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Nexus 6 mmra58n 6.0: Troubling With Rooting

Nexus Root problem. Marshmallow android 6.0 mmra58n
I just have tried everything.
I have a Nexus 6 with marshmallow, and I follow this thread guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...mallow-6-0-t3241976/post64008696#post64008696 to root my phone, but everything goes wrong.
I flash the boot.img and there's no problem at the boot time, then I flash the recovery, and the same, when i reboot it works like a charm.
But everything goes wrong when i flash with twrp the supersu beta v2.52 or v2.56, when i reboot, it doesn't boot...
My phone continue on the first bootanimation (before flash this file it boot then says android, request my pincode and start booting, but no this time, just still doing the [email protected] bootanimation. I am kind of desperate, can somebody help me plz?
DONE, I re-flash system and do it again, thanks for everyone

dont use supersu 2.52, use supersu 2.51 instead http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/chainfire/supersu/supersu-2-51-android-apk-download/

I just flash then the 2.51 with twrp?

Fabiano91 said:
I just flash then the 2.51 with twrp?
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yes. but you will need that boot.img or any other custom marshmallow kernel as well for root. btw, a boot.img is a kernel. also, you can flash boot.imgs with twrp now too, you just have to select the ability to flash it in twrp.

simms22 said:
yes. but you will need that boot.img or any other custom marshmallow kernel as well for root. btw, a boot.img is a kernel. also, you can flash boot.imgs with twrp now too, you just have to select the ability to flash it in twrp.
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Ok dude, I will do it now, five minutes more and i write the update here. thanks!!!
It didn't work! I'm stuck!

How can i install a kernel?

I've been trying to find how to install a kernel for a few days but i couldn't find any good and updated source. I'm thinking of installing latest helium to my device. Can anyone help me?

ExclusiveBFS said:
I've been trying to find how to install a kernel for a few days but i couldn't find any good and updated source. I'm thinking of installing latest helium to my device. Can anyone help me?
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Through any recovery is the most easy way, but you have to unlock bootloader first.

Do you even know what it does?

Bigrrd225 said:
Do you even know what it does?
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Yeah, I do. I just didn't want to flash it and take risk. I must have learned details
HUEguy said:
Through any recovery is the most easy way, but you have to unlock bootloader first.
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My bootloader is unlocked. And I have the twrp. Thanks!

ExclusiveBFS said:
Yeah, I do. I just didn't want to flash it and take risk. I must have learned details
My bootloader is unlocked. And I have the twrp. Thanks!
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Then just flash the .zip file via TWRP. Simple. Of course you'll need a ROM compatible with helium otherwise you'll be stuck in a bootloop.
Also goes without saying that you should take a nandroid backup via TWRP first in case something goes wrong.
Edit : When you say you have TWRP, is it part of your current kernel or you flashed it in your FOTA kernel partition via Rashr or something? If its the former then flashing Helium would overwrite TWRP and you could wind up without a working recovery cause I don't think Helium comes with any. Might want to flash TWRP in your FOTA partition with Rashr before you proceed.

XenolithicYardZone said:
Then just flash the .zip file via TWRP. Simple. Of course you'll need a ROM compatible with helium otherwise you'll be stuck in a bootloop.
Also goes without saying that you should take a nandroid backup via TWRP first in case something goes wrong.
Edit : When you say you have TWRP, is it part of your current kernel or you flashed it in your FOTA kernel partition via Rashr or something? If its the former then flashing Helium would overwrite TWRP and you could wind up without a working recovery cause I don't think Helium comes with any. Might want to flash TWRP in your FOTA partition with Rashr before you proceed.
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I was on latest candy5, i flashed adrian dc's twrp from recovery but now I'm installing the stock ftf, I will try carbon lp rom. When the installation completed, I will flash adrian dc's twrp again. Then I will flash the helium kernel with twrp. Is there a problem with that? Should I install twrp with rashr?

ExclusiveBFS said:
I was on latest candy5, i flashed adrian dc's twrp from recovery but now I'm installing the stock ftf, I will try carbon lp rom. When the installation completed, I will flash adrian dc's twrp again. Then I will flash the helium kernel with twrp. Is there a problem with that? Should I install twrp with rashr?
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If you're gonna flash stock firmware via Flashtool then your FOTA recovery will be wiped out. How are you gonna flash TWRP & Carbon LP rom when you don't have a recovery in the first place?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development/recovery-twrp-3-0-0-touch-recovery-t3309938
The recovery from the above thread is flashable but you still need an working recovery on your device to be able to do it right? What you can do it use the fastboot bootable image and install whatever you want if you're gonna go stock.
Actually you only need Rashr if you wanna stay stock but still want a working recovery.

