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Very curious to see if pebble (or maybe rebble) will be able to run in sailfish, either with the android layer or this: https://github.com/abranson/rockpool

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[Q] raspberry pi with android

hi guys looking for android os thats runs on raspberry pi please..
None, that are usable
Why do you want to install Android on the Raspberry Pi ? There are a lot of applications that works well on the Raspberry Pi.
However in this section there are some interesting threads like this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/raspberry-pi/rd-android-4-4-4-t2816952
It would be great if we can install Android on Raspberry Pi
efkawe said:
It would be great if we can install Android on Raspberry Pi
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Not in a near future... maybe never. Read the existing threads.
Well with ARM 7 they might be a chance for Android with RPI 2
davcri91 said:
Why do you want to install Android on the Raspberry Pi ? There are a lot of applications that works well on the Raspberry Pi.
However in this section there are some interesting threads like this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/raspberry-pi/rd-android-4-4-4-t2816952
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Personally I'm more interested in the upcoming Android Auto. Android is nice because it can be easily adapted as a Car PC and there are already great navigation apps, and other apps which are all designed for the touch screen interface.
I could do linux with XBMC, which I may just do, but the Android system just seems more of a fit.
NickS VR4 said:
Personally I'm more interested in the upcoming Android Auto. Android is nice because it can be easily adapted as a Car PC and there are already great navigation apps, and other apps which are all designed for the touch screen interface.
I could do linux with XBMC, which I may just do, but the Android system just seems more of a fit.
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That is exactly what I am looking to do for my car. It already have the Microsoft Sync system in it, but I think Android auto would work better for the most part. I am thinking about installing it in a way where I could have both systems and have the output from Android auto run through the speakers, and also adding a bluetooth OBD2 adapter to monitor the cars internal systems. Sync does a poor job at that. If everything is running smoothly it only says that, without going into any detail.
Get the new Pi 2 model B. Microsoft is going to be releasing a port of Windows 10 for it... Hopefully have some apps to take advantage of Microsoft Sync
5ft24 said:
Get the new Pi 2 model B. Microsoft is going to be releasing a port of Windows 10 for it... Hopefully have some apps to take advantage of Microsoft Sync
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Already ordered mine. Hopefully the 2 systems will tie together but I heard Ford is going with Blackberry for its new Sync systems and dropping Microsoft. http://microsoft-news.com/ford-substitutes-microsoft-for-blackberry-for-the-new-sync/

[Q] Does anyone know of a gamepad/remote app?

Hi,
Been googleing for a while on this one, not found anything yet.
I'm looking for an app that can emulate a gamepad for my phone.
If all it does is emulate a single screen tap that would be fine.
The thinking is that I have a plastic Google Cardboard rig that doesn't have the magnet button thing. The idea being that the watch could replace this functionality.
If it could act as an analog stick/dpad that would be a huge bonus.
If nobody knows of an app for this, any input to deving one would be helpful. I don't currently have a Tizen dev suite set up but could get one going this weekend.
I've done some remote control stuff in java before but never on android. If anyone has experience in this your help would be appreciated.
I don't want to replicate something if it already exists.

