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Android 4.3 [10.4.B.0.569][XZR] - Full Review - Battery Test Added

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Xperia ZR
Android 4.3 Review
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• Sony ChangeLog •
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• Google’s Android 4.3; Jelly Bean as standard – bringing Project Butter performance & UI optimisation and a smoother graphical experience
• Launched with Xperia Z1, we’re now bringing Sony’s Smart Social Camera to these devices – our signature camera experience, that lets you download, access and enjoy “Xperia camera apps” directly from within the viewfinder
• We’re also uplifting Sony’s entire native app portfolio to the latest versions – bringing tweaked / improved / current experiences for (to name but a few): Messaging, MyXperia, Smart Connect, Small apps, TrackID, Sony Select and…
• Sony’s Media apps: WALKMAN, Album and Movies, with Sony Entertainment Network cloud service integration* – a more converged and full Sony entertainment experience – Sony Entertainment Network & PlayMemories integration with a more intuitive UI, offering seamless access to both local and cloud content
• The launch of our unique custom interface experience: “Xperia Themes”, with downloadable UI packs from Sony Select – more on this soon…
• The latest Android security enhancements, matched with Sony’s mobile enterprise solution: Xperia in Business
• Battery STAMINA Mode – updated version of Sony’s power management app, now withrefreshed interface and more smart options for prolonging battery life
• Increased user control for Xperia Tablet Z, with “Restricted Profiles”; option to createisolated, secure spaces with individual local storage, home screens, widgets and settings
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• Some Screenshots •
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• The new update brings the Honami UI (Like the Xperia Z1) ,Faster ,Smoother and cool !
• New Themes including the ability to download new themes via Sony Select
• Contacts ,Phone ,Messaging
Phone : No Blue LED color during calls after update
when you lock the screen and phone rings , the "Reply with message" is half covered with the navigation bar (Hope it'll be fixed soon)
• Clock ,Calendar and Calculator
• Settings app
it lacks the X-Reality only the Bravia Engine 2
• Finaly ,the Camera
It came with the Xperia Z1 Camera app style ,but it lacks many modes like (Info Eye ,Timeshift mode ,Social Cast mode)
but you can still download some modes via Sony Select (like AR effects ,Motion Shot ,Motiongraph ,, hope that Sony bring the missing modes to our XZR)
• Benchmarks •
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Screenshots by @janito24
Original Thread
• Battery Life Test •
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-These tests depends on my own usage ,so it may differ depends on everyone's usage-
• Average Usage •
it lasts for 1 Day and 13 Hours with average usage
~4:30 Hrs Talk Time
~23 Hrs Wi-Fi On
~3 Hrs Screen On (Chatting ,Browsing and downloading)
• Heavy Usage •
it lasts for 10 Hours with continuous heavy usage on medium brightness with the auto enabled
~5 Hrs Screen On (Chatting and Browsing)
~8 Hrs Wi-Fi On (using it even when the screen is off)
~2 Hrs Talk Time
• Bugs/Annoyances •
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• 500 Millisecond delay between each shot using 9+ Megapixel
• When launching Camera via shutter button ,it plays a start up sound and no option to disable it
• Burst Mode is slower than the previous 4.2.2 (due to the lack of resolution option for the burst mode)
• When installing APK , the title of the app is in a wrong alignment - Screenshot
• Final Words •
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The 4.2.2 is a little stable than the newer one (till now)
but still the 4.3 Update is Recommended !
it brings a lot of new settings with the newest Sony Interface ,and i hope that Sony brings a fix for those annoying things in 4.3
but after all.. it's GREAT !​

Thanks for the great review!!
Just want to add my view on the camera after a quick test. Regarding the resolution change, it is still available, but only under the "Manual" mode and any change only applies to the Manual mode too. IMO I really don't like the new updated camera, the Superior auto mode just seems less superior to me.
By default, it uses 9M (16:9) resolution. For my usage, I always save images to external SD card, With resolution set at 9M, there is little over half second delay (even the screen freezes up) before you can take the next shot. If change to 5M in manual mode, there is virtually no delay at all. I tried to switch saving to internal memory and it's not any better either. Compare to the previous 2.67 rom, even during saving picture taken at 9M resolution, the screen does not freeze up and you can still take the next shot right away.
For all the test shots I took, I find Manual mode works better in most cases compared to Auto. One example is when I try focus on a roof through a window, the manual mode (without any scene selection, no HDR) will take a perfectly focused picture (little under exposed due to the lighting). The Superior Auto however, extremely difficult to get a good focus the roof, instead it will focus on the window screen most of the time. I tried to touch different spot and result is more or less the same.
Above are just what I found based on my setting and maybe works better for others. I sure do hope they can come up with a patch to fix some of the small bugs. Oh forgot to mention, when launch the camera using the shutter button, it plays a start up sound just like how typical Sony camera does when turn on the power. I can't find a setting to turn it off.

Any camera improvement with the new software?

another bug thats bother me little,
when opening apk file to install,
the title of the app is in the wrong alignment.
Sent from my C5503 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

renz0kuken said:
another bug thats bother me little,
when opening apk file to install,
the title of the app is in the wrong alignment.
Sent from my C5503 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Yes I can confirm this as well. Also to the OP, during the incoming call, mine "message to reject" is showing up just fine, I don't have the black menu/nav bar showing at the bottom.

