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I haven't seen a thead posted about this so I figured I'd get some input from people that have used both or either of the 2 root options.
What do you prefer and why? What are the pros and cons?
I know SuperSU is very well known and I'm familiar with it from the Galaxy S phones. Magisk is fairly new, but from what I heard it works well with Nougat and the other nice thing is that magisk can be toggled.
I'm not sure if there is any benefit to that or not, but I'd like to hear some feedback.
I'm interested to know more about this as well, but this is what I read about it.
Yes, Magisk can be toggled, so you can use Android Pay when you need it and then get back to being rooted.
However, for some reason, my AdAway adblocker just wouldn't work with Magisk+phhSU. No idea why. Everything else root worked well. When I had to clean flash the official Nougat, I decided to stick to good'ol SuperSU. I don't need the toggle function and everything worked great since.
So I've used both and can say this. Magisk works on both SuperSU and phhSU, although the later offers a different functionality. The toggle feature is an older feature of Magisk as they now have a hide feature baked in. This is the same as SUHide for SuperSU. I have yet to get SUHide working on the 3t, but I have it working on a few other phones. SuperSU+SUHide is great if you only want to run Root on your phone and hide systemless root from applications without having to really toggle Root. From my experience (YMMV), toggling root breaks things more than hiding. The only reason I have found to run Magisk is if you want to run Xposed as well. Xposed works with SuperSU, but Magisk does a pretty good job of UI integration with some of the pieces.
DarqAnshin said:
So I've used both and can say this. Magisk works on both SuperSU and phhSU, although the later offers a different functionality. The toggle feature is an older feature of Magisk as they now have a hide feature baked in. This is the same as SUHide for SuperSU. I have yet to get SUHide working on the 3t, but I have it working on a few other phones. SuperSU+SUHide is great if you only want to run Root on your phone and hide systemless root from applications without having to really toggle Root. From my experience (YMMV), toggling root breaks things more than hiding. The only reason I have found to run Magisk is if you want to run Xposed as well. Xposed works with SuperSU, but Magisk does a pretty good job of UI integration with some of the pieces.
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Awesome, thanks for the input! That's definitely helpful. So you would recommend going with magisk? Would you say magisk works equally as well on all versions of OOS? 3.5.* and the new 4.*+ (nougat) version?
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Awesome, thanks for the input! That's definitely helpful. So you would recommend going with magisk? Would you say magisk works equally as well on all versions of OOS? 3.5.* and the new 4.*+ (nougat) version?
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Keep in mind, your mileage may very and these are only my opinions. With that said I will say this:
I've only had my OnePlus 3t for about 3 weeks, so I only really used it on the latest version of OOS 3.5. It seems to work fine on 4.*, however, it did take me a few extra steps and sideload.
I honestly would go with SuperSU / SUhide if I could get it to work on 3T correctly like it does on my other devices. Right now I have this weird forever and a day boot time with SUHide.
Magisk works almost as well in my experience and on the devices I do run xposed on runs even better in my opinion. The new Magisk doesn't turn root off but does mask root from certain apps such as android pay. The interface, in my opinion, has gotten better over the iterations. Magisk also does allow you to flash from the direct input, which depending on your skill can help out greatly.
I would say this. If you require
Xposed
UI
live updates of actual software similar to TWRP's new loader
ability to flash from app
Use Magisk
If you like simplicity and raw power go with SuperSU. I did try the SUHide Gui but found Magisk's version much easier and reliable.
Thanks again! That's super helpful!
Guys, Im running Tugapower and I cannot root the rom. Any of you know how to fix it? I run the zip file to root and I start to phone and looks that works but after couple of minuts is not rooted anymore. Anyone else?
Has anybody used the the latest version of superuser with oos 4.0?
That's the SR2 2.79 version. The one before turned off sims and a reflash of 4.0 sorted out.
And the info on Magisk has been informative. Thanks!
As someone who has used phhSu and SuperSU (I've also paid for SuperSU Pro) I find either do the job and that SuperSU is good for getting a ROM going while I prefer to then re-root with phhSU after I have my ROM set up for daily use, although the only annoying thing with phhSU is that TB detects the su binary as being a non-SuperSU one so it pops up an extra warning.
Either is fine, just pick the one you like better I guess.
How did you guys flash a systemless root without triggering DM-Verity?
