[Question] ¿The best nougat stock/debloated/light rom? - Xiaomi Redmi 4X Questions & Answers

EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.

Wence-kun said:
EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.
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Aex official Oreo or pixel experience

Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.

Google search Loup 14.1 for santoni.
It is by noyer,father of development on santoni.
For some reason he isn't on XDA but his ROM is what you need you can follow him on github and twitter though.He even managed to port Sailfish Os for Santoni. I'm using Loup 14 with clarity kernel and experience is awesome.

peron said:
Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.
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correct..i thought to suggest the questioner...but you did before me. by the way, once rooted the Stock ROM? all bloat-wares from google and Mi can be removed...Battery and Phone performance everything is good.
even i tried a some recent official releases of Oreo 8.1 for R4x , first few days everything good, later Battery life tarts in consistency. so, i back to stock but removed all Google and Mi's apps ..only very few mi services still existing on my rom, if i delete them my phone gets locked and i need to do everything from scratch again, so i let them persist... Go for stable miui global 9.2 and keep remove the stock bloatwares.
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Best ROM for this device

Hi All,
What's the best working ROM for this device?
Do we know why Miui 8 for this phone is only Android 5.1.1?
Does Mr.Ivan's AOSP 6.0.1 work better than Miui? Some people say yes, some say no.
I feel like I bought a phone that's gotten tossed aside by devs like a used cum rag.
Anyone running anything that's not got a thread here?
Zorthos said:
Hi All,
What's the best working ROM for this device?
Do we know why Miui 8 for this phone is only Android 5.1.1?
Does Mr.Ivan's AOSP 6.0.1 work better than Miui? Some people say yes, some say no.
I feel like I bought a phone that's gotten tossed aside by devs like a used cum rag.
Anyone running anything that's not got a thread here?
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Ivan 6.0.1 is the best, just you need to deal with its Permissions problems initially and later use the Location Fix from the thread and use Open Camera or any from Gplay instead of stock one... running flawless for me, even Xposed works normally...
Ivan's 6.0.1 is great. But i have a problem with battery life and gps. But i have a good experience with smiui. But I have feiled installaing xposed framwork. I wanna try unofficial cyanogenmod 13. Any experience, anybody ?
I have the same question + some additional request
Which one support device encryption and not being rooted
I need thos two to access my company email
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Smiui rom is very stable and fine. But I wanna other custom rom. Is There?
Aung Zin Phyo 1990 said:
Smiui rom is very stable and fine. But I wanna other custom rom. Is There?
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smiui contains code full of adverts and back doors. Don't use it!
you could use instead xiaomi.eu weekly rom or miuipro.ru ROM.
Any other ROMs that are not based on MIUI are very bad and not daily driver.
I love my phone so much. It's Mi Note Pro. MIUI is a good rom, EU, MI-GLOBE and Stock. But I felt like I wasn't satisfied until I tried this MOKEE.
I read many replies from all forum about MOKEE about how this rom affected their Mi Note Pros which they said it's slow, not stable and the temprature is hot. But Not until I tried and I keep this rom is installed to my mi note pro.
At first, the temprature was always hot and slow. It'a around 35c to 45c. I switched to root and installed xposed framework and greenify. The phone's temp is 28-29c at standby and around 35c when use.
The battery life is the most important thing !
I use amplify and battery saver 2017 . It's about the same life when I used MIUI, I'll say even better.
But I downloaded the rom directly from MOKEE website.
My opinion, I'll stick with MOKEE
You guys should try MOKEE
Thanks so much to MOKEE DEV
mr. IVANS aosp V7
Best rom
i flash yesterday.
a daily driver and up to date.
little bugs - but cosmetic
Best Regads from Germany NRW
eike
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Although Miui are no longer updated but I want to say that the Miui is still the perfect choice in Mainland China, but if you are out of China, try and get some stock Android Roms such as ivan which you have mentioned. It may work smoother and better.

What's the problem with the original ROM?