XenolithicYardZone said:
If you're gonna flash stock firmware via Flashtool then your FOTA recovery will be wiped out. How are you gonna flash TWRP & Carbon LP rom when you don't have a recovery in the first place?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development/recovery-twrp-3-0-0-touch-recovery-t3309938
The recovery from the above thread is flashable but you still need an working recovery on your device to be able to do it right? What you can do it use the fastboot bootable image and install whatever you want if you're gonna go stock.
Actually you only need Rashr if you wanna stay stock but still want a working recovery.
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I guess I couldn't explained my situation well. I installed carbon rom just now, and flashed gapps. I didn't check if carbon comes with a recovery but if it comes, I'm going to flash adrian dc's twrp through stock recovery. That's what I'm asking, is there a difference between using rashr to install twrp or flashing through recovery.

ExclusiveBFS said:
I guess I couldn't explained my situation well. I installed carbon rom just now, and flashed gapps. I didn't check if carbon comes with a recovery but if it comes, I'm going to flash adrian dc's twrp through stock recovery. That's what I'm asking, is there a difference between using rashr to install twrp or flashing through recovery.
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Carbon provides CM recovery. Flash TWRP only through recovery, don't use Rashr.

ExclusiveBFS said:
I guess I couldn't explained my situation well. I installed carbon rom just now, and flashed gapps. I didn't check if carbon comes with a recovery but if it comes, I'm going to flash adrian dc's twrp through stock recovery. That's what I'm asking, is there a difference between using rashr to install twrp or flashing through recovery.
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The recovery that comes with Carbon is most probably Cyanogen recovery which will not let you flash unsigned zip files like custom kernels & roms, SuperSU, Xposed, etc.
Its the reason why people install a recovery in their FOTA partitions because installing new kernels or roms (which include their own kernel) wipes out the previous recovery since Xperia phones esp older one's like ours don't have a separate recovery partition - the recovery is part of the kernel so it gets replaced by whatever came (or didn't) with the new kernel or rom. Atleast that's how it works to the best of my knowledge.
With fastboot, you could boot the device into TWRP recovery using the twrp-3.0.0-rX-boot-huashan.img file and the command "fastboot boot *filename*.img". This way its just temporary and doesn't permanently flash anything. Once in the recovery, flash the rom, kernel, recovery and you are done. That's how I did it on my Mi4i though you might want to confirm but since the description next to it says fastboot bootable, I guessing it works on the same principal.
Edit : If the kernel creator says no Rashr then its no Rashr.

XenolithicYardZone said:
The recovery that comes with Carbon is most probably Cyanogen recovery which will not let you flash unsigned zip files like custom kernels & roms, SuperSU, Xposed, etc.
Its the reason why people install a recovery in their FOTA partitions because installing new kernels or roms (which include their own kernel) wipes out the previous recovery since Xperia phones esp older one's like ours don't have a separate recovery partition - the recovery is part of the kernel so it gets replaced by whatever came (or didn't) with the new kernel or rom. Atleast that's how it works to the best of my knowledge.
With fastboot, you could boot the device into TWRP recovery using the twrp-3.0.0-rX-boot-huashan.img file and the command "fastboot boot *filename*.img". This way its just temporary and doesn't permanently flash anything. Once in the recovery, flash the rom, kernel, recovery and you are done. That's how I did it on my Mi4i though you might want to confirm but since the description next to it says fastboot bootable, I guessing it works on the same principal.
Edit : If the kernel creator says no Rashr then its no Rashr.
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I find that flashing TWRP from CM recovery and then Helium from TWRP is much simpler than flashing TWRP as a kernel in the boot partition, then flashing the rom again and the kernel.

Tomoms said:
Carbon provides CM recovery. Flash TWRP only through recovery, don't use Rashr.
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I flashed helium v5 for lollipop through twrp 3.0.0 and rebooted. It's not booted yet, i'm waiting for 2 minutes and the screen is black. Is it normal?

