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Heya guys. I couldn't find much info on this for the X, and certainly not anything about this particular update.
I'm not too fond of jumping on board a new ship before I get a good look at it.
Has anyone before successfully blocked an incoming OTA update? I'm particularly interested in VZW moto Xs, though any info is helpful.
In a nutshell, I'm aiming to block the 4.4.4 OTA on a non-dev, non-rooted VZW moto X.
I'm sure it may not be possible without root, but I'm interested in opinions.
Just hit no when it tells you havê a new update
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chrisp6825 said:
Heya guys. I couldn't find much info on this for the X, and certainly not anything about this particular update.
I'm not too fond of jumping on board a new ship before I get a good look at it.
Has anyone before successfully blocked an incoming OTA update? I'm particularly interested in VZW moto Xs, though any info is helpful.
In a nutshell, I'm aiming to block the 4.4.4 OTA on a non-dev, non-rooted VZW moto X.
I'm sure it may not be possible without root, but I'm interested in opinions.
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using titanium backup or some program like it just freeze Motorola ota that should stop all ota notifications
kelvinmorcillo said:
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Ah, I wasn't aware OTAs on this phone were optional. Some devices force them ASAP on a boot-up if available. Good to hear, and I hope it stays true.
adm1jtg said:
using titanium backup or some program like it just freeze Motorola ota that should stop all ota notifications
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I'm not able to do this. Otherwise, I would. Root free, dev free, that's the life for me... for the time being at least...
chrisp6825 said:
Ah, I wasn't aware OTAs on this phone were optional. Some devices force them ASAP on a boot-up if available. Good to hear, and I hope it stays true.
I'm not able to do this. Otherwise, I would. Root free, dev free, that's the life for me... for the time being at least...
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To stop the updates, this will do it but you will have to redo this everytime you reboot until you are rooted in stone not temp like Pie.. but this will stop any updates from coming to the phone and stop you from forcing an update. the two files Ive changed the name of the first two in the pic, it's the root / system / pri apps folder, I added .bak to the name, you have to do both of them.
If you don't rename them after every boot when you lose Pie they revert back to original and you will get the notice again and you might accidentally hit install when the notice pops up.. so just re Pie and change them.. I use FX explorer with root addon. It's a great app and free and takes less than a minute to rename the files.
Looks like the OTA reached me. It creates a permanent notification from the MotoOTA app.
Without write-protection enabled, you can't disable this app permanently. Most likely in a temp-root instance, freezing it in titanium backup may not take effect on the app til reboot, or possibly a hot-reboot.
I just un-enabled notifications for the app, though I'm hoping it won't auto download during idle.
And apparently (I'm) not able to freeze it. See screen shots.
tapa'd on my moto x
chrisp6825 said:
Looks like the OTA reached me. It creates a permanent notification from the MotoOTA app.
Without write-protection enabled, you can't disable this app permanently. Most likely in a temp-root instance, freezing it in titanium backup may not take effect on the app til reboot, or possibly a hot-reboot.
I just un-enabled notifications for the app, though I'm hoping it won't auto download during idle.
And apparently (I'm) not able to freeze it. See screen shots.
tapa'd on my moto x
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It won't install automatically...almost guaranteed.
But why can't you freeze it? You should be able to click it, opening up a menu with a freeze option. My guess is that it will revert back to 'unfrozen' after the next reboot, but I HAVE seen a post or two that suggests otherwise (not sure how reputable, if at all).
I have several system apps frozen (mostly the google play music/movies/games/etc. bloat, along with a couple others). The fact that it is red just indicates it is a system app. You might have to mount /system r/w in order to be able to freeze it, but once again, I've read some posts suggesting that mounting r/w was tricky with the temp-root (and of course, will revert all changes upon reboot).
I would give you more definitive answers, but since I'm unlocked, its difficult for me to test...
Good Luck! If you can just put up with the nag, you'll be fine. As you well know, once you accept it, it's game-over for root.
Chris forget about that freeze crap do what I said to do and you won't have any issues I did it yesterday.. rebooted the phone lost towelpie got the 4.4.4 notice started downloading because wanted to know what it was.. than ran towelpie, went to a root/system/priv-apps and deleted the 3c ota files and it stopped that download as it was downloading. i wanted to download it to see what it was so i had to reboot the phone to get rid of towelpie and that got the 3c ota files back and then it rebegan the download I don't use Titanium Backup I just manually delete. I did it Verizon 4.4.2 non dev locked boot
now after I downloaded 4.4.4 and rooted with towelPie.. it did cause the root to act kind of funny I went into FX root explorer tried to rename the 3c ota files after mounting Fx Explorer in write mode it still told me the files were not writable that must have had something to do with the new download.. so my corrective action was to go into fx root explorer cashe folder send that new update into outerfreakin space then reboot the phone retowelpie and then mount fx Explorer in write mode again and deleted 3c ota files and had no problem after rebooting.. but once you download that file it permanently does something to your phone until you delete it from the cashe folder and reboot.
