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Does anyone have both phones and would be willing to share their experience with them?
I am trying to decide which one to buy and would really appreciate the view of someone who has/had both devices.
As I already read a lot and made up my mind about their power/speed/camera/screen I'd instead like to know more about more normal usage/features.
For example:
- battery life
- outdoor screen readability/visibility in very sunny condition
- fingerprint sensor (also about pros/cons in being positioned on the back/front of the phone)
- particular software/hardware features that may be useful but missing on one of the two devices
- issues/problems/avaliaibility with root, custorm roms, warranty, etc
Thanks in advance
tacchan23 said:
Does anyone have both phones and would be willing to share their experience with them?
I am trying to decide which one to buy and would really appreciate the view of someone who has/had both devices.
As I already read a lot and made up my mind about their power/speed/camera/screen I'd instead like to know more about more normal usage/features.
For example:
- battery life
- fingerprint sensor (also about pros/cons in being positioned on the back/front of the phone)
- particular software/hardware features that may be useful but missing on one of the two devices
- issues/problems/avaliaibility with root, custorm roms, warranty, etc
Thanks in advance
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s7 edge is now same price on ebay
I'm currently using both of these phones (as well as an iphone 6s plus), and there are definitely pros and cons for both. Now overall I'm primarily using the P9 plus, and the reason is that I travel quite a bit so the dual sim function is extremely useful. The problem with the S7 edge is that even the dual sim models only have 32GB, so it's not enough memory. If the S7edge had a 64G dual sim version, it would probably edge out the P9 plus, but only ever so slightly. Let me list some of the pros and cons:
- battery life: The S7 edge has slightly better battery life (my version is the exynos version), but the P9 is very good too, it's just that the S7 edge is excellent. So for me it depends on your usage pattern. With both sims activated, the P9 plus lasts me just through a full day, so having the S7 edge's battery life would be better for me in terms of peace of mind.
- memory: as mentioned the P9 plus comes with 64G so it's the much better choice here if you are not adding a memory card.
- screen: I actually prefer the P9 Plus because it's flat. The S7 edge's edge does get annoying at times and the viewable area feels more comfortable on the P9 plus. Quality is very similar.
-fingerprint sensor: P9 plus. You don't need to press on it and the activation is quicker than the S7. The S7 isn't bad, but it's a step behind the P9 plus and the iphone 6s plus as well. I'm fine with the placement of the button, both locations work well and it's easy to get used to.
- software: P9 plus. The latest touchwiz is ok, but I always slap on Nova, and so overall I actually find the Huawei software to be leaner and quicker. It's one of the fastest Android phones I've used in day-to-day situations. Not sure what type of memory the phone uses, but my P9 plus flies. The Kirin processor is inferior to the exynos but in normal usage I actually feel that the operation feels smoother on the P9 plus. Now I don't play games so I'm sure there's a difference there, but in terms of using apps like instagram, flightradar, google apps, browser, etc. it's at least a tie. I think Huawei's built in battery power manager is also more robust than the Samsung one. When you restrict background processes Huawei really shuts it down. I don't use Samsung's split screen much so for me the lack of it is no big deal. One annoyance of the Huawei though is that I can't figure out how to make notifications display properly in the notification bar. What I mean is for my weather app, it normally can display the weather on the notification strip at the top. On my Huawei, it shows an icon that depicts the app running but not the actual weather information. I can't seem to find a way around this.
- camera: tie. The S7 edge is slightly faster, better in low light, and has sharper details. I however prefer the P9 plus' color rendering and overall picture before zooming in. It's probably because of the lack of ois or something, but when zooming in for example to words on small objects the S7 does a much better job of rendering this. But at the end of the day who's reading the text on small objects? So this one is a tough call. I love the P9 plus' camera effects and overall picture quality, but you've got to be more steady handed in low light. I also love the S7 edge's ability to quickly take a picture and knowing that more likely than not the picture will be quite good. Just to add I basically don't shoot in raw format.
- I haven't rooted my P9 plus, but I have rooted my S7 edge. I don't it's much of an issue as both can be rooted. Haven't had any major issues with either software and they seem to be updated at the same pace.
- build: tie. The P9 plus feels super premium in my opinion, and the S7 edge is a looker. It comes down to whether you like the metal look / feel or the glass look / feel. Having said that you pretty much must have a case for the S7 edge or it's too difficult to hold without accidentally hitting the screen's edge.
- music through headphones: this is actually pretty important for me, and both of these are above average performers. More treble and less bass than the iphone 6s plus in my opinion, but very clean output. So no problems for either on here. I keep Huawei's own music enhance off though - I find that adds way too much bass and distorts the actual quality of the music.
These two phones are definitely the two best Android phones I've ever used, and I've used a lot (I actually also have a G5 but it's purely a music player now...it really cannot compare to either one of these other than the camera). Other than the memory / dual sim issue, I think it purely comes down to:
1. do you play games? the Samsung chip may be better for this
2. How heavy a user are you? the Samsung battery may give you the extra juice needed
3. Screen / typing: the edge screen can definitely be a pain when it comes to typing, which could be the tie breaker that goes in favor of the P9 plus
I guess overall, the Samsung slightly edges the Huawei. If the price similar and you don't need dual sim and the curved screen doesn't bother you, I'd go with the S7 edge. But again the P9 plus is a great phone in its own right.
