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SATA Hdd help!

Hi
Following on from my last thread.. I have a 320gb western digital sata harddrive that i want to install win 7 on. So i set the sata to second boot device and have the dvd drive set to first boot. It loads into the dvd but it takes a while. At 22:47 it is "Expanding Windows Files (0%)" So its taken 10-20 Minutes to get to this stage. So why is it slow on SATA, And fast on IDE? (my ide drive is a wd 80gb)
thanks
flyboy

So i got it installed and it goes to starting windows and then Setup is updating registry settings then...
Blue screen:
Something like ****STOP 0x0000008E (that code is right)
then underneath:
Win32k.sys
whats that mean?
thanks
flyboy

question: to what is your DVD drive connected - S-ATA or IDE?
question: if you set the machine so it boots your normal system - does it still work or does that come up with an error too?
It sounds like you have files on the Windows 7 install disk that are corrupted - a blue screen and stop error, indicating a *.sys file, usually means that either the system cannot find that file or it is corrupted (Win NT servers at one of my old workplaces used to throw that sort of fit fairly often).
The long time it took to work might be as a result of the system trying again and again to read the problem file and then giving up - with microsofts usual skill at installation s/w it would show the process as completed - but when you try to run the OS it falls over.
You could either try and re-install from another copy of the Window 7 installation disk - or if you have access to a system running Win7 you could try and find the file its unable to find and manually copy it to the correct location and see if that solves the issue.
It may take more than one transferred file to solve the problem and it may leave your Win7 installation a little flakey, but it would be quicker than restarting from scratch.
Hope that helped
Jemma

@flyboyovyick2k9:
Need a few details about your system to be able to provide some guidance. Also would help to get the values that appear after - ex: STOP 0x0000008E (xxxx, xxxx, xxxx, xxxx).
Here are some details that would be helpful - worded them in question form:
1) OEM or home grown system? If OEM, brand & model. If HG, Motherboard manufacturer & model.
2) Does the system/motherboard support SATA or eSATA?
3) Does the system/motherboard BIOS have an option for AHCI or ATA?
4) If the BIOS does support AHCI, was it necessary to provide a driver during the Windows installation (ex: Intel Storage Matrix - TXTSETUP.OEM) ?
5) If you were able to install Windows to completion, were you able to install the Chipset and any sub-system (ex: Intel Storage Matrix) driver before restarting the system.
6) Are the firmware levels at the most recent (non-BETA) versions - BIOS, HDD, etc.
7) Does the HDD report as ok when running the WD Diagnostic tools?
8) Are all of the hardware components installed in the system compatible with this version of Windows?
9) Does the RAM report as ok when running a memory diagnostics tool (ex: Mem86, etc.)
10) What is the wattage of the PSU (power supply) in the unit?
HTH,

Right here goes,
The spec of my pc is in the signature. the psu is a Coloursit 550w.
Yes my board does support sataII.
The installation i have got works because i have just install it on my compaq evo laptop, and it works fine.
My normal machine boots fine without the sata drive connected but is a tiny bit slower when it is connected.
It has the latest bios. And is a homebuild. Not sure about the ahci or ata thing.
I have had a look but cant find it.
And yes i did get 4 other codes in brackets after the main one. Not sure if i can generate them again but will try.
The windows installation was fine on the ide. I did clone that drive to the sata one and it was fine but SLOW!
I could try and load the drivers for the sata in the windows installation.
thanks
flyboy

Hadn't noticed your siggie the first time around and after clicking reply, the siggie isn't visible ... my bad.
Had a quick look at the N68-S manual - looks like the systemboard supports SATA/SATA II. I haven't looked at AMD in quite a while so I'm going to assume that ATA/AHCI are intel specific technologies ... not sure if these translate to SATA/SATA II. What is the WD model of your 320 GB?
At first guess, it would seem that the issue could be related to a BIOS mis-configuration or a missing driver package post-Windows install. After cloning the partition, were you able to startup the system with only the WD HDD connected? If not, that could be an indication that Chipset/RAID/SATA drivers may be missing. That said, if you have the patience, it would be worth trying a clean install of Windows directly to the WD HDD to eliminate the possibility that the cloning software is messing up the partition structure.
Cheers,
Reference url's
Systemboard
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=N68-S
Downloads (Win7)
http://www.asrock.com/MB/download.asp?Model=N68-S3&o=Win7

Could be bad MOBO, HD or Media. Go buy a chep sata hd. If you get the same problem, Get a new disk, same thing, then RMA your mobo.