From my understanding, we flash superSU after flashing TWRP and allowing modifications, because superSU disables/bypasses DM-Verity
Am I missing something here?
Freyelis said:
How did you guys flash a systemless root without triggering DM-Verity?
From my understanding, we flash superSU after flashing TWRP and allowing modifications, because superSU disables/bypasses DM-Verity
Am I missing something here?
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With SuperSU 2.79 you don't need no-verity patch.
m0d hipp¥ said:
I haven't seen a thead posted about this so I figured I'd get some input from people that have used both or either of the 2 root options.
What do you prefer and why? What are the pros and cons?
I know SuperSU is very well known and I'm familiar with it from the Galaxy S phones. Magisk is fairly new, but from what I heard it works well with Nougat and the other nice thing is that magisk can be toggled.
I'm not sure if there is any benefit to that or not, but I'd like to hear some feedback.
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Actually Magisk doesn't give root but the modded version of Phh's Superuser does.
One of the main difference is that Phh's Superuser (and Magisk) are open source. Once Chainfire will leave his SuperSU project you will have to fully trust CCMT.
Hello,
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S6(64GB, Exynos) with Magisk-root. But I have the issue that it automatically uninstalls. And suddenly it’s unroot. Then I have to reinstall the Magisk-vXX.X.zip with TWRP (X.XX is the version, for example: 14.0 or 13.3). But after some hours it is uninstalled again and I lost the root access.
Then I have to repeat this...
Does someone have the same problem? Or does someone know how to fix this?
I don't want to reinstall the Magisk-package everytime i need root-access.. And I don't want to switch to another root because I like the Magisk-hide-function.
Or are there other roots with hide function?
(I don't want to install a Custom ROM!)
Thank you
Larry
larrythil said:
Hello,
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S6(64GB, Exynos) with Magisk-root. But I have the issue that it automatically uninstalls. And suddenly it’s unroot. Then I have to reinstall the Magisk-vXX.X.zip with TWRP (X.XX is the version, for example: 14.0 or 13.3). But after some hours it is uninstalled again and I lost the root access.
Then I have to repeat this...
Does someone have the same problem? Or does someone know how to fix this?
I don't want to reinstall the Magisk-package everytime i need root-access.. And I don't want to switch to another root because I like the Magisk-hide-function.
Or are there other roots with hide function?
Thank you
Larry
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I had the same problem with my Nexus 6P.
I was on stock ROM and stock kernel and it happened twice.
Now I'm on stock ROM and EX Kernel and problems seemed go away.
Inviato dal mio Nexus 6P utilizzando Tapatalk
CyberZeus1977 said:
I had the same problem with my Nexus 6P.
I was on stock ROM and stock kernel and it happened twice.
Now I'm on stock ROM and EX Kernel and problems seemed go away.
Inviato dal mio Nexus 6P utilizzando Tapatalk
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Tell me somthing about "stock kernel" and "EX Kernel" what is that and how can i install that? or change that?
I have the same problem, galaxy S6.
I noticed losing root randomly and fixed it by going install patch boot img then you flash the boot img in recovery. So far it's been a day no root loss
Lineage 14.1 for lg stylo 2 plus
Hi ! I have sale problem with my S8+ with custom rom and Custom kernel
Hello.
I am having the same issue with my S6. I have tried all of the advice from previous threads with regard to different versions of Magisk.. (Removing Busy Box / Not using the Magisk Hide feature... etc etc..). I have also been through as many extra options as I can think of, getting all of the "Update" patches from the other developers who have helped with the Magisk project.
Each time, I have run through all of the aditional scripts to make sure SU and Magisk have been completely removed prior, and then used Odin to do a recovery back to my Original ROM (a complete system backup image I previously saved).
The other interesting observation i have at the moment is that i can not get to the Log cat files to post them anywhere. I can see where they are supposed to be but the directory is empty "no files". I have even been as far as downloading one of the many "Mobile Forensic" software kits to try and see if there is anything wrong with my phone.
There is only one observation to report. It seems that after installing Magisk (even if you just install the main ROM and not the manager). Google play starts to download straight away... I am not sure what it is downloading as it doesn't ever seem to complete and all of my versions of the apps are up to date.
I hope I will be able to get some more usefull information for you soon (LogCat etc etc.). If any one has an answer or suggested options it would be good. I am particularly interested in getting the Busy Box feature to work with Root as I am working on an app for my job that needs both options (I work offshore and am trying to adapt a piece of Seismic QC software (unix based) to run on phones / tab's - Android).