Anyone else having Android OS bettry drain ?
it's using 42% of the battery while the screen is at 12 ?!
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Anyone else having Android OS bettry drain ?
it's using 42% of the battery while the screen is at 12 ?!

I read somewhere that battery should be better with 4.3 update, because it is on Z1 significally improved...
Whats your battery life now, some screenshots ?

does this fix bluetooth probemls

prafulxperia said:
does this fix bluetooth probemls
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My Bluetooth working fine in 4.3, even when i'm use 67 fw (JB 4.2.2), i don't have any bluetooth issue
Sent from my C5503 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

prafulxperia said:
does this fix bluetooth probemls
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What problem was faced by you?

I've only had my ZR for a week, but I also see the BT problem.
The ZR pairs & connects to my car's hands-free set, but on incoming calls the phone behaves as if it is not connected - the phone rings itself and no audio come through the BT set.
It's definitely connected because if you hit the "Answer call" button on the BT set, it starts the voice-dialing system (which is what would happen if you were not trying to answer a call).
There's several threads on the Sony forums about this,
Sorry - I'm not allowed to paste a link as I don't have enough posts here yet.

silvscorp said:
Thanks for the great review!!
Just want to add my view on the camera after a quick test......
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Thanks bro for your review , i confirm everything you said about the camera ,i tested it myself and yeah you're right
OP updated
renz0kuken said:
when opening apk file to install,
the title of the app is in the wrong alignment.
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Confirmed ,Added to OP
Thanks bro
silvscorp said:
Yes I can confirm this as well. Also to the OP, during the incoming call, mine "message to reject" is showing up just fine, I don't have the black menu/nav bar showing at the bottom.
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Hmm.. i want you to test it again while your phone is locked ,and rings
cuz i just make a "Factory Reset" ,and it still exits
samylyes2304 said:
Anyone else having Android OS bettry drain ?
it's using 42% of the battery while the screen is at 12 ?!
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NestorC said:
I read somewhere that battery should be better with 4.3 update, because it is on Z1 significally improved...
Whats your battery life now, some screenshots ?
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Actually guys i'm a Heavy usage user (Wifi most of the time ,chatting ,browsing ,listening to music , screen on for a long time in the day) , although it completes a day with me (for me this is much better than my previous devices) ,so if any user can post some screenshots about the battery usage for the 4.3 update ,will be much appreciated

DoO37 said:
Hmm.. i want you to test it again while your phone is locked ,and rings
cuz i just make a "Factory Reset" ,and it still exits
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Just tried couple of times with phone screen off and the icon still shows up normal. I still don't see that black bar at the bottom like the screen shot you posted.
I did the update via PC companion and it's a US customized version not sure if this is any different. Also, I don't have any gesture or pin lock for the phone. just simple swipe up and down unlock. You can try remove those lock as there might be a glitch caused by those interface?

Sony Select App is not working...It's having a bug after upgrading to 4.3....

Othaaxxx said:
Sony Select App is not working...It's having a bug after upgrading to 4.3....
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server is down not a bug.. its down from 22nd

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john_cena163 said:
server is down not a bug.. its down from 22nd
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Actually Sony select app is working flawlessly in 4.2.2 but it ain't in 4.3...Does it use different servers for different versions for android?

silvscorp said:
Just tried couple of times with phone screen off and the icon still shows up normal. I still don't see that black bar at the bottom like the screen shot you posted.
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Actually i did the same and also i'm not using any lock-screen mode ,only the swipe and the problem isn't permanent ,it sometimes show up and sometimes not :/ ,,maybe i'll re-install the 4.3 software via Sony PC Companion
Othaaxxx said:
Sony Select App is not working...It's having a bug after upgrading to 4.3....
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john_cena163 said:
server is down not a bug.. its down from 22nd
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Yes guys i believe that there is a problem with the server for 4.3 ,Cuz i used "Sony Select" app directly after the update and i've downloaded 2 camera modes (check Screenshots) and also browse some Xperia themes through it ,,and now it's not working..
so it's just matter of time i'm sure
Screenshots : 1 , 2

anyway i managed to download both themes & all cam apps from playstore ,except timeshift wich is not workn

I just updated using the companion software (in the US). So far everything works as expected but hate hate HATE the new white themed UI. Also Sony Select is not working for me either
Sent from my C5502 using Tapatalk 2

john_cena163 said:
anyway i managed to download both themes & all cam apps from playstore ,except timeshift wich is not workn
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Where did you find info-eye? I couldn't find it in play store.

Android 4.4.2 [10.5.A.0.230][XZR] - Full Review !

