aptx HD - Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers

Hi, I understand the P20 Pro hardware supports aptx and aptx HD butdoes this work out of the box or does a codec need to be installed? I can see it in the Bluetooth section of the developer options but I can't select anything but SBC.
Thanks

jccrawfo said:
Hi, I understand the P20 Pro hardware supports aptx and aptx HD butdoes this work out of the box or does a codec need to be installed? I can see it in the Bluetooth section of the developer options but I can't select anything but SBC.
Thanks
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Do you have compatible head phones?

belloni said:
Do you have compatible head phones?
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Does the option only change when connected to a compatible Bluetooth receiver? I thought my car receiver was compatible but if that's the case then I guess not.

I had the same issue with regards to Bluetooth defaulting to SBC, after some reading I discovered that it was possible to change the Bluetooth mode on my headphones by holding a button combination, it went from prefer connection to prefer sound quality and unlocked aptx and LDAC on my Sony MDR-1000X. So the P20 Pro is definitely capable of it without any additional codecs.
Maybe read the manual for your device and see if it also has something like this.

Highspeed123 said:
I had the same issue with regards to Bluetooth defaulting to SBC, after some reading I discovered that it was possible to change the Bluetooth mode on my headphones by holding a button combination, it went from prefer connection to prefer sound quality and unlocked aptx and LDAC on my Sony MDR-1000X. So the P20 Pro is definitely capable of it without any additional codecs.
Maybe read the manual for your device and see if it also has something like this.
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I have this problem too.
On my OnePlus One i can change the audio codec, it should not depend on the bluetooth headphones connected. My Mpow Wolverine sounds way better with the One Plus One, on the P20 pro it sounds like sh*** ;any suggestion?

I have headphones that are both SBC and AAC compatible.
Paired to my pixel, aac works great.
Paired to p20, it sutters, skips and is stuck on SBC

I noticed when there is an actual icon just after the Bluetooth device name of my headphones that says 'APT-X', in the phones Bluetooth settings.... My previous Huawei P9 didn't have it or support it so did surprise me a little as I didn't look into it when switching.

On the P20 you can change the BT codec (in developper settings) but the settings doesn't stay...

killtoo said:
On the P20 you can change the BT codec (in developper settings) but the settings doesn't stay...
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Yes, same to me.
It's a bit frustrating, seems like i have to buy another Bt headphone, also another usb c headphone.. but that is another problem

Same **** here, guys.
PowerBeats 3 are in AAC with Pixel and S9, but in SBC with my P20 Pro. And I also hate that EQ is not avaliable.
I have emailed Huawei, but those dumb idiots are asking for IMEI and system version... They don't realise, that it's a wide problem....
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Contentear Huawei Team, I have purchased my P20 Pro during a first sales week at your store in Singapore. In general, I am happy with it, but, I have COMPLETELY confused with your audio experience. PROBLEM: I own two pairs of headphones: Bose QuietComfort 30 and PowerBeats 3. I don't understand why I am not able to tweak EQ over the bluetooth! S7 was able to do it, old Sony Z2 was able to do it too, but 1000$ phone by Huawei with triple camera and AI can't provide damn equalizer! I don't need any processing by Dolby, I just want to add some bass, because I am lisening to EDM, not a classical music, I don't need a analytical audio presentation. Then, codec selection is broken! PowerBeats are not able to get their native AAC, and Bose are working in SBC mode. What a shame! I can't tweak audio, and I have to listen compressed nonsense. I didn't expect that I will have to deal with such problem in the 1000$ phone. Please, release the software update, I would like to have at least eq.
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Has anyone got aptx HD working? Is it much better sound quality than ACC?
Thinking of buying some Sony 1000xM2 which are aptx HD compatible but if the sound quality isn't any better, I won't waste my money

walters2001 said:
Has anyone got aptx HD working? Is it much better sound quality than ACC?
Thinking of buying some Sony 1000xM2 which are aptx HD compatible but if the sound quality isn't any better, I won't waste my money
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My Sony MDR100's use LDAC and sound great. They have a built in EQ profile that kicks in once they are powered on according to reviews. I could of sworn it was using APTX HD at first but I was mistaken.