I will sign up properly and start to follow the threads more closely.
Cheers... Andy
-Samsung S6 - Full Magisk Module (with recommended zeroflte TWRP).
AndyQVT said:
Hello.
I am having the same issue with my S6. I have tried all of the advice from previous threads with regard to different versions of Magisk.. (Removing Busy Box / Not using the Magisk Hide feature... etc etc..). I have also been through as many extra options as I can think of, getting all of the "Update" patches from the other developers who have helped with the Magisk project.
Each time, I have run through all of the aditional scripts to make sure SU and Magisk have been completely removed prior, and then used Odin to do a recovery back to my Original ROM (a complete system backup image I previously saved).
The other interesting observation i have at the moment is that i can not get to the Log cat files to post them anywhere. I can see where they are supposed to be but the directory is empty "no files". I have even been as far as downloading one of the many "Mobile Forensic" software kits to try and see if there is anything wrong with my phone.
There is only one observation to report. It seems that after installing Magisk (even if you just install the main ROM and not the manager). Google play starts to download straight away... I am not sure what it is downloading as it doesn't ever seem to complete and all of my versions of the apps are up to date.
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So long story short, there's no definitive solution to the problem. Im using a g920p with a custom kernel built by a genius dev, and i still lose root once a day.
Basically what it comes down to is modules. If you have zero modules, you'll have better luck... But that's not the point of magisk, so you need to be picky with modules. Use osmosis's busybox from the magisk repo, but other than that, install modules 1 at a time and see if it affects root.
Another tip: uninstall all updates of the "device maintenance" app, and find it in Google play and turn off automatic updates. Then go to device maintenance > battery > unmonitored apps and magisk manager to the list of unmonitored apps... Then go back the battery screen, battery usage > 3 dots in top right > optimize battery usage, and make sure magisk manager is not optimized... That should help some. (Note: some models don't have device maintenance, but you'll still have the "optimize battery usage" option some where.)
The Google play thing you're seeing is likely "instant apps" updating. I believe that should be unrelated to all this, but some aspects of instant apps is a mystery.
As for the logcat thing, i believe you're getting logcat confused with the magisk_debug.log located in /data ? If that's the case, you need to be using the beta version of magisk. Go to magisk and set the update channel to beta, you'll get a notification to update magisk, download it and flash. (Or if the recommended native install is an option, use that)
I recommend just using he normal 14.3 magisk... You'll have issues, but they will be predictable and easy to solve with a simple reboot. There's really no final solution for us unfortunately, just making it as stable as possible.
Lastly, it helps if once every once in a while you fully uninstall magisk with the uninstall.zip, reboot (you might not get a bootloop, in which case hold volume up +power+ home to boot into recovery), reflash magisk 14.3, and then wipe cache and art/davik.
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larrythil said:
Hello,
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S6(64GB, Exynos) with Magisk-root. But I have the issue that it automatically uninstalls. And suddenly it’s unroot. Then I have to reinstall the Magisk-vXX.X.zip with TWRP (X.XX is the version, for example: 14.0 or 13.3). But after some hours it is uninstalled again and I lost the root access.
Then I have to repeat this...
Does someone have the same problem? Or does someone know how to fix this?
I don't want to reinstall the Magisk-package everytime i need root-access.. And I don't want to switch to another root because I like the Magisk-hide-function.
Or are there other roots with hide function?
(I don't want to install a Custom ROM!)
Thank you
Larry
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See above
Thanks to all for the help
Nye-uhls said:
So long story short, there's no definitive solution to the problem. Im using a g920p with a custom kernel built by a genius dev, and i still lose root once a day.
Basically what it comes down to is modules. If you have zero modules, you'll have better luck... But that's not the point of magisk, so you need to be picky with modules. Use osmosis's busybox from the magisk repo, but other than that, install modules 1 at a time and see if it affects root.
Another tip: uninstall all updates of the "device maintenance" app, and find it in Google play and turn off automatic updates. Then go to device maintenance > battery > unmonitored apps and magisk manager to the list of unmonitored apps... Then go back the battery screen, battery usage > 3 dots in top right > optimize battery usage, and make sure magisk manager is not optimized... That should help some. (Note: some models don't have device maintenance, but you'll still have the "optimize battery usage" option some where.)
