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I have had my phone since November and use my screen 3-4 hours a day(or so says the battery stats) but on the lowest brightness and have not seen the slightest hint of burn in. Maybe if you use it in a dock where it is on all the time that would happen.
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I have had my phone since November and use my screen 3-4 hours a day(or so says the battery stats) but on the lowest brightness and have not seen the slightest hint of burn in. Maybe if you use it in a dock where it is on all the time that would happen.
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I'm sorry. I should have been more specific. That's my fault. I already have status bar burn-in. I just wanted to know if anything could be done about it.
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Anything?....
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Anything?....
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Man... do I hear that!
First thought it to just make the screen completely white and leave it that way to see if it will reset ( I have no idea if it will work... Just a random thought for you to do at your own risk)
In the end you probably have no choice but to go to Samsung Service center (Someplace that can fix the screen). I figure that there is just no other way than replacing display module.
Not that this helps...but...I'll just put this here anyway.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/20/2576059/amoled-burn-in-always-overlooked
I've been trying out "Burn-In Savior" from the Play Store and have had limited success with decreasing the contrast between the status bar and the rest of the screen. The thing is, on the Note, status bar burn-in isn't really burn-in at all. The status bar on the Note is black; which means that the majority of the pixels in the status bar region spend a great deal of time completely turned off. So, technically, the status bar doesn't get burned in at all. It's the rest of the screen that gets burned in.
So what I've been doing is using "Burn-In Savior" to rapidly age the blue subpixels in the status bar region. I'm only doing this to the blue subpixels because they're the only ones affected. They're also the ones with the shortest lifespan. The red and green subpixels show no signs of image retention whatsoever. So anyway, my plan is to rapidly age the blue subpixels in the status bar region with the hope that they'll catch up with the age of the blue subpixels throughout the rest of the display. I'll report back once I've got something to report.
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I've been trying out "Burn-In Savior" from the Play Store and have had limited success with decreasing the contrast between the status bar and the rest of the screen. The thing is, on the Note, status bar burn-in isn't really burn-in at all. The status bar on the Note is black; which means that the majority of the pixels in the status bar region spend a great deal of time completely turned off. So, technically, the status bar doesn't get burned in at all. It's the rest of the screen that gets burned in.
So what I've been doing is using "Burn-In Savior" to rapidly age the blue subpixels in the status bar region. I'm only doing this to the blue subpixels because they're the only ones affected. They're also the ones with the shortest lifespan. The red and green subpixels show no signs of image retention whatsoever. So anyway, my plan is to rapidly age the blue subpixels in the status bar region with the hope that they'll catch up with the age of the blue subpixels throughout the rest of the display. I'll report back once I've got something to report.
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Did you have any luck? I'm looking to buy an n7000 and i googled "amoled burnin n7000" and this thread popped up. Now i'm kinda scared to buy a device with no warranty that is prone to image burn in. Eek!
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Did you have any luck? I'm looking to buy an n7000 and i googled "amoled burnin n7000" and this thread popped up. Now i'm kinda scared to buy a device with no warranty that is prone to image burn in. Eek!
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Burn ins happen, well, not really that often as the internet might have you think. Most user have never experienced them so don't be scared. Also, most of them happened on Galaxy S generation devices - Galaxy Note's screen is manufactured differently and is supposed to have a lot better lifespan.
It is a problem - but nothing to be terrified of.
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Did you have any luck? I'm looking to buy an n7000 and i googled "amoled burnin n7000" and this thread popped up. Now i'm kinda scared to buy a device with no warranty that is prone to image burn in. Eek!
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Yes. It looks a lot better now. Don't let the post scare you off though. I loved the Note's display so much that I ended up buying the Tab 7.7 for my tablet just because it has a Super AMOLED Plus screen. I'll never buy LCD again.