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It won't install automatically...almost guaranteed.
But why can't you freeze it?
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In that screen shot, I had just attempted to freeze it 3 times. It's as if I haven't even tried though.
As long as it won't auto download, I'm cool with it. Kit Kat or jelly bean introduced the option to disable notifications from apps, so that gets it out of my way.
tapa'd on my moto x
Once you delete the 3c_ota.apk and 3c_ota.odex files your phone is NOT capable of checking for or downloading an OTA.
And towelPie root allows you to delete these files if you use FX explorer with root add-on, its available in playstore, and explains how to mount in write mode allowing you to rename or delete any file, it takes all of 10 seconds.
FX file explorer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.fx&hl=en
Root add-on for for FX explorer to access root files
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.fx.rr&hl=en
Right, but this is something that obviously has to be done every boot, and I imagine may need to be soft-rebooted after to take effect, so the app won't load during boot.
I may do that our write a quick script to take care of it each rooted boot for me in a while. Thanks for the info
tapa'd on my moto x
So I just renamed the system files... So much for not trying to auto update. Then next screen after I hit later asked me to select a time of day for the next reminder.
Silly.
I'll see if I still get this after the files are renamed.
tapa'd on my moto x
Renamed my files. So far, no notification. Thx.
chrisp6825 said:
So I just renamed the system files... So much for not trying to auto update. Then next screen after I hit later asked me to select a time of day for the next reminder.
Silly.
I'll see if I still get this after the files are renamed.
tapa'd on my moto x
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you have to go into system root cashe folder and send the downloaded file to kingdome come than you wont get the install prompt. the phone is not capable of downloading the update if you rename the files
the file in cashe is that the Verizon ghost zip?delete then re name the other ota in priv folder?
Thanks
gmmurphy said:
the file in cashe is that the Verizon ghost zip?delete then re name the other ota in priv folder?
Thanks
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that is it. either delete it, rename it, or move someplace else (like /sdcard)
I froze MotorolaOTA 1.0 in Titanium Backup using Towel Root. (Also works using Pie Root). Blocks of obedience obnoxious update requests.
Sent from my Nexus 7
My Samsung Galaxy ACE S5830 needs the kiss of life, so as to return to the 21st century.
It has slow responses and quite often freezes and messes up with my nerves.
It currently runs on a 2.3.5 android version.
I want to root it, take a backup, increase ram by creating a partition in my new sd card and install a light custom rom (like MIUI). For this purpose, I just bought a very fast Kingston 32GB, class 10 U3, sd card with theoretical 90MBs read and 80MBs write speed. I think that will suffice.
I am a simple user and I need basic functions. My main issue is to get a faster response from the phone. I don’t play games and I am not a major fun of social media. I just want to want to use it mainly as a phone, for calls, messages, Viber, and some extra facilities like emailing, web browsing, watching some videos online (news and youtube), occasional photos, listen to music, and install a GPS program like Sygic.
I’ve already read a lot about the whole process, but as I’m doing it for the first time in my life I want to make sure that I got it right. And I have a few ambiguities.
Please advise or freely suggest if any better/easier method is available.
1. Rooting.
I decided to use Kingo Root. So, I need to download Kingo Root to my pc and connect the phone (having enabled USB debugging) and just press Root. Then check if rooting is successful with Root Checker. Then download and install SuperSU app. And I’m done.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader, too?
2. Backup.
a) Take an image of the existing ROM.
Download and install ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and update. Boot in to recovery by using ROM Manager or manually by pressing simultaneously UP+POWER+HOME buttons. Then go to Backup and Restore and take a backup image. Right?
b) Backup apps and messages.
I want to take just 2 backups here, my text messages and my Viber messages. Do I use Titanium or something else? My contacts are already synchronized with Google. If I use a MIUI stock rom do I need to take a backup of my contacts too?
3. Increase phone's RAM
I think now is the right time to increase the phone’s RAM. Do I need to partition it with CWM? Or I just use an app like Ram Expander? Do I do both? I mean firstly partition the sd to the desired size and then use Ram Expander? None of the above? What do you suggest? I have read some other possible solutions like using INT2EXT+ after partition. And when I download a new app how will the phone know where to store it, in phone’s RAM or in sd card?