The Google play thing you're seeing is likely "instant apps" updating. I believe that should be unrelated to all this, but some aspects of instant apps is a mystery.
As for the logcat thing, i believe you're getting logcat confused with the magisk_debug.log located in /data ? If that's the case, you need to be using the beta version of magisk. Go to magisk and set the update channel to beta, you'll get a notification to update magisk, download it and flash. (Or if the recommended native install is an option, use that)
I recommend just using he normal 14.3 magisk... You'll have issues, but they will be predictable and easy to solve with a simple reboot. There's really no final solution for us unfortunately, just making it as stable as possible.
Lastly, it helps if once every once in a while you fully uninstall magisk with the uninstall.zip, reboot (you might not get a bootloop, in which case hold volume up +power+ home to boot into recovery), reflash magisk 14.3, and then wipe cache and art/davik.
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Hello again.
So in response.
I followed the advice given... (just as a note previously the root issue would happen within an hour of restarting the device). I have been to the beta thread and read through all advice. Before jumping to the Magisk 14.3, I started with Magisk 14.2, there was a post recommending this as a critical update to Magisk 14.0.
I had no issues with this install (I had once again used my backup to revert the phone back to all original).
I then added any of the modules i wanted one at a time waiting over an hour before looking at adding any additional modules.
So far, I have not lost root and the phone is working as expected (alot better infact). I have all the Busybox modules +add-on's running, still no issues.
The upgrade to v14.2 seems to have fixed all for my uses.
Thanks to all for help and advice.
Andy
AndyQVT said:
Hello again.
So in response.
I followed the advice given... (just as a note previously the root issue would happen within an hour of restarting the device). I have been to the beta thread and read through all advice. Before jumping to the Magisk 14.3, I started with Magisk 14.2, there was a post recommending this as a critical update to Magisk 14.0.
I had no issues with this install (I had once again used my backup to revert the phone back to all original).
I then added any of the modules i wanted one at a time waiting over an hour before looking at adding any additional modules.
So far, I have not lost root and the phone is working as expected (alot better infact). I have all the Busybox modules +add-on's running, still no issues.
The upgrade to v14.2 seems to have fixed all for my uses.
Thanks to all for help and advice.
Andy
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Glad everything is good! Sometimes magisk will get messed up, so just updating or even reinstalling will fix things.
Just keep in mind, its very likely you'll have problems again down the road... Samsung phones do a lot of weird stuff under the hood, and eventually symlinks will get broken, files deleted etc... So when that does happen, the best you can do is uninstall, reflash, update, and watch your modules.
Today updated to 15.3 and install James DSP root losed...When open magisk ask for installation reboot to recovery twrp install latest zip reboot open magisk it close it self and root lost again ?! Any advice from @topjohnwu
Do you guys mind posting a resource that shows how to root the S6 using magisk? I'm very rusty, last time I dealt with rooting was 8 years ago. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
No rom dev.
Can't get magisk in.
Dk magisk anyways
Xposed is doa? Or past it's prime.
Ok, how to gain root? Flash kernel which won't flash? Ow.
ǀcey said:
No rom dev.
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Uh... you can try GSIs on this phone after unlocking bootloader. Most of the phone's functionality work with GSIs at the moment.
ǀcey said:
Can't get magisk in.
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Recently Magisk has changed its way of distribution so there's only an apk now. But if you rename the Magisk apk into a zip, you can then flash it from TWRP (which you can access by flashing arter97's kernel).
ǀcey said:
Dk magisk anyways
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Nowadays if you're to root the most ideal approach would be Magisk, which allows you to modify the system without directly touching the system partition, as well as hiding its presence from certain sensitive apps so Safety Net can still pass.
ǀcey said:
Xposed is doa? Or past it's prime.
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If you're saying it's past prime... in some aspects, yes, thanks to the fact that you can't have both Xposed and Safety Net passing at the same time.
Still, if you're interested, you may consider looking for EdXposed or LSposed. I haven't tested it myself as I don't really have a use case at the moment, but these might be useful.
ǀcey said:
Ok, how to gain root? Flash kernel which won't flash? Ow.
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You mostly need to just unlock bootloader following official instructions. After that you can proceed to flash kernels and GSIs through fastboot.
PS: I think this thread should best be posted in the Q&A forum...
