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Does anyone experience a "white shadow" problem on n1's screen?
when i read a document, i notice the margin area is not purely white, but there's "shadow" of text on the right
is this a amoled limitation of is it just me?
I will try to take photo if the explanation is not clear enough
another issue is that i've always found the n1's screen color to have a red hue
same for this, is it just me or do you have similar experiences?
Hey, no red hue but i do sometimes have a 'white shadow effect' which i notice looking at text, such as reading an email [not 100% sure if this is same problem as yours tho].
i was worried that this might be a problem with the screen but its just a fingerprint issue - all you need to do is wipe the screen!!
the finger prints left on the screen were what caused my white shadow, wipe the screen clean and all the text is evenly black.
magic
I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
I have the odd ghost shadows when reading black text on a white background too.
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I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
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I see this too. I just chalked it up to a byproduct of AMOLED screens or something. Doesn't really bother me and I don't really notice it that much either.
boxmander said:
I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
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hmm that's strange because i do sometimes have exactly the same problem and can see the problem disappear as i wipe the screen. From my limited knowledge about amoled screens it seems unlikely that the pixels could be experiencing some sort of 'come and go' problem such as this. If someone could put up a picture...
Well for the record this is a very minor issue, I like my N1 a lot, its hardly noticeable. However I am interested in investigating it, and attempting to take pictures of the effect was well, less then fruitful.
It turns out my digital camera doesn't take pictures up close that well, its actually pretty terrible. I was trying to get a screen shot app to try to capture it but the ones on the market are only for root users, and I haven't made the plunge into root, yet.
kiddyfurby said:
another issue is that i've always found the n1's screen color to have a red hue
same for this, is it just me or do you have similar experiences?
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I have this problem and it's very off-putting.
Does anyone know if it's theoretically possible to calibrate the screen à la a computer monitor to reduce this reddish casting? In greyscale photos all shades have a very noticeable pink tone (not photos taken by the phone's camera).
I'm giving this thread a kick, because I also experience this 'problem' of having (faint but clearly visible) ghost lines or 'white shadow' when viewing small text/objects (Nexus One), especially noticeable in the browser. The weird thing is, it completely disappears when switching to landscape mode. Turning the brightness down worsens the phenomenon.
It is also reported at Google's Android support, sadly I can't report the link because of my newbie restrictions I also found one report of the Desire having this problem.
I would ask felow Nexus owners if they want to turn down their brightness and report if they also see this ghosting in portrait view (i.e. when viewing an article on nytimes.com fully zoomed out), so we can conclude if this is an insoluble AMOLED related issue or an actual screen defect of your phone (RMA/waranty-issue).
I have the text ghost image on white background. I thought it was software issue, but since it disappears in landscape view that might mean its a limitation of the pentile sub pixel layout.
I think this should explain it. It's not really the AMOLED, but how the "pixels" are actually laid out.
arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/secrets-of-the-nexus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars
I read that this issue doesn't occur in the old Dolphin browser. I don't have my phone with me right now. Can someone try it? I doubt it has anything to do with the pentile subpixel arrangement. I mean if the part of the screen is supposed to be white, the pixel should display white, not grey. Probably a software issue, IMO.
I just checked, shadows on both. It's a screen thing.
My bad. You weren't using the Dolphin HD browser, were you?
Thank for your replies I don't think it is the browser though, the same problem persists in Gmail, Adobe PDF Reader and Documents togo, I suggest you use one of these applications to look at small text on low brightness. It might be a little more noticeable in de browser, but looks like it isn't a pure software issue. Can you confirm this finding?
@voiceunebunu: yes, I've read that, but that article concentrates on text fuzziness etc. because of the PenTile arrangement, but does not mention this 'ghosting-like' effect.
Of course this isn't such a 'big deal': I would rather have my screen calibrated so it doesn't show up al reddish and get a better screen view in daylight, but hey, I knew about those problems before I bought the Nexus, but this one seams to be very sparsely documented on the internet.
