk here for anything new and interesting, instead however I see most of the time is someone complaining about the phone not getting timely updates, "ugh, this is my last Huawei phone" "I hate how slow these updates are rolling out compare to others" "Where is my update, and why does this _____ region have this update but I dont?"
THIS is all I see here being posted whether its a new post or someone making comments on an already existing post. What has this turned into? "Lets complain about Huawei and crappy their support is subforum"?
Like the dude above me, I have been here since 2008 and this is by far probably on par with the Mate 9 subforum here on XDA the worst. No offense but damn!
You want updates in a timely manner? Get a Pixel
You want extensive ROM/Kernel developement with big support? Get a Snapdragon phone.
Simple as that, yeah sucks Huawei is going to shut down its bootloader unlocking service but thats reality and it might be for the better anyways. Yes this is XDA risk are taken but...(Think from Huawei's stand point)
Honestly I could CARE LESS about it. These phones were excellent from the start, I have no complaints whatsoever. Huawei out did themselves in terms of delivering a phone for performance and battery out of the box both 10s and the 9.
I see this more as a daily driver phone, not a phone a flash junkie can have fun with. People making threats saying "Oh im switching out for this _____ phone because of the amount of support and updates it gets" or "I regret getting this phone, support and updates are horrible" Um ok? Cool man as if that'll make a change anywhere, my thing is this, why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
Face unlock update? Dont care about it as much, if I receive it cool.
Not trying to offend everyone here, only those that seem to be impatient and think that we should be getting the latest updates in such quick time frame. Yeah yeah sure you paid premium prices and you expect the world? Not every company is the same, should have done your research if youre really after custom ROM development
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So why this device on here ? on XDA forum. There are lots of devices who doesnt have forum thread, so lets put out Mate 10 PRO, if nobody need updates or custom roms or ......

XERO_Racer said:
why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
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It's trash! I bought a Note 4, years ago and I don't use it, because CyanogenMod was not ready. Samsung is today much better but still trash.
If somebody ask me now "yo, get Lineage OS but lose warranty?" I will instant flash Lineage OS, because EMUI is just a copy of the old MIUI, with bug's and ugly interface.
So, in future no more Huawei, just Xiaomi, Android One (Nokia) and OnePlus. Pixel never, because no dual SIM.