My Win7 installation got corrupted just by trying to come back from hibernate. Suggestion was that I had to insert installation disk in DVD drive and go through the installation recovery process which would copy the missing files back to hard disk and recover the system. It did the trick for me. It might be worth a try.

Well its not a bad motherboard because i would have took it back (lasting 6 months that is) And it was new when i bought it from Aria.co.uk for £32.
The drive is:
WD Caviar Blue/SE/SE16 (SATA II)
WD3200AAKS
Im just cloning the hdd again now because i run some tests and it came back fine. So just waiting on that. Mean while im using my laptop.
thanks
flyboy

Few more questions:
What product are you using to clone the HDD?
Before cloning the HDD, did you boot Windows with the WD HDD connected to the system?
Pertaining to the second question; connecting the WD HDD in the pre-clone instance of Windows would allow for the plug-n-play manager to detect the HDD and install the native Windows drivers.
I'd even go as far as to install the latest set of drivers for the entire system if you haven't already.
Additionally, confirm that Device Manager doesn't display "Unknown Devices" or "Disabled" devices. Address any device related issues pre-cloning.
Cheers,

The sata and ide drives are both installed in device manager. And i can access them. And write to them. But the read/write on the sata is 0.1xxx mb/s and on the ide is 100 or 200 mb/s.
EASEUS Partition Master. Does the same job as paragon.
thanks
flyboy

Hmmmm ... very strange ...
I'm going to assume the following points for the pre-clone image;
The WD HDD is at the latest firmware.
Jumper settings on the WD HDD are correct (http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc....php?p_faqid=1400&p_created=1134597011#jumper).
A SATA II compatible cable is being used.
Drivers were installed in the pre-clone version of Windows.
The BIOS is configured as recommended (ex: not overclocked for the moment).
If the WD HDD is underperforming before cloning the partition, I suspect that there may be a hardware incompatibility or the WD HDD is failing. There's no point in cloning the partition until you are able to obtain satisfactory performance from the WD HDD.
If the performance degradation is post-cloning, I would try a fresh new install of Windows directly to the WD HDD.
Cheers,

Could it possibly be that all the blocks on the hard drive are bad?
Also on the hdd it says that sata doesnt require jumpers, it does it.
thanks
flyboy

Assuming the following ...
The WD HDD Diagnostic reported that there was no issue with the HDD.
The jumper setting(s) for the HDD transfer mode is correctly set - 1.5/Mbps VS 3.0/Mbps.
A net new (clean) install of Windows to the WD HDD.
... and it's still running slow, I'd be looking to try a different HDD. If you experience the same issue with a different HDD Manufacturer/Model, I would start looking at the remainder of the hardware on your system.
Cheers,

Tryed installing windows 7 again, still slow erm. Ye i was just considering buying a new hdd.
Well im taking my pc to my uncles in february so he might be able to help me. Because we are doing a pc build for my 2nd cousin.
thanks for your help.
flyboy

Inconsistent trouble with SD card writing

Hi,
I bought a SanDisk 8GB class 2 micro SDHC card and I noticed that
it behaves strangely in the SG.
When writing larger amounts of data (100s of MBs) I get write errors.
When eg copying from internal SD (/sdcard) to external (/sdcard/sd) with
a filemanager or a backup program.
When connected with USB to a Win7 computer I can verify the disk or do a low level format, no problems. When I copy large amounts of data however, the SG hangs and I must reboot it.
When I put the card in an adapter and mount it on a Win7 or Linux system then I can hammer it with data transfers and all goes well.
So it is SG related and I'm using the stock firmware.
Bad contacts in the SG are unlikely, because once the data is written in the adapter it can be read without issues in the SG and the same contacts are used for writing and reading.
Looks like a driver problem to me.
Anyone else had these kinds of problems?