Jonathan-H said:
My Sony MDR100's use LDAC and sound great. They have a built in EQ profile that kicks in once they are powered on according to reviews. I could of sworn it was using APTX HD at first but I was mistaken.
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Ah, I didn't know the P20 Pro supported LDAC.
Just got to wait for my Bose to sell on eBay now

Tried on a few different headphones here. Seems apt-X is working, AAC is not.
110 firmware.

My p20 pro is on order and not arrived yet, but what you should try is:
1. Clear bluetooth connection of remembered device
2. Enable Developer settings, go to settings->about phone->click on 'buid number' a bunch of times (8?? from memory)
3. Go to: Settings->developer settings->the bluetooth sections and select whatever you want to be the normal
4. Re-connect your bluetooth device. If its compatible then it will default to your previous selection.
At least, this is how it works on my S8, Zenphone 3 deluxe and Oneplus 3T, with my Sony WH-1000XM2 and audiotechnica headsetsand WI-1000X.
But they all have custom roms and i have never had a Huawei so im not 100% sure.

In theory the Bose QC 35 ii headphones support both SDC and AAC but I can't select AAC in the developer settings. Are others having the same experience?

jccrawfo said:
In theory the Bose QC 35 ii headphones support both SDC and AAC but I can't select AAC in the developer settings. Are others having the same experience?
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Yeah I get the same issue with the bose headphones but ldac works when I connected to a sony speaker

Im in the process of buying some earphones that supportthe newer aptx low latency codec as I will be using them for gaming aswell. We know p20 pro supports aptx and aptx HD but does it support aptX LL

stephen.brader said:
Yeah I get the same issue with the bose headphones but ldac works when I connected to a sony speaker
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Yeah just received my Anker SoundBuds Curve headphones and it shows aptX next to the connection in the bluetooth settings. I guess AAC isn't supported as it's not listed on Huawei's tech specs page- https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/phones/m/p20-pro/tech-specs/ I also don't see aptX LL on there so I supposed that's also not supported

I've changed nothing. Only installed .128 Firmware with funky Huawei. When I connect my Ultrasone Sirius Bluetooth Headset there is automatically a aptx-Icon near the name. Nothing to change in developer-settings. See my picture on instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjJm7k2D1pb/?taken-by=mmeidl78

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Does nokia 8 have aptx bluetooth audio

I've just ordered a Nokia 8 because I thought it ticked all my boxes, but worryingly now that I've paid for it (it hasn't arrived yet) I see that I forgot to check for AptX codec, and I use aptx bluetooth headphones extensively. GSM Arena and other spec sites say that it does not have AptX.
Schoolboy error there, but I've not owned a phone without aptx for years, going back to the Xperia Z1
Hoping for some news that it's possible, maybe with the Oreo update?
Qualcomm are bragging about how aptx is coded in silicone on the 835 too
HarpingOn said:
. GSM Arena and other spec sites say that it does not have AptX.
Hoping for some news that it's possible, maybe with the Oreo update?
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You can change the codec to aptx Codec in dev options
Powered by Nokia 8
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17ZEO3DxWpkAkMS3BpKcMFUcQsx3g0yWt/view?usp=drivesdk
As stated above I believe this is what you're looking for
https://youtu.be/Cyjpf_DF0FE?t=3m40s
kunjar said:
As stated above I believe this is what you're looking for
https://youtu.be/Cyjpf_DF0FE?t=3m40s
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A commentator on reddit claims these are null-ops on Nokia 8, that the options don't stick if you exit the menu and come back in, and they don't make any difference.
I guess Nokia just didn't pay the license fee, and due to the locked bootloader we can't twrp flash a driver file (or, can we somehow?)
I'll have to wait until I get the Oreo update to test it myself, UK hasn't got that yet
Same here, I didn't think of checking whether such an advanced phone as the N8 supported aptX...has there been any progress on this issue?
It doesn't support AptX, if you select it, leave the menu and then go back in it will have deselected it as it is unsupported.
Right and while streaming music to aptX headphones you can see that selecting aptX does not actually switch the stream, you can only switch between sbc and aac.
Maybe Pie will change that like it did on the Nokia 7 apparently...

