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Hi all, I just want to share my experiences I made today.
I have bought a Wide/Macro Lens like used in the Video (from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same) and it is NOT working! The magnets from the lens are not attracting to the magnets in the phone, they are pushing away! Be aware, I don't thing there is a standardized way how the lens manufacturers build in the magnet since it is designed to hold to a metal ring and not to another magnet.
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
fireproofrev said:
(from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same)
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It's already known that some cheap ones on Amazon have more-or-less random magnetic polarity. The only ones confirmed for being consistent are the ones on Photojojo. As for messing with OIS, I don't have first-hand experience with these lenses, but it seems that that was also confirmed for not happening with the Photojojo lenses.
Unless you got the Photojojo ones through Amazon. Then you might want to post this in those other threads about this too, so people will see this result.
You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
Andypandiiee said:
You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
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I tried to (with a little flat screwdriver), but it seems to be pressed in, it fits very tight. Maybe I try it tomorrow again (heat up a little??).
attached a picture of the lens
(at the amazon picture a silver one was shown but they delivered this black version)
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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uhm.. this is totally wrong, I don't want a great picture quality, I want a wide-lens to have a wider angle for party snapshots or being out with some friends. You can increase the visibility range alot and I like the effect, so why not? I definitely DONT want to carry a camera all the time (by the way I have also a canon eos d1000, yeah I know it is just a "cheap" DSLR but it is enough for me).
This is not a "camera has too bad quality" thread (IMO the N5 camera is great) so go away
By the way, the lens is working perfect with the metal ring on my GNex
I can also confirm this. I bought these from Amazon. Received these today and when tried to put them on ... the reverse polarity on the magnet on the lens and the one on the camera itself repel each other. I was only able to hold the lens in place with my hand to try out the macro lens (picture attached). However I didn't experience any vibration or OIS not working. OIS was working fine for me. I used HDR+ mode.
Anyways, lenses are going back. Only lens confirmed to work with N5 are from Photojojo and since those lenses are way overpriced I will not buy them.
zoomed out photo was taken at the closest distance where the on-screen camera focus ring turned green. YMMV.
Excuse the fingers in the macro shot as I was holding the lens with one hand while taking the photo.
enjoy
Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
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fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
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I ordered the Photojojo's from Amazon -- FROM Photojojo, and it's no-go jojo for my photo phono circo.
Anyway, the magnet doesn't work at all. Not quite reversed polarity that I can tell, but only one small area wants to attract. Not enough to keep the lens on.
Yea. The magnet on my phone barely holds up a paperclip. I seriously doubt it was designed for lenses. If it was, Google would be all over that with their advertising, especially since they have been flaunting their photo capabilities.
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Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
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fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
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picture 2
picture 3
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Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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dakunclear said:
Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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The fisheye lenses that I got were REALLY subpar to me, so I returned it. Since I had to attach a metal ring to the camera lens so that the lens could stick to it, I couldn't really justify it. Like I said in my earlier post I really like the easy macro because it's on a band and I can easily remove it. If I found a fisheye that was on a band like that I might get it, but idk the image quality wasnt that great either and the metal ring was really a turnoff Use amazon, buy it and if you dont like it then return it
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I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
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Oh boy!!! I can now confirm this. After a long time I couldn't control myself and bought another set of lenses from Amazon and decided to stick the provided ring to the phone lens. Macro lens seemed to work fine however as soon as I mounted the wide angle lens ... OIS started freaking out so bad I can't even begin to describe. You can feel the vibrations and see it on the screen as well. I immediately removed the lens and put it away. OP was right about this little thing ... I won't be using wide angle lens to avoid any permanent damage to OIS in the phone .
Any kind of strong magnet will also disorient the directional sensor while using google maps. I was wondering why the turn by turn navi would randomly tell me to make a U-turn.
Test for yourself. Pop open google maps and locate your position. Then put a magnet near the top half of the phone, you'll see your directional pointer spin away.
Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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Yeah good luck. A dedicated camera like an SLR or a point and shoot won't be there when that spur of the moment photo presents itself to you.
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Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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So much NO in this post. "real Photography"? Please. The fact that a photo is taken with a phone vs a DSLR vs medium format vs etc etc is irrelevant. You don't need a (relatively) expensive camera to take good photos. You need creativity and opportunity, that's it.
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I was almost tempted to buy one to play with my N5 camera.. but reading this thread made me worried..
Now I used that little money and bought a wireless charger... should be coming to me tomorrow..
Good to know -- thanks for the warning, you just saved me some time/money no doubt!
I know that LG G4 camera is one of the best smartphone camera on the market, but if I can further improve camera with this little peace of hardware it will be more than welcome..does anyone has experience with it...