EDIT: Just noticed your other post. If that was your real question... well, you were in the stock recovery and not the bootloader so fastboot commands obviously won't work there.
To enter bootloader, power it off, hold VOL- and POWER buttons until you see something like "Restart Bootloader", then you should be able to use fastboot.
Thank you, for all of your information!
It helped me by heaps!
The biggest problem I was having, was thinking the phone was in fastboot when it wasn't.
When I figured that out, the phone was quickly up n running on Phh-Treble with GApps Gsi.
Magisk Manager vs apk uses were confusing. It's Modules I can more easily blindly understand due to knowing XPosed.
Magisk went in smoothly & successfully via the change extension fastboot method which you explained.
But it appears the same as before inside the OS It's there but not really in type of thing.
Everything but the f2fs file and Magisk did complain.
I have no idea what kernel actually made it in now.
Safetynet! Hahaha! Is a new thing for me.
My phone is PlayStore bonafide uncertified also now.
PlayStore, I tried some other gapps nothing really changes, it just reupdates back to where it was, if it does, anyways(I think).
I tried registering device too. Failed that!
Being Uncertified = no netflix, no bank apps(deal breakers to me). GPhotos 1/2-ish working. Gvoice, Gmail working great! Razer Themes.apk + Pandora disappeared. I miss Razer Themes Lockscreens alot! Razer gives only a play link.
I installed older Netflix & Bank app. Both working.
Play ignores netflix but updated Bank. The same Bank app did stop working on a deemed outdated device in the past. It's not Chase but close.
I did try hiding things from the launcher via an other installed launcher.
An old Selinux(sp?) showed set to permissive. I changed to enforced, rebooted and it appeared to stick.
I installed Greenify(old) and stopped everything then did my monthly banking business, paid, xferred, etc. All transactions were confirmed. Boot still unlocked.
Soon afterwards, I installed Aptoide which informed me of root.
The Gsi's package Installer, won't install anything from within Es(I'm a diehard Es file manager user). The built-in file manager must be used to call the installer. The built-in file manager also crashes when searching.
A buggy installer I can deal with. Banking without it's app, I can not.
A halfbaked PlayStore is doable but not ideal.
The gsi itself on a RP2 is beautiful. The darks darker. The flashlight toggle works now! The fingerprint sensor never worked, still doesn't. 120fps, few games bake that capablity in. I haven't tested yet. No sound in Wyze app.
I recommend having your fav most used .apks dled before leaping onto it.
First boot was loud! Be prepared!
Then nothing.
2 days later, I noticed all alarms & notifications were set to silent sound.wav.
Idk, where to go from here. Stick to where it is now & wait for fixes. Go back. Or to go patch crazy if I can manage to get Magisk in.
I'm happy enough where it is now and it feels pretty secure. Will relocking the bootloader wipe it? The adult in me thinks.
But! I love tweaking...zzz
Relocking undoes it
LSS4181 said:
Uh... you can try GSIs on this phone after unlocking bootloader. Most of the phone's functionality work with GSIs at the moment.
Recently Magisk has changed its way of distribution so there's only an apk now. But if you rename the Magisk apk into a zip, you can then flash it from TWRP (which you can access by flashing arter97's kernel).
Nowadays if you're to root the most ideal approach would be Magisk, which allows you to modify the system without directly touching the system partition, as well as hiding its presence from certain sensitive apps so Safety Net can still pass.
If you're saying it's past prime... in some aspects, yes, thanks to the fact that you can't have both Xposed and Safety Net passing at the same time.
Still, if you're interested, you may consider looking for EdXposed or LSposed. I haven't tested it myself as I don't really have a use case at the moment, but these might be useful.
You mostly need to just unlock bootloader following official instructions. After that you can proceed to flash kernels and GSIs through fastboot.
PS: I think this thread should best be posted in the Q&A forum...
EDIT: Just noticed your other post. If that was your real question... well, you were in the stock recovery and not the bootloader so fastboot commands obviously won't work there.
To enter bootloader, power it off, hold VOL- and POWER buttons until you see something like "Restart Bootloader", then you should be able to use fastboot.
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I have one of the faulty charging ports so cannot do anything with USB. I do have my bootloader unlocked so is there any way to get the gsi's, twrp and root onto the phone via SD card? Any help is appreciated.