All Mate 10 Pro have Crippled Bluetooth

I have noticed this is a widespread issue and I've decided to raise it. This needs to be fixed and Huawei should stop ignoring this problem. The Bluetooth is basically crippled and locked to SBC. I've tested multiple devices and all exhibited this behaviour. Why is it ignored? Are all the reviews fake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-sifkojUqw
i read that Bluetooth options in pixel dont stick too. so it must be some wierd oreo crap. you cant even change gpu renderer. it always defaults back. best way to handle that is to chat with huawei support and check it out.
I don't use Bluetooth very much but it appears to be the same for the regular Mate 10 as well. I'm currently using my virtual desktop so I could not test if after changing the setting in developer mode does it stick after a reboot?
this confusion is due to a lack of follow-through. all oreo devices have this "issue". it's not an issue at all. if a connected bluetooth device supports these codecs, the best one will automatically be selected. it is not limited to huawei devices. this is normal and does not affect functionality. you should take down this thread so no one throws any fits for no reason.
Well mine switches to aptX automatically when I connect to aptX-compatible devices. However you are correct that I cannot manually change it in developer settings.
Further testing has shown this issue not to be an issue, I've managed to successfully connect to an APTX device and the codec was selected. Video removed. Apologies for this confusion.
perrin21 said:
Further testing has shown this issue not to be an issue, I've managed to successfully connect to an APTX device and the codec was selected. Video removed. Apologies for this confusion.
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Doesn't matter, it will still randomly switch to loudspeaker and the quality will still be terrible.
tr1cky1 said:
Doesn't matter, it will still randomly switch to loudspeaker and the quality will still be terrible.
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I don't have any issues regarding Bluetooth for now, haven't really tested aptx I think, but it worked fine otherwise. And never switched to loudspeaker or so
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perrin21 said:
I have noticed this is a widespread issue and I've decided to raise it. This needs to be fixed and Huawei should stop ignoring this problem. The Bluetooth is basically crippled and locked to SBC. I've tested multiple devices and all exhibited this behaviour. Why is it ignored? Are all the reviews fake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-sifkojUqw
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It's not crippled, it's buggy.
SBC and aptX have high noise floor and specially on SBC, it causes some deformations to the Audio.
AAC is totally broken.
DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
I don't have any issues regarding Bluetooth for now, haven't really tested aptx I think, but it worked fine otherwise. And never switched to loudspeaker or so
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Good for you, people here all have Bluetooth problems:
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...oth-problem.853624-page-19.html#post-10970173
I have no issues with my Bluetooth headphones, the Sony WH-1000NX2
The highest quality of transmission is selected automatically, LDAC, that's 990 kbit/s
It's the best Bluetooth can do in the Audio section.
The Sony headphone App confirms the LDAC connection
i am trying my friend's MDR 1000x. i tried both SBC and LDAC. Now I can't go back to LDAC. Help please
Aac not working on p20 pro, works fine on the pixel 2
Bull****.
AAC No longer works on my head unit and my Bose QC35 Headphones.
It worked perfectly before 8.0.0.128 update.
Factory Reset does not work, nothing works. It refuses to use anything else than ****ty SBC.
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Good for you, people here all have Bluetooth problems:
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...oth-problem.853624-page-19.html#post-10970173
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they are reporting issues with many devices on that forum. android has always had some issues with bluetooth. huawei is no exception. my samsung and sony devices were the best by far. i think it's because of improvements that they make to the android system.
Anyone on b142? Can you comment on if the Bluetooth audio quality is better?
Can anyone confirm if b142 solved sbc problem? I think aac is stilo broken, but sbc quality?
Kekkolekko94 said:
Can anyone confirm if b142 solved sbc problem? I think aac is stilo broken, but sbc quality?
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Solved.
I don't have a clue what you guys talking about with all those 3 and 4 letter/digit combinations of names but i feel I've gotta share i use Bluetooth all day long for different kinds of profiles and i mean all day long, and to say this doesn't fail nearly as much as nougat did would mean i imply it does fail to a certain, however small, degree, which isn't even close to being the case, so... But i do notice the in band ringing settings don't stick just like they don't stick in my Oreo S5...
I've had Android phones since 2012 and the Huawei mate 10 pro is the only one with Bluetooth issues. Constantly dropping parts of songs when connected to my mazda 6. Infuriating to say the least. The most expensive phone I've ever had....