Tomoms said:
I find that flashing TWRP from CM recovery and then Helium from TWRP is much simpler than flashing TWRP as a kernel in the boot partition, then flashing the rom again and the kernel.
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Wait hang on, CM recovery lets you flash custom zip files now without moaning about file verification? Since when?
Yes that's why I asked him to temporarily boot up with the TWRP img and then flash whatever he liked from it but hey if you can flash stuff via CM recovery now then that's one less step to worry about.
Also why no Rashr? I haven't used it in a while that's why I am asking.
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ExclusiveBFS said:
I flashed helium v5 for lollipop through twrp 3.0.0 and rebooted. It's not booted yet, i'm waiting for 2 minutes and the screen is black. Is it normal?
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You mean black screen after the Sony splash screen? Is that rom compatible with Helium?

XenolithicYardZone said:
Wait hang on, CM recovery lets you flash custom zip files now without moaning about file verification? Since when?
Yes that's why I asked him to temporarily boot up with the TWRP img and then flash whatever he liked from it but hey if you can flash stuff via CM recovery now then that's one less step to worry about.
Also why no Rashr? I haven't used it in a while that's why I am asking.
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You mean black screen after the Sony splash screen? Is that rom compatible with Helium?
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First, yes it lets you flash custom zip files, that's what I was trying to tell I always used cm recovery to install twrp
And I haven't used rashr before, I didn't know how to use it. So I flashed it with cm recovery and perfectly installed.
About helium, my phone finally booted after 9 minutes, how I scared

ExclusiveBFS said:
First, yes it lets you flash custom zip files, that's what I was trying to tell I always used cm recovery to install twrp
And I haven't used rashr before, I didn't know how to use it. So I flashed it with cm recovery and perfectly installed.
About helium, my phone finally booted after 9 minutes, how I scared
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Sorry man didn't know that CM recovery lets you do that now. Been out of the loop for a while.
Lol yeah I can relate but as long as you can see a splash screen, you're good and when you don't, Flashtool is your light in the darkness :victory:

ExclusiveBFS said:
I flashed helium v5 for lollipop through twrp 3.0.0 and rebooted. It's not booted yet, i'm waiting for 2 minutes and the screen is black. Is it normal?
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The reboot button is broken on TWRP. Causes black screen for a long time. You must always use the Power off option instead.
XenolithicYardZone said:
Sorry man didn't know that CM recovery lets you do that now. Been out of the loop for a while.
Lol yeah I can relate but as long as you can see a splash screen, you're good and when you don't, Flashtool is your light in the darkness :victory:
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CM recovery lets you flash signed zip, and TWRP is provided in a signed zip, while even though Helium is provided in a signed zip, it can't be flashed.

Tomoms said:
The reboot button is broken on TWRP. Causes black screen for a long time. You must always use the Power off option instead.
CM recovery lets you flash signed zip, and TWRP is provided in a signed zip, while even though Helium is provided in a signed zip, it can't be flashed.
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@Tomoms, @XenolithicYardZone Thanks for all your help, I used more than 10 roms so far but never used a custom kernel before. You two helped me a lot

Tomoms said:
The reboot button is broken on TWRP. Causes black screen for a long time. You must always use the Power off option instead.
CM recovery lets you flash signed zip, and TWRP is provided in a signed zip, while even though Helium is provided in a signed zip, it can't be flashed.
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Yeah kinda guessed it was signed cause in all my time flashing roms, I have never known CM recovery to allow the flashing of unsigned zips. So why doesn't it work with Helium if its signed?
ExclusiveBFS said:
@Tomoms, @XenolithicYardZone Thanks for all your help, I used more than 10 roms so far but never used a custom kernel before. You two helped me a lot
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Your welcome man. As a famous author once said, "Help will always be given at XDA to those who ask for it. "

XenolithicYardZone said:
Yeah kinda guessed it was signed cause in all my time flashing roms, I have never known CM recovery to allow the flashing of unsigned zips. So why doesn't it work with Helium if its signed?
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Because CM recovery sucks

Tomoms said:
Because CM recovery sucks
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True that!

Magisk 14 News

Wow no need for custom recovery...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...hout-root-installing-without-custom-recovery/

@ultramag69 Maybe he doesn't follow Magisk closely? I know I don't. Magisk is only on used my stepmom's OP3T H2OS (which I update but don't look at the change log since it's only there in case I need it in the future), the other 2 phones I support don't use Magisk they use LOS su add-on. Not everyone who uses root cares about all the bloated/"nifty" features that come out, some just want plain old root.