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maybe a real solution to the problem?
ok, i have a suggestion.
the theory is, that the leds of the displays subpixels degrade faster, the brighter (higher current) they are driven.
in almost every case, the typical elements of the start screen or home screen burn into the screen.
in theory the solution would be to degrade all other subpixels in the same amount, cause you will not be able to repair them (reverse degradation).
so my method would be:
take a screenshot of the burnt in home screen with exactly the same icons and elements that got burnt in, simply invert the screenshots colors (with paint, gimp, photoshop or some photo editing apps) and display it for some hours/days (make sure the smartphone does not get switched off automatically) and magically the effect gets equalized perfectly more and more.
(for the clock it never will work perfectly, you would have to overlay the numbers from 0 to 9 manually)
in my opinion, this could really work, but i have not tested it! because i have an lcd screen. all at your own risk. if this works, give some feedback. maybe somebody would develop some software that inverts the colors automatically or is this already possible with some screen filters? i dont know.
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That's an interesting suggestion. Interestingly I found this forum because I went to the VZW to check out the GS3 and immediately got bored of it and went to the Galaxy Nexus. What I noticed of it setting on in the home screen for the past 8 months is there is very noticeable burn in on light colored scenes of the top bar and icons at the bottom.
I was shocked and immediately came back and google'd AMOLED burn in, I didn't know it was an issue. I don't think I could buy a SAMOLED phone now after seeing that. I want the Incredible 4G anyway, I like how it's smaller with the red camera and still has a beast Snapdragon S4.
I'm about soon to get the device, now I know in the 8/16GB era people got screen issue, maybe even 32GB, but I think to go for 32GB+3G.
If I correct, the 3G variant have different structure inside, so maybe just maybe ASUS could done something with how the screen attached ? or am I dreaming?
I don't know about the screen issues on the old devices, maybe you have some links for me? But I can assure you I received a 3G device with touchscreen issues.
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My 3g device has no issues with the screen or otherwise.
No Issues here on my N7+3G
That's the first Time i read about this
Got a 3g here... No screen issues but i got the power button problem... Sometimes the screen won't light up if i press it.. I'd say once in 2-3 days and i have to press it for like 5 seconds... Twice i had to cold reset the device (30 sec press on power button) to get the screen running by rebooting...
It really is a matter of luck considering the price/power ratio
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got my 32GB nexus7+3g version yesterday, so lucky not have screen bending or dead pixels problem so far. Think all because of ASUS QA control noticed the early problems, so the latter product line is fine. One of the tiny defect is, when rotate the screen to horizontal level, while tap the home and back buttons, it makes tiny cracking sound, after close check the screen, I found that outer screen and edge metal line are not fully mending tight.
3g version here - no problems. :good:
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I'm about soon to get the device, now I know in the 8/16GB era people got screen issue, maybe even 32GB, but I think to go for 32GB+3G.
If I correct, the 3G variant have different structure inside, so maybe just maybe ASUS could done something with how the screen attached ? or am I dreaming?
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32GB 3G here - all good, no issues at all - an exceptional device (from a long time Apple user)
Quick question for 3G users:
Is your sim tray kinda loose a little bit? I mean not loose but it is moving little bit left and right when i move it with my finger, is it same for everyone? I don't wanna lose it.
while my brothers 16GB had no screen lift, my 32GB had lift. I opened it and found that, while face down on the table, the top right screw was 2/3 unscrewed and while tightening it I saw that the screw about an inch or so down from it for the screen was missing all together. Luckily my 3G doesn't have any lift, at least not that I have noticed yet.
My only guess that they (ASUS), made a QA on it, and one better then on no 3G, I mean it's not like adding a flash memory, but rather add a 3G module, so they have had to make some big internal changes there, that may include the way how the screen holds.
Guys,
I've tried 3 different phones from Flipkart. The first one had the famous yellow tint issue which was down to a minimum in the next 2 devices that i tried so I guess it all depends on luck. But as luck would have it or OCD , I had new issues with them.