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Xperia ZR
Android 4.4.2 Review
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• Sony ChangeLog •
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• We’ve been building new Sony experiences on Google’s KitKat release to create some neat / sweet features (if we say so ourselves) – in addition to a few performance tweaks here & there, some of the functionality you can look forward to includes:
• Google’s Android 4.4; KitKat as standard – bringing improved performance & user interface (UI) optimisation…
If you’ve got a Sony PlayStation 4, you might recognize our new user interface – we’ve added the same sleek launch animation and live wallpaper across the lock and home screens. You’ll also spot a revamped Status Bar and Quick Settings… now more intuitive and customisable (also with a fresh new look)… cleaned up to ensure you only get the notifications you really need
• As you might expect, we’re also uplifting Sony’s entire native app portfolio to the latest versions bringing tweaked / improved / current experiences for one and all… some of our favourites look like:
• Messaging – a few UI adjustments here & there, including a slicker “send” animation, and deeper Emoji support for some expressive fun… also worth noting, you’ll find smileys wherever there’s an app with a keyboard
• Email – you’ll be able to both load and see more mails… but don’t fret, navigation of said load is easier with a more responsive viewing pane – split screen modes divide info for easy digest… especially useful / works a treat on Xperia Tablet Z
• Smart Social Camera – our social imaging experience makes its debut on our first Z Series devices; a selection of Xperia Camera apps directly accessible from your viewfinder… including personal favourite “Creative Effect”, and more for download to boot!
• Battery STAMINA Mode - level-upping our unique power management feature, bringing smarter data management & more for prolonging your juice
• Sony’s Media apps: WALKMAN, Album and Movies, with Sony Entertainment Network cloud service integration* – a more converged and full Sony entertainment experience – Sony Entertainment Network & PlayMemories integration with a more intuitive UI, better download speeds, and more…
• And proving pretty popular, now totaling over 2 million downloads (!) – our unique custom interface experience: “Xperia Themes”, with downloadable UI packs from Sony Select – skin up to 280 assets across your Xperia smartphone with a variety of styles…
• Compatibility with our SmartWear Experience; SmartBand SWR10 and Lifelog app – enabling you to record social, physical and entertainment activities and have them all visualised in a beautiful interface… reminisce at that past, make the best of the present and plan for the future
Source
• User Interface •
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• The Kitkat update brings the Xperia Z2 UI (Sirus UI), Gradient Statusbar & NavigationBar, Live Wallpaper, New Lockscreen effect and much more..
Note : In Screenshots I'd changed the NavigationBar icons using Xposed Framework, So the stock one is just the default Xperia
• The Gradient Translucent Bars gives you great Fullscreen Experience
• Totally New Notification Drawer with 2 Taps style
• A little enhanced Call Screen with new After-Call Screen
• New Features Added like Printing, managing Notifications, Changing StatusBar Icons
• Camera, it just brings the new Creative effects which replaces Perfect effects
Sony said that the camera had improved a lot in 4.4, but for me i feel like it's the same as 4.3
Still 4.1 & 4.2 was faster in taking pics
• New emojis integrated in the Smileys button in the new Xperia Keyboard, You can use them in contact names, Notes..etc
• Immersive Fullscreen Mode (which hides the StatusBar & the NavigationBar to feel the real Fullscreen experience)
To enable Immersive mode in apps that don't support see below in the "Annoyances"
• Sony New Media Apps.. they are not included in the update, but we should receive an OTA update for these apps in this week
i already received the New Album (will be reviewed when all got the update)
• No What's New app found !
• No "Clear Apps" in Recent Apps menu !
• Benchmarks •
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I used Antutu & Quadrant Benchmarks..
I got 21K Score in Antutu
• Battery Life Test •
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Hard Use Battery Test
It lasts for ~12h Hard Usage
~11h Both WiFi and Data enabled
5h+ Screen on
~1h Voice Calls
Another Hard Battery Usage by @nbrian2012
Lite Battery Usage Test
Lasts for 2 days, 7 Hours !!
Thanks to @BobLC
• Bugs/Annoyances •
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• Scroll Lagging in Settings App & Notification Drawer
FIX : go to Settings>About, and tab on the "Build Number" 5 times to enable Developer Options
Then go to Settings>Developer Options, Enable "Force GPU rendering"
• WiFi appears to be always on even when i switch it off
FIX : go to Settings>Wi-Fi>Advanced, Disable "Scanning always available"
• Google Play Services is draining ~50% of Battery
FIXED : Just install the latest Google Play Services update, and the issue will be solved permanently
• Can't move/delete anything from the external SD Card using third party file managers
FIX requires root : Install Xposed Framework, and install module called "Handle External Storage"
• Immersive Mode is not working in all apps
FIX requires root : Install Xposed Framework, and install module called "Force Immersive Mode"
• Keyboard lagging - Needs Confirmation
It happens because of an update for "Xperia Keyboard"
Fix/Workaround : Uninstall updates for Xperia Keyboard, just stay with the factory one until next fixed update to be released
• Conclusion •
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Sony is really doing a great job not only the User Interface, but also in the user experience and Media Apps..
Of course a lot better than other Manufactures that only update the android version and nothing more !
When comparing from Sony Xperia FW JB 4.1 to 4.2 to 4.3 and now to 4.4
you'll see the big improvement between them..
I believe that the previous 4.1/4.2 firmwares were more stable/faster (not smoother) ,but still the new updates are recommended !
In this particular time, i think that Sony will focus on fixing all the bugs in the 4.4 Kitkat, since it's the latest Google Android version.
I hope that we'll receive a bug fix update in the next month
Thanks Sony for supporting our device
​

Credits
Big Thanks to @Thibou and @sijav for the Pre-rooted ROMs
Thanks guys for supporting our lovely ZR
Pre-rooted ROMs here : Thinou's Thread & Sijav's Thread
Say Thanks to them guys, they are doing a great work for our device
And of course Thanks to Sony for the update, we got it in May like it said, No Delays !