Aptx codec dont work on Oreo keeps reverting to SBC.

Is Aptx codec enable on Oreo?
Every time I change it it keeps reverting to SBC but my headphones are aptx HD compatible....any ideas?
That's because the Note 8 supports just Aptx and not Aptx HD
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That's because the Note 8 supports just Aptx and not Aptx HD
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Thanks for your reply but not relevant because it should work fine hd or not....
And it's the same whith the Sony codec, none sticks and notice that when you change the codec in the developers zone and then you just start Bluetooth without any device paired it reverts to SBC automatically. Someone is able to change it?
madjose said:
Is Aptx codec enable on Oreo?
Every time I change it it keeps reverting to SBC but my headphones are aptx HD compatible....any ideas?
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In fact, at least for me, as soon as it connects to a paired device it auto selects the compatible codec.
For my MacBook pro it's AAC, for the Sennheiser Momentum is aptX, for the Bose SoundSport wireless is again AAC.
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In fact, at least for me, as soon as it connects to a paired device it auto selects the compatible codec.
For my MacBook pro it's AAC, for the Sennheiser Momentum is aptX, for the Bose SoundSport wireless is again AAC.
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Do you have a exnos Note 8?
I dont get it....my headphones are aptx and connect right whith the LG v30 so the problem is whith the Note...
Even whith a Sony headphones the LDAC don't work....always revert to SBC.
Don't know if it's a bug or samsung don't allow them to work .
Does anyone whith N950F got it working?
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Do you have a exnos Note 8?
I dont get it....my headphones are aptx and connect right whith the LG v30 so the problem is whith the Note...
Even whith a Sony headphones the LDAC don't work....always revert to SBC.
Don't know if it's a bug or samsung don't allow them to work .
Does anyone whith N950F got it working?
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Yes, I have a N950F Exynos.
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Yes, I have a N950F Exynos.
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Thanks....I will try a factory reset maby it solves.
So when you connect Bluetooth it changes automatically to the right codec?
You don't do nothing?
At least im not the only one whith this problem....but no solution....lol
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Thanks....I will try a factory reset maby it solves.
So when you connect Bluetooth it changes automatically to the right codec?
You don't do nothing?
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Yes, nothing at all, it just happens.Between 2 connections it switches back to SBC.
I hope that you will sort it out
Hi guys any idea to fix it ? I'm in the same case
I made a factory reset and still the same....
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I made a factory reset and still the same....
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What BT device are you connecting to? For my Sony WH 1000x I have to select LDAC manually as it uses Aptx by default.
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Look here you will see a solution in this short thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/oreo-bt-audio-codecs-t3777511
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What BT device are you connecting to? For my Sony WH 1000x I have to select LDAC manually as it uses Aptx by default.
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Look here you will see a solution in this short thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/oreo-bt-audio-codecs-t3777511
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Thanks but the codec menu dont appears to me whem im pairing the device and i can change it manually in dev options too but keeps reverting to SBC
I even went to retailer to try whith others headphones and sound bars and it's always the same result SBC...
So I know for sure that's my note 8 problem
My Headphones
madjose said:
Thanks but the codec menu dont appears to me whem im pairing the device and i can change it manually in dev options too but keeps reverting to SBC
I even went to retailer to try whith others headphones and sound bars and it's always the same result SBC...
So I know for sure that's my note 8 problem
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Did you try Developer Options.
I checked also I don't see BT codec option in the BT settings. Only available from Developer Options.
Edit: for LDAC I do get this option in BT settings so don't need to use Developer Options. Also Note 8 does not support Aptx HD.
jah said:
Did you try Developer Options.
I checked also I don't see BT codec option in the BT settings. Only available from Developer Options.
Edit: for LDAC I do get this option in BT settings so don't need to use Developer Options. Also Note 8 does not support Aptx HD.
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Yes i am using developers option and my headphones are aptx not aptx hd like is supose note 8 to have but dont activate....always revert to SBC
I tryed an app call "media codec info" and aptx is not apering in the list so i dont know if is realy activ or not....
Hi, after april update its working good....
Diference in quality sound is huge...thanks to who try to help me !
Do you have anything else connected to your phone via Bluetooth, at the same time? Like a Samsung Gear watch, Plantronics Headset, ...
If the second device is not aptx compatible the phone will stay in sbc on both/all devices.
I had the same problem but it got solved as soon as the Sennheiser Momentum was the only device connected to the phone by Bluetooth.
After disconnecting all other devices, stop then restart bluetooth. It should connect automatically to your headphones on aptx.
Hope this helps.
You can't enable it on a device that doesn't support aptx. if the device supports aptx it will be enabled automatically in developer settings. When you disconnect it will go back to SBC
You have to turn off the "Dual Audio" option in settings... Will work after that