I only use for root too but every so often I open magisk manager as it updates both the manager app and magisk itself....
It's done that for ages... The only one I found that didn't was 13.1, that one needed TWRP.

I'm letting people know that with 14 they can keep stock recovery and take OTAs

ultramag69 said:
I only use for root too but every so often I open magisk manager as it updates both the manager app and magisk itself....
It's done that for ages... The only one I found that didn't was 13.1, that one needed TWRP.
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Before you flame someone you should read the link. FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU CAN KEEP STOCK RECOVERY SO YOU CAN TAKE OTAS

lollyjay said:
Before you flame someone you should read the link. FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU CAN KEEP STOCK RECOVERY SO YOU CAN TAKE OTAS
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I have had stock recovery on more than one without having to reflash recovery with custom one .
If you use fastboot to flash the recovery, Instead of replacing with TWRP, you can use the command "fastboot boot TWRP.img" (TWRP.img being the name of the TWRP image you have such as twrp-3.1.1-0-oneplus5.img) , this will just boot you into TWRP where you can flash SuperSU or Magisk as you please but will revert back to stock recovery once you boot again while retaining root.

ultramag69 said:
I have had stock recovery on more than one without having to reflash recovery with custom one .
If you use fastboot to flash the recovery, Instead of replacing with TWRP, you can use the command "fastboot boot TWRP.img" (TWRP.img being the name of the TWRP image you have such as twrp-3.1.1-0-oneplus5.img) , this will just boot you into TWRP where you can flash SuperSU or Magisk as you please but will revert back to stock recovery once you boot again while retaining root.
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No need to do that now

Honestly, who roots a phone without flashing a custom recovery the very second after? Unless they are forced to use Flashfire without BL unlock, I guess.

lollyjay said:
No need to do that now
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Yeah, but using magisk to root my Axon 7 with unlocked bootloader didn't work...
There's still problems with some phones...

ultramag69 said:
Yeah, but using magisk to root my Axon 7 with unlocked bootloader didn't work...
There's still problems with some phones...
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No problems at all with my OP5

Magisk 14.0 breaks XPosed so had to go back to Magisk 13.3

Now where can we obtain a copy of the stock boot.img?

almostthere said:
Now where can we obtain a copy of the stock boot.img?
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What you're supposed to do is make a backup of your boot partition any time you update your rom. So if you didn't do that then you can dirty flash your current Rom and that would give you the stock boot.img and again, go into recovery and make a backup of your boot partition. then if you want to flash a custom kernel you can.

Help the noobs
Would any of you more experienced guys please post a step-by-step of how to do it?
From what Eric214 wrote I still don't understand where (or how) to get a copy of the stock_boot.img.
If you get the copy of the stock boot image, is it possible to do it without unlocking the bootloader?
I already installed everything before reading how to root - stupid me, and don't want to reinstall everything.

s_ofer said:
Would any of you more experienced guys please post a step-by-step of how to do it?
From what Eric214 wrote I still don't understand where (or how) to get a copy of the stock_boot.img.
If you get the copy of the stock boot image, is it possible to do it without unlocking the bootloader?
I already installed everything before reading how to root - stupid me, and don't want to reinstall everything.
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I have the stock 4.5.10 boot.img for download here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3gcDbDvV4Mkbm5EMEZ4dnpSbk0/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thanks.
Do any of you think it is possible to FLASH anything without unlocking the bootloader?
There is a thread somewhere for OP3T that shows somehow that is possible to load TWRP on the phone without unlocking the bootloader or wiping data.

I only use for root too but every so often I open magisk manager as it updates also both the manager app and magisk itself. But using magisk to root my Axon 7 with unlocked bootloader.

Upgrading without un-rooting OP3T

I am upgrading my OP3T from 5.0.1 to 5.0.3. My device is rooted using magisk and I have TWRP installed.
The system updates says -
"Root is detected, system will begin dowloading the full package. Your device will be un-rooted once the upgrade is completed."
Now my questions are
1. How to install the upgrade (5.0.3) without unrooting it ?
2. As it says it'll un-root my device, does it also mean it'll wipe my data as well ?
EDIT - I read about Dirty flashing the version I want but I can't find 5.0.3 image on Oneplus website.