I confirm the Lag of the keyboard
Use Swiftkey instead
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http://d-h.st/htw#.U4kUNfmSyJo Updated Walkman app
http://d-h.st/mJI#.U4kUY_mSyJo Updated Movies app

no noticble keyboard lag here, unless you guys type REALLY fast...
all seems to be working well, clean install on c5502 using the prerooted tw version posted here.
thanks for review

Some Battery Stats
My Little Battery Test (Still waiting for your's @DoO37
A general look on the battery
Playing Asphalt Now All Test will test how 10% of battery would perform
Youtube On 3G I don't have 4G
Watching Monster's University
While watching I felt many wakelocks as if the movies app is forcing the mobile to stay away which causes a 0,1 second lag after an interval of 10 minutes even Wakelock takes more power than the Movies app

Rocks
Thanks for the review.
There is no lag here folks. Everybod is dissing the new FW on forums, but it is not bad at all.
Our phone should be able to handle this and it actually does a great job!!!
I use Swype and completely uninstall any other keyboards but all keyboards lag if you type damn quick.
For card-write permissions, is Xposed Framework the solution, guys?? (like recommended here)

moolash said:
Thanks for the review.
There is no lag here folks. Everybod is dissing the new FW on forums, but it is not bad at all.
Our phone should be able to handle this and it actually does a great job!!!
I use Swype and completely uninstall any other keyboards but all keyboards lag if you type damn quick.
For card-write permissions, is Xposed Framework the solution, guys?? (like recommended here)
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I myself use this as it is use once and forget

shteren said:
no noticble keyboard lag here, unless you guys type REALLY fast...
all seems to be working well, clean install on c5502 using the prerooted tw version posted here.
thanks for review
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have you tried switching between Alphabets and numbers ?, if so had you encountered any lags/delays ?!
just try to tab it 5 times quickly
moolash said:
Thanks for the review.
There is no lag here folks. Everybod is dissing the new FW on forums, but it is not bad at all.
Our phone should be able to handle this and it actually does a great job!!!
I use Swype and completely uninstall any other keyboards but all keyboards lag if you type damn quick.
For card-write permissions, is Xposed Framework the solution, guys?? (like recommended here)
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Yes, Storage Handle Module is a great solution.. it works more than better
I will search for this keyboard lag error and see if it only happening to me
@John98Zakaria Thanks bro for your battery review :good:
strange news here, for me the battery life is Impressive !, even better than 4.3

@DoO37
My battery has been always unlucky
I never knew why

John98Zakaria said:
@DoO37
My battery has been always unlucky
I never knew why
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That's weird
but i think this is because you're a gamer, aren't you ?!
Games are the most battery draining, my battery reviews only focuses on normal usage like chatting, browsing, calling..etc
But when i play "Clash of Clans" for 10-15 mins, the battery drops 5-7 %

Oh thank goodness I though my battery was defective
Although I didn't buy a quad-core phone to use it for calls

John98Zakaria said:
Oh thank goodness I though my battery was defective
Although I didn't buy a quad-core phone to use it for calls
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Yes, you're right, but any battery test only focuses on the normal usage for the device, and also when i play a game i feel that the battery in a bit better that 4.3

Ehm, About gaming actually you can't feel it better it's a physiological feeling as it is full screen but actually now your mobile renders 120X720 while in 4.3 the on screen buttons decrease the resolution that was rendered
I made a Picture Test and found that night photography has been improved alot
Now the green noise is very little and un-noticed
Will post photos later

thanks for your review. some agree with you.
but, i don't find lag with keyboard, bcause i type slow, hehe.
cant write on sd, but foldermount fix it...
media apps, yes they are not updated with the last version.
really love with the full screen..

John98Zakaria said:
Ehm, About gaming actually you can't feel it better it's a physiological feeling as it is full screen but actually now your mobile renders 120X720 while in 4.3 the on screen buttons decrease the resolution that was rendered
I made a Picture Test and found that night photography has been improved alot
Now the green noise is very little and un-noticed
Will post photos later
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si josh said:
thanks for your review. some agree with you.
but, i don't find lag with keyboard, bcause i type slow, hehe.
cant write on sd, but foldermount fix it...
media apps, yes they are not updated with the last version.
really love with the full screen..
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Yes guys, the immersive mode is really helpful,
 @John98Zakaria do you have some Pics Before and After the update to compare camera quality ?

this battery is not going to turn off!!
GPS was on all the time, just disabled G+. had lots of msgs and more than 6 hours of phone calls (Only on 2G). battery stamina was on all the time, didn't touched wifi but it looks like it going to turn off when I leave the house (location based wifi), had more than one hours of playing traffic racer

Need guidence.
I have copy paste Google Dialer in system/priv-app and set permission of rw-r-r.
But it is now working.
I want to remove it.
May I just delete it?? will it affect system performance?? or any other method?