I have exactly the same problem with a sandisk 4gb class 2. I did not find a solution yet

I have that problem. I believe its got to do with how much power the sgs drains from usb port. I fixed my problem with a powered usb hub. So try that, it fixed alot of usb connection porblems too.
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I have the same problems on SG 3

[Q] Exfat and CM

I just flashed CM 10.1.3 on my replacement HD+. I've got a 64GB Sandisk Ultra formatted to exfat. It seems to read the card without flashing the fuse scripts, but I'm having some issues. The card is not detected on boot up, I have to remove and re-insert the card.
Titanium is having fits. It says the card is not writeable though I can write to the card fine with CM's file manager. Is exfat stable in CM 10.1.3?
Alternatively, can I still flash the fuse scripts? Or will that break something else? Or is exfat better in the 10.2 nighties?
Thanks!

silkshadow said:
I just flashed CM 10.1.3 on my replacement HD+. I've got a 64GB Sandisk Ultra formatted to exfat. It seems to read the card without flashing the fuse scripts, but I'm having some issues. The card is not detected on boot up, I have to remove and re-insert the card.
Titanium is having fits. It says the card is not writeable though I can write to the card fine with CM's file manager. Is exfat stable in CM 10.1.3?
Alternatively, can I still flash the fuse scripts? Or will that break something else? Or is exfat better in the 10.2 nighties?
Thanks!
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I have the same card, and I ended up reformatting it to FAT32 so that GL to SD would work. I hadn't even tried using my TB before the reformat, as I had tried copying my 32GB Sandisk Ultra to it in exfat and nothing really worked correctly. Things like Acer Video Player didn't seem to like the exfat format either.

RageAgain said:
I have the same card, and I ended up reformatting it to FAT32 so that GL to SD would work. I hadn't even tried using my TB before the reformat, as I had tried copying my 32GB Sandisk Ultra to it in exfat and nothing really worked correctly. Things like Acer Video Player didn't seem to like the exfat format either.
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Thanks! Yeah, I'm trying to avoid fat32. Before it hit the bugged emmc, my old nook was used for videos and its a big pain to split movies. I can also report that folder mount (similar to GL to SD) doesn't work with exfat on the CM 10.1. I am trying to find out how to disable fuse on the CM rom so I can flash the fuse scripts which I used previously and work fine. Tried straight flashing it and it was very unstable.

silkshadow said:
Thanks! Yeah, I'm trying to avoid fat32. Before it hit the bugged emmc, my old nook was used for videos and its a big pain to split movies. I can also report that folder mount (similar to GL to SD) doesn't work with exfat on the CM 10.1. I am trying to find out how to disable fuse on the CM rom so I can flash the fuse scripts which I used previously and work fine. Tried straight flashing it and it was very unstable.
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I am using my 64gb Sandisk for games and emulator games, hence the GL to SD and such. I plan on using the USB hosting to stream stored videos from a flash drive / card reader / usb hdd on the go, or try one of those mini network wireless media streamers for no wires. At home I use Emit to stream from my 'server' pc ( 6TB storage ).