HI,
it's my first post here, i've bought a xiaomi x4, 4gb ram version, and i'm wondering which Operating System should i use in my phone; i come fom an iphone 4s so i'm glad to have the opportunity to install an open-source SO. I see lots of costum roms and really great stuff but i use the phone just for the browsing, e-mails, messages and phone calls so the phone has to be fast and stable; Reading around shows me that costum rom means "eventual problem with stability and functions...crashes.." and so i'm questioning myself, what's the problem with the official xiaomi global rom? does it have logger or something? and maybe it's possible to install a fresh standard version of an android open os or it has to be "coded" or "ported" for my xiaomi hardware?
Thanks in advance for any answer
Official MIUI is full of bloatware: China apps, useless Google apps, Facebook and MS office preinstalled and such. For your need, I recommend trying Resurrection Remix 7.1.2 if you like the look and cleaned from any xiaomi apps, else try xiaomi.eu MIUI ROM, or MIUIpro rom for unbloated software with good performance and battery life. without sacrificing features.
NTLinhHaHa said:
Official MIUI is full of bloatware: China apps, useless Google apps, Facebook and MS office preinstalled and such. For your need, I recommend trying Resurrection Remix 7.1.2 if you like the look and cleaned from any xiaomi apps, else try xiaomi.eu MIUI ROM, or MIUIpro rom for unbloated software with good performance and battery life. without sacrificing features.
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thank for the reply! ok definitely no official xiaomi rom! i'll give it try...but i have another question Can i install a fresh/clean (possible with no adds) installation of a supported os and then try to learn to add/delete my suitable features? and what's os do you recommend?Nougat? Oreo?
SkunkHunt said:
thank for the reply! ok definitely no official xiaomi rom! i'll give it try...but i have another question Can i install a fresh/clean (possible with no adds) installation of a supported os and then try to learn to add/delete my suitable features? and what's os do you recommend?Nougat? Oreo?
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Not really. Try to get used to one. I'd recommend miuipro or xiaomi.eu rom if you want to stick to MIUI. If you want to try AOSP Nougat, I highly recommend official Resurrection Remix 7.1.2. On Oreo, I dont know, you could try Pixel Experience or Nitrogen. But I recommend sticking to Nougat, either MIUI or AOSP.
ok i understand! i think i'll gonna try miui rom.eu and Kernel Clarity, they seems interesting! and for AOSP did you mean This?
Well if you are just a casual user, i would recommend you to stay with the latest official miui rom. Its the most stable, fast and snappy rom for this device. Its ui is similar to iOS.
As Far as bloatware is concerned, if you can unlock its bootloader, boot(not flash) twrp through pc, flash magisk and then uninstall all bloatware.
Else just put them all in one folder and cut off background data for them.
I personally won't recommend you to flash custom rom unless you want to taste pure Android ui because custom roms are not as refined as official roms.
Rest is upto you!
Naveenjain said:
Well if you are just a casual user, i would recommend you to stay with the latest official miui rom. Its the most stable, fast and snappy rom for this device. Its ui is similar to iOS.
As Far as bloatware is concerned, if you can unlock its bootloader, boot(not flash) twrp through pc, flash magisk and then uninstall all bloatware.
Else just put them all in one folder and cut off background data for them.
I personally won't recommend you to flash custom rom unless you want to taste pure Android ui because custom roms are not as refined as official roms.
Rest is upto you!
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this seems to me a wise advice! thank you! but what about just the kernel, it's the same argument? i think i'll start with your solution, baby steps!
SkunkHunt said:
this seems to me a wise advice! thank you! but what about just the kernel, it's the same argument? i think i'll start with your solution, baby steps!
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yes and no. If a custom kernel is providing you a feature which is very essential for your usage(like fast charging or something), you can go ahead. Else there is no problem with stock one.
Another thing is stock kernel is GENERALLY safe from technical viewpoint. Custom kernels may/may not be safe because some of them just experiment with the device's voltage and other essential values which were earlier optimised scientifically. Flashing those may not be safe at all. So do your research really really well before flashing anything custom coz they might damage your device (that's rare, but still!)
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Also, whether you step into this flashing world or not, never forget to backup your stock system, boot, efs and recovery. I have had experiences where my device just got dead without any reason. And that too without tampering anything. Everything stock with no flashing and locked bootloader.
Try AOSP ROM for pure android experience. (I'm using AOSP Extended with Oreo 8.1, work like a charm!)
finally my phone has arrived and i figured out that i bought a redmi NOTE 4x...to which section do i refer on this forum? the redmi note 4 or redmi 4x?
By the way i have a miui global 9.5 and i like it, very fast and smart! i don't see "chinese bloatware", what did you mean exactly?
Naveenjain said:
[/COLOR]Also, whether you step into this flashing world or not, never forget to backup your stock system, boot, efs and recovery. I have had experiences where my device just got dead without any reason. And that too without tampering anything. Everything stock with no flashing and locked bootloader.
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How can i do all this things?

Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?

Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
Facuu said:
Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
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My Mi 9T Pro is now under the latest beta from xiaomi.eu. Although it may be similar to stock ROM, I have frozen 69 apps (what you refer as google and bloatware).
I have tried a few smaller custom ROMs and most gave me bootloops probably because I did not install gapps. Why would I want to leave a nicely working xiaomi.eu beta ROM for something else which requires gapps and has more bugs ?
Miui.eu miui custom rom: No downsides.
AOSP based custom rom: Less battery life, instability, worse navigation gestures, most likely bootloops if you do something wrong.
Currently I'd stick to miui.eu until our device stops getting official updates. And even a year or so after that. I am a big fan of AOSP software, but it's just not as good for our device.
This all depends on personal preference and philosophy.
Some people prefer to follow the engineering prime directive: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
You do say the device is working great, so...
The other school follows the concept of: "if it ain't broke, tweak it until it is".
and you do say you can't stand it, so maybe you belong to the second group.
Then clearly a custom rom is the only alternative you have.
Some ROMs are pretty stable and contrary to the opinion of the previous comment, users report equal or better battery life.
The only 3 real complaints I have heard about are a. the fingerprint sensor performance (and even then reports vary widely), b. lack of OTA and problems with dirty flashing, and c. no android auto support.
Camera is same or better with ANX or Gcam.
True, the fact there were 4, now 3, different firmwares and SKUs greatly hurt and slowed down development and testing for this device, and also the timing with the release of Android10,
but some official releases exist and custom ROMs are slowly getting there.
If you really can't stand google, I recommend you to check out LineageOS or SyberiaOS with MicroG.
It will take fiddling, reading online and troubleshooting, but other than time it costs you nothing.
Worst case, you can always go back to Miui.
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
>Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?
Flashing drivers manually is a major pain in the ass for me. These days OTA from custom ROMs are seemless and automatic. Otherwise it used to be another major problem with it. Another problem might be you might brick your phone. Another major problem is that none of the custom ROMs for this device are perfect and bug free. I am only sticking with MIUI for this specific reason.
jhs39 said:
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
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I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I agree, Revos is a very good stable MIUI ROM. Never found an issue with it, and there default kernel is good (on Pocophone F1).
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I don't think the devs of REV OS want their ROM on XDA. Many devs soured on XDA and stopped maintaining ROM threads here.
At this point most of the ROMs on XDA are either unofficial or are threads that aren't created, maintained or supported by the Devs actually responsible for the ROMs.
And part of the user agreement for most ROMs that maintain their own website is that you are forbidden from creating any external links for those ROMs.

suggestions for custom ROM´s (everday use, Cam)

Hi guys,
actually, I´m trying to bring my Mi9 back to life with a new battery. Since now, I´m on xiaomi.eu 12.5.6.
In order to keep my Mi9 updated, I tried to figure out, which Custom ROM I´d go for. Criteria are every day use (stability, battery lifetime, smoothness, security updates). Conclusion after reading the threads is that most official 11.0 ROMs do very well (for example crDroid, Havoc, …). Since twrp still doesn´t support encryption, I´d go for 11.0.
Another point is a good cam out of the box (using all lenses and features and compareable to stock quality). Or do I need to install gcam to reach this goal?
Thx in advance for suggestions, I know the question for „best ROM“ is pretty much too simple, but I´d like to get a starting point…
how did you get xiaomi.eu 12.5.6? I saw only chinese
woullerwhat said:
how did you get xiaomi.eu 12.5.6? I saw only chinese
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MIUI 12.0 - MIUI 12.0/12.1/12.2/12.5 STABLE RELEASE
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Question What is the most stable ROM for this phone right now?

