I am thinking about buying a Nokia 7 Plus but one thing is really bugging me.
I am currently using the OnePlus 2 which has a Notification LED and I have gotten quite used to it and I'm not very happy to give it up. The Ambient Screen might be an alternative for me but one thing about it is bugging me. It takes advantage of the face that OLED screen don't use any power to display black. But the 7 Plus uses an LCD.
So how much of a battery issue is using the Ambient Screen with this phone?
the Nokia 7 Plus does not have a always on display. the screen lights up if you get a message or pick up your phone
Yes like what they guy above said and the battery usage is minimal at best
You will get used to live without that led. It took couple days to get used just take phone to hand and it'll show you your notifications.
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You will get used to live without that led. It took couple days to get used just take phone to hand and it'll show you your notifications.
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I agree. I do not miss led notification that much either. I used to have Huawei P10 before with a tiny led which was in fact unusable in daylight anyway, therefore I find picking up this Nokia phone to hand shortly more than I liked the crappy led on P10.
Is it any specific movement of the phone that will make the screen come on? Does it happen when walking for instance with the phone in your pocket?
yes, the phone needs to lay down on a table frist and you need to lift it up. The screen lights up then.
I doubt this happens when the phone is in your pocket.
Tequila.CZ said:
yes, the phone needs to lay down on a table frist and you need to lift it up. The screen lights up then.
I doubt this happens when the phone is in your pocket.
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It happends. When I grab it from pocket it turns ambient screen on.
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Is it any specific movement of the phone that will make the screen come on? Does it happen when walking for instance with the phone in your pocket?
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if you walking without somersault then ambiend is not activated
is need specific movement, from desk pick up to face, or from pocket to hand, in fact needed moving about 90 degress
The phone uses the proximity sensor with the ambient display, so if phone is in pocket, then it won't be activated unless you pull it out of your pocket, and it doesn't need any specific movement, any movement will trigger it on
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[...]uses the proximity sensor[...]
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you're right... then is also possible walk with somersault
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it doesn't need any specific movement, any movement will trigger it on
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but this is not true, if you take out phone from pocket/case with movement only in one axis, then ambient is not activated...
Does it have the feature like the moto display, where you can wave above the screen to make ambient display light up and show notifications without touching the screen?
No it doesn't unfortunately – and this feature was borrowed from Nokia on the glance screen introduced in the WP8 era. I was too looking for a comeback on my Nokia 7 Plus.
On a side note – any possible hack to have this ambient display always on? My Lumia 1020 has an LCD screen and has glance screen that can be configured to be always on, so it's not technically impossible. It just consumes more battery, but I like to see the notification status and the clock at a glance without having to touch or hover anything.
Disinto said:
any possible hack to have this ambient display always on?
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wait to end(?) of august for P upgrade, in P DP4 this feature is already native (btw:i have DP4, but not enable this, then not know what this drain battery)
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the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
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Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
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To add on to that the phone also goes to sleep when the call is connected and its just a matter of pressing the power button to get it to wake up again.
mine doesnt
Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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is there a setting for this?
is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
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is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
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It should be possible, but no one has done anything with the light sensor of turning it back on. I'm thinking that the polling of the light sensor turns off when the screen is in standby. If we can somehow get that to work in only incall (so it doesn't have battery issues), then it should work, when it goes from little light to more light, it should act as close to phone to far away from phone.
One could even use 2 sensors for it? Maybe the Light-Sensor and the G-Sensor. So when u bring the phone to your ear the light gets dark an the position upright. (the phone turns the screen off) And as soon as it get brighter and the position is change to normal (whatever that is ) it turns back on.
I reall would love to write something like that. But so far i have no clue of writing anything for that phone. Does anyone know a tutorial for writing software for a pda?
Thx
Come on guys this would be soooo great
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Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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It doesn't actually do that when you put it up to your ear. It's a WinMo setting to put the phone in standby after a call is launched or received. What you preceive as behavior is actually a timing thing.
The guy from pocket shield managed to combine these two sensors, g-sensor and light sensor, to work together as locking/unlocking behavior.
maybe some g-sensor and lumos code can handle this thing... and create one cab solution here...
if some one could write this code it would be an AWESOME addition to the Phone. I would personaly love this as im sure many others would.