The new Magisk is here and with it some major changes. One of the most important is the removal of support for "MagiskHide". There are many advanced users who have figured this all out already and few (maybe more) like me who are just kind of lost not knowing what should be exactly done to be able to update and be able to use Magisk as they were, before the update.
I was hoping that a kind soul would put up an easy step by step guide to help these users and at the same time it will avoid a lot of repetitive questions on the main thread. I personally spent a long time reading many pages and was not able to fully understand what should be done.
In my case all I want to achieve is to update and be able to hide Magisk like it was in the previous version. Should I start by un-hiding it first before doing the update?
(what and how and from where) should I add something that will replace the hiding function? Viola! these are the kind of simple questions that will help some of us get going
I hope that someone will bring his precious help
Yeah I unfortunately did my upgrade and fought with the whole process for 6 hours straight (lol) and I still don't know what I did exactly to even begin to write any instructions - other than 6 hours straight of reading and trying and hoping .....
Not sure if you have been able to refer to this which helped me.... But, I also have an very basic understanding of how my device (OnePlus 7T) works with Magisk... Hope this helps. May be see if your specific device has the instructions already posted in the device specific forum here?
Installation
The Magic Mask for Android
topjohnwu.github.io
I've not used the Magisk hide cause I haven't needed it - BUT, it's still available in the latest Magisk Manager (24.1) in the Magisk Manager settings. I'm only using the systemless hosts module (included in Magisk manager settings) for Adaway, and the universal safety net fix to get Google Play store to say my device is certified.
But I don't know what device you have nor do I know the specific ROM you are using.
Sounds like you have root already so I'm thinking that's the worst of this behind you if you've already done that much yourself. Sounds like it's a basic case of update the Magisk Manager app from itself then determine the method appropriate for root to update which could be through the Manager app or like I chose to use the boot IMG then patch that then install since my device has no working TWRP. That, and once I updated the manager app and panicked so I uninstalled it to try and downgrade to v23 .... Good luck and may be just don't update just yet if there is no specific need to at this time. Take your time and read and proceed when comfortable.
Please:
Start with your preferred method of backing up everything first.
Also, may be consider if it's necessary to update and why??? I'm on stock Andriod 11 and this Magisk update make me think it's intended to be more for those on Android 12 - but I could also assume wrongly.
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
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That's the thread I'm reading now...
Thanks a lot for your reply wugga3. I also on my side found two very helpful posts. They explain the basics (just to get started) and to make the update . I hope with the information gathered I will be able to do the update without messing things up!
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This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
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Good and good luck...
One problem and probably the only problem I really had was self inflicted for not following the instructions properly and that was to uninstall any Magisk modules first or at that the appropriate step.
Other than that... still don't know your device or rom etc. Your device specific or rom specific forums may be able to provide you with much better assistance from members that have the same rom/device as you.
wugga3 said:
Good and good luck...
One problem and probably the only problem I really had was self inflicted for not following the instructions properly and that was to uninstall any Magisk modules first or at that the appropriate step.
Other than that... still don't know your device or rom etc. Your device specific or rom specific forums may be able to provide you with much better assistance from members that have the same rom/device as youI
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I am using LineageOS 18.1 Android 11 for Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and I have twrp as recovery. Magisk 2.30 is already installed and device is rooted. I have no modules installed and in Magisk settings I have only MagiskHide enabled. All other settings are set to default. On Samsung Note3 forum there is no talk about this (understandable as the device is very old).
Ok great and is there any discussion for lineage 18.1 and root/update?
Since it's lineage 18 and based on Andriod 11 - I have to wonder if there is even the need to update Magisk as my limited understanding is that the Magisk update is aimed at Andriod 12? Other than that... I should expect from my prior understandings of Samsung that nothing much has changed with respect to root and updates of Magisk. Not much help but hopefully enough. May be best to wait until for now and usually I do also wait until all the facts are in and the bugs are sorted out (if any...) before I update if unnecessary.
Thanks wugga3,
I disabled "Check for updates" in Magisk app and decided to keep the older 2.30 version for now. Everything is working fine and so there is no reason to fix something which is not broken. The only reason I thought That I should update was a real advantage over the older version or a security weakness being fixed in the new one.
I am even seeing some people asking for help on how to downgrade! Anyway as you said wisely, it;s not after all a bad idea to wait a little to see how things work out for those who have upgraded and have new issues fixed before taking the jump.