RageAgain said:
I am using my 64gb Sandisk for games and emulator games, hence the GL to SD and such. I plan on using the USB hosting to stream stored videos from a flash drive / card reader / usb hdd on the go, or try one of those mini network wireless media streamers for no wires. At home I use Emit to stream from my 'server' pc ( 6TB storage ).
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Yeah, been there. We're straying off topic but its my thread so its ok . I've been on the hunt for things like this since I was on a Palm Pilot. In my experience, contrived USB host works but its very inconvenient on the go. The cable is unwieldy (in Nook's case very long) and the connections/adapters/etc are a PIA to manage unless you have a purse and a stable situation (like a table or something). I have an iUSBport which is basically a wireless/wifi USB host port. It woks great and I am happy with it (even a 1TB self powered USB hard drive no problem), but again kind of a pain to use on the go.
I think you may find that these solutions work great for traveling and in your hotel at night and situations like that, but day to day its far more convenient to have a few movies and TV shows on your microSD (TV shows are under the 4GB limit, so no issues). For example, have you ever watched a movie on the subway? Spotty 4G, no room to run cables, one of many situations where work arounds just don't work.
I use plex great on other tabs, and its been the best solution though not perfect, but on the Nook it only has wifi, so without 4G its pretty useless on the go (tethering to the phone works but again a pain). In house, its no problem and all TBs of my media server are available (I am somewhere around 75TBs these days ).
IDK, I don't find existing work arounds compelling and I try everything I see. I bought the iUSBport (called iCloudFTP or something then) via a Kickstarter and was excited to see the concept in retail. The one exception is that my Acer tab (getting older now though) has a normal usb 2.0 port right in its side. Its the only solution I find that works great with non-internal storage. Wish everyone did that. I give Asus and others credit as they do it on the keyboard dock which is a dream for traveling but I find, for example in the subway scenario, the keyboard can be more of a hindrance than a benefit as it is essentially a really big accessory.

Case with extended storage built in

I have access to a 3D printer, and I was thinking of designing a case with a bare flash drive built in. If I cut one of the USB OTG cables down that allows usb and charging simultaneously and fit it in the case design would I be able to have the USB connected and still be able to charge? If that is a possibility, is there a way to trick Android into thinking that the USB drive is instead an SD card? If we could trick Android into thinking it was an SD card wouldn't we be able to merge the flash drive with the internal storage and increase the storage capacity of the phone? My other thought for this idea was using multirom, and just sticking a 256gb flash drive in the case and just booting off of that. Do either of these ideas sound like they would work well at all? I just have the 32gb model and it just isn't enough.

No. The phone will not charge while in USB host mode, if you try to just throw in voltage you'll burn out the flash drive and or damage your phones micro USB port.
You're multirom idea wasnt bad. But all multirom does is allow a system partition to be installed with an image to a flash drive, and then boot it from the flash drive. It still reads data cache and such off your devices partition.
How are you using your storage? I got use to the "no expandable storage" with my lg and Galaxy Nexus.
Are you encrypted? Unencrypt your phone, you'll save 1.5-2gbs of storage capacity. Use Google photos to backup your photos and videos in HD quality and have it delete files after backup. Do you flash roms? Go through your android/data and Android/obb folders and delete everything related to apps you don't use.
It's not a bad idea to backup music/photos/videos to a PC, then wipe internal storage and restore all the photos and such. You would be amazed at how much storage our phones will use that you can't find and delete without digging around.

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noidea24 said:
No. The phone will not charge while in USB host mode, if you try to just throw in voltage you'll burn out the flash drive and or damage your phones micro USB port.
You're multirom idea wasnt bad. But all multirom does is allow a system partition to be installed with an image to a flash drive, and then boot it from the flash drive. It still reads data cache and such off your devices partition.
How are you using your storage? I got use to the "no expandable storage" with my lg and Galaxy Nexus.
Are you encrypted? Unencrypt your phone, you'll save 1.5-2gbs of storage capacity. Use Google photos to backup your photos and videos in HD quality and have it delete files after backup. Do you flash roms? Go through your android/data and Android/obb folders and delete everything related to apps you don't use.
It's not a bad idea to backup music/photos/videos to a PC, then wipe internal storage and restore all the photos and such. You would be amazed at how much storage our phones will use that you can't find and delete without digging around.
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I am un-encrypted so I do have that little bit of extra space. I have a lot of music on my phone for listening in the car. LTE is spotty where I live, so streaming isn't a great option. I was under the impression that with a modified kernel it is possible to charge and access a device at the same time. Doesn't the nexus 7 have a kernel that allows that? If that is in fact possible is there a way to trick android into thinking that it's an sd card instead of a flash drive?
This is one such kernel for the nexus 7
https://mehrvarz.github.io/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/
I think my solution my work great if there is a kernel that works with charging and we could get the USB to integrate.

Encryption takes up more space?