[Q] Pebble or other smart watch connection to arduino

Hi,
I am new to the Pebble / smart watch / android wear devices.
I was thinking if the smartwatch can be used to connect to another device say an iBeacon / arduino with a bluetooth LTE or anyother such devices.
Any suggestions recommendations are welcome.
Mods/admins sorry if I have posted in wrong category. But any help is really appreciated.
Pebble and Home automation
sachinranka4u said:
Hi,
I am new to the Pebble / smart watch / android wear devices.
I was thinking if the smartwatch can be used to connect to another device say an iBeacon / arduino with a bluetooth LTE or anyother such devices.
Any suggestions recommendations are welcome.
Mods/admins sorry if I have posted in wrong category. But any help is really appreciated.
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==> I've got Pebble, Pebble Time, and (coming up) Pebble Time2 and the Pebble Core.. Really looking forward to the progress made.
I haven't got my Pebble working with home automation just yet, but I'm starting that project next year.
I've already gathered the hardware bits: Raspberry, Arduino's, RF tx/rx, switches, cameras sensors and such
I'm expecting that it will take me quite a learning curve, but domotica and security systems are 'on the rise', interesting.
I know that one of the mechanisms that you can use is the IFTTT way of messaging and setting up switches, dependencies etcetera.
I haven't yet dug into it, but the easiest mechanism at the moment seems to be as discussed in mydogsnowy.com
It offers a number of 'Ok Google' like possibilities, including including e.g. a "snowy please open garage"
Go over to the site mentioned for further detail.
I'm sure there must also be other Pebble-owners that are 'active' in such use of the Pebble series.
sachinranka4u said:
Hi,
I am new to the Pebble / smart watch / android wear devices.
I was thinking if the smartwatch can be used to connect to another device say an iBeacon / arduino with a bluetooth LTE or anyother such devices.
Any suggestions recommendations are welcome.
Mods/admins sorry if I have posted in wrong category. But any help is really appreciated.
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super cool watch