This effect reminds me of the first, monochrome LCD-displays, which also had this problem (only 100x times worse), especially if they grew older.
Possible work around?
Hi everyone,
I've found a work around for this!
Cyanogen 6 has a feature called "Render effect" and basically, there are options to change what and how colours are displayed.
The last three "calibrated" seem to be for the Nexus specifically. I've used all three and the "calibrated" and "calibrated (cool)" are my favourite. Both slightly change the colour output.
There is a slight yellow tint over whites. For my screen the ghost lines are greatly reduced (it used to be visible with normal size text and exceptionally bad when zoomed out). Now its only slightly visible when zoomed out!
Hope that helps!
Hi,
I have just purchased an HD7 and I really like it so far but I have a question regarding some screen distortion I am seeing when I scroll through menu's, apps, etc...
For example (and where it is most noticable although it does happen in other areas as well) when I go to the applications menu (where all apps are located to the right of the Windows screen) and I scroll through the apps from top to bottom, all the writing beside each app icon becomes so distorted while scrolling (almost static like) that you cannot even make out what the words are saying until the scrolling stops and then everything is ledgable again. Is this normal?
On my Galaxy S the scrolling does not affect the font / writing this way at all and even on my old Omnia i910 I dont remember seeing this type of distortion when scrolling.
If someone can please advise me on this I would really appreciate it. Is this normal for this device? Does yours do it? Anyway to fix it?
Thanks
yiannisthegreek
It's normal behaviour but I'm not sure of the cause. From what I've seen, this only happens when using the black theme. If you use the white theme it doesn't happen.
Shadowise said:
It's normal behaviour but I'm not sure of the cause. From what I've seen, this only happens when using the black theme. If you use the white theme it doesn't happen.
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Thank You for the reply. Really? Hmmm... That is odd. I wonder if this will be something that will be fixed in updates perhaps?
I use a black theme and this doesn't happen to me at all. Certainly not to the point it's unreadable.
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I use a black theme and this doesn't happen to me at all. Certainly not to the point it's unreadable.
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Hmmm... Now Im confused... One person says it happens to him and one says it does not.
Do you experience any distortion of the writing in apps, etc while scrolling? It is minimal when I scroll slowly but when I scroll fast it is quite noticable.
PS... I did also try the white theme and it does not do it in the white theme as was mentioned by the other poster... Only in the Black theme.
I guess I'm not sure what the deal is. When I'm scrolling fast, it could be a million dollar screen with perfect clarity and I STILL wouldn't be able to "read" what was there. I mean, I have 20-20 vision and am a pretty quick reader and I can barely read my chat log scrolling slowly. When scrolling fast enough to "distort" you would have to be able to read about 120 words per second (I scroll through three screens worth of text in less than a second, about 40 words per screen). That's 7200 words per minute which is darn near World Record Speed Reading (not counting those who skim most of it and lose a great deal of comprehension).
I'd just like to say that it's not a major issue for me, but it does happen. When scrolling the app list, the text does fade out, but I don't really see it as much of an issue as the items are moving so fast that you wouldn't be able to read the text at any rate. As the list is alphabetical, I know where I need to stop, I'm not reading the apps one by one as I go along.
I'm not sure now if the OP is experiencing a different issue but he did confirm, as I have, that it doesn't happen in the white theme.
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I'd just like to say that it's not a major issue for me, but it does happen. When scrolling the app list, the text does fade out, but I don't really see it as much of an issue as the items are moving so fast that you wouldn't be able to read the text at any rate. As the list is alphabetical, I know where I need to stop, I'm not reading the apps one by one as I go along.
I'm not sure now if the OP is experiencing a different issue but he did confirm, as I have, that it doesn't happen in the white theme.