As long as you have your stock dialer there it's OK otherwise do not

sijav said:
this battery is not going to turn off!!
GPS was on all the time, just disabled G+. had lots of msgs and more than 6 hours of phone calls (Only on 2G). battery stamina was on all the time, didn't touched wifi but it looks like it going to turn off when I leave the house (location based wifi), had more than one hours of playing traffic racer
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How much time you got "Screen On" ?!
and if you are facing WiFi always on even if you turn it off.. just disable "Scanning always available" from Settings>Wi-Fi>Advanced

DoO37 said:
How much time you got "Screen On" ?!
and if you are facing WiFi always on even if you turn it off.. just disable "Scanning always available" from Settings>Wi-Fi>Advanced
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I didn't had wifi always on, it even turned off when I leave home, university or work.
and don't remember how much time but let's say 4-6 hours in 2 days for massaging.

EMUI 9 - aggressive memory management

OK, the big difference for me between emui 8 and 9 is that on 9 after a few mins the task switcher shows you have less than 1 gig of free ram and from that point whenever you switch between tasks it's clear that it's killed the task you're switching to and freed the memory so it's loading it again from scratch. For every task.
Googling for help here pulls up a lot of legacy results about `protecting` apps but this is no longer in the settings. Maybe on emu 4 or something it was a possibility. There is something in emui 9 about "manage all automatically" in the app launch option in the battery settings but this already has all apps set to "run in background" and changing them to manually managed and keeping the settings the same obviously makes no difference.
I'm not sure what the padlock item means on the apps in the task switcher - you can toggle it by swiping down - but that doesn't make any difference either.
Clicking the trash can on the task switcher only frees up a few hundred megs of the 4gigs of ram in my phone so perhaps there's a memory leak somewhere? Seems a bit unlikely but then again it would explain why this phone essentially now has multi-tasking disabled.

Yes I've been facing the same problem of aggressive ram management on emui 9. Infact sometimes it even kills apps like Spotify when it's playing music in the background. Haven't found any workaround to it either. I'm hoping the stable pie build will fix it.

FaizanAliZia said:
Yes I've been facing the same problem of aggressive ram management on emui 9. Infact sometimes it even kills apps like Spotify when it's playing music in the background. Haven't found any workaround to it either. I'm hoping the stable pie build will fix it.
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I'm on stable pie.

FaizanAliZia said:
Yes I've been facing the same problem of aggressive ram management on emui 9. Infact sometimes it even kills apps like Spotify when it's playing music in the background. Haven't found any workaround to it either. I'm hoping the stable pie build will fix it.
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We have this on emui 8 also. Google Play music stops after 3-4 songs and had to turn on screen again.

_a! said:
I'm on stable pie.
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Did it help solve the ram management issues? And other bugs from the beta?
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The_0N3 said:
We have this on emui 8 also. Google Play music stops after 3-4 songs and had to turn on screen again.
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No this kept happening to me WHILE I'm using the phone but just in another app. That never happened to me on oreo.

FaizanAliZia said:
Did it help solve the ram management issues? And other bugs from the beta?.
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Did what help?

Same problem is with Oreo as well.
Most of apps reload when launch them from recent apps.
Even youtube also reloads that too playing video if i switch to some another app. Memory is less than 1Gb available most of the times.

My wife is also facing this problem with her Honor 10 (COL-L29). So it's safe to say that the problem is within EMUI 8/9. She didn't have this issue with her Honor 8. Wonder if there's any open bug/issue at Honor/Huawei development team.

Have you added apps to the "ignore battery optimization"? I also lock apps that I want to run in the background too for faster load times.... Works perfectly for me
I'm on the official Emui 8.2
For ignore battery optimization options follow this path
Settings, apps and notifications, apps, then choose the icon at the bottom "settings", special access, ignore battery optimization.
Change the tab to all apps and then click an app and add to ignore battery optimization.
Let me know how it goes especially on Emui v9.

justwondering said:
Have you added apps to the "ignore battery optimization"? I also lock apps that I want to run in the background too for faster load times.... Works perfectly for me
I'm on the official Emui 8.2
For ignore battery optimization options follow this path
Settings, apps and notifications, apps, then choose the icon at the bottom "settings", special access, ignore battery optimization.
Change the tab to all apps and then click an app and add to ignore battery optimization.
Let me know how it goes especially on Emui v9.
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Yes, I found this setting yesterday. I've set it, and i've temporarily stopped using nova launcher. So far the problem doesn't seem to have reoccured, although oddly just not i enabled chrome (i use firefox but am having problems with 1 site) and during enabling, updating, and using chrome the music stopped playing several times. Available ram remained over 1 gig though so i'm not sure what to think.

justwondering said:
Have you added apps to the "ignore battery optimization"? I also lock apps that I want to run in the background too for faster load times.... Works perfectly for me
I'm on the official Emui 8.2
For ignore battery optimization options follow this path
Settings, apps and notifications, apps, then choose the icon at the bottom "settings", special access, ignore battery optimization.
Change the tab to all apps and then click an app and add to ignore battery optimization.
Let me know how it goes especially on Emui v9.
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Unless it's completely different on EMUI 9 (when compared to EMUI 8) this must be how my wife is configuring her apps. And yes, this does not work (didn't work on EMUI 8.1 either).
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

ademarizu said:
Unless it's completely different on EMUI 9 (when compared to EMUI 8) this must be how my wife is configuring her apps. And yes, this does not work (didn't work on EMUI 8.1 either).
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Very odd, works perfectly for me and did so on 8.1 too.. Hmmmm

justwondering said:
Very odd, works perfectly for me and did so on 8.1 too.. Hmmmm
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Could you please try do this test?
1 - Open a game, play a bit.
2 - Open the camera app (with AI option on by default).
3 - Switch to game to make sure it is at the same point as before.
4 - Switch back to camera app and take a picture.
5 - Switch bake to game and see if it's still at same point.
On my wife's phone, whenever she hits step 5, the game relaunches. That's pretty annoying if you're playing something that takes long to fully launches (like Pokemon GO).

after updating my honor play to emui 9 i noticed that the video stabilization feature is missing from the video settings of the camera. has anyone experienced this? it was there before the emui9, you can toggle the stabilization on/off but now it's missing.