Code:
adb shell sm set-force-adoptable true
lets you use any external storage device as adoptable storage letting you use a OTG drive as internal storage. Could've just been my drive but it stalled at 20% for a couple minutes, mighta finished but my OTG adapter is kinda flaky and lost connection. After a bit of reading I've learned it might be since my phone isn't encrypted and adoptable storage is encrypted by default.
Also from what I understand about OTG things is that you CANNOT charge the phone while it's connection with OTG even wirelessly.
Though with the N6 having USB 2.0 it'll likely be very very slow.

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StykerB said:
Code:
adb shell sm set-force-adoptable true
lets you use any external storage device as adoptable storage letting you use a OTG drive as internal storage. Could've just been my drive but it stalled at 20% for a couple minutes, mighta finished but my OTG adapter is kinda flaky and lost connection. After a bit of reading I've learned it might be since my phone isn't encrypted and adoptable storage is encrypted by default.
Also from what I understand about OTG things is that you CANNOT charge the phone while it's connection with OTG even wirelessly.
Though with the N6 having USB 2.0 it'll likely be very very slow.
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Awesome!! Thank you. I'll do some tinkering maybe this weekend to see what I can come up with. That was exactly what I was looking for as far as adoptable storage!
EDIT: I ran the adb command you gave me through terminal emulator on the phone itself after giving it root access. All 3 flash drives I tried integrated with my internal storage just phone. All 3 were 32gb usb 3.0, but each was a different brand. I built a custom "y" cable, but you can buy them on Amazon. I'm talking with a kernel developer and it seems it is possible to charge the phone at the same time. Both the nexus 4 and 2013 nexus 7 have custom kernels that allow what's called USB OTG Host mode that allows the device to charge and use a USB device at the same time. From what I can tell it's a kernel module that needs to be added. For the nexus 4 it was just a zip file that patched whatever kernel you were currently using. I don't have a lot of experience with compiling kernels, but I'll try and find out what needs to be done and fire my Ubuntu box up.

Sandisk ultra dual drive

Hello all! I have bought dual flash drive by Sandisk, size 64gb. For some reason when I connect the device I cannot use it, and when I try to set it to MTP, it "jumps" right back to reverse charge. I have unrooted stock ROM and would like to keep it that way if possible. I have tried usb debugging, and formatted the device.
Help please.
Thanks in advance!

Try to format sd card in reader with HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Google for it. I'm using same sd card moded to use with 2 sim cards and it works fine (with more than 50GB of data occupied). Or maybe the card died

Please notice that it's not a card but a flash drive.

From SanDisk page:
64GB and 128GB Dual USB Drives come preformatted in exFat file system and certain mobile devices do not support exFat. In this case please format the drive in Fat32 file system.
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Also:
Note: Some mobile device protective cases interfere with the full and proper connection between SanDisk Ultra Dual USB Drive and the microUSB port of mobile devices. You may have to remove the protective case on your mobile device to obtain a full and proper connection.
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Weirdly P9 is not listen in compatibility page even when P8 and P7 is... but I often use OTG drives with my P9, from cheap sd card reader for 3$(with microUSB so I use usb-c dongle...) to even external SSD is working with it, so lack of OTG support is not a problem.

It's not the cover. Will formatting it to fat32 won't affect the size of the flash drive I can use? And Is there a way to format it with unrooted phone? Because I will not be at home for the next few weeks.

nope, formating just change file system/algorithms of how files are stored in drive. But you need to remember that 64GB drive will have just about 59-62GB of REAL size, its because of difference between how the manufacturer calculates capacity (decimal-based) compared to how a computer calculates it (binary-based).
And you dont do formating on phone but on PC:
1. just plug it to PC.
2. backup files if you have any on it.
3. right click on that dive in "My Computer".
7. select format -> Quick format
8. select FAT32 and then hit format.
9. done.

Thank you for your answer. I know to format through a computer, I just won't be near one for the next few weeks. What file system should I format into?

umm... I mentioned that 2 times: Fat32 format :]

It should be fine if it's in Reverse charging. In my case, I'm using a USB-C to USB (female) adapter (check Google if you can find one). It works fine, my P9 can even read the contents of my 1TB external hard drive. Probably something wrong with the USB-C part of the flash drive itself?