Both the replacement devices that I have tried so far have these 2 issues below:
1. Weird horizontal bands visible across the screen on light backgrounds (white/grey) most prominent on low brightness. They really annoy you when scrolling through your Twitter feed or any apps with a white background (Most on Lollipop!)
Best way to check these are in the default android dialogs of WiFi password or language choice.
2. I see static lines horizontal lines on the screen everytime the screen is touched and they disappear after 2 seconds of the touch. Again easiest way to check this would be to open the gallery and pull in the hamburger menu from the left. When touched to pull, mine shows prominent static/disturbance sort of ripples.
Can you guys check and tell me if these are common issues since both my replacement devices have these & I am really not upto trying another device after all the hassle.
Thanks.
I'll see the horizontal lines as well on light backgrounds, I just assumed it's a side affect of amoled.
Perhaps the lcd is defective?
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Can confirm that my screen also has the issue #1. I always thought it was probably a large AMOLED screen issue. Never faced issue #2 though. I also got mine from flipkart.
Issue 1 is what bothers me the most. Scrolling on white backgrounds is annoying, you feel these bands are not moving & look prominent.
Even more worried since everything's going white in Lollipop.
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Issue 1 is what bothers me the most. Scrolling on white backgrounds is annoying, you feel these bands are not moving & look prominent.
Even more worried since everything's going white in Lollipop.
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Though I dont have a similar problem but I am pretty annoyed with my purchase. My first device was replaced since it developed screen-burn within few days of usage. Surprisingly, the second device has also developed screen-burn after 10 days of usage and the nav keys are permanently embossed on the screen which can be clearly seen on grey backgrounds.
The strangest part I found about both the devices was they were turned on right out of the box One click to the power button and the phone was already in the setup mode asking to select a language. White color reproduction is way off on this device and looks pale yellow instead of white I somehow feel that I should have stuck with my Nexus 5 instead of falling for this. At-least for now, I'm done with AMOLED's
So have you returned the Moto X?
Motorola seems to have major QC issues. Distorted speaker, yellow tint, weird lines and burn-in.
It's a great phone but the screen has major issues. I am on the fence now about trying a 4th replacement device but worried it'll have more issue.
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I'll see the horizontal lines as well on light backgrounds, I just assumed it's a side affect of amoled.
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You mean you the permanent lines/bands visible at all times behind the screen?
So are you fine with those lines? Don't they bother you when using apps with white backgrounds like Hangouts.
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You mean you the permanent lines/bands visible at all times behind the screen?
So are you fine with those lines? Don't they bother you when using apps with white backgrounds like Hangouts.
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They are not there all the time. Only on light backgrounds. Best way I can describe it is if you've ever seen a plasma TV that gets horizontal purplish lines going vertically from a color source on an all white background. The horizontal lines on my phone follow the dark letters/images as I scroll up and down.
And I actually RMA'd the phone today because of it.
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They are not there all the time. Only on light backgrounds. Best way I can describe it is if you've ever seen a plasma TV that gets horizontal purplish lines going vertically from a color source on an all white background. The horizontal lines on my phone follow the dark letters/images as I scroll up and down.
And I actually RMA'd the phone today because of it.
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Oh alright. Let us know if the new device is any good. Thanks.
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Guys,
I've tried 3 different phones from Flipkart. The first one had the famous yellow tint issue which was down to a minimum in the next 2 devices that i tried so I guess it all depends on luck. But as luck would have it or OCD , I had new issues with them.
Both the replacement devices that I have tried so far have these 2 issues below:
1. Weird horizontal bands visible across the screen on light backgrounds (white/grey) most prominent on low brightness. They really annoy you when scrolling through your Twitter feed or any apps with a white background (Most on Lollipop!)
Best way to check these are in the default android dialogs of WiFi password or language choice.
2. I see static lines horizontal lines on the screen everytime the screen is touched and they disappear after 2 seconds of the touch. Again easiest way to check this would be to open the gallery and pull in the hamburger menu from the left. When touched to pull, mine shows prominent static/disturbance sort of ripples.