Same issue, different phone, could be an android 9 issue, oddly enough it is also running November security patch.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...-memory-management-issue-in-the-coming-weeks/

justwondering said:
Same issue, different phone, could be an android 9 issue, oddly enough it is also running November security patch.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...-memory-management-issue-in-the-coming-weeks/
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Yeah, I've seen that, but since it's a Pie only issue, don't think is the same... Like I said, my wife is experiencing that aggressive ram management since Oreo. But let's hope this bring the issue some visibility and acknowledgement and, let's pray, a solution.

ademarizu said:
Yeah, I've seen that, but since it's a Pie only issue, don't think is the same... Like I said, my wife is experiencing that aggressive ram management since Oreo. But let's hope this bring the issue some visibility and acknowledgement and, let's pray, a solution.
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You had any luck sorting this out?
I have owned an Honor Play for about two weeks now and this issue is really annoying me. I will change my phone if it isn't fixed soon.
I did turn down the resolution from 2340 x 1080 (FHD+) to 1560 x 720 (HD+) and it seems as though it has freed up some RAM. Although I don't really want to look at my phone in 720p.
I guess this serves me right for thinking a £200 phone would be similar to a 2017 flagship.

gazeth said:
You had any luck sorting this out?
I have owned an Honor Play for about two weeks now and this issue is really annoying me. I will change my phone if it isn't fixed soon.
I did turn down the resolution from 2340 x 1080 (FHD+) to 1560 x 720 (HD+) and it seems as though it has freed up some RAM. Although I don't really want to look at my phone in 720p.
I guess this serves me right for thinking a £200 phone would be similar to a 2017 flagship.
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Wait, if you lower the screen resolution, can you run 3rd party apps and take pictures without having them killed? I really didn't try that, but I don't think my wife will like this "solution".

Nah didn't work. Selling this damn phone haha!

ademarizu said:
Wait, if you lower the screen resolution, can you run 3rd party apps and take pictures without having them killed? I really didn't try that, but I don't think my wife will like this "solution".
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gazeth said:
Nah didn't work. Selling this damn phone haha!
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Since my phone updated to android pie, memory issues, definitely some kind of memory leak over a fairly short period of time between 12 / 24 hours, phone gradually has less and less ram, wish I could just roll it back to Android 8

PIE update - Mate 10 Pro - LIST OF PROBLEMS / ISSUE'S

Like the Subject title reads, can we start a list of all the known errors discovered in the Android Pie update, for the Mate 10 series phones?
:highfive:This will be a great thread to see if it is worth upgrading to Pie, for us still stuck on Oreo.

I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.

bla33 said:
I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.
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Apparantly the new Gallery App is also not that great:
"The new photo gallery is a crap ,, whats the point of creating a new allbum called all photos ??
I miss the old one ,,,
And the worst thing is the new signal bars on the left with notifications !! What the heck is huawei thinking ?? We don't have a notch ,, this new emui is bs update"

As mentioned, Nova also buggy:
"So far, nova launcher is buggy, especially animations, and the previously working google cam port stopped working"
&
"Nova working fine here with the exception of recents and gestures. "

And also uses more RAM than on EMUI 8 / Oreo:
"EMUI 9 is soooo ram hungry. Dropping below a gig here from light use and everything is refreshing. "

Well dont know about ram. Its same for me as before
atm while doing nothing its sitting at 3gb just like in oreo.

Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.

dzmrdz said:
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that

dzmrdz said:
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.

bla33 said:
lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that
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No it's not just you
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ante0 said:
Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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Maybe that's the reason, I hope that they will fix it soon :fingers-crossed:

I think in oreo there was like 1 second delay when pressing on screen and then trying to press navbar. it woudnt allow you to do that right away.

I'm getting the strong impression the Pie update, for the Mate 10 series, needs some more fine tuning. Maybe, with some updates it'll get better.
Let's get those bugs listed guys! :highfive:

Don't see a difference with the "super macro" mode in new camera software

MATE 10. The recent apps screen is ****, if you hit the one app that's halfway hidden on the side you just get dumped back to where you were without opening that app.
The camera app in my mate 10 eats up literally 600MB of RAM wtf? Also RAM usage in general is higher almost than EMUI 8 on the Mate 10, where I had 2.2GB free most of the timein 8.0, now the usual is 1.8GB, so that's 400MB more of RAM used for EMUI 9.

ante0 said:
Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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Yup, I also had this problem - it does bug me, typing a message and kept clicking home. I changed the nav bar to be hidden and use gestures now (swipe up for home, swipe left / right for back, swipe up and hold for task manager). This works for me!
Couple of other things I've noticed - takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
Ran a AnTuTu benchmark - previously it was around 200,000 - its now reporting about 160,000 but apart from the gmail delay (above) the phone still feels snappy! I then saw the performance setting (under battery) and switched this on to re-benchmark - got around 210,000 this time.
I've switched performance mode back off for now.