The key factor is speed and efficiency.
I’ve also read that “Even though the Internal Storage would read 2GB (or whatever is your partition size), the apps would still use some amount of REAL INTERNAL Storage for data, hence you need at least 100MB REAL Internal Memory for every 500MB SD-EXT memory.” Is this true? And if so, since I believe the Galaxy ACE S5830 has about 150 MB RAM the most I can actually get is 750 MB RAM?
It is important to get as much RAM as possible because I’ve read that Sygic (the GPS Navigator app) needs to be installed in phone’s RAM to work properly and it is about 700MB.
4. Install Stock ROM
Finally, the time has come to install a new stock rom. I am thinking about MIUI 6. I like its interface and I’ve heard it is light and fast. Any better suggestions? Can I do it in my phone?
My problem here is this, is MIUI a fully functional stock rom, which means I just download it and flash it or is it a “port rom” which means I have to previously install some android 4.4.x base rom? I have read in some article that is needs a compatible android rom to lean on before installing. Is that so?
Here I am stuck, I can’t decide how to proceed and I need your help.
Sorry, if the post is too long.
Hi there, long time galaxy ace user and MIUI lover here.
1. For rooting my device, I just flashed a zip in recovery mode. Can't find the link to that thread.
2. Yes, backup is very important right after rooting, especially for beginners.
As for sms backup, I recommend using SMS backup and Restore, which can be downloaded from the market. I haven't used viber, so I don't know which app would be the best for backing it up, but you can try Titanium backup. For contacts, you can sync them as long as you flash a g-apps package and sign in with the same google account. To be sure, you can try exporting your contacts to your sd card and import it later on (.vcf)
3. I did not even increase my phone's ram via swap, Even with a tiny ram, Miui on top of Cm7 is pretty fast and can handle any basic task such as browsing, youtube videos, music, calling, camera, camcording and messaging with minimal stutters. (I don't play games btw)
4. If you are a simple phone user just like me, who only need some calls, sms and browsing functionality, the best bet would be to use MIUI builds based on gingerbread (CM7). I found that MIUIv4 builds (ICS and JB) are poorly optimized for our device. Also, there are currently no MIUI v5 or v6 builds for armv6 devices.
My personal recommendation is: MIUIXXX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908444 which comes with FireKernel OC.
I use Gabreek's Miui v5 theme, which you can find it on his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280553 In my opinion, his v5 theme is the best, because of LOTS of app icons and the overall feel.
Also, be sure to flash a g-apps package for gingerbread after flashing the rom.
MIUI v4 snapseries build is too unresponsive for me, and missing some features like screen off animation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879323
MIUI v4 JB by msnnsm is also good, but consumes lots of ram http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054460.
TL;DR: flash an miui gb rom. It is the best in terms of stability and speed.
Thanks for your prompt answer and suggestions my friend. I will follow them all.
One question please, which is the most important query for me:
After I have made all the preparations (root and have taken a backup image with CWM, messages, etc.), what is the next step?
a) I need to install and flash the phone with a CM7 first and then install and flash MIUIXXX?
or
b) I just flash MIUIXXX straight away?
Also, I am not sure I understood correctly, Gabreek's Miui v5 (which is now updated to v6) is an alternative MIUI rom or a theme? Because I have downloaded it and it is a zip file not an .mtz file.
I am sorry if these sound like very noobish questions but I want to make sure that I understand what I am doing before I actually do it.
Thanks again for your help.
tommycr7 said:
Thanks for your prompt answer and suggestions my friend. I will follow them all.
One question please, which is the most important query for me:
After I have made all the preparations (root and have taken a backup image with CWM, messages, etc.), what is the next step?
a) I need to install and flash the phone with a CM7 first and then install and flash MIUIXXX?
or
b) I just flash MIUIXXX straight away?
Also, I am not sure I understood correctly, Gabreek's Miui v5 (which is now updated to v6) is an alternative MIUI rom or a theme? Because I have downloaded it and it is a zip file not an .mtz file.
I am sorry if these sound like very noobish questions but I want to make sure that I understand what I am doing before I actually do it.
Thanks again for your help.
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It's completely fine to flash miuiXXX right away (B)
gabreek's is another MIUI rom, but bluetooth is not working in his v6 build. The theme file (mtz) is somewhere in the bottom of the post, below some useful tips and just above the credits part of his post
Thanks again for your help.
I also thought the same, but I wanted to make sure.
I have already rooted my phone and I am in the process of taking various backups.
I will try the rom you have recommended and I will revert to report.
I think I owe you as much.
Btw do you know if Themer works in MIUI? It's quite an impressive app to have.