Please recommend me a ROM to daily.
In previous phones I've enjoyed Pixel Experience, PixelPlus and am a big fan of LineageOS.
Of course, I'd prefer to keep fast-charging functionality and be on the latest android.
Thanks!
Hello.
You can try ArrowOS 12.1(Android 12).
This rom is very smooth and stable,fast charge works on it.
giorgostrc said:
Please recommend me a ROM to daily.
In previous phones I've enjoyed Pixel Experience, PixelPlus and am a big fan of LineageOS.
Of course, I'd prefer to keep fast-charging functionality and be on the latest android.
Thanks!
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[ROM][13.0] crDroid 9 [OFFICIAL]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned Features: * Encrypted build * Vanilla build (no gapps) * Selinux enforcing and Safety net passes by default * More info - Click here First Time...
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I use Evolution X and works like a charm.
yo, and what about the cameras ?
Last time I installed lineage OS on my phone, only one camera was recognized et everything was buggy
tidusdu25 said:
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Last time I installed lineage OS on my phone, only one camera was recognized ...
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This has nothing to do with the stability of a custom rom, but with the hardware of your smartphone.
With every batch Xiaomi change hardware. Not every custom rom can or will follow these changes.
tidusdu25 said:
yo, and what about the cameras ?
Last time I installed lineage OS on my phone, only one camera was recognized et everything was buggy
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Los A13 is very stable and perfekt battery with newest sleepy kernel. Clean flash is mandatory.
For Camera take gcam with an XML of gcam thread and all cams are working
Laptapper said:
Los A13 is very stable and perfekt battery with newest sleepy kernel. Clean flash is mandatory.
For Camera take gcam with an XML of gcam thread and all cams are working
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Do you have every links to download files?
tidusdu25 said:
Do you have every links to download files?
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They are all in gcam, los and kernel threads in this forum.
Bumping this thread to ask the same question in light of new circumstances (my apologies):
I've been looking through all these threads lately to find a custom ROM for my usage before unlocking the bootloader, but recently I noticed that almost every Android 12 ROM is discontinued so the devs can work on A13 or for other reasons, so now I can't find any threads that have that in context.
In other words my question is, what is a stable enough ROM now that most are discontinued? Taking into context the spoofing no longer works in the latest ArrowOS 12.1 build which causes extreme battery drain by the Google Play Services.
If it helps, the uses/needs I basically seek are mainly Camera/Audio/Battery. I dont care for gaming one bit in my personal case.
Thank you and sorry for repeating the same question. I just want to drop MIUI and can't find an answer.
Junderbalt said:
Bumping this thread to ask the same question in light of new circumstances (my apologies):
I've been looking through all these threads lately to find a custom ROM for my usage before unlocking the bootloader, but recently I noticed that almost every Android 12 ROM is discontinued so the devs can work on A13 or for other reasons, so now I can't find any threads that have that in context.
In other words my question is, what is a stable enough ROM now that most are discontinued? Taking into context the spoofing no longer works in the latest ArrowOS 12.1 build which causes extreme battery drain by the Google Play Services.
If it helps, the uses/needs I basically seek are mainly Camera/Audio/Battery. I dont care for gaming one bit in my personal case.
Thank you and sorry for repeating the same question. I just want to drop MIUI and can't find an answer.
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I am the same but I couldn't find any answer , I think the best is to stick with miui after debloating and customization I tried some roms based on miui but they are equally bad miuimix and elite rom
I found this thread while researching, you might want to give it a try
my perfect combination rom and kernel !!
hi guys, sorry for open thread, but i'm excited.. is the first time that i found this incredible results and i want share with you! i have note10pro (sweet).. i tryed more more rom.. miui, eu, arrow, pixel, crdroid, arcana, etc.. vendor oss and...
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Johnton said:
I am the same but I couldn't find any answer , I think the best is to stick with miui after debloating and customization I tried some roms based on miui but they are equally bad miuimix and elite rom
I found this thread while researching, you might want to give it a try
my perfect combination rom and kernel !!
hi guys, sorry for open thread, but i'm excited.. is the first time that i found this incredible results and i want share with you! i have note10pro (sweet).. i tryed more more rom.. miui, eu, arrow, pixel, crdroid, arcana, etc.. vendor oss and...
forum.xda-developers.com
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But A12 is no more updated and this will be a security reason, or not?
giorgostrc said:
Please recommend me a ROM to daily.
In previous phones I've enjoyed Pixel Experience, PixelPlus and am a big fan of LineageOS.
Of course, I'd prefer to keep fast-charging functionality and be on the latest android.
Thanks!
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Hey friend, I tried a few roms for this device and can tell you that you can drive 2 roms that are really goodand so far without any bugs (in my case at least):
1. PixelPlus Experience
2. Project Elixir
Very good,stable and smooth roms
Greetings
Junderbalt said:
Bumping this thread to ask the same question in light of new circumstances (my apologies):
I've been looking through all these threads lately to find a custom ROM for my usage before unlocking the bootloader, but recently I noticed that almost every Android 12 ROM is discontinued so the devs can work on A13 or for other reasons, so now I can't find any threads that have that in context.
In other words my question is, what is a stable enough ROM now that most are discontinued? Taking into context the spoofing no longer works in the latest ArrowOS 12.1 build which causes extreme battery drain by the Google Play Services.
If it helps, the uses/needs I basically seek are mainly Camera/Audio/Battery. I dont care for gaming one bit in my personal case.
Thank you and sorry for repeating the same question. I just want to drop MIUI and can't find an answer.
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If you are okay with MIUI, Hassan mirza ROMs are amazing. He has A12/12.5/13.

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