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takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
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It should have been obvious I guess! When I switch the performance mode on clearing these notifications is much quicker - this is the only thing I have really noticed in terms of speed with / without performance mode in the first couple of days.

Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?

Gremio1903 said:
Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?
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Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.

No more force LTE Only option, although you have tweak it before the update using System Editor. Hmmm...

domy_os said:
Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.
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Somehow the files from their site dont work.
I downloaded from alternative site and it worked w/o issues.

General My conclusions about X3 Pro and ColorOS (comparison to OxygenOS)

So basically I wanted to compare ColorOS and X3 Pro to my old OnePlus 6T with OxygenOS. I was convinced that since OnePlus and Oppo are almost the same company (at least holding) so the quality of the software should be similar. Moreover OnePlus phones in China are released now with ColorOS instead of HydrogenOS/OxygenOS.
I bought this phone cause it is super cheap in Thailand - around 750 EUR/920 USD.
Quick summary:
- no pocket mode, you can accidently pickup unwanted call while taking phone out of your pocket
- directories have app icons on the top which is hard to reach with your thumb (in oxygen on the bottom)
- microscope (cannot see the reason to use it)
- gorilla glass 5 (my OP 6T...2.5yrs old phone has gorilla glass 6)
- speakers sound quality in vertical position is only slightly better than on OP 6T. In horizontal you can hear the "stereo".
- camera/photo quality is inconsistent
Bugs
- inconsistent app search functions in Settings. When you go to the app list you can search easily for the app by typing lowercase or uppercase. When you go to other two places for battery optimization you have to type exactly the app name as it is (if it starts with uppercase you have to use uppercase)
- battery draining (processes are kept in the memory for hours, eg. Netflix was in the background for over 18hrs)
- font sizes are inconsistent between apps, eg. if you set small font size in the Settings, then whatsapp font size matches system setting but font in Messenger is much bigger.
- notifications are not that loud compared to OP6T (screen off)
So basically software on my old OP 6T was better.
I know that all of the bugs can be fixed with the software update but still I feel some disappointment.

And what about the pros ?

Pros:
-screen quality
-120 Hz (but in my case its fixed...not adaptive or I dont know where to turn it on)
- build quality
- its snappier than OP6T
- fully customizable Always On Display
- quick toolbar on the screen (this is a great feature)
- international warranty
- price (in Thailand 750 EUR/920 USD)

I've come to the Find X3 Pro from an OP8 Pro *purely* because I was so fed up with the lack of quality in OxygenOS!
I've not noticed any of the CONS you've listed - the only issue I have being an AndroidAuto one (which I think is actually a background process bug - I'm testing it), but here's my list of PROS
PRO
- much better customisability of the OS, drawer & general experience
- far better implementation of navigation gestures
- proper dark mode and AOD - OxygenOS still hasn't got this right
- camera app is just as good as OP - cameras actually work (unlike the OP8Pro "seethtru" cam debacle)
- far less hacking needed with ADB to get the interface working well
- battery is *much* better than OP 8 Pro

coming from an 1+7t pro that i did like buy dicthed cause of the "poor" update policy (not to mention that the Android 11 update is not only WAY to late but WAY to buggy) , i have only very positive feedback for the Find x3 pro...
the only minus point would be the lack of ColorOS support for non Indian customers/members.. but there is always XDA forums for this

@stuclark @Thorgoth can u guys check for example messenger/facebook/whatsapp summaries in the Battery settings? - i mean the background time.
Can u check in addition if for example gmail, messenger, skype, facebook are as locked apps? You can easily see it in the recent apps list as a "lock" icon above the app/window preview. In my case they were locked by default...which should not happen.

I only have WhatsApp, cost me 1,27% yesterday.
Locked apps:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Some were showing up as locked for me; inlcuding a couple which were most definitely *NOT* part of the base firmware, so I suspect it's the applications being naughty and making the setting themselves
I can turn off all my locked apps though, if that's the concern.

stuclark said:
Some were showing up as locked for me; inlcuding a couple which were most definitely *NOT* part of the base firmware, so I suspect it's the applications being naughty and making the setting themselves
I can turn off all my locked apps though, if that's the concern.
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It could also be possible that ColorOS analyzes the apps and usage and tries to be smart.

I have an oneplus 8 pro and installed coloros on it (Official first beta).
Pros:
- more customizations
- Better batterylife
- Nice AOD
- Dark mode better
Both:
- smooth
- camera app same
Cons:
- AOD wake with one tap missing
- Chinese version with Chinese apps and not all languages
- some Bugs (see in the post in OnePlus 8 pro forum)
- often you need to give the apps the permission in notifications, because the system deactivate much of them
But for the first build very good.

Actually if you compare your OnePlus 6T with the OnePlus 9 Pro, you also get Gorilla 5 instead of 6.
I also live in Thailand and considering the prices of late, I honestly do not see the reason to buy OnePlus phones anymore. They basically are OPPO phones with different designs and inferior camera system. Yes, even with the Hasselblad mumbo-jumbo.
The microscopic camera has been one of the gimmick that I actually don't get tired of using. It allowed me to see things I wouldn't normally see, but yeah, that could just be me.