Yap. I bought a pair of cheap lenses for my G4 from local shop. It's also available in Amazon. They are interesting, if not awesome. Actually it depends on what's your purpose of using those lens.
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I have a fisheye lens from a previous smartphone. I'll give it a shot tonight...
vansmack said:
I have a fisheye lens from a previous smartphone. I'll give it a shot tonight...
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Link to lens?
20degrees said:
Link to lens?
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I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HLYEES2
And have only used it with a Nexus 5 to mediocre results - will try it on the G4 tonight.
I was think of getting one as well but seems like this phone lens area is not magnetized. My nexus 5 has magnet around the lens so that lens just sticks to the phone but not. On G4. I know that because nexus 5 always sticks paper clips on my lens but G4 doesn't.
I guess clip on will do..
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vansmack said:
I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HLYEES2
And have only used it with a Nexus 5 to mediocre results - will try it on the G4 tonight.
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I'd love to see some samples with it if you could post some up?
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Amazon has deal with some kit wide, fisheye and macro for $7
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...20&ascsubtag=b736caf7981f4185822b097dde24c680
Coupon code NQNLZX8V
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nipun1110 said:
Yap. I bought a pair of cheap lenses for my G4 from local shop. It's also available in Amazon. They are interesting, if not awesome. Actually it depends on what's your purpose of using those lens.
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By adding another element to the camera you are actually decreasing the quality of photos. Only improvement you will get is varying the focal lengths, if that is what you are after then attachable lens is your solution.
I've seen some with a stick on metal ring and magnetic lenses which may work better. But then as others have said, I'm skeptical of the optics quality. If anyone has seen anything like this with decent optics let us know :good:
I purposely didn't buy an expensive one knowing that the optics simply aren't great, but it's a great little toy for $10....
Focus is the real challenge...both phones I've used with the lens have struggled with auto-focus and OIS - the lens just tricks the internals. However, the manual mode of the G4 made it much easier to use, but it's still hard to tell on the screen. These are little low light as I was racing sunset after work. As with most photos, they're much better (as is focus) in better light conditions. I also didn't crop these to provide the full effect - you'll likely have to crop photos with this superwide fisheye. I struggle to keep my fingers out of the shot some times.
https://goo.gl/photos/5FqFAVJipR4geFjy7
https://goo.gl/photos/rRoTSHyZqaSUz5LR8
https://goo.gl/photos/orHVjwbRGsoKbjSk8
https://goo.gl/photos/s38XgRpKnCRBgish8
Element seriously need to make a case like this for the G4. Especially since the big seller for the G4 is it's photo capabilities! They could PROFIT. I'd be first in line.
I had a ZTYLUS one for my S4 that I wish was available for my new G4 as well too. Siiiiiiiigggghhhh. The first world problem of owning a new phone.
So hello G4 users,
since I got this phone, thanks to its great camera, I developed quite an interest in photography. Now, I am looking for some accessories that could improve the whole experience (tripod, lenses, etc...). Any suggestioins?
Pseudo-O.T.
if you wanna take a look at some shot I took, here they are
https://goo.gl/photos/v5J3vXdQi3FjCTxz8
Look HERE I'll edit when I find more
Another Lens+Tripod
A case That's a lens lol HERE
xDave7 said:
So hello G4 users,
since I got this phone, thanks to its great camera, I developed quite an interest in photography. Now, I am looking for some accessories that could improve the whole experience (tripod, lenses, etc...). Any suggestioins?
Pseudo-O.T.
if you wanna take a look at some shot I took, here they are
https://goo.gl/photos/v5J3vXdQi3FjCTxz8
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I bought a 4 foot targus tripod. Made a setup from my old g3 otter box holster to hold my g4 on the tripod and can do 30 sec shutter shots. also i do 8 sec shots and lite scribe
Anyone regret getting it?
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Anyone regret getting it?
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Only thing I dont like is that the USB C port cutout is too sharp. When I hold it with my finger, it seem to cut it at times
No regrets at all. Just AOSP rom would be a lot better, which should arrive soon.
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
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KOLIOSIS said:
Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
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I've seen the Pelosi case online. The product images looked like the case didn't offer much in terms of protection, especially around the screen. Also the material seemed to be very light, possibly to keep the case slim. The case looks good and I was tempted to buy. I didn't because of these reasons.
But if you have the case and its good, please post photos in my thread. Link
I created that thread as there are very few good cases available for this device and if everyone could post photos of what case and screen protector they had on the device, it would help other buyers too.
satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.
nikhil.mehta said:
There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.
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That's the Love Mei Powerful case! I saw it a few days back on ebay. Mine is on the way from China. Did you get it too?