Cheers
as far as i know, themer does not work.
Also, MIUI comes with its own theme engine, and you can download online, which is very nice.
Remember that when Applying themes, do not include lockscreen (uncheck lockscreen) . Lockscreens from the Theme app are meant for HDPI device, and you won't be able to unlock your phone if you apply them. If you accidentally get stuck on the lockscreen, press volume up and back button at the same time. It will unlock your phone.
There are a handful of themes ported to MDPI which you can use over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428940
So far, so good, I have not experienced any major problems.
2 more things to ask if you dont mind.
a. Where do I get the gapps file to flash from? Is is a specific file for our rom (MIUIXXX) or any gapps file will do?
b. Can I add an extra language, in the android keyboard or do I have to use an app for this? Or even better in the system itself. I am from Greece and I would find it very convenient in some tasks of the phone. I mean since it is essentially a MIUI rom and MIUI has the greek language in its official roms, there must be a way that this can be done.
tommycr7 said:
My Samsung Galaxy ACE S5830 needs the kiss of life, so as to return to the 21st century.
It has slow responses and quite often freezes and messes up with my nerves.
It currently runs on a 2.3.5 android version.
I want to root it, take a backup, increase ram by creating a partition in my new sd card and install a light custom rom (like MIUI). For this purpose, I just bought a very fast Kingston 32GB, class 10 U3, sd card with theoretical 90MBs read and 80MBs write speed. I think that will suffice.
I am a simple user and I need basic functions. My main issue is to get a faster response from the phone. I don’t play games and I am not a major fun of social media. I just want to want to use it mainly as a phone, for calls, messages, Viber, and some extra facilities like emailing, web browsing, watching some videos online (news and youtube), occasional photos, listen to music, and install a GPS program like Sygic.
I’ve already read a lot about the whole process, but as I’m doing it for the first time in my life I want to make sure that I got it right. And I have a few ambiguities.
Please advise or freely suggest if any better/easier method is available.
1. Rooting.
I decided to use Kingo Root. So, I need to download Kingo Root to my pc and connect the phone (having enabled USB debugging) and just press Root. Then check if rooting is successful with Root Checker. Then download and install SuperSU app. And I’m done.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader, too?
2. Backup.
a) Take an image of the existing ROM.
Download and install ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and update. Boot in to recovery by using ROM Manager or manually by pressing simultaneously UP+POWER+HOME buttons. Then go to Backup and Restore and take a backup image. Right?
b) Backup apps and messages.
I want to take just 2 backups here, my text messages and my Viber messages. Do I use Titanium or something else? My contacts are already synchronized with Google. If I use a MIUI stock rom do I need to take a backup of my contacts too?
3. Increase phone's RAM
I think now is the right time to increase the phone’s RAM. Do I need to partition it with CWM? Or I just use an app like Ram Expander? Do I do both? I mean firstly partition the sd to the desired size and then use Ram Expander? None of the above? What do you suggest? I have read some other possible solutions like using INT2EXT+ after partition. And when I download a new app how will the phone know where to store it, in phone’s RAM or in sd card?
The key factor is speed and efficiency.
I’ve also read that “Even though the Internal Storage would read 2GB (or whatever is your partition size), the apps would still use some amount of REAL INTERNAL Storage for data, hence you need at least 100MB REAL Internal Memory for every 500MB SD-EXT memory.” Is this true? And if so, since I believe the Galaxy ACE S5830 has about 150 MB RAM the most I can actually get is 750 MB RAM?
It is important to get as much RAM as possible because I’ve read that Sygic (the GPS Navigator app) needs to be installed in phone’s RAM to work properly and it is about 700MB.
4. Install Stock ROM
Finally, the time has come to install a new stock rom. I am thinking about MIUI 6. I like its interface and I’ve heard it is light and fast. Any better suggestions? Can I do it in my phone?
My problem here is this, is MIUI a fully functional stock rom, which means I just download it and flash it or is it a “port rom” which means I have to previously install some android 4.4.x base rom? I have read in some article that is needs a compatible android rom to lean on before installing. Is that so?
Here I am stuck, I can’t decide how to proceed and I need your help.
Sorry, if the post is too long.
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Hi There,
To Root Your Device See The XDA's post.
Take The Backup of Current Rom Using CWM recovery or ROM Manager would do this too.
Then inorder to Increase Memory On Your Device By Partitining the SD Card.
Check My Guide over it in Galaxy Ace Development Section or General Android Dev Section.
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Hi,
1.
Try always to have on your sdcard a backup or a ROM that works ok.
Probe this a few times to be sure you can return anytime to the previous step.
2.