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I guess overall, the Samsung slightly edges the Huawei. If the price similar and you don't need dual sim and the curved screen doesn't bother you, I'd go with the S7 edge. But again the P9 plus is a great phone in its own right.
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Thanks a lot for the many details in your reply!
Can I ask if you have any experience/preference about screen readability outdoor in a very sunny day condition? is any phone better?
Honestly I hate the curved screen idea as I type a lot and use to read comics on the phone. It's just that in my area I can find both phones for the same price so I was considering the S7 edge anyway. Also I tend to be a heavy user at times, so the extra battery life may be nice.
Thanks again.
tacchan23 said:
Thanks a lot for the many details in your reply!
Can I ask if you have any experience/preference about screen readability outdoor in a very sunny day condition? is any phone better?
Honestly I hate the curved screen idea as I type a lot and use to read comics on the phone. It's just that in my area I can find both phones for the same price so I was considering the S7 edge anyway. Also I tend to be a heavy user at times, so the extra battery life may be nice.
Thanks again.
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I have to say that I find both equally legible - they are pretty similar displays made by Samsung. In real life usage I'd rate both above average in outdoor sunlight, so no issues there. I'm using the P9 plus today, and it's really sunny outdoors where I am and I can read it quite well with auto brightness. I haven't used the S7 edge for a few weeks but I remember it being fine as well.
It's a really tough call - but if this is your day-to-day driver, and the price is the same, I'd probably say that the Samsung is a safer bet.
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It's a really tough call - but if this is your day-to-day driver, and the price is the same, I'd probably say that the Samsung is a safer bet.
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Yes, really difficult to decide
I also feel that for the same price the s7 would be slightly "safer". Just hating the curved screen... Will try to compare both phones again in some shop and decide.
Thanks again for your help!
I have used Samsungs all Galaxy S top models since the first Galaxy S came out. My last Samsung was Galaxy S6 Edge. Never ever again will i buy a Samsung, awfull battery time, ugly layout, service problems when it breakes. After that i bought my first Huawei, first P8, then Mate8 and now P9+ i have never been more satisfied whith a phone. This is for me the best phone.
BenjamineDupont said:
Why people always compare this two model? I‘m curious~
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Why people always compare this two model? I‘m curious~
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Because I am undecided which phone to buy among these two models.
tsaojam said:
I'm currently using both of these phones (as well as an iphone 6s plus), and there are definitely pros and cons for both. Now overall I'm primarily using the P9 plus, and the reason is that I travel quite a bit so the dual sim function is extremely useful. The problem with the S7 edge is that even the dual sim models only have 32GB, so it's not enough memory. If the S7edge had a 64G dual sim version, it would probably edge out the P9 plus, but only ever so slightly. Let me list some of the pros and cons:
- battery life: The S7 edge has slightly better battery life (my version is the exynos version), but the P9 is very good too, it's just that the S7 edge is excellent. So for me it depends on your usage pattern. With both sims activated, the P9 plus lasts me just through a full day, so having the S7 edge's battery life would be better for me in terms of peace of mind.
- memory: as mentioned the P9 plus comes with 64G so it's the much better choice here if you are not adding a memory card.
- screen: I actually prefer the P9 Plus because it's flat. The S7 edge's edge does get annoying at times and the viewable area feels more comfortable on the P9 plus. Quality is very similar.
-fingerprint sensor: P9 plus. You don't need to press on it and the activation is quicker than the S7. The S7 isn't bad, but it's a step behind the P9 plus and the iphone 6s plus as well. I'm fine with the placement of the button, both locations work well and it's easy to get used to.
- software: P9 plus. The latest touchwiz is ok, but I always slap on Nova, and so overall I actually find the Huawei software to be leaner and quicker. It's one of the fastest Android phones I've used in day-to-day situations. Not sure what type of memory the phone uses, but my P9 plus flies. The Kirin processor is inferior to the exynos but in normal usage I actually feel that the operation feels smoother on the P9 plus. Now I don't play games so I'm sure there's a difference there, but in terms of using apps like instagram, flightradar, google apps, browser, etc. it's at least a tie. I think Huawei's built in battery power manager is also more robust than the Samsung one. When you restrict background processes Huawei really shuts it down. I don't use Samsung's split screen much so for me the lack of it is no big deal. One annoyance of the Huawei though is that I can't figure out how to make notifications display properly in the notification bar. What I mean is for my weather app, it normally can display the weather on the notification strip at the top. On my Huawei, it shows an icon that depicts the app running but not the actual weather information. I can't seem to find a way around this.
- camera: tie. The S7 edge is slightly faster, better in low light, and has sharper details. I however prefer the P9 plus' color rendering and overall picture before zooming in. It's probably because of the lack of ois or something, but when zooming in for example to words on small objects the S7 does a much better job of rendering this. But at the end of the day who's reading the text on small objects? So this one is a tough call. I love the P9 plus' camera effects and overall picture quality, but you've got to be more steady handed in low light. I also love the S7 edge's ability to quickly take a picture and knowing that more likely than not the picture will be quite good. Just to add I basically don't shoot in raw format.