Mate 10 Pro LDAC Playback Quality

Hi, got a Huawei Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 8.0.0.136(C185) and a Shanling M0 as a Bluetooth receiver. When I get them connected using LDAC, there are two menu sections where I can set the audio quality to be fed to the M0. One is the Developer Options where, apart from selecting the BT codec itself, I can set sample rate at 44.1 to 96 kHz, bit depth of 16 to 32 bits per sample, and stream bitrate at 330 to 990 kbps. These settings behave in a weird manner, always reverting to default every time I disconnect the BT or even while it's connected. The other instance is the properties of an individual BT device where I can set the LDAC playback quality to either "Optimized for audio quality" or "Balanced audio and connection quality".
Problem: if the BT device is "Optimized for audio quality", I only get decent transmission if stream bitrate is set to 660 kbps or lower in the Developer Options. Inversely, if the latter is set to 990 kbps, it only works decently if the device-specific setting is "Balanced audio and connection quality". If both are set to maximum audio quality, the playback starts gagging violently, interruptions happening up to twice a second if the phone is active and like once every five to ten seconds if the screen is off (the two devices 5 inches away from each other with nothing but air between them).
I brought the Shanling M0 to the nearest Sony store and paired it with a demo phone with LDAC audio quality set to 32/96 at 990 kbps and it worked like a charm without a single hiccup.
Anyone else has this issue and/or aware of a fix?
I have been to a number of stores since the original post and was able to pair my Shanling M0 to various devices:
1. Huawei P20, Android 8.1, Bluetooth 4.2 - same problem.
2. Samsung Galaxy S9+, Android 8.0, Bluetooth 5.0 - no problem.
3. Samsung Galaxy A6, Android 8.0, Bluetooth 4.2 - no problem.
Apparently, Android version is not responsible for the malfunction, neither is Bluetooth version. It's the manufacturer.
Crap, crossing fingers about having this issue fixed. Have you reported it to Huawei customer service and Shanling's one ?
Thank you for the feedback. I'm interested in this small DAP (nostalgic for my beloved Sansa Clip), even if I'm quite sure I probably won't use the Shanling M0 as BT receiver.
Scalpos said:
I'm interested in this small DAP (nostalgic for my beloved Sansa Clip), even if I'm quite sure I probably won't use the Shanling M0 as BT receiver.
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If you ask me, you should just grab your money and go get it, because it works fine with other phones than Huawei. Even with mine, if I set it to "Balanced audio and connection quality", it's doing great. Actually, the LDAC standard bitrate of 660 kbps is amply sufficient to deliver music from major streaming services like Google Play Music. Whatever the problem is, I don't believe it's Shanling's fault, because the intensity of gagging depends heavily on whether the phone screen is on or off, which has nothing to do with connection quality.
As to the DAP itself, I find its sound signature and stage presentation nothing short of amazing, at least on par with my favorite Hidizs AP100 and far better than vivo Xplay6 or anything else I tried. Sansa Clip+ is nowhere near. The way I feel right now, I'm far more likely to ditch the Huawei phone than the Shanling DAP, because there are reasonable alternatives to the former, but not the latter.
anton79ru said:
If you ask me, you should just grab your money and go get it, because it works fine with other phones than Huawei. Even with mine, if I set it to "Balanced audio and connection quality", it's doing great. Actually, the LDAC standard bitrate of 660 kbps is amply sufficient to deliver music from major streaming services like Google Play Music. Whatever the problem is, I don't believe it's Shanling's fault, because the intensity of gagging depends heavily on whether the phone screen is on or off, which has nothing to do with connection quality.
As to the DAP itself, I find its sound signature and stage presentation nothing short of amazing, at least on par with my favorite Hidizs AP100 and far better than vivo Xplay6 or anything else I tried. Sansa Clip+ is nowhere near. The way I feel right now, I'm far more likely to ditch the Huawei phone than the Shanling DAP, because there are reasonable alternatives to the former, but not the latter.