It should arrive next week. Have you ordered this too?
The case is a bit large though.
Please post pictures of your current setup on this thread and also if you happen to receive the Love Mei case before me.
Check out the case I am currently using. I have added photos here. Also available on ebay.
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Anyone regret getting it?
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I did, until I got the unlock approval. I immediately flashed the xiaomi.eu rom and (most) of my gripes were dealt with; being android auto not working and horrible background battery drain. I still hate the home screen icon backgrounds, the fact it wont rotate, and the stock dpi... but other than that I am happy, for now.
My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.
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My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.
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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.
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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.
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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.
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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.
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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!
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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!
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I just tried 320DPI, oh man, I love it!!! It even fixed my News360 app that I love but would only show me 2 articles per screen on this phone and now shows 6!
The only downside is that top status bar with the clock and battery and such is pretty small. But that's certainly a good compromise as the reset of the phone looks normal now, all I did was bump the UI font size up from small to medium and it all looks great.
All of the icons appear to be working fine, but I use Nova Launcher, so maybe that why.
320 DPI is pretty much a standard DPI for android, and so I expect alot of apps are tuned for that DPI.
Thanks for the great suggestion! The phone looks like a normal phone now....
Received mine today. I thought I could get by without a case but no way. It's slippery! Luckily a case came with it.
satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Those are some good clicks mate! Like I said, camera was not a priority for me when I bought this device. I usually don't use my phone cameras a lot and only for some occasional snaps.. I knew that this device had an inferior camera compared to the competition.
Most people usually depend on their phone's camera for random clicks like when your drunk friend is doing something funny at a party or when it appears as if your dog is smiling. Random events like these, when you may not have your dedicated camera at hand. That's when your phone's camera is handy. And for casual spur of the moment clicks like these, this phone's camera is quite unreliable. In most cases those moments you intended to capture would end up as a blurry or noisy mess.
Like you said, if you put enough effort, you may be able to get a few good shots like you just shared. But that was not my point as it defeats the purpose of a phone's camera.
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I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Jeez, nothing wrong with those at all.
I agree as well. Took a few shots and pics look fine. From all the reviews, I was expecting worse.
Best phone I've ever owned.
iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5 -> HTC One -> Samsung S5 LTE-A -> Note 7 (pretty nice) -> Xiaomi Mi Mix.
This thing is a MONSTER. Fast as hell, best battery I've ever seen (better than the Note 7), humongous display, sexy as build quality, tons of RAM, tons of fast memory, fast charging, etc. I'm surprised this exists.
Alright everybody does anybody know how the moment case and lenses are going to work with a dual camera set up?? Curious if it will only work on one camera?
Pre-Order Link just came out today for it
https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/photo-case/note-8/black
If you look at the photo, it looks like there are mounts over both cameras, so I would assume that it will work with both cameras.
Thanks for posting this, I missed the announcement and was wondering if they'd make a mount/case for the Note 8.
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If you look at the photo, it looks like there are mounts over both cameras, so I would assume that it will work with both cameras.
Thanks for posting this, I missed the announcement and was wondering if they'd make a mount/case for the Note 8.
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Yeah I also noticed that but did not know how it would interact just wondering if anybody knew anything or had video of it. I mean note has a wide angle already will the wide lens make it like double that? LOL sorry just trying to figure out if i should order!
And no problem I have been really wanting to try one. Was going to get one for my pixel 2 xl but screen was too blue for me so guess I will try on note!
From my experience the lens screws into the case and sits flush to the camera. The Note 8 "wide" lens is actually not extremely wide, so there shouldn't be any vignetting or image quality problems.
The optics of the Moment lenses are superb, and yeah, the wide angle lens will make the view super wide!
I've had the Moment lenses since they were introduced and their customer support is always good and willing to help.
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Yeah I also noticed that but did not know how it would interact just wondering if anybody knew anything or had video of it. I mean note has a wide angle already will the wide lens make it like double that? LOL sorry just trying to figure out if i should order!
And no problem I have been really wanting to try one. Was going to get one for my pixel 2 xl but screen was too blue for me so guess I will try on note!
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From my experience the lens screws into the case and sits flush to the camera. The Note 8 "wide" lens is actually not extremely wide, so there shouldn't be any vignetting or image quality problems.
The optics of the Moment lenses are superb, and yeah, the wide angle lens will make the view super wide!
I've had the Moment lenses since they were introduced and their customer support is always good and willing to help.
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hopefully so the wide will become an impressive wide, wider then other phones out there. i guess i could probably watch youtube video on the dual camera iphones i am sure somebody has a review of those on there