- I haven't rooted my P9 plus, but I have rooted my S7 edge. I don't it's much of an issue as both can be rooted. Haven't had any major issues with either software and they seem to be updated at the same pace.
- build: tie. The P9 plus feels super premium in my opinion, and the S7 edge is a looker. It comes down to whether you like the metal look / feel or the glass look / feel. Having said that you pretty much must have a case for the S7 edge or it's too difficult to hold without accidentally hitting the screen's edge.
- music through headphones: this is actually pretty important for me, and both of these are above average performers. More treble and less bass than the iphone 6s plus in my opinion, but very clean output. So no problems for either on here. I keep Huawei's own music enhance off though - I find that adds way too much bass and distorts the actual quality of the music.
These two phones are definitely the two best Android phones I've ever used, and I've used a lot (I actually also have a G5 but it's purely a music player now...it really cannot compare to either one of these other than the camera). Other than the memory / dual sim issue, I think it purely comes down to:
1. do you play games? the Samsung chip may be better for this
2. How heavy a user are you? the Samsung battery may give you the extra juice needed
3. Screen / typing: the edge screen can definitely be a pain when it comes to typing, which could be the tie breaker that goes in favor of the P9 plus
I guess overall, the Samsung slightly edges the Huawei. If the price similar and you don't need dual sim and the curved screen doesn't bother you, I'd go with the S7 edge. But again the P9 plus is a great phone in its own right.
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YOu should buy Honor V8 AL20 2k version and you would be much more impressed than with P9 plus
if you play 3D heavy games like HIT, the Kirin 955 cant provide 60fps on a 1080p panel, the 2k panel will be worse of with 3d games but if you dont game then the honor v8 sounds good. Or consider the note 7 instead?
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Please feel free to mention any other points about this phone that might help me in making my decision.
Cheers
_ray_ said:
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Please feel free to mention any other points about this phone that might help me in making my decision.
Cheers
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1. i had an OPO and i guess it not supported anymore, but i installed a custom ROM the first day i got it and custom ROM support is amazing, there is still a big community. Guess there wont be many other devices being better off.
2. couldnt be easier. All u need to do is just follow the instruction given for the ROM. Support in this forum is also given.
3. For me the latency is the same as it feels with my gf's pixel phone. Camera i cant say much cuz the only fotos i do is about documents and writings. But these are super easy to read. I have no idea thogh how beautiful pictures will get.
4. what do u mean? there wont be any sales on the phone
I came from the D855 (G3) was a huge step i was going to wait for SD835 smartphone but my phone died, so i wanted something super fast, and unlocked, when i mean unlocked is a company that gives you acess to the hardware this is bootloader unlock, as many companys do NOT, the phone is tremendous fast, fingerprinting in 0.2sec it opens before you blink, the screen looks way better than my G3 which was the first 2k screen, its vivid and bright, dash charging is awesome it charge your phone way to fast xD, its the first phone that i dont need to let it in charger over night, 3.4A battery is more than enought, 8h+ of SOT? i had at must 1.5 to 2h of sot on my D855, huge huge difference, for the moment this is by a large margin the best device you can buy, as for the cameras or any other features i dont care, they do the work just fine, i have a mirrorless camera for photography so i dont care about the camera, its still packs a 16MP on front camera which get you a very sharp face if you are a selfie person, anyother i just got this phone by its hardware, super fast and cheap for a flagship? i spent 439 + karbon case this phone worth every penny, so go for it it feels very nice in the hand, and the metal its of nice quality! it even comes with a screen protector by default thats a nice touch from them! oneplus is a great company you wont Regret it!
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
OnePlus does a decent job but don't expect Nexus-grade updates. You'll mostly be relying on the XDA community.
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
Very Easy. Unlock bootloader from bootloader menu, flash twrp via fastboot, flash a custom rom and that's it.
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
Touchscreen latency was never THAT bad unless you're a pretentious user. You shouldn't worry this because most custom kernels improve it, and at some point it will be fixed completely by OnePlus. Camera is decent, the sensor is the same as the one in V20. It's the processing that sucks compared to other phones, so don't expect much.
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Not sure what you mean. But i'm certain you will be satisfied of the phone for the price paid.
xhitm3n said:
I came from the D855 (G3) was a huge step i was going to wait for SD835 smartphone but my phone died, so i wanted something super fast, and unlocked, when i mean unlocked is a company that gives you acess to the hardware this is bootloader unlock, as many companys do NOT, the phone is tremendous fast, fingerprinting in 0.2sec it opens before you blink, the screen looks way better than my G3 which was the first 2k screen, its vivid and bright, dash charging is awesome it charge your phone way to fast xD, its the first phone that i dont need to let it in charger over night, 3.4A battery is more than enought, 8h+ of SOT? i had at must 1.5 to 2h of sot on my D855, huge huge difference, for the moment this is by a large margin the best device you can buy, as for the cameras or any other features i dont care, they do the work just fine, i have a mirrorless camera for photography so i dont care about the camera, its still packs a 16MP on front camera which get you a very sharp face if you are a selfie person, anyother i just got this phone by its hardware, super fast and cheap for a flagship? i spent 439 + karbon case this phone worth every penny, so go for it it feels very nice in the hand, and the metal its of nice quality! it even comes with a screen protector by default thats a nice touch from them! oneplus is a great company you wont Regret it!