@SuperToMMo im not saying its a bad phone...but it has some issues, even for the price in Thailand which is crazy low comparing to 1150€ in Europe.
Overheating is one...
Battery draining is second one....
Notifications not showing/dissappearing from lock screen..third one.
+ Many others not that serious for me
To be honest this is my first oppo phone and I bought it because I saw it price and I knew that it should be the same as "oneplus".
Flagships from oneplus get software updates and bug fixes super quick and many times within first 2-3 months after the phone is released to the market.
Here...I got one update since my purchase...still many bugs to be fixed - so lets see how the support will look like here.
Not giving final judgement here yet...too soon, lets see.

Overheating and battery draining is mostly caused by some process using up that precious battery.
I have zero issues with overheating. Battery is more than ok.
I had some issues with some notifications not showing on the notification bar, but that had to be configured right. Never had an issue since.
btw, I don't know if there is much difference between the Chinese and International version.

latino147 said:
Overheating and battery draining is mostly caused by some process using up that precious battery.
I have zero issues with overheating. Battery is more than ok.
I had some issues with some notifications not showing on the notification bar, but that had to be configured right. Never had an issue since.
btw, I don't know if there is much difference between the Chinese and International version.
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I have the same set of applications as on my oneplus 6t.
Never had an issue with op6t with overheating and battery drain. I noticed that software on Oppo keeps all the apps in background for many hrs. For example: I watched 20 min netflix and the process was kept in backround for 18hrs - same thing with other applications.
After 2.5years my op6t had SOT around 4-4.5hr...on Oppo with the same daily usage I get 5-5.5hrs (FHD only)
I have international version.

maxellxl said:
@SuperToMMo im not saying its a bad phone...but it has some issues, even for the price in Thailand which is crazy low comparing to 1150€ in Europe.
Overheating is one...
Battery draining is second one....
Notifications not showing/dissappearing from lock screen..third one.
+ Many others not that serious for me
To be honest this is my first oppo phone and I bought it because I saw it price and I knew that it should be the same as "oneplus".
Flagships from oneplus get software updates and bug fixes super quick and many times within first 2-3 months after the phone is released to the market.
Here...I got one update since my purchase...still many bugs to be fixed - so lets see how the support will look like here.
Not giving final judgement here yet...too soon, lets see.
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TBH I think everyone's use case is a bit different, and also toleration for certain quirks depends on individuals.
It's fair to say that I'm a very light user and especially since Androids have been relegated to my secondary phones now. You know, the thing about LINE app back up not being easily moved from one OS to another, I switched once and I cannot go back.
Having said that, I review phones so I do get to test a lot of them and I try hard to drive them as much as I can. I still keep my Pixel 4XL and may have a chance to use it more for photo starting next month. Still very capable cameras and Google Photo back up is still gonna be "free". The one thing I do appreciate nowadays is how close most Android skins are to the Android experience I would get on my Pixel. I can't argue that Oxygen OS is still very good at that and maybe even the snappiest in the Market.
But it's not rid of bugs, as in quite a lot of them, over the few previous generations. Once I get to use them for a while, I try to live with them, up to a point where I don't really get bothered by most things anymore if they are not too serious and I have found that any phone has its own quirks, just have to make my way around it.
Back to what I said about OnePlus VS OPPO, as I stated my reasoning here. I don't really get bothered with stuff so much so I go back to designs and camera systems which are actually the only real differentiator between the two and I have found that in my opinion, OPPO has been outclassing OnePlus for the past two years. Up to a point where I doubt why there is even a need for a OnePlus phone anymore, when there isn't actually any real niche.
Sorry if my English is not perfect, I'm Thai so, not my first language.

So basically after almost 4 months with this phone I can give some feedback about it...
Cameras...great but missing dedicated macrolens. Im super happy with the pics and the quality.
Build quality, screen, etc...top notch
Software...crappy...really. Getting more and more annoyed by it.
- finger print reader sometimes does not catch my fingertip
- "back" button on the bottom right corner of the screen sometimes does not work. I have to touch or scroll something else to get it working again.
- notifications are not so loud (comparing to old OP6T and brand new Redmi Note 10Pro for less than 290Euro)
- stereo speakers are nice but there is slight difference between them....so it is noticeable. In addition I played side by side some YT and spotify and notifications on X3Pro and Redmi Note 10Pro. Imho stereo speakers are slightly better on 10pro (a bit louder and a bit more bassy)
- missing notificiations on lock screen
- disappearing notifications from lock screen
- notifications appearing with HOURS of delay (its not about killing an app from memory.
....its just about notifications showing for old messages that were already replied by me)
- weak haptic. Vibration for notification is a joke in coloros...no other words can describe that. In oneplus i couls easily choose a vibration schema...here just simple short vibration barely noticeable.
...and some other minor bugs.
To sum up. Im happy with this phone in general but the software needs improvements and bugfixing. Sometimes I think that redmi note 10 pro is a bang for you buck while x3 pro is an overpriced phone (paid 750 euro but regular price is around 1100 euro)
Hopefully ColorOS 12 will fix most of these issues.