Moving from 23.0 to 24.1 is straightforward
1. Update app
2. Update boot (Magisk) to 24.1, reboot
3. Enable Zygisk, reboot
4. Enforce Deny List, reboot
5. Install module USNF, reboot
6. Configure Deny List. Don't worry about Play Service because USNF will take care of it. Add any app detected root into it, and reboot every time it's updated
7. Install Fox Module manager and pick module you want
mingkee said:
Moving from 23.0 to 24.1 is straightforward
1. Update app
2. Update boot to 24.1, reboot
3. Enable Zygisk, reboot
4. Enforce Deny List, reboot
5. Install module USNF, reboot
6. Configure Deny List. Don't worry about Play Service because USNF will take care of it. Add any app detected root into it, and reboot every time it's updated
7. Install Fox Module manager and pick module you want
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Thanks a lot for your post mingkee,
I am sure many like me will be happy and appreciate reading this instead of having to go through many pages and still not be totally sure what to do
Allow me to just ask one question as I did not understand the second option of your instruction:
I update Magisk from the application itself. Once updated what do you mean by update boot to 24.1? This is to be done in Magisk itself?
rezpower said:
Thanks a lot for your post mingkee,
I am sure many like me will be happy and appreciate reading this instead of having to go through many pages and still not be totally sure what to do
Allow me to just ask one question as I did not understand the second option of your instruction:
I update Magisk from the application itself. Once updated what do you mean by update boot to 24.1? This is to be done in Magisk itself?
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After updated app to 24.1, you will see another update on top of the app (Magisk). Direct install would be the simplest method
mingkee said:
Moving from 23.0 to 24.1 is straightforward
1. Update app
2. Update boot (Magisk) to 24.1, reboot
3. Enable Zygisk, reboot
4. Enforce Deny List, reboot
5. Install module USNF, reboot
6. Configure Deny List. Don't worry about Play Service because USNF will take care of it. Add any app detected root into it, and reboot every time it's updated
7. Install Fox Module manager and pick module you want
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this should be pinned somewhere, very simple and worked fine on my Poco F3 using miui.eu & android 11
thanks a lot
I apologize if this is a noob question. I haven't rooted since Pixel 2, so it has been close to 6 years and I am not very aware anymore about Magisk. I can probably find videos regarding how to install Magisk and root, but my question was with its use of LSposed and Pixelfy Google photos.
The Pixel 5 and older have free photo storage, and I assume this module spoofs the type of phone and makes it think it is a Pixel and gives free photo storage.
I have a phone I am not using but it is not rooted yet and something I am considering.
I have been also checking various threads and there is mixed feedback on this particular module.
Does anyone use the Pixelfy free photo storage ? It looks like it needs to be used with Magisk and LSposed to get it to work ? Some threads it looks like it works, others have been commenting that it is bricking and causing problems. If it is unreliable or bricking, then I'll just see if I can buy and older pixel but thought I'd ask here first. Thanks.
mikeprius said:
I apologize if this is a noob question. I haven't rooted since Pixel 2, so it has been close to 6 years and I am not very aware anymore about Magisk. I can probably find videos regarding how to install Magisk and root, but my question was with its use of LSposed and Pixelfy Google photos.
The Pixel 5 and older have free photo storage, and I assume this module spoofs the type of phone and makes it think it is a Pixel and gives free photo storage.
I have a phone I am not using but it is not rooted yet and something I am considering.
I have been also checking various threads and there is mixed feedback on this particular module.
Does anyone use the Pixelfy free photo storage ? It looks like it needs to be used with Magisk and LSposed to get it to work ? Some threads it looks like it works, others have been commenting that it is bricking and causing problems. If it is unreliable or bricking, then I'll just see if I can buy and older pixel but thought I'd ask here first. Thanks.
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If you mean this LSPosed module, then yes, I use it on 3 of my devices and it works perfectly.
And yes, it requires to be rooted with Magisk and to have LSPosed framework installed.
Lord Sithek said:
If you mean this LSPosed module, then yes, I use it on 3 of my devices and it works perfectly.
And yes, it requires to be rooted with Magisk and to have LSPosed framework installed.
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Hi yes I believe this is it. So in order to have unlimited Google photo uploads, I need to first root, have magisk, download lsposed, then download this module separately?