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I was on exactly same situation last week. [emoji2]
_ray_ said:
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Please feel free to mention any other points about this phone that might help me in making my decision.
Cheers
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HI,
Note: I had the op3 and now i am using the op3t from dec.
1. Updates on the op are fairly quick, as of now we have an open beta for 7.1.1 with march security patch. We will be getting the full update sometime in this month.
2.This is where the op devices shine the most.The op community is great,you will get the community app installed on the device. you can find all required the guides for unlocking,roms and troubleshooting there.The op3t has support for all the popular custom roms so you can get the updates asap.
3.The touch latency issue is still there but it is not that bad.The camera is not bad at all.Its a great camera for the price and takes great pics in good light conditions but the low light photos are not that great.If you are a serious camera buff you might be disappointed.
4.After sales is bad here in India. Its handled by a company called servify. Had the op3 and i broke it in 3 weeks of purchase. I had got their one year "accidental damage protection" thingy so i went to the service center fairly optimistic . After looking at the phone they said "the back of your is damaged and we do not cover cosmetic parts under our insurance, we will fix the screen for free". I was angry but agreed to get it fixed any way. After that they say if you want to go through our insurance you have to open a claim via the op app,we cannot do it here. I returned home did what they said and after two days i got a call from some shady insurance company refusing my claim saying there is something wrong with my paperwork.Even after doing all the things they said they still refused it. But I loved my phone so tried to get it repaired any way. Here op3 costs 28k. After making a claim they told me i have to pay 12k for the screen,10k for the back and 1k for repair . Thats 23k,roughly 83% of what i paid for the phone in the first place.
Alek123 said:
1. How often do OP update their phones, do the older model get ignored compared to the new ones ?
OnePlus does a decent job but don't expect Nexus-grade updates. You'll mostly be relying on the XDA community.
2. How easy is it to unlock/flash new roms on this phone, since this will be my primary focus ?
Very Easy. Unlock bootloader from bootloader menu, flash twrp via fastboot, flash a custom rom and that's it.
3. How bad is touchscreen latency and camera performance with latest update ?
Touchscreen latency was never THAT bad unless you're a pretentious user. You shouldn't worry this because most custom kernels improve it, and at some point it will be fixed completely by OnePlus. Camera is decent, the sensor is the same as the one in V20. It's the processing that sucks compared to other phones, so don't expect much.
4. Should I be worried about bad after-sales here in UK ?
Not sure what you mean. But i'm certain you will be satisfied of the phone for the price paid.
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I was having same issue last week but now OK.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
One thing i am quite worried about is that like most companies the older models of OP have been not getting any updates from OP at all, e.g Android 7.0. Also custom ROM development on older models seems to be very slow and most major Dev have moved on to newer models unlike older Nexus which is still supported after all those years. I know I can get Nougat support via custom ROMs but support for old devices is one of the main things I am looking for, since I am planning to keep my phone for at least 2 years.
I think i am going to hold on to my G3 for a bit longer and see what other options are available later on during this year.
_ray_ said:
Thanks for the replies everyone.
One thing i am quite worried about is that like most companies the older models of OP have been not getting any updates from OP at all, e.g Android 7.0. Also custom ROM development on older models seems to be very slow and most major Dev have moved on to newer models unlike older Nexus which is still supported after all those years. I know I can get Nougat support via custom ROMs but support for old devices is one of the main things I am looking for, since I am planning to keep my phone for at least 2 years.
I think i am going to hold on to my G3 for a bit longer and see what other options are available later on during this year.
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Edit: just look at the first OnePlus model and the 7.1.1 roms and kernels that are available and beeing actively supported, this is a 3 year old phone.
If you`re always looking for the next big thing or latest technology you can never ever buy a phone again. There will always be new devices that will be released throughout the year I ordered mine (coming from a iPhone 7 Plus) because i think and according to the reviews its a solid phone for a descent price.
Hi all, anyone here who were previous sony owners? i just need some opinions regarding EMUI, build quality, durability differences between these two brands. I'm planning to upgrade this year to the p10/p10 plus once it's released and was wondering how it differs in terms of features and usability?
I was user of Sony and Sony Ericsson almost from start. From ""recent"" Sony devices I had Xperia Z, Z3 and compact version, and last year for some time I used XZ and Galaxy S7 when I wanted to buy new phone... and I choosed P9 instead, and probably like you, I jump to P10 (or even plus version) after it show up.
1. Build Quality, Huawei is on pair with Xperias, and in some ways, especially fitting of elements, its even better than some Xperias, that after year just... move or dont fit like before. I also drop my P9 few times and I have only one 2mm scratch on side after it hit rock in park... it was miracle that it dropped like that because normally phones fall on screen...
2. Materials? I would call it draw again, they are very good quality, especially screen that is really though, after all those years I realized that even if two phones use some fancy gorilla screen name... they are different in terms of quality and how they manage scratches.
3. Camera? Sony have best sensors, but worst algorithms you can imagine. Last good Sony camera in phone I saw in Xperia Arc S, after that they just get one really bad drivers and copy/paste it to every phone. Huawei in other hand, especially in P9, beat a crap of Xperias, even the new one. Its fast, it have nice algorithms that dont mess quality, it have LOTS of options, and you get almost perfect details and colors if you know how to handle it.