Linux head unit

Hi, this is probably in the wrong section.
Does anyone manufacture a head unit running Linux, something for which I can just download a debian ARM iso and install from a usb stick/sd card? From what I can find it seems not to be the case. Why not? Why is android so prevalent?
I also have a question. I just bought an E46 with an eonon GA5150 which is MTCB-KLD-v2.30. I updated from 4.2.2 to 4.4.4 with Malaysk's ROM, but not the MCU, and now audio doesn't work at all. How should I begin to troubleshoot this issue?
Thanks, to a community I should have joined many years ago.
Answer to the first question is...um...well Android is running a Linux kernal...so...you can make the case it's running Linux (or a forky version at least).
As far as running Debian ARM on the typical SoC in these head units, I think it's very likely possible...if you are willing to write the drivers or chase them down (if they exist). And configure the system...it's not a super mountain to climb, but I doubt it's something that already exist. At least in binary format that you could put on an a USB key and install.
In fact, you would have to create a custom Debian build, most likely, and use a bootloader that is normally setup for Android (guessing on that one) to install it. There is no technical reason it should not work, just no one has bothered to do it. We already have Android, what does Debian Linux buy us?
Why run Android? Well, it's because that's where the focus of the development effort is for the kinds of apps you would most likely want to use in a car. My opinion is that's why these head units exist in the first place. The vast number of really good (and admittedly incredible number of poor) apps already exist...let's tap into them!
If you really want to run Linux in the car for some reason or another, there are other options out there...might look for "carputers" or "car PCs". I think a lot of folks who are determined to run Open Source car computers are now running Raspberry Pi (or similar) SBCs..seems to be a lot of that type of projects on Google, when you do a search.
On the second question...about your head unit's ROM issues, I defer to the experts on here.
fortune80211 said:
Hi, this is probably in the wrong section.
Does anyone manufacture a head unit running Linux, something for which I can just download a debian ARM iso and install from a usb stick/sd card? From what I can find it seems not to be the case. Why not? Why is android so prevalent?
I also have a question. I just bought an E46 with an eonon GA5150 which is MTCB-KLD-v2.30. I updated from 4.2.2 to 4.4.4 with Malaysk's ROM, but not the MCU, and now audio doesn't work at all. How should I begin to troubleshoot this issue?
Thanks, to a community I should have joined many years ago.
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Yeah, @tbd2k2 is right - Android IS Linux, albeit one that uses a very old Linux kernel (google is trying to rectify this but its gonna take years).
There are versions of Ubuntu (Debian based) that run on RK3188 devices, so I m sure someone who is experienced enough could make an Ubuntu ROM for MTCB/C units, but it would involve making all the MTC apps work with it too.
Thank you
What exactly are the mtc apps? What are they needed for? (Do you have a link I can read?) What kind of drivers would I need to write and how would I find what they are if I were to attempt something like this myself?
The reason I ask is that it seems to me that it's very difficult to update software on these head units. It takes a very specialised piece of software and it's impossible to keep up to date.
If these head units were just generic arm PCs then people could install whatever they wanted. I agree that most people would want to install android, but even then the situation would be simpler. Aren't these head units just 12V DC in, audio and video out with additional drivers for GPS, WiFi etc?.
fortune80211 said:
Thank you
What exactly are the mtc apps? What are they needed for? (Do you have a link I can read?) What kind of drivers would I need to write and how would I find what they are if I were to attempt something like this myself?
The reason I ask is that it seems to me that it's very difficult to update software on these head units. It takes a very specialised piece of software and it's impossible to keep up to date.
If these head units were just generic arm PCs then people could install whatever they wanted. I agree that most people would want to install android, but even then the situation would be simpler. Aren't these head units just 12V DC in, audio and video out with additional drivers for GPS, WiFi etc?.
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Read the wiki in my signature, it will answer all your questions.
"Very difficult to update" ? - what makes you think that ? - its as easy as you like - put update on sd card go to settings/updates hit "update", or hold down power and reset, release reset, release power to get into recovery and install update by clicking on it, very easy.
Sorry, I didn't mean in that sense.
I mean that if you want to run something obscure, it's not possible. If you want to run an app that only runs on later versions of android, it's not possible. The actual installation is as easy as can be, but you are limited to a small selection of android ROMs.
I realise that it's the way it is for a reason and I'm very grateful to the community of developers here who have contributed so much. I'm just looking for something different and wouldn't mind a project for myself.
Thanks
EDIT: Also, recently Linux operating systems (Ubuntu), and even windows are moving toward touchscreens. There's a huge amount of present and future development effort we could tap into if our hardware was compatible.
I have been a Unix/Linux IT professional for more than 25 years, and it also happens that electronics is my hobby, and I have build many things in recent years powered by Linux using the great new small boards such as Rasbperry Pi's, Beaglebone, Orange, etc.. including weather stations, wall clocks/electronic displays, radio receivers, etc.
BUT, Even I would not use a generic Linux system in place of these purpose built android devices. Using android which has a wealth of high quality apps dedicated to mobile device use for GPS, Maps, media, etc is infinitely more practical.
fortune80211 said:
Sorry, I didn't mean in that sense.
I mean that if you want to run something obscure, it's not possible. If you want to run an app that only runs on later versions of android, it's not possible.
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Are you talking about apps not showing up in the Playstore or not installing when sideloaded ?
fortune80211 said:
The actual installation is as easy as can be, but you are limited to a small selection of android ROMs.
I realise that it's the way it is for a reason and I'm very grateful to the community of developers here who have contributed so much. I'm just looking for something different and wouldn't mind a project for myself.
EDIT: Also, recently Linux operating systems (Ubuntu), and even windows are moving toward touchscreens. There's a huge amount of present and future development effort we could tap into if our hardware was compatible.
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nixfu said:
I have been a Unix/Linux IT professional for more than 25 years, and it also happens that electronics is my hobby, and I have build many things in recent years powered by Linux using the great new small boards such as Rasbperry Pi's, Beaglebone, Orange, etc.. including weather stations, wall clocks/electronic displays, radio receivers, etc.
BUT, Even I would not use a generic Linux system in place of these purpose built android devices. Using android which has a wealth of high quality apps dedicated to mobile device use for GPS, Maps, media, etc is infinitely more practical.
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I ve been using Ubuntu since 2009 and I ve been following the development of Ubuntu Touch for phones/tablets for a while as well - I d love it but until someone gets ART running on Ubuntu Touch so you can use Touch apps (which can also run on Ubuntu desktops) AND Android apps, I wont be using it (and I dont think many others will either) for precisely the reason that @nixfu says - I dont wanna loose access to all the apps available for android.
nixfu said:
I have been a Unix/Linux IT professional for more than 25 years, and it also happens that electronics is my hobby, and I have build many things in recent years powered by Linux using the great new small boards such as Rasbperry Pi's, Beaglebone, Orange, etc.. including weather stations, wall clocks/electronic displays, radio receivers, etc.
BUT, Even I would not use a generic Linux system in place of these purpose built android devices. Using android which has a wealth of high quality apps dedicated to mobile device use for GPS, Maps, media, etc is infinitely more practical.
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Look at this one: https://www.stepstone.de/stellenang...d-Unit-f-m-Ulm-BMW-Group--4333376-inline.html
BMW is obviously trying to work on exactly that; trying to professionally use Linux for Car Entertainment
I've pulled apart the system image for the 2016 and 2017 Kenwood units and it's just a QT app on top of the Linux kernel.
Sony's XAV-AX100 is the same and i'm pretty sure the new Pioneers are the same now they've dumped Android.
Once you stop them booting into the GUI app and get a console, you've got a Linux system with good enough hardware to play with.
All three also have sites where you can get the code for things like the kernel that they have to make available.
leonkernan said:
I've pulled apart the system image for the 2016 and 2017 Kenwood units and it's just a QT app on top of the Linux kernel.
Sony's XAV-AX100 is the same and i'm pretty sure the new Pioneers are the same now they've dumped Android.
Once you stop them booting into the GUI app and get a console, you've got a Linux system with good enough hardware to play with.
All three also have sites where you can get the code for things like the kernel that they have to make available.
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Sounds great, I guess you could even run Android apps on them as you can do that on a Linux desktop.
Google search i-carus (raspberry pi based)
Give that a go