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Indeed, I started following Head-fi.org's thread few weeks ago, this device looks great.
I currently own a Cowon Plenue D for more than 2 years, I'm quite happy with it: relatively small, great battery life and sound. But I'd like to have a smaller good DAP I can bring with me when I run, or simply don't want to suck smartphone's battery. I bought a Sansa Sport Clip+ (BT DAP) one year ago, crappiest DAP I ever met...
What's your battery life experience using BT head/earphones wiht this DAP ?
Hello there,
Just to share the using LDAC experience with a mate 10 pro (BLA-L29 145 (C432))
I have a Sony headsets (WH-1000XM2) and it works just fine, I'm able to use LDAC perfectly, sound is very good but you need to be close to the phone, 5m apart and it starts to break.
I know its not the same situation, but this is my experience.
Best regards.
And the volume?
Mine with my sennheiser 4.50 BT NC is very low..
Scalpos said:
What's your battery life experience using BT head/earphones wiht this DAP ?
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I have no such experience, I only use M0 as a BT receiver with wired IEM connected to it. I never even bothered to measure battery life, since it's more than two days of my regular use, i connect it to a USB port earlier than I need to charge.
sartan said:
And the volume? Mine with my sennheiser 4.50 BT NC is very low.
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If you want to control volume on your headphones, you need to set it to maximum on the DAP. The rest of it will be the responsibility of your headphones' integrated amp - if the volume's too low, then it's just not powerful enough, there is no way a bluetooth source can fix that, as it does not transmit loudness.
sadmam said:
Hello there,
Just to share the using LDAC experience with a mate 10 pro (BLA-L29 145 (C432))
I have a Sony headsets (WH-1000XM2) and it works just fine, I'm able to use LDAC perfectly, sound is very good but you need to be close to the phone, 5m apart and it starts to break.
I know its not the same situation, but this is my experience.
Best regards.
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Thank you very much indeed, because that's exactly the diagnostic step that I missed. Need to try that to locate the problem more precisely. Are you sure that the LDAC playback quality setting in your bluetooth device options was at "Optimized for audio quality"?
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I have no such experience, I only use M0 as a BT receiver with wired IEM connected to it. I never even bothered to measure battery life, since it's more than two days of my regular use, i connect it to a USB port earlier than I need to charge.
If you want to control volume on your headphones, you need to set it to maximum on the DAP. The rest of it will be the responsibility of your headphones' integrated amp - if the volume's too low, then it's just not powerful enough, there is no way a bluetooth source can fix that, as it does not transmit loudness.
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With other smartphone is working perfectly and with strong volume.
Where is possible to maximize the volume on the DAP? Simply with volume buttons?
Thanks.
sartan said:
With other smartphone is working perfectly and with strong volume.
Where is possible to maximize the volume on the DAP? Simply with volume buttons?
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I would suggest that you go to the Shanling M0 thread on head-fi, there's a company representative on that forum who's very cooperative, you should describe your issue to him. I wish I could give you a hand, but my experience is limited to operating the volume wheel on the DAP.
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Thank you very much indeed, because that's exactly the diagnostic step that I missed. Need to try that to locate the problem more precisely. Are you sure that the LDAC playback quality setting in your bluetooth device options was at "Optimized for audio quality"?
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Yes... it has to be... or it wont use LDAC at all... it will use APTX or something else... LDAC is only used on the setting "Optimised for audio quality".