4. Screen. I could say that XZ have really nice screen, P9 is also nice, but... it just lack some "punch" in terms of brightness and colors. Not much but, I can say that galaxy S7 blown my mind in terms of quality of screen, but even that was not enough to buy it. In every day usage P9 dont give any troubles, even on direct sun, so I could say that compared to XZ its overall draw again...
5. Performance.... Xperias are really simple and give you that "almost stock" experience, but even XZ, just like Z3 have that slow down without a reason and it can actually lag in simple task like using browser. In more demanding task it can work really good, but P9 even with slower GPU is not behind it at all! I was actually surprised that it P9 work so fluid and even VR games dont give it much troubles. Also P9 in everyday usage is really amazing, no hangs at all. That was one of key point why i choose it, because even S7 had that slow downs when doing simple task not related to games or other heavy tasks. From addons like Fingerprint sensor(that is damn fast) rest is perfect, no problems at all... Also speed of camera on Xperias are really average, camera app is just sluggish, and the same with starting phone. Xperia XZ needed x2 time more to boot up than P9
6. Software. Here is a bit tricky choose, because Xperia UI is simple and nice, and Sony have nice update policy, and it have really good customization community, but its a bit slow sometimes without a reason and after I switched to EMUI... i found out that Xperias where really... outdated and stripped from most of options. Even if Huawei update system is... just slow and weird, EMUI have loots of customization options, simple way to theme it without any complications, build in applications are really nice and easy to use and overall it give that perfect experience of good phone system. You can hear that some people have problems with EMIU 5 after update... but Its nothing new, when I had xperias, it was the same, ALWAYS about 25% of people whine about "bad" update. EMUI 5.0 is just perfect if you update it properly. Simple as that.
7. Battery life... Here Sony literally F up xperias. As far as older Xperias like Z3 and its compact version had amazing battery life, when I used XZ... it was just... average, After day and a half I had 15-20% And for past good 5 years, I literally use the same apps over and over so it give me some nice look of how battery life work in every day usage on all phones.
And here come P9 that, true, after update to EMIU 5.0 its a bit worst compared to 4.1.1, but its difference of less than 10% I still can get with my P9 solid two days of usage and I still have about 20% left without turning off any features like NFC or Bluetooth.
I just have small tip to make it even better: in App setting section, just turn off internet access to all apps that dont need it, and use optimization option every day. Huawei P9 is just in top10 if you looking for device with good battery optimization. And I think they will do the same with P10.
Also worth mention is charging. I found out that xperias always charge slower and it almost stop charging if you use phone in the same time. my p9 with stock charger can get almost full in... hour or two AND STILL charge so fast if I use it in that time!
So yeah, as a user of Sony, and now Hauwei device, I can say that Huawei is what Sony was few years ago.
Because Sony now give us average devices that maybe are nice made, but are overpriced and with every generation some key features are "worst" or the same as previous ones.
Huawei in other hand give us nice made devices, with nice price tag, some amazing features(like camera in P9) and what I wanted most: stable and good experience in everyday usage, even if their update policy is a bit average... But most of people whine that they need new udpate that beside adding new number in phone info... work the same, so im not mad if I need to wait that month or two more to get that new number...
Overall that why I choosed P9 instead of XZ and galaxy S7(that actually was just 10Euro cheaper(promotion), but even if screen was AMAZING... it was just... not what I expected from it). P9 is stable and reliable and have few features that I need in phone, and P9 give me what I need.
@Akinaro Im not the one who asked, but thank you for taking time to write such a rich response Coming from a load of phones (lg g4, galaxy s6 being the latest) I can say that p9 is certainly a full package. Everything I want is ticked, no big complaints at all.
Hi @Akinaro, thank you so much for this really detailed comparison between the two! I was kind of hesitant at first because i really like Sony's build and UI after moving from Samsung. But as you said, ever since after Z3, nothing really peaked my interest, especially battery life. So I'm moving to Huawei since it's the only phone that somehow interested me.
As for updates, i have no problems with late to never. I've never updated my Z3 from Kitkat 4.4.4 because as you said and as i have read in various forums updates usually screws up with the performance of the phone.
Hopefully, the upcoming P10/P10 plus would have great battery life as well. As it's one of the features i'm looking for in a phone. Thanks again for the great input!
I just switched from Z2 to P9, and I have nothing to complain. I was a fan of Sony for years, my first one being an Xperia Acro S.
Eventually the battery from Z2 went bad, and I needed something new. Sony's phones had been disappointing me lately, so it was no more an option.
The P9 was my choice because of the camera, and the option to shoot RAW. It's nice to have a good camera with me, even when I'm not carrying my DSLR.
Design and build quality are nice, and I like the software too. I never used the app drawer even in the Z2
Only downside was the keyboard, but I installed the Xperia keyboard from XDA
I have to agree @Kimelsson . So far, Sony's recent releases have been disappointing. Though i have no doubt that their cameras had improved a bit, somehow something is lacking. i think its the contrast. I'm not sure.
Yes! i also wanted the ability to shoot raw which is why i wanted to try something different this time. I was considering the iphone 7 but the lack of fast charge, average battery life, AND omission of 3.5mm audio jack was enough to push me away.