Serious Debate Question: Run OpenAuto Pro on RasPi or LineageOS on RasPi as Car Head unit?

So I am stuck in a dilemma. Ive switched roms so many times I still don't know which way to go.
I want to us Android Auto. But I want to natively run my Uber/Lyft driver apps on the main screen. I dont want to involve the use of a typical phone or tablet. I have 2 Raspberry Pi's. An 8gb and a 2gb. I have a Sim7600G-H cell/gps module. I have 2 mcp2515 can modules on the spi bus.
I have 10" screen and a 4" screen.
Ah, but it gets better. I also have a number of arduinos in the equation too. These will control lights and servos. All custom programmed in python to operate over i2c.
I think im sticking with the Open Auto Pro method as my main screen. But i'm not sure. I love the car launcher apps that are available on android so they would look cool as the main screen too. Not sold on Kodi as a launcher option.
So I open the floor to debate. Android as a main app and run linux as secondary? Or run Open Auto Pro (linux) as main and android (LineageOS or OmniRom) as secondary?
same question in my head because of another reason:
I have a carplay-dongle and bought Pi4 to use it. I can use it with LineageOS or openauto pro. I tried with an android-tablet but had some problems and decided to do it with raspberry.
Both of them has similar functions:
Integrated music player
Display OBD-II data
Plugin CarPlay Autobox for OpenAuto Pro
Navigation with Android Auto™ head unit emulation
Multi-langugage support
Benefits of LineageOS:
is free and you will get free updates all time.
Your android-apk will also updated all time.
Android developed and optimised for light hardware. A PI4 4GB will a really good hardware-base.
Openauto Pro:
It is developed as a car head unit. User interface, community, supports... All of them for same purpose. If you have a specific problem like wheel-controller or power on-off etc... It is easier than only-android. You can run not only apk's, also linux packages.
You get free-updates only one year. You have to buy Carplay-Plugin separately. Maybe this plugin will not works next year with IOS-16. I don't know, if I get a free update or not.
Other issue of it cpu-memory usage: Debian-OS is developed for a Desktop-PC and a Pi4-4GB is a thin hardware for this os.
My Wish-List:
DAB-Radio support
TSR (Traffic sign recognisition)
Lane Assistant
Both system does not have a built in solution for FM-Radio, TSR or Lane Assistent. But you can use Android-Apps on both systems.
I will try first with LineageOS and maybe some android-apps too. If it is not enought, I can buy Openauto and use bought apps on it too.

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