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@Shadowise,
Yes... This is what I am talking about and again Thank You for your answers. I also really notice this when using the People Live Tile and especially in the synced Facebook listing. The text DOES fade out and the smaller the text the more faded it seems to become. Again... This is in the Black theme.
Also, I have noticed while in the People "hub" when scrolling from side to side that the screen itself darkens / dims out while scrolling and it also DOES this in the White theme as well. Is this also normal behavior?
If your not sure what I am talking about then please go into the People tile and just hold your finger on the top of the screen (where it says people in big letters) and slowly slide your finger and you will see the screen darken / dim out as it scrolls - unless there is something wrong with MY device in which case you may not notice what I am talking about.
Please let me know if this happens to you and if this is normal as well. Again... my Android does NOT do these things and so I am not sure if this is normal behavior.
Thanks in advance...
yiannisthegreek
My screen absolutely does not do this. The people tile actualy looks sharper than the apps screen, regardless of how fast I scroll. The screen does not dim out _at all_.
Black background.
It happens over here as well this is due to Motion Blur, the quality of screen used by HTC is poor and this is a known issue with the HTC HD7 and HTC Surround. HTC should have used a better screen specially for its flagship device on the Windows phone 7 platform. But i guess thats the main reason they didn't; the platform is new theres no need to increase costs for a niche emerging market.
Ok... I am confused again... One answer says that this absolutely DOES NOT happen to him and another answer says that it DOES... LOL!!!
This happens because of the 4.3" screen. It's not the best screen in the world. The 4.1" dell venue pro screen never exhibited this behavior and when I switched to the hd7 I noticed it immediately.
It's called response time, it's not fast enough as some other screen, basically it's more prominent while using black theme because it takes full response time (i.e. 8ms) for a pixel to change it colour from black to white and then to black again while you scrolling.
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This happens because of the 4.3" screen. It's not the best screen in the world. The 4.1" dell venue pro screen never exhibited this behavior and when I switched to the hd7 I noticed it immediately.
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The funny thing is that the more I play with it the more I notice that this only really happens within the stock Microsoft OS apps like People, Zune, etc. When I scroll through other 3rd party apps such as Facebook (actual app and not the synced version in the People tab), FIM (Facebook Instant Messenger), among other 3rd party apps that this fade out / distortion does not take place.
Anyone else find the same?
EDIT... I have confirmed the fade out / screen distortion to again seemingly only to be affecting the Microsoft stock OS apps again after going into Marketplace, Office, (along with the others mentioned above). It does not seem to affect 3rd party apps... Facebook, FIM, Yellowpages, YouTube, etc.
Again... Anyone else find the same or can check?
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My screen absolutely does not do this. The people tile actualy looks sharper than the apps screen, regardless of how fast I scroll. The screen does not dim out _at all_.
Black background.
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We're not talking about the whole screen, just the text.
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We're not talking about the whole screen, just the text.
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Actually... I am talking about like 3/4 of the entire screen when scrolling from side to side in any Microsoft stock OS App.
Like I said in my previous post... if you go into say the People live tile and place your finger on the top portion of the screen where in big writing it says "people" and just slowly start to move your finger to scroll you will see the bottom half of the entire page / app dim out until you remove your finger or it completes its scroll.
As I said... it does this on my device in EVERY Microsoft STOCK OS app like People, Zune, Marketplace, XBOX Live, etc but in 3rd party apps it does NOT do this. This happens in WHITE theme as well.
To try and reproduce this please go to any Microsoft OS App like "people", press your finger at the top of the page and move your finger side to side in short movements and watch your screen. You should see the dimming effect unless my phone is defective or something.