Thanks.
this is a bit late, but here's a cool app that i've found...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
no its not too late. if people look around they would have found it.
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the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
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searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
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searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
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reading is your friend..look at the dates posted
I honestly think it is far too sensitive. I just got my X today and I set it in my passenger seat to drive. The active display turned on about every 4 seconds because of the tiny bumps from driving. With the IR sensors turned on the display is turned on every time I set down my phone. I emailed Moto about making some kind of sensitivity setting. What do you guys think?
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I honestly think it is far too sensitive. I just got my X today and I set it in my passenger seat to drive. The active display turned on about every 4 seconds because of the tiny bumps from driving. With the IR sensors turned on the display is turned on every time I set down my phone. I emailed Moto about making some kind of sensitivity setting. What do you guys think?
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I wouldn't worry about it. It barely uses any power when it turns on because amoled. If it was an LCD screen, you bet I would be complaining
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I wouldn't worry about it. It barely uses any power when it turns on because amoled. If it was an LCD screen, you bet I would be complaining
sent from my Moto X (2014)
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I'm not really worried about battery life so much as it just annoys me to see my screen constantly turn on. Well, partly.
I made it like the 2013 version. Shut off the hand motion sensors so now it only responds to movement of the device. MUCH better on battery
Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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2nd that, if I could turn off the movement sensor I would also. The gesture sensor works pretty great, the movement sensor is too sensitive.
Yeah, mine blinks on and off all the time regardless of notifications or not. Received an update the other day for the sensors and it didn't change anything.
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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I totally agree. IR only and no movement would be great. I have IR turned off right now and I wish it didn't annoy me to have both on. I paid for these fancy new IR sensors and I'm not even using them.
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Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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I know what you're talking about, the screen does flash if you have a notification. I can obviously tell I don't have one, just take your phone and tap the corner of it or set it on your couch and then sit down, your active display will turn on.
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I know what you're talking about, the screen does flash if you have a notification. I can obviously tell I don't have one, just take your phone and tap the corner of it or set it on your couch and then sit down, your active display will turn on.
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If you are worried about the phone activating the screen too frequently - I think having it upside down will prevent that. The active screen doesn't turn on when in a pocket, and I think that could also be said for being upside down on the car seat next to you.
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If you are worried about the phone activating the screen too frequently - I think having it upside down will prevent that. The active screen doesn't turn on when in a pocket, and I think that could also be said for being upside down on the car seat next to you.
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I didn't think about that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Thinking about getting a Droid Turbo but not sure about the notifications....I currently have a Note 2 and I really like having a front LED for missed notifications. I am not sure if I would notice active display as quickly or not. I thought I would ask and get some opinions on which is preferred(if had the choice of both).
I do miss my led but I've had one since the Droid X. So far Its something to get used to for me. If you aren't sure you can just wave your hand over it. I wasn't sure about it but I'll give the blinkey light up for the performance I have now over my old S4
Honestly the active display is awesome but to disable it when driving because it tends to keep turning on without any notification when on my gps mount but for me it's no big deal. The active display won't affect battery much since this is a amoled display and only the needed pixels (white ones) light off and the rest are completely off.
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http://m.androidcentral.com/inside-moto-x-active-display
I watched a video of it for Moto X and the strobe rate does not seem to be often enough for me. Is it adjustable to where the notification can just stay on the screen instead of strobe? I check my current phone with only a brief glance for LED notifications, and I would surely mess the notification on active display if it's in between strobes.
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I watched a video of it for Moto X and the strobe rate does not seem to be often enough for me. Is it adjustable to where the notification can just stay on the screen instead of strobe? I check my current phone with only a brief glance for LED notifications, and I would surely mess the notification on active display if it's in between strobes.
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Is this why my screen seems to blink intermittently? It doesn't even seem to have a pattern... It's not like "regular"... omg, I want to disable this so bad!!! Definitely horrible when driving and mounting the phone in a mount. It's irritating and distracting.
I guess that I never noticed that there was no more LED to blink!