Really? Does the keyboard work with no problem?
I used sony xperia e4g z1c z3 z5 and now p9. I can honestly say that p9 is the best in them. İn every condition and term. Even better than z5.
It's a great phone and most impressive is SD 835 in it but today I found a deal on my local used market for 250$. He'll, I want to buy it but I don't know why it's so cheap. I am getting he'll of a deal here but is it any good?
I read comments on Amazon and many said it's having a heating problem. I want to buy a good phone for gaming as my Moto Z Play couldn't able to handle pubg very well.
One more thing is that the xda community had igoned Nokia 8, it doesn't have a single official custom ROM or recovery. Phone is good but all this things keeping me from not buying it. I want to know is it any good to buy a used one for 250$?
XDA community hasn't ignored it so much as Nokia/HMD haven't allowed the bootloader to be unlocked
The phone's principal other flaw is that the camera isn't great. Both the stock camera software (post processing, features) and the sensor aren't up to the quality you would expect of a 2017 flagship or even (for the most part) the Galaxy S6 I upgraded from. Until now running modded Google cam has allievated the software side, and there's an update rolling out from Friday that will add camera functionality and hopefully improve the processing and the use of the monochrome sensor. I wouldn't expect miracles though.
Other than those points this is a solid phone. The screen is a nice IPS that does good blacks, accurate colours and is capable of very high brightness. There is no heating problem and in fact this is the coolest phone I've ever used, it's a challenge to make this thing heat up. Software is as close to stock you'll get on a non-Google device. SnapDragon 835 blasts through anything you might want to do. Headphone jack seems to supply a lot of power and music sounds clean and clear. Nokia has been good with updates thus far, releasing OS and security updates better than any non-Google phone afaik.
I also found a great deal for a Nokia 8 6gb ram 128gb internal for 250$. Still thinking if i should give up my Moto Z Play for this Nokia
if quality(which can be improved with a new app) of photos is not your top priority, then you should definitely buy this one.
Manish355 said:
It's a great phone and most impressive is SD 835 in it but today I found a deal on my local used market for 250$. He'll, I want to buy it but I don't know why it's so cheap. I am getting he'll of a deal here but is it any good?
I read comments on Amazon and many said it's having a heating problem. I want to buy a good phone for gaming as my Moto Z Play couldn't able to handle pubg very well.
One more thing is that the xda community had igoned Nokia 8, it doesn't have a single official custom ROM or recovery. Phone is good but all this things keeping me from not buying it. I want to know is it any good to buy a used one for 250$?
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Nothing went wrong, it was a loss leader to get the Nokia brand up and running and noticed again.
Best phone i have owned apart from the camera in low light but the new camera app may help with that.
It's a great phone for gaming...I play pubg mobile on the maximum settings with extreme FPS settings and it's silky smooth... It does warm up a little but less then any other phone I've had while gaming, the one and only issue I have with this phone is that the power button has a little bit of rattle/play and that drives my OCD crazy.
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I also found a great deal for a Nokia 8 6gb ram 128gb internal for 250$. Still thinking if i should give up my Moto Z Play for this Nokia
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I couldn't decide too, but i think i need to give up my Moto Z Play for PUBG. And SD835 is future proof too. I don't use camera that much so it's not an issue for me, i think it should be a good deal.
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It's a great phone for gaming...I play pubg mobile on the maximum settings with extreme FPS settings and it's silky smooth... It does warm up a little but less then any other phone I've had while gaming, the one and only issue I have with this phone is that the power button has a little bit of rattle/play and that drives my OCD crazy.
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Thanks bro, i wanted to know how PUBG runs on Nokia 8, i am gonna buy it. Only thing thats i'm scared of is Custom ROMs. I like to flash different ROMs. Man, i need to choose between Customization and Gaming.
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XDA community hasn't ignored it so much as Nokia/HMD haven't allowed the bootloader to be unlocked
The phone's principal other flaw is that the camera isn't great. Both the stock camera software (post processing, features) and the sensor aren't up to the quality you would expect of a 2017 flagship or even (for the most part) the Galaxy S6 I upgraded from. Until now running modded Google cam has allievated the software side, and there's an update rolling out from Friday that will add camera functionality and hopefully improve the processing and the use of the monochrome sensor. I wouldn't expect miracles though.
Other than those points this is a solid phone. The screen is a nice IPS that does good blacks, accurate colours and is capable of very high brightness. There is no heating problem and in fact this is the coolest phone I've ever used, it's a challenge to make this thing heat up. Software is as close to stock you'll get on a non-Google device. SnapDragon 835 blasts through anything you might want to do. Headphone jack seems to supply a lot of power and music sounds clean and clear. Nokia has been good with updates thus far, releasing OS and security updates better than any non-Google phone afaik.