Take a notepad and make a change log with steps you made, so you can return to the previous step if something is not working ok.
3.
Try first to understand what you want to do, to be sure that you will not commit an error.
Try to learn from the mistakes of others.
It will be much easier for you.
Hello
I've got the Note 5 SM-N9208 and I am trying not to root (tripped Knox tho as I but Phillippines system.img on it) it as the annoying Barclays App doesn't work.
I am however, trying to add my custom CA certificate into the /system/etc/security/cacerts folder. This is what I used to do in my rooted devices before and worked fine.
I have flashed TWRP and taken a full backup (thank God!) and then mounted the system as RW, copied the file, rebooted and voila, boot loop on the Samsung Note 5 screen.
The only fix is to reflash the system partition from the original TAR file which makes me wonder - is there a mechanism that prevents system from being modified if the device is unrooted? Something like Samsung's system protection or something.
Could anyone try to reproduce the issue on an unrooted phone just to see if it's just me being unlucky? Or is is simply not possible to modify system without root? If so, how come TWRP allows me to do so?
Let me know what you think guys
Looking forward to hear someone else's opinion.
mateuszd said:
Hello
Let me know what you think guys
Looking forward to hear someone else's opinion.
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You must be rooted to make system changes.
You need to make some changes in ramdisk : remove support_scfs,verify from the fstab files for system partition
I have a Moto G6 Play. I had it rooted but I prefer to leave it unrooted. The only reason I had rooted it before was so that I could edit the system file: "system/etc/audio_ext_spkr.conf" so I can fix the "ascending ringtone". I can't hear my phone go off half of the time because it starts off really low and gradually increases the sound.
So is there a way to edit this file without rooting?
Thanks
No that's the point of root, to modify system. Only root user can edit system because if you aren't root, you're a user and as a user that would pose a security risk.
You want the ring tone to gradually get louder as it rings if I understand correctly. Have you tried any apps that claim to offer this?
Sent from my moto g(6) plus using Tapatalk
D o n a v o n said:
I have a Moto G6 Play. I had it rooted but I prefer to leave it unrooted. The only reason I had rooted it before was so that I could edit the system file: "system/etc/audio_ext_spkr.conf" so I can fix the "ascending ringtone". I can't hear my phone go off half of the time because it starts off really low and gradually increases the sound.
So is there a way to edit this file without rooting?
Thanks
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You only Can copy/move And delete whiout root, but You need TWRP. You can copy this file for you sdcard,. Edit move again for system.
Ok, first you need reboot to recovery -> advance -> mount ( select all boxes ) after you back to advance page, click in File manager, Now it's just you go to the file, and click on the box below and choose copy. Paste into sdcard and edit, boot your phone and Edit. Then just do the reverse process.
Sorry my English.
Hi, I want to ask some questions to you guys. Can somebody help me!
I have exposed in my Moto E4 Plus xt1770 Nicklaus. I trying to mod my battery icon, so I extract the framework.apk file in folder system, I changed the battery icon, and make new framework.apk (my mod), I replace and reboot. After boot I found nothing changed. I really confused from where the device get the default battery icon, because I had replaced that. But some is more interesting is, after that I can mount my data/system partition (I forget about data or system partition) in twrp, so I can't restore that with twrp. My device is work, but I can mount some partition in twrp so I think should be some trouble. Any way I have another case. I get flash my device. After that I rooting with magisk and install Xposed again, now I try changing boot animation. I replace the boot animation.zip in system/media and reboot. But I got the boot animation is not changed, from where the device got the default video, I had replaced . Any way I sure my procedure from all modding I do is right. So I start to thinking. I think Xposed can manipulate the system UI and framework,
so I wanna know are modding framework apk or systemui is have different way for device with Xposed n device without Xposed?
Sorry if my explanation is not clear, but can someone to help me for understanding what going on. Thanks:laugh:
I just flashing my phone, so I don't have XPosed in my phone. After rooting I tried replace bootanimation.zop in "dev/system/media", after reboot I found my boot animation still default. But deferent when XPosed installed in my phone, in case without XPosed, my phone doesn't have any issue like, Bluetooth share stopped, systemui stopped. I got my phone very normal after I'm using for couple hours.
So now I think I do wrong modding procedure,
*Are true if you want to change battery icon, you can do it with modding framework.apk (replace the default icon)?
*Are true you can change boot animation with replace boot animation.zip in "dev/system/media"?
I do that, but all still default. Huft...
I think, I don't wanna modding it any.
Actually I have made my own battery icon. I really want to use it. You know, I'm newbie. So it's so difficult n much time to made it .But now I give up, I got stuck.