Can you guys check and tell me if these are common issues since both my replacement devices have these & I am really not upto trying another device after all the hassle.
Thanks.
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I had the dark horizontal bands on my replacement device they sent for the back separating. They were very prominent on light backgrounds and very distracting. I chose to keep my original device because the screen is perfect on it. I didn't want to take chances with replacements beyond that. I took pictures and notified Motorola of the issue.
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I had the dark horizontal bands on my replacement device they sent for the back separating. They were very prominent on light backgrounds and very distracting. I chose to keep my original device because the screen is perfect on it. I didn't want to take chances with replacements beyond that. I took pictures and notified Motorola of the issue.
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Oh, I've been pretty unlucky so far in that case, haven't got a screen without these bands. Well atleast there is hope.
But there's the same concern, will the replacement be better or worse than the one you have. In India, we have to hand over the device at the same time, so cannot compare the two devices.
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Oh alright. Let us know if the new device is any good. Thanks.
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So, I have not heard a thing from moto about my RMA label. On the site it said I'd get an email in 4 business hours, well all day and nothing. I'll have to call tomorrow I guess.
Well... Moto has no record of my RMA and I lost the RMA number because I took a screen shot and the pic didn't sync before I blew my current phone clean. They tried my IMEI and SN and contact info, it's like it never happened. They said they could try looking at the RMA number, but, I don't have it. No confirmation email either at the time of entering it.
So, I'm not going to bother again right now as others have said the replacements do the same. I got the two year warranty, so if the screen does eventually go dead, oh well.
What I will warn others of, is to WRITE DOWN the RMA number!
My first device was perfect - but I returned due to a scratch on the wood back. Second device is half yellow, half white tint with horizontal lines. It's like playing the lottery because the qc is still awful on amoled. I wouldn't mind if the full screen was yellow even but the half and half is terrible. Yellow can be fixed with color tweaks and wasn't all that bothersome anyway.
I have one dark line across the screen. I chatted in with them and I have to call them and ask for the REST department since mine was a custom one.
Use this free app to test your gamma detection. Works great!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester
I've seen this once or twice, it appears to be when the phone is on 2G and data is on 900Mhz LTE.
But I can't say it's very visible, I can barely make out a pixel or two vibrating in very specific settings.
What's your model number?
I have the XT1092.
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I've seen this once or twice, it appears to be when the phone is on 2G and data is on 900Mhz LTE.
But I can't say it's very visible, I can barely make out a pixel or two vibrating in very specific settings.
What's your model number?
I have the XT1092.
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Yep even I have the XT1092. I am trying to live with it for now. Have till Dec 10th to decide whether I want to risk another device.
The bands across the screen bother a lot more than the static lines. Hope Lollipop comes soon so I can make a final decision.
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Yep even I have the XT1092. I am trying to live with it for now. Have till Dec 10th to decide whether I want to risk another device.
The bands across the screen bother a lot more than the static lines. Hope Lollipop comes soon so I can make a final decision.
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You should try to capture it on a video clip, my lines are just barely visible in low light.
Film it and send it back for warranty with that video as proof. And post it here, I'm curious to what it looks like.
I'm pretty sure it's the LTE radio, because I can just barely make out the noise in my computer speakers when it's pinging the GSM tower.
Much like when old phones use 2G mode, but at a way faster rate and not as loud.
You might have gotten phones from a batch where they forgot EMI shielding or something like that.
Ive seen no threads on this issue so I decided to make one! But I wanted to know if anyone had any! Personally I had one stuck pixel on my tab s. Yet it was really hard to see I later got it fixed by doing a stuck pixel remover video for about a couple of hours and later installed discreet blue theme. Now its not there! I own the tab s 10.5 Wifi.
So... Has anyone else got a stuck pixel or an image burnt into their screen? Let me know below! Could be useful for others buying this tablet!