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Wow, even bootloader is not possible to unlock on the phone. I am scared that I'd be bored after some time of using it. But, i think the most important thing for me would be gaming than flashing custom ROMs. I'd be buying it soon.
hey guys, mate is still best! What do you think???
https://youtu.be/6EHQvYTKSWo
i picked mate 20 pro because the the camera punch hole in the s10 would drive me completely insane, worst design i've ever seen on a phone i think
mate 20 here would trade if i could
s10+ becausemy opinion only)
its newer
best battery :less capacity but better performance
best sound: louder and clearer
best screen : its a samsung nothing can beat this guys
camera photo same results dxomarks but its release firmware so it will get even better
best selfie by far
best video by far: we all know mate 20 pro is very bad
best 4k and 4k60fps: jelly efect on mate. cant deal with 4k60fps
best slow mo not fake 960. mate 20 pro was a interpollated 240 fps to seem it is making 960 fps
i have a mate 20 pro because what i said was kinda valid instead of note 9 some months ago.
mate 30 or even p30 pro i think will beat s10+
this is a 3 months king phone period so what you choose today in months it will be old news.
Yeah, the s10+ on paper is better than mate 20 pro.
Better screen, a faster chip, louder speakers, better camera software ( imo mate 20 raw camera performance is better),...
But in day to day use there will not be any huge differences except the punch hole display vs notch. With that said most of the games or apps I use even with the hole punch u will have black bars on the side, hell even youtube app has those unless u are willing to zoom in and cut part of the video (I hate all those reviews on youtube that zoom in the content just for the sake of having it fullscreen while in reality u will have to deal with blackbars if u dont want to cut off the top and bottom).
One thing I absolutely love it about the mate 20 pro but others seems to sleep on is the charging speed. I usually fall as sleep while watching random stuffs on my phone at night. And this is when super charge come in to save my ass. It charges a whooping 70% after my brushing, showering and shaving routine in the next morning. Im doubted the s10+ or even future note 10 could do the same. For me thats a game changer, now I can freely enjoy my sleep without waking up in the middle of the night remembering havent charge the phone yet.
I have the S10 plus arriving this week.
Ultimately it will be nice to have a proper functional always on display again, the lack of this on the Mate 20 pro has become something that bugs me every day and if Huawei added a proper AOD I'd probably cancel my S10 pre-order. It will also be nice have the volume sync properly on my bluetooth headphones.
Is a shame as the Mate 20 pro gets so much right.
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I have the S10 plus arriving this week.
Ultimately it will be nice to have a proper functional always on display again, the lack of this on the Mate 20 pro has become something that bugs me every day and if Huawei added a proper AOD I'd probably cancel my S10 pre-order. It will also be nice have the volume sync properly on my bluetooth headphones.
Is a shame as the Mate 20 pro gets so much right.
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wow, orders a new phone just because of AOD? do you have to much money or sever OCD ither way hope u like your new s10+
yes i'm jelly
I will obviously be selling the Mate if I keep the S10+ I'm not made of money!
AOD is a feature that I value, hoped I'd get used to it on the M20 pro maybe if the LED was not so small I would have but ultimately it just continues to bug me.
Overall I think the S10+ is the better phone except for not having proper face unlock.
Huawei really do need to up their AOD game but can't see it happening.
I don't think the hole punch design would bother me. I've never been bothered by notches (I had an iPhone X before the M20pro.)
Still, I can't upgrade until November so will see what the Mate 30 Pro has to offer.
3D face unlock is a gimmick of the past, from now on manufacturers will rely on Under display sensors and maximizing screen to body ratio in the coming years, Samsung is light years ahead in terms of UX and unmatched audio/video quality for android device, although they slack with implementing new camera tech, it's a choice
i just got the mate 20 pro with my carrier . To get the s10 would of costed me 500$ extra so for me it was an easy decision to get the mate 20 pro.
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I have the S10 plus arriving this week.
Ultimately it will be nice to have a proper functional always on display again, the lack of this on the Mate 20 pro has become something that bugs me every day and if Huawei added a proper AOD I'd probably cancel my S10 pre-order. It will also be nice have the volume sync properly on my bluetooth headphones.
Is a shame as the Mate 20 pro gets so much right.
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2 things that are prolly the weakest points on this phone. However I have decided to keep the mate 20 pro (for now though I'm very tempted) and not get the s10 plus. For me the best feature of the mate is the super charge vs the slow ass charge on the s10. Like another poster above mentioned, I have not micro managed this phone charge wise ever since I got it. I used to charge all my Samsungs every night to 100 but on this phone I never do!
Also, I love the fact that EMUI desktop can be done wirelessly unlike the s10 plus Dex. There's just too many things that I really love about the mate. I have been on ever Galaxy s and note device ever been out. I just came from the note 9 , which is collecting dust, to the mate 20 pro and I really really love this phone. From the way it feels in the hand (it's still slimmer by about 2mm compared to the s10 plus, to the way it looks. I think it's very unique looking and much better than the generic looking s10. Also the mate is a beast and I still think that EMUI (no matter how much people hate it) is a far more optimized and efficient software than Samsung's. I'm running Nova launcher and I have it set just the way I like it, so EMUI doesn't give me anything negative, only the positive such as awesome battery management, supeer fast and responsive interact interface, etc...
What are others folks thoughts on this??
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2 things that are prolly the weakest points on this phone. However I have decided to keep the mate 20 pro (for now though I'm very tempted) and not get the s10 plus. For me the best feature of the mate is the super charge vs the slow ass charge on the s10. Like another poster above mentioned, I have not micro managed this phone charge wise ever since I got it. I used to charge all my Samsungs every night to 100 but on this phone I never do!