Please tell me what you find.
i'm pretty sure this is not a bug or an issue, it's just intentional, and it's 100% a software thing, you can see that in many wp7 reviews...
but a different thing is the effect you see scrolling the applist, that one is related to the hd7 screen and you won't see it using, for example, an omnia7
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i'm pretty sure this is not a bug or an issue, it's just intentional, and it's 100% a software thing, you can see that in many wp7 reviews...
but a different thing is the effect you see scrolling the applist, that one is related to the hd7 screen and you won't see it using, for example, an omnia7
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Do you have an HD7? Can you confirm if your screen does the same "dim / fade out" thing in the Microsoft apps as I have described? Also... Why does it not do this in 3rd party apps then like youtube for example? I have even checked the HTC Hub app and in the HTC app store it does not fade / dim out but it sure does in the Microsoft Marketplace app. Weird.
As for the thing you mention about the app list and the screen - well that is my first big dissapointment with this phone. I have a Samsung Galaxy S and of course the SAMOLED is AWESOME but this phone is said to have the S-LCD (Super LCD) display which is supposed to be a pretty good screen too.
Well... I found a youtube link regarding the BLACK theme scrolling words distortion. Here it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RperdOR8y5g
But I have not found anything about the screen fade/dimming in Microsoft apps so I hope one of you out here can reproduce it and tell me my phone is ok (even though it will still kinda suck)... LOL!!!
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It's called response time, it's not fast enough as some other screen, basically it's more prominent while using black theme because it takes full response time (i.e. 8ms) for a pixel to change it colour from black to white and then to black again while you scrolling.
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this is the full reason why ^
Sorry didnt know where to post this at..
I have a question.. On your note.. If you go the brightness and turn it up all the way.. Then go to Live Backgrounds and choose the Windmills (Weather) and have it rnning.. Look by the sky and by the mills ands see if you can see lines in it on the screen.. I noticed this with mine and I want to know if it is just mine or everyones.. Also why does mine slow down after a few days and it seems I have to reimage it to get it back up and running fast.. You can see it at the very top toward the right it just looks like wavy lines...
Patrick
It's been well documented that the Galaxy Note has banding issues, but it's due to the fact that a fair amount of apps only support 16-bit color depth and Note supports 24-bit. There is nothing wrong with your screen.
You can read more about the banding issue here.
My 10+ arrived yesterday and so far I've been impressed with two exceptions. As mentioned in other threads my finger sensor leaves a lot to be desired but my point of this thread was about an odd look my screen had. It was not bright and sharp like my 8+. There was a yellowish tint. I went into the 8+ to see if there were any differences in my display settings and I fixed the problem my by changing the screen mode on the 10+ from natural to vivid (Settings > Display > Screen Mode). The options were different on the 8+ but on the newer version it's one of the two, vivid or natural.
Just wanted to share that in case anyone else is having the same issue.
One question. My 10+ came with the screen protector and I've never had one. I assume they take away at least a small percentage of your brightness and clarity? I'm tempted to remove mine to see.
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My 10+ arrived yesterday and so far I've been impressed with two exceptions. As mentioned in other threads my finger sensor leaves a lot to be desired but my point of this thread was about an odd look my screen had. It was not bright and sharp like my 8+. There was a yellowish tint. I went into the 8+ to see if there were any differences in my display settings and I fixed the problem my by changing the screen mode on the 10+ from natural to vivid (Settings > Display > Screen Mode). The options were different on the 8+ but on the newer version it's one of the two, vivid or natural.
Just wanted to share that in case anyone else is having the same issue.
One question. My 10+ came with the screen protector and I've never had one. I assume they take away at least a small percentage of your brightness and clarity? I'm tempted to remove mine to see.
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Keep in mind that Natural should follow the sRGB color space. Most displays have default colors that are too cold/blue (high color temperature, and I know, it's counter intuitive but that's what they call it ). Relative to "colder screens", sRGB will seem warmer / more yellow. But it's also much more accurate as far as color representation goes, and should be closer to what you see with your eyes unfiltered by sunglasses. This assumes whatever image you're looking at is also taken with neutral colors and not over saturated.
I usually calibrate all my screens to have more accurate colors, at the expense of that "pop" you can get with AMOLED screens.