I've had the Tab S 10.5 LTE since release, use at least 8 hours daily for work and haven't got any issues in terms of the screen degrading like burn in or stuck pixels, have thoroughly checked to be sure, might have just been a one time thing, generally take years for a burn in on Amoled but even then I have had other AMOLED screen devices for years without a problem
No burn ins on my unit as well , im using the 8.4 as my primary phone and gps. Im always at 1/16th brightness. I also have a 4 yr old 7.7 slate, no burn ins as well. Seems like newer amoleds are not that prone to burn ins. Just to add, im using an all black theme.
Somehow (turning brightness all the way up all the time) my friend burned in a new note 2 in about 3 months. He used his phone a LOT as well.
My Tab S (about a month old now, auto brightness below 10-20% using Velis Auto Brightness, not much used) is perfect for now. However I saw the two 10.5" samples heavily burned at the local mobile shop. Also saw two months old Note 4 heavily burned at the same mobile shop. So it seems burn-in problem with this latest amoled screens still remains.
Thank you guys for your response! Yeah turning the brightness up to 75‰ is how I got mine. That was when I first got my tablet and had it on 75% for the whole month. I want to walamrt the other day to see the samples. The screen seem imrpoved from when I got mine. I will try to use a autobrightness app
Thread should now be a discussion thread about the burned in pixels. Guess I made it look like a question. Thanks forum mods for telling me about this problem and moving the thread back!
I assume this thread is for burned-in and stuck pixel questions/discussion?
If so: I just went to a couple of local stores to test out the Tab S, with an intention to bring one home. I didn't so far -- all devices (4 in 2 different shops) had pretty severe burn-in from the demo programs that Samsung installs and runs on the devices in the store. A couple of them so much that it was actually disturbing for things like browsing plain web pages (white background); you could read the "inverted" text that had burned in.
One store anticipated the device had been on for 10 hours a day since somewhere August last year, which would make it around 10*6*40 or about 2.400 hours of use -- presumably close to max output on the display in "demo mode".
This caused me to hesitate... is this a common problem with the devices, particular to early models, or just something that happens if you run it for too high output -- or will it happen eventually to all devices? A life-time of less than 2.000 hours seems quite low to me in any case.
Also, when/if it happens, are there any ways to "reset" the screen again, or is the damage permanent?
I have a ~2 yr old S4 that does NOT have any burn-in, but I also use that much less, not at 100% brightness and usually with varying content on the screen. I guess the display technology is similar even if the Tab S is a much newer device.
I never had burn in problems in any Samsung amoled devices (since S1).
Just made sure box was sealed and auto brightness was always on.
Actually, I personally have a worst experience with LCD with light bleed and other issues.
Yeah, No problems with my 10.5" Wifi , I watch a lot of Animi and always run it fullscreen, so no black bars, also i set brightness to auto -5 when i am using it indoors.
No stuck or dead pixels, fingers crossed.
John.
@pacc @tinderbox(UK): That sounds re-assuring. Sounds like it's still safe to go ahead and acquire the device (in my case probably the 32GB WiFi 10.5" edition). Hopefully this is the general experience by most people then.
On the LCD bleeding, then yes, that can be quite annoying too!
Just be glad you did not buy the 8.4" version as that is having some problems with the display that might affect some people.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/tab-s-8-4-screen-homogeneity-issues-t2826661
John
I have 8.4 version and the screen is in perfect condition.
You need to use one of the screen test app to check for any problems with the screen before you buy, or the time runs out for you to return the tablet for a refund.
Some people are not bothered, good for them.
John.
I'll test it out thoroughly while it can still be returned. Thanks for the heads-up on that issue as well
If you really want to find every possible quality problem with the display, view a light gray screen in the dark, using a screen test app , set the brightness to low, look for circles and clouding, as well as dead or hot pixels.
John.