I have a pixel 6a. Has there been any issues with Google halting or finding out about the spoof and blocking it?
mikeprius said:
Hi yes I believe this is it. So in order to have unlimited Google photo uploads, I need to first root, have magisk, download lsposed, then download this module separately?
I have a pixel 6a. Has there been any issues with Google halting or finding out about the spoof and blocking it?
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Yes...there is actually two methods Pixelify goes about this; they either spoof the Pixel 5 (which is the latest Pixel Google will allow unlimited uploads but at "Storage Saver" lowered quality on the photos and videos) or the original Pixel(1) [which is the original and only Google Pixel left that Google allows unlimited uploads in original quality]. So you would need to decide which method you are willing to try and do...
But yes, you'd have to unlock the bootloader (which wipes the device), root with Magisk, install the LSPosed Magisk module, then run that Unlimited Google Photo app (or Baltiapps Pixelify GPhotos as it's officially named) which will then install the LSPosed module "separately".
I've already spoken a bit on this, so I will just quote what I said before (things to consider and risks involved) as well as you can click on the quote to go to the post/thread and see how the discussion developed there;
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I wouldn't make this claim with such certainty. Spoofing a Pixel phone is definitely against Google's Terms and Conditions. Doing this for years may have worked out since Google was offering it from Pixel 2-5 in Storage Saver capacity, but it's been 2 years since the Pixel 5 was released, and as time goes on, it's less realistic that Pixel's before 6 would still be in use, yet there would be all these accounts still backing up using the unlimited storage feature. ESPECIALLY if (like me, to be guilty of) there are many who are spoofing the Pixel 1 to get it unlimited WITH original quality -- being the first Pixel is 7 years old; highly unrealistic that so many people should still be using the phone to be taking photos and videos off of.
My point is that, no one using this "trick" should completely rely on it and expect Google to "play along" indefinitely about it. Like I've been saying, at best, Google will just plug in the loophole and close the feature down; at worst, they remove any photo or video that were taken under a particular Pixel model when your google account shows it being connected to another device altogether and/or they suspend a google account outright using the exploit -- this is highly unlikely, but is still in the realm of possibility and is as I said worst case.
I, myself, back my photos and videos from my Pixel 7 Pro using this spoofing trick, but I will also back all my media up (when my device is full) on a physical medium just in case.
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P.S. Also, since you are out of practice in rooting, there is an excellent tool that streamlines most anything to do outside of stock experience on the Pixels (bootloader unlocking, rooting, flashing and/or updating Full Factory images or OTAs [to either both or inactive slots], flashing custom ROMs, other recovery checks and protocols, advanced apk install or apk/app disabling [system, stock], it might even be able to flash custom kernels but I can't be too sure) which would be able to accomplish what your aims are pretty much with a single click (outside of clicking where your factory images are and what not)....
simplepinoi177 said:
Yes...there is actually two methods Pixelify goes about this; they either spoof the Pixel 5 (which is the latest Pixel Google will allow unlimited uploads but at "Storage Saver" lowered quality on the photos and videos) or the original Pixel(1) [which is the original and only Google Pixel left that Google allows unlimited uploads in original quality]. So you would need to decide which method you are willing to try and do...
But yes, you'd have to unlock the bootloader (which wipes the device), root with Magisk, install the LSPosed Magisk module, then run that Unlimited Google Photo app (or Baltiapps Pixelify GPhotos as it's officially named) which will then install the LSPosed module "separately".
I've already spoken a bit on this, so I will just quote what I said before (things to consider and risks involved) as well as you can click on the quote to go to the post/thread and see how the discussion developed there;
P.S. Also, since you are out of practice in rooting, there is an excellent tool that streamlines most anything to do outside of stock experience on the Pixels (bootloader unlocking, rooting, flashing and/or updating Full Factory images or OTAs [to either both or inactive slots], flashing custom ROMs, other recovery checks and protocols, advanced apk install or apk/app disabling [system, stock], it might even be able to flash custom kernels but I can't be too sure) which would be able to accomplish what your aims are pretty much with a single click (outside of clicking where your factory images are and what not)....
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Thank you for the information. So before the way I used to root was I would use adb then type fastboot img then the TWRP file.
Then reboot and now I have custom recovery TWRP. This is of course after I have unlocked the bootloader which wiped.
I assume this is still the case where oem unlock is checked in developer options then sdb fastboot