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Keep in mind that Natural should follow the sRGB color space. Most displays have default colors that are too cold/blue (high color temperature, and I know, it's counter intuitive but that's what they call it ). Relative to "colder screens", sRGB will seem warmer / more yellow. But it's also much more accurate as far as color representation goes, and should be closer to what you see with your eyes unfiltered by sunglasses. This assumes whatever image you're looking at is also taken with neutral colors and not over saturated.
I usually calibrate all my screens to have more accurate colors, at the expense of that "pop" you can get with AMOLED screens.
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That "pop" is exactly what I'm looking for so would you suggest I stick with vivid? I understand what you're saying about the colors but it's not an area I'm real familiar with. I'm just not seeing a brightness on the level I prefer and yes I have it set as high as possible.
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That "pop" is exactly what I'm looking for so would you suggest I stick with vivid? I understand what you're saying about the colors but it's not an area I'm real familiar with. I'm just not seeing a brightness on the level I prefer and yes I have it set as high as possible.
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Yeah, you'll want to leave it on vivid if you want that "pop". I also know that when my current Google Pixel got the Pie update, the auto-brightness was a bit finicky at first, as it's an "intelligent" brightness and it takes a few days to learn your preferences for the right brightness based on the lighting conditions. So that might be the case with the S10 as well, and I should be picking up mine tomorrow so then I'll know more about how it works exactly.
Also I think I read somewhere that the S10 will only get very bright in direct sunlight if it's set to auto-brightness. You apparently can't set it to that level manually. So perhaps play around with that a bit.
Any news on this? I just picked up my s10 plus and the screen has a yellow tint and seems less bright compared to my note 8...not sure if I just ask for a replacement. Thanks!
I always run mine on Vivid and WQHD and as expected the S10 is spectacular
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im surprised there isnt adaptive display mode like on the previous models this really made different colours pop. mine seems to have a bit of an orange tint
I also found it too yellow.. Go at the advanced settings and reduce the green close to the minimum and the red just a little bit. It will look white again..
Because of the sun light some people find yellowish colours more natural..
Yeah the whites don't look good on the s10 compared to my note 8
Just compared mine with different demo models and they all seem a bit more 'natural'. No need to swap it for a different one, allthough they all are a bit different...one more leaning towards blue white and the other to yellowish white.
Well coming from pixel 3, to me, Colors looks natural. S10 screen is crisp and clear. Nobody can best sammy when it comes to screens. I am using natural mode. Vivid mode is having too much pop.
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My 10+ arrived yesterday and so far I've been impressed with two exceptions. As mentioned in other threads my finger sensor leaves a lot to be desired but my point of this thread was about an odd look my screen had. It was not bright and sharp like my 8+. There was a yellowish tint. I went into the 8+ to see if there were any differences in my display settings and I fixed the problem my by changing the screen mode on the 10+ from natural to vivid (Settings > Display > Screen Mode). The options were different on the 8+ but on the newer version it's one of the two, vivid or natural.
Just wanted to share that in case anyone else is having the same issue.
One question. My 10+ came with the screen protector and I've never had one. I assume they take away at least a small percentage of your brightness and clarity? I'm tempted to remove mine to see.
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So even I had the same thoughts when I got hands on my S10+. Was worried the screen had some issues and hence went to the Samsung store and compared with the display phones - there was no difference between what I had and the display ones. However, when I compared with my S8+ I found that S8+ display was more blue-ish than S10+. The response from Samsung was that by default Samsung had toned down the blue light in the S10 screens for improved readability.
However, I feel the colors had lesser contrast in my S10+ screen compared to my S8+ and that is a bummer - at least for me!
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So even I had the same thoughts when I got hands on my S10+. Was worried the screen had some issues and hence went to the Samsung store and compared with the display phones - there was no difference between what I had and the display ones. However, when I compared with my S8+ I found that S8+ display was more blue-ish than S10+. The response from Samsung was that by default Samsung had toned down the blue light in the S10 screens for improved readability.