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I'll test it out thoroughly while it can still be returned. Thanks for the heads-up on that issue as well
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I have an S4 I bought used and have used for about a year. It is getting heavily burned in. I am questioning how long this display will last. Hopefully by the time I need to replace it the screens will be cheap
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What was burned-in on your S4 , notification bar?, home screen icons? , were you using an navigator app? , how high did you have you brightness set?
Using an low brightness setting can reduce the change of screen burn-in, but if you live in an sunny country you most likely have the brightness set virtually to max to allow you to see the screen outside.
Thanks
John.
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I have an S4 I bought used and have used for about a year. It is getting heavily burned in. I am questioning how long this display will last. Hopefully by the time I need to replace it the screens will be cheap
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I decided to check for stuck pixels on my Tab S again. Turns out, I have 3 stuck ones now! They are really really tiny that I can even notice them. Took me a minute or so to search for them. In order to see them, you have to use a holo background and not full black ones. You would have to find an dark gray image or something like an inverted app but isn't full black which is a good thing for me I guess. The good thing is that they don't appear on bright colors (red,blue,white,etc) which I personally couldn't see it. A holo background or gray image is when I can see it the most. When I put a black image, its fully black with no stuck pixels in sight. So that could mean they still work and turn on and off fine. So I'm thinking it's just stuck when displaying colors other than black.
I've kept my brightness 1/4 bright all the time, only used it for watching videos and browsing the web mostly. It's been one year since I bought this and I personally don't mind it. This is what I've seen so far
Edit: using a screen filter app to darken the screen on an holo image made it show the most so I can see. This lowest stock brightness doesn't seem to show a lot unless you get close to the screen.
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A couple of weeks ago a guy bought an demo 10.5" and it had an perfect Samsung logo and stripe burned almost across the entire center of the display, the worst i have ever see.
He was asking would burning in the inverted image reduce the burn-in, I found the exact Samsung wallpaper responsible and inverted it for him, but i never heard anymore, it really needed an new screen.
John.
My wife has a Note 8 that she uses quite a bit. It's her primary internet device. She's had it since the beginning of October and already has burnin on her screen. It is a darker horizontal lines about 1/5 of the way down the screen and probably corresponds to a calendar or email widget that she has on the screen.
I know that there have been reports of navigation bar burnin, but she doesn't have that.
She came from a Note 4 and that thing had a massive amount of burnin.
This phone is two months old. I feel like for the money, it should last longer than two months without burnin.
Anyone else have this? Is it even worth bringing it to a Verizon store?
I have a Note 8 as well, but no burnin. But then I don't use my phone like she does hers.
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My wife has a Note 8 that she uses quite a bit. It's her primary internet device. She's had it since the beginning of October and already has burnin on her screen. It is a darker horizontal lines about 1/5 of the way down the screen and probably corresponds to a calendar or email widget that she has on the screen.
I know that there have been reports of navigation bar burnin, but she doesn't have that.
She came from a Note 4 and that thing had a massive amount of burnin.
This phone is two months old. I feel like for the money, it should last longer than two months without burnin.
Anyone else have this? Is it even worth bringing it to a Verizon store?
I have a Note 8 as well, but no burnin. But then I don't use my phone like she does hers.
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That's amoled screens for you... however I've never had burn in either on any Sammy oled device, had this Note8 since release date and it's fine.(as with all other Sammy oleds)
But don't think device is the problem it's how you use it like you said her note 4 was the same... Both are amoled screens,
My suggestion is either swap it for a phone that's not amoled or get rid of those damn widgets/theme the device so all the screen is being used / not used :laugh: if you had say a black wallpaper and white widgets on your screen , half the screen is actually turned off (where the black wallpaper shows).
Brightness levels and screen timeout times also would be worth changing
But sounds like the damage has already been done
I wonder if it could be a warranty claim or at least a screen replacement claim.
Wouldn't hurt to take it to the store and ask. Or chat with Samsing support online and ask them. Send them pictures of the burn-in. Samsung replaced a Galaxy Nexus I bought used back in the day that had really bad burn-in.