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The system updates says -
"Root is detected, system will begin dowloading the full package. Your device will be un-rooted once the upgrade is completed."
Now my questions are
1. How to install the upgrade (5.0.3) without unrooting it ?
2. As it says it'll un-root my device, does it also mean it'll wipe my data as well ?.
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1. You can't.
2. No, but you can re-root it using TWRP (which will need to be reflashed via fastboot).

przemcio510 said:
1. You can't.
2. No, but you can re-root it using TWRP (which will need to be reflashed via fastboot).
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Re-flashing magisk via TWRP will keep my data ?

It's the same as with all previous updates.
Go to TWRP, flash the whole rom,.don't exit,.flash latest Magisk,.done.
Everything will be as before, with the new system installed
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0

RASTAVIPER said:
It's the same as with all previous updates.
Go to TWRP, flash the whole rom,.don't exit,.flash latest Magisk,.done.
Everything will be as before, with the new system installed
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0
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Can you elaborate more on this ?
After I upgrade (and it becomes unrooted). I immediately flash magisk via TWRP ?
I didn't get the part "flash the whole rom and don't exit" ?
Also, Will I lose any data in the process ?

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Re-flashing magisk via TWRP will keep my data ?
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Nothing will be lost even if you don't flash Magisk, so yes.
And Rastaviper meant that when you flash the update via TWRP, you don't reboot, but right after flashing the ROM you flash Magisk and then reboot, this way you will stay rooted.

przemcio510 said:
Nothing will be lost even if you don't flash Magisk, so yes.
And Rastaviper meant that when you flash the update via TWRP, you don't reboot, but right after flashing the ROM you flash Magisk and then reboot, this way you will stay rooted.
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So no need to fastboot flash recovery?
Correct me if I'm wrong, so you dl the zip, you flash it, you then flash magisk zip? Then what? You boot up and install twrp manager in order to change recovery?

b4bass said:
So no need to fastboot flash recovery?
Correct me if I'm wrong, so you dl the zip, you flash it, you then flash magisk zip? Then what? You boot up and install twrp manager in order to change recovery?
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If you flash the update downloaded as zip from downloads.oneplus.com via TWRP, then no, there will be no need to flash it again via fastboot and no need to install TWRP Manager.
Boot to TWRP
Flash 5.0.3 zip
Flash Magisk
Reboot & enjoy

OK thanks! I thought the recovery would go back to stock after flashing the rom

And guys, if other members help you with their posts, don't forget to thank them.
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0

b4bass said:
OK thanks! I thought the recovery would go back to stock after flashing the rom
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That only happens if you reboot the phone while on the stock boot image. If you use a patched boot image, or a custom kernel, or Magisk, then the stock recovery doesn't overwrite the current recovery.
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BillGoss said:
That only happens if you reboot the phone while on the stock boot image. If you use a patched boot image, or a custom kernel, or Magisk, then the stock recovery doesn't overwrite the current recovery.
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So magisk is patching bootloader? I thought it was it point not to
Though this method is saving me some serious time!

b4bass said:
So magisk is patching boot, I thought I was it point not to
Though this method is saving me some serious time!
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Magisk makes a point of not touching the system partition but a lot of its magic is done by changing the boot image.
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OK thx ! First time I replaced supersu to pet magisk. Will have to find more details on this subject

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So magisk is patching bootloader? I thought it was it point not to
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Boot image is kernel and ramdisk. Boot image is not the same as bootloader!

Which version of TWRP?

So, just got the OTA update to Android Pie for my Mi 8 Global, and want to try flashing TWRP again. Every single version of TWRP I have flashed before has always either fail to boot, or always reboots into recovery and the ROM never loads. Anyone can suggest a real working TWRP file to flash? Do I need to wipe data? Etc. Since TWRP hasn't worked for me at all, I have to root with a roundabout way. Install Magisk Manager, extract and recompile boot.img into patched_boot.img and flash that in fastboot. This gives me roo but no TWRP so I can't flash any custom kernels or ROMs.

Rommco05 said:
Hi, I can't help you with twrp because I still waiting for countdown for unlocked it. From your post I understand u have a stock recovery.img, where u find stock recovery?
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I just flash the stock boot.img and it reverts everything

Rommco05 said:
Where I can find stock .imgs?
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Download a stock ROM and grab the boot.img from inside it.