Also, I love the fact that EMUI desktop can be done wirelessly unlike the s10 plus Dex. There's just too many things that I really love about the mate. I have been on ever Galaxy s and note device ever been out. I just came from the note 9 , which is collecting dust, to the mate 20 pro and I really really love this phone. From the way it feels in the hand (it's still slimmer by about 2mm compared to the s10 plus, to the way it looks. I think it's very unique looking and much better than the generic looking s10. Also the mate is a beast and I still think that EMUI (no matter how much people hate it) is a far more optimized and efficient software than Samsung's. I'm running Nova launcher and I have it set just the way I like it, so EMUI doesn't give me anything negative, only the positive such as awesome battery management, supeer fast and responsive interact interface, etc...
What are others folks thoughts on this??
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I am on the fence re S10 vs the plus. The normal 10 looks a great size and is slightly smaller than the mate too. I too had the Note, it was a beast but I managed it, it was also easier in the hand vs say the Xs max, I have also had the S9 plus. There is something about the normal S10 or Mate though that falls into that goldilocks zone size wise. I think the bigger phones are nice with the larger screen but even if you ignore the one-handed use thing they are also more of a burden to carry around at times.
I'm concerned re the camera and expect the mate to have the better shooter. The battery management on the Mate will also be better I think even if it does come with the downside of it sometimes shutting down apps that you do not want it too.
I'm currently in the same boat to renew my contract with my service provider and really struggle with the decision which phone to pick...
IMHO the Mate 20 Pro is still the best phone out there, but Huawei's and FunkyHuawei's recent stupidities are both not making this decision very easy.
I currently own a Sony and was always happy with it and their software / firmware update policy and speed, except for the bootloader unlock, which wipes a DRM key and breaks some phone capabilities, which can't be restored anymore. For older phones it's still possible to circumvent that, but forget it on newer phones. That drived me away from Sony and although I really love the Mate 20 Pro's specs and internals... I think I would have a very hard time without an unlocked bootloader. F***, why are companies so stupid?!
That said... and although I'm not a Samsung fanboy... I'm that close to just turn around from this phone and choose an S10 model or pick an LG instead. Also for a higher price... Currently I'm just desperately waiting if anybody provides a bootloader unlock service for Huawei and that recent dark chapter for this brand becomes again less relevant.
My 5 cents...
As far as I see it, Samsung is the Apple of Android so won't touch them. Never been one to go for the companies with the biggest advertising budgets mainly HTC's and Sony's perviously and now on the Mate 20 Pro and so far it's been exactly what I thought it would be. Some reviewers go on about how bad the EMUI skin is, can't say I'm too bothered, if I have to tap the screen once more than a Samsung device to get to a particular setting (you know one that's "buried deep down" in the system) then I'm sure I'll live. The S10+ is basically a Mate 20 pro with newer internals that give marginally better performance levels, in the real world there's no difference - you might lose 0.01 of a second opening an app - if that's too long to wait you might have to re-evaluate where you are right now Both phones will still be holding their own in two years time and with the Mate's price dropping steadily you could pick one up for £200 less than the S10+, is there that much of a difference between the two? No, paying £200 more for a name is the preserve of the rich or daft, and I'm neither of those
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As far as I see it, Samsung is the Apple of Android so won't touch them. Never been one to go for the companies with the biggest advertising budgets mainly HTC's and Sony's perviously [...] No, paying £200 more for a name is the preserve of the rich or daft, and I'm neither of those
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I could not agree more to the statements. Same as you I have also always chosen the underdogs (loved my HTC Desire HD by the way), but when you seriously start to think who actually are the current bad guys, I would not name Samsung first. IMHO companies should ship their phones with an unlocked bootloader and not penalize the users for unlocking their phones (Sony) or not allow them to do so (Huawei). If it would be still possible to get the unlock codes I wouldn't even think twice which phone to pick. Sadly as things stand I have to confess to consider buying my first Samsung phone. LG would also be an option, but the problem on the latter is as well, that they simply don't allow to unlock every of their phones... Crap...
The lack of proper face unlock on the S10 might be a deal breaker. It's now been proved to be really insecure. The face unlock on the Mate is amazing.
Apart from that, the phones are really similar.
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The lack of proper face unlock on the S10 might be a deal breaker. It's now been proved to be really insecure. The face unlock on the Mate is amazing.
Apart from that, the phones are really similar.
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*100000
Love my mate 20 pro, I was fortunate I didn't have the green screen problem! I do like switching phones but brought it outright and just on a monthly sim only contract for £10 a month.
As others have said, I used to charge my old Samsung's to 100% every night, I top mine up and normally keep mine between 25-85% doesn't really matter where as I have the 40w charger at work and home and can get that 50% in about 20 mins.
Love the phone wide angle & telephoto cameras, the reviews are raving about these on the s10plus but seem to forget these were already available for years on the LG G series and the mate 20 pro since Sept last year. I know there is a slightly wider FOV on the S10plus.
Going to keep going with the mate 20 pro battery has not seen any performance degrade over the 6 months I've had it too which is great, with Nova launcher I don't use the EMUI.
I choose s10+.
because finger reader better other phone. But I like face Id in iphone. Mate 20 pro face id is a joke.
And green screen problem, I skip mate 20 pro.
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I choose s10+.
Mate 20 pro face id is a joke.
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Yeah, right.
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