LDAC Playback quality stuck on Best Effort, unable to change

I have a 4XL and have noticed that it is not possible to change the Bluetooth settings under developer settings. For example I have Sony WH1000 M3s and whilst it connects using LDAC it defaults to ‘Best Effort’ for LDAC quality settings and cannot be changed. It also will not let me choose another codec such as APTX-HD.
My understanding is that on Pixels (well for the Pixel 3 at least) that best effort results in a lower bitrate than SBC? So this is potentially crippling thre audio quality.
Anybody else noticed this? If so, any solution?
Lucky you.
I just picked up a pair of V-Moda Crossfade 2 Wireless Codex cans, and I can't get any other codec besides SBC working via the Developer options.
Yes, I have same and noticed that.
Trying to use AptX HD also doesn't stick. You can do it in Developer Options by messing with other BlueTooth settings first to match what AptX HD would allow but the next time I connect my headphones it's gone back to LDAC.
I think the main problem is Sony's Headphones app which defaults to LDAC (of course as it's Sony's proprietary codec!) and lack of controls to use other codecs and settings.
In that app I have Sound Quality preference selected at the bottom which actually may be using a better quality setting, it just isn't reflected in what you see in the Developer Options settings.
Interesting, the LDAC issue might not be fixable but maybe removing the Sony app will allow aptx-hd to be selectable?
Btw, other droids are not much better. Samsung’s do let you change the setting but revert back to best effort every time you connect. Only the P30 pro seems to remember but then Huawei have put that option into the normal settings rather than leave it buried in developer settings.
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Interesting, the LDAC issue might not be fixable but maybe removing the Sony app will allow aptx-hd to be selectable?
Btw, other droids are not much better. Samsung’s do let you change the setting but revert back to best effort every time you connect. Only the P30 pro seems to remember but then Huawei have put that option into the normal settings rather than leave it buried in developer settings.
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On the Samsung Note 10+ 5G now allows selection of best audio quality for LDAC, but the the connection quality between the Sony XM3s and the 10+ is very poor. All pointless.
Kind of begs the question as to how much the on paper advantage android has with LDAC and APTX-HD really counts in the real world.
Honestly, irrespective of codecs I actually think iPhones sound better over Bluetooth which is a massive shame and totally unnecessary.
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Interesting, the LDAC issue might not be fixable but maybe removing the Sony app will allow aptx-hd to be selectable?
Btw, other droids are not much better. Samsung’s do let you change the setting but revert back to best effort every time you connect. Only the P30 pro seems to remember but then Huawei have put that option into the normal settings rather than leave it buried in developer settings.
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Would the headphones even work without the app? I haven't tried.
Would they default to some built-in setting without the app to communicate with?
You go first!
Headphones definitely work without the app, I have used them before on a previous phone and forgot to install it.
BTW everything works as it should the P30 pro, you do not even have to go into developer settings to change it.
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I'm also unable to get my 4XL into 909/990 kbps mode, but I noticed that Pixel 4 XL seems to default to 606/660 kbps mode, which is more or less comparable to aptX HD(576 kbps). And I know for a fact that this is not an issue with the headphones or the app, since I get 909/990 when I connect the same headphones to Sony's Android devices with the app installed via LDAC Bluetooth connection.
Interesting, my 4xl defaults (and is stuck in) to best effort not 660 balanced mode.
I think on Pixels best effort is circa 330 kbps
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shaobocui said:
I'm also unable to get my 4XL into 909/990 kbps mode, but I noticed that Pixel 4 XL seems to default to 606/660 kbps mode, which is more or less comparable to aptX HD(576 kbps). And I know for a fact that this is not an issue with the headphones or the app, since I get 909/990 when I connect the same headphones to Sony's Android devices with the app installed via LDAC Bluetooth connection.
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Always defaults to Best Effort here which is 330kbps for Pixel 3 according to https://www.soundguys.com/understanding-bluetooth-codecs-15352/
I can set it to something else and when I next go into Developer Options it's back to Best Effort! Same with setting the codec to something else.
Pixel 4's best effort seems to be 606/660, not 303/330. At least that's what the bug report says. If the 3 only connects at 303/330, that's gonna be a problem when using new BT5.0 stuff from Sony. They're using an MTK chip for BT5.0, so no aptX, only SBC, AAC and LDAC on BT5 stuff from Sony.
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Pixel 4's best effort seems to be 606/660, not 303/330. At least that's what the bug report says. If the 3 only connects at 303/330, that's gonna be a problem when using new BT5.0 stuff from Sony. They're using an MTK chip for BT5.0, so no aptX, only SBC, AAC and LDAC on BT5 stuff from Sony.
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That's interesting and encouraging, thanks for that.
That is interesting, sound guys testing of the 3 and 3a indicated 330 for best effort.
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Pixel 4's best effort seems to be 606/660, not 303/330. At least that's what the bug report says. If the 3 only connects at 303/330, that's gonna be a problem when using new BT5.0 stuff from Sony. They're using an MTK chip for BT5.0, so no aptX, only SBC, AAC and LDAC on BT5 stuff from Sony.
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Out of interest, how have you been able to tell the bitrate it used for best effort?
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i was under the impression that this is relative to the device you connect.
Hi All,
There is a fix. I have the Sony WH 1000mx3 headphones and the One Plus 7 pro 12/256 fully updated. Enable developer options in settings on your Android phone if you haven't already done so. Remove then reinstall the Sony connect app (your previous settings will remain after the reinstall). Follow the prompt from the Sony app to connect your headphones by bluetooth. When the headphones are connected go to settings, Bluetooth and Device connection, then Bluetooth. Under available media devices you should see your Sony WH 1000XM3 headphones active. Click the settings icon to the right. Turn off HE audio: LDAC.
Open your preferred music streaming application (Tidal) and play music, verify that the headphones are operating. Go to system, then Developer options. Under Networking scroll down to the Bluetooth settings. The Bluetooth audio LDAC Codec: playback quality has now defaulted to Streaming Optimized for Audio Quality. You can now adjust the Audio Codec, Sample rate, and Bits Per Sample to your preference. The settings will stay and won't need to be reapplied.
I hope this helps.
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bumping this thread, because I was looking for an answer, this was the closest to it.
I decided to dump the logs with adb, and found that my Pixel 4XL, latest and greatest updates as of May 2020, is negotiating 990 LDAC, with the 1000XM3s.
I can use the dev options to push it around to 330/660/990.
No matter what setting I use prior, if I go to auto, it will negotiate to 990, which is pretty awesome. I have not tested to see if it drops off if you walk away from the phone, but given the BT range I get with LDAC, I'm assuming not.
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bumping this thread, because I was looking for an answer, this was the closest to it.
I decided to dump the logs with adb, and found that my Pixel 4XL, latest and greatest updates as of May 2020, is negotiating 990 LDAC, with the 1000XM3s.
I can use the dev options to push it around to 330/660/990.
No matter what setting I use prior, if I go to auto, it will negotiate to 990, which is pretty awesome. I have not tested to see if it drops off if you walk away from the phone, but given the BT range I get with LDAC, I'm assuming not.
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That's good news, thank you for that.
How to know the bit rate is 990 using best adaptive?

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