However, I feel the colors had lesser contrast in my S10+ screen compared to my S8+ and that is a bummer - at least for me!
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I have found that applying "blue light filter" and setting it's effect to minimum fixes the color saturation and reverses the washed out look on images. Another way is to go into visibility enhancements -> color adjustment -> then either apply a filter there like "Tritan" or "personalize color" and follow the steps. To me I cannot see any difference between the above steps or just simply applying "blue light filter" set to minimum. To me both look to correct the color saturation about the same.
I hope this helps you!
Hopefully they fix this soon!
Cheers ?
-Dorian
Hi guys. I think you might be encountering the display saturation bug.
The Galaxy S10 (USA Unlocked version in my case) has a peculiar bug in the display. When a photo is fully opened in an app such as Gallery, the photo's saturation becomes muted and cold (even with the display set to vivid and warm). It's very apparent with skin tones. I first noticed this when comparing identical photos between my S10 and S9.
If you hit the app switcher, the minimized card displays the photo with the correct saturation. Maximizing the app, causes the image to immediately turn washed out and Muted. This is appears to be a system wide bug, as it shows up in Gallery, Instagram and other places. I could not get this to show up with a screen recorder, since it's the display changing the image. I recorded it with my camera, but it appears very subtle. In person it is very obvious. I don't know how many are affected by this bug, but I'm seeing others talk about it on forums. Appears to affect all galaxy S10 models.
For a temporary fix, you can enable the blue light filter and set it to the MINIMUM setting. This will display photos in the Gallery and other apps with the correct color saturation. Hopefully Samsung will address this with a software update!
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Hi guys. I think you might be encountering the display saturation bug.
The Galaxy S10 (USA Unlocked version in my case) has a peculiar bug in the display. When a photo is fully opened in an app such as Gallery, the photo's saturation becomes muted and cold (even with the display set to vivid and warm). It's very apparent with skin tones. I first noticed this when comparing identical photos between my S10 and S9.
If you hit the app switcher, the minimized card displays the photo with the correct saturation. Maximizing the app, causes the image to immediately turn washed out and Muted. This is appears to be a system wide bug, as it shows up in Gallery, Instagram and other places. I could not get this to show up with a screen recorder, since it's the display changing the image. I recorded it with my camera, but it appears very subtle. In person it is very obvious. I don't know how many are affected by this bug, but I'm seeing others talk about it on forums. Appears to affect all galaxy S10 models.
For a temporary fix, you can enable the blue light filter and set it to the MINIMUM setting. This will display photos in the Gallery and other apps with the correct color saturation. Hopefully Samsung will address this with a software update!
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Hello All
Lately iam getting a black crush issue on my note 8(exynos) as shown in the image (downloaded from google but same issue)
Iam on the latest may update, tried the screen balance app which helped many pixel 2 users to rectify the same issue.
Kindly help.
Google - "black crush" screen issue refers to various dark shades displayed inaccurately. As a result, dark sections of videos or images come up with blocks or black, pixelated, or grainy, which is quite the opposite of what you'd expect from a top-notch, high-resolution display. The visuals rendered with this "black crush" issue are with significantly less detail, like a file that's lost most of its quality after heavy compression.
Simply put, rather than showing details, screens affected by this issue will show blocks of pixelated or black images in dark sections
I am runnng the latest update on my N950N and I don't have any black crush or color bleeding on my display...
I changed the versions from pie to oreo to custom roms, it still is with black crush and color banding.
Google says it is due to software color calibration, issue is it happens when iam below below ~40%battery in dark environment.
Screen balance app doesn't help , unfortunately.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanksss
Hi,
I have the same problem, do you solved? I think is a hardware problem.
Same issue on my SASSUNG NOTE 8 Exynos verison SM-N950F since March 2019 update...and stil not fixed...
Is your fixed now?