I missed having an LED at first, but the active display functionality has grown on my like a tumor! LOL!
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I missed having an LED at first, but the active display functionality has grown on my like a tumor! LOL!
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Same here! It's just so awesome! For me it's better because it's as if the led were on because of the amoled display.
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Same here! It's just so awesome! For me it's better because it's as if the led were on because of the amoled display.
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What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
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What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
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Jiggle,move it, flip it, etc. It senses movement as well.
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What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
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That's true and simple just wave you hand close to the screen or any movement really turns on active display. The notification doesn't go away until you have gone to the specified app to see what it was
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What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
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just put your hand near it, you don't even have to touch it. The notifications will light up. Unless I am doing it wrong, it would be nice if I could touch that notification icon and swipe and it took me to it.
Here's how I usually operate...my phone is always on my desk or on my couch face up....without me touching it. How can I make it to where if I glance over at it without touching the phone or waving my hand over it where I can see the notification without staring at it? Is there a way to make the notifications on the screen stay on without fading in/out? With the speed it fades in/out, I know I will miss a notification while it's faded out.
just put your hand near it, you don't even have to touch it. The notifications will light up. Unless I am doing it wrong, it would be nice if I could touch that notification icon and swipe and it took me to it.
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You have to touch and hold the notification icon and slide up. That will open whatever application the notification is for.
I just went from note 2 to droid turbo 2. I miss the led light. I am a mom and sometimes I let my 3 years old play game on my phone while I shop. The led light let me know someone is trying to reach me. I can not tell anymore with droid turbo 2 because of no LED light. And, I still haven't found moto display useful. My husband noticed I don't response fast enough since the new phone. The note 2 and turbo 2 are are almost same size so I do not carry my phone in my pocket often because it is uncomfortable and sometimes even fall out of my pocket when I am cleaning, carrying dealing with my kids, so I like to lay it down and look across the room for the LED light. I am severe to profound hearing loss in both ears and wear cochlear implant so when i am not wearing it, i like to see the notifcation across the room.
I am giving my husband the turbo 2 (I could return it but he wants it). I going to get a phone with a led light.
we actually do have an led light near the front facing camera, but i have no idea how to activate it and it doesnt seem to be used by any app. ive seen it come on twice but idk why it came on. it happened while on the charger and it turned green.
Active Display all the way, hate LED lights.
I think you can get the led to work with some combo of light flow and xposed. It also is used by default with RR. I'm torn on which I like. I liked active display on stock, but it doesn't seem to work as well on non stock based ROMs. I've been using the LED, but it doesn't really blink, it just stays on solid when I have a notification.
Is it just me or are notification just broke in MM or the N6 in general? I'm under the impression that the N6 has a Proximity Sensor but unlike it's half brother the Moto X waving your hand over the display doesn't do anything. Is this correct because if not mine doesn't work.
The other thing is it might or might not make a notification sound when notification comes in or it might or might not always light up the display. And if it does it may only flash the lock screen two or three times and then it just stops. Picking up the phone may or may not trigger the screen to light up. It doesn't matter if it is a Gmail, Text or a Calendar reminder. The notifications in MM just seem broken to me at least on the N6. My N7 works properly other then it doesn't have the Ambient Display.
I've reset the phone. I've flashed the stock factory images. I've played with the settings until I think I've turned on and off every switch there is to change. I've been stock, or stock rooted but nothing changes. The notifications are just wonky and my N6.
One last little rant while I'm in the mood. Why doesn't the N6 support 360 degree rotation? Seems silly that my N7 does but that "feature" isn't part of the N6. Come on Google get it together already.
Over all I like everything about this phone and MM in general which is more then I can say for LP when it first landed. But man this notification issue is just driving me nuts.
So is it just me and my phone?
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It won't show notifications if you wave your hand, it will light up when you receive a notification and when you pick up or move your phone though
I usually just use the LED notification but ambient display works every time when I have it enabled.
In your settings area, under sounds/notifications- check your do not disturb settings and make sure those settings are correct for how you want them, when and what makes noise for notifications.
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Is it just me or are notification just broke in MM or the N6 in general? I'm under the impression that the N6 has a Proximity Sensor but unlike it's half brother the Moto X waving your hand over the display doesn't do anything. Is this correct because if not mine doesn't work.
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Does not trigger on proximity. You need to BONK the phone -- it uses a motion sensor.
The other thing is it might or might not make a notification sound when notification comes in or it might or might not always light up the display. And if it does it may only flash the lock screen two or three times and then it just stops. Picking up the phone may or may not trigger the screen to light up. It doesn't matter if it is a Gmail, Text or a Calendar reminder. The notifications in MM just seem broken to me at least on the N6. My N7 works properly other then it doesn't have the Ambient Display.
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There are a few things that can impact it. For instance the proximity sensor will *DISABLE* notification display. The reason for this, is that it indicates that the phone is in your pocket or something. If the screen lights up in your pocket, it enables the touch sensor, and makes it possible for your pocket to push buttons. Two or three times sounds right. That's what its supposed to do, not blink perpetually.
One last little rant while I'm in the mood. Why doesn't the N6 support 360 degree rotation? Seems silly that my N7 does but that "feature" isn't part of the N6. Come on Google get it together already.
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N7 is a tablet. N6 is a phone. Making sure to keep track of "which way is UP" is useful so you don't try to talk into the speaker and listen from the microphone. Consider for a moment, you are browsing a website with the phone upside down, a phone call comes in, HUD notification shows from what visually appears to be the top of the phone, you answer, and put it on your head upside down. Alternatively, if the phone call forces it to right-side-up notification, you end up fumbling around with it trying to right side up it while in the process of hitting the answer button.
Thanks for the replies folks.
I do Bonk the phone to get it to light up and see if there is notifications. It just seems silly to me that I have to touch the phone when it's laying on my desk to see if I've missed a notification of some sort. I really miss the LED notification. Yes I know there is a hack to make the LED work on this phone but it works just as wonky for me. To me notifications are just broke since the only way to know if you missed something is pick up the phone, more or less, and look instead of just giving the phone a glance to see if the LED is blinking and what color it is to tell what type of notification it is. Anyway, now that I know it is supposed to be this way I'll just have to get used to it. I did find some settings under the Do Not Disturb as @DroidFire pointed out where off a bit. Adjusting those has helped so thanks for pointing me to look there.
The point about the N6 being a phone and as such no 360 degree rotation makes sense now that it is pointed out as @doitright has done so well. Thanks for that bit of logic.
fasthair
Just keep in mind that it was a temporary oversight on google's part. The 5x/6p went back to blinking notification lights. It was an interesting, but frustrating idea.
I think that the notification light can fairly easily be made to work reliably, but without blinking. Would end up needing at least part of the OS to be rebuilt. The hacks that you found that are unreliable, are addons rather than component replacements. That's why they are unreliable.
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I've noticed the screen automatically turns itself on and the sensitivity is too low (tuning on to often). It's almost as though all I have to do is walk past, or wave my hand near by to the phone and boom the screen tuns on! I don't really like how sensitive it is.
How do I adjust the sensitivity so it doesn't turn on so easily?
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I've noticed the screen automatically turns itself on and the sensitivity is too low (tuning on to often). It's almost as though all I have to do is walk past, or wave my hand near by to the phone and boom the screen tuns on! I don't really like how sensitive it is.
How do I adjust the sensitivity so it doesn't turn on so easily?
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Check in the moto app, under moto display, i think its called peek display. Thats what causing it if i remember right
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Check in the moto app, under moto display, i think its called peek display. Thats what causing it if i remember right
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excellent thank you that was it!
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excellent thank you that was it!
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Please send Motorola feedback under system and also in the Moto app + play store review to try and get them to add some more options / toggles to Moto peek (Moto display).
Motorola should be ashamed of the current Moto peek it's such a mess. This stupid movement thing you mentioned and the fact it cannot even show the notification content coming in without having to hold the icon down.
It is the worst thing about the phone by far.
To top it off if you disable it you can no longer get notifications on your phone or use double tap to wake.
A third party app called glimpse notifications fixes the notifications coming in but the double tap to wake is not possible to hack back.
You can use a proximity sensor wave app to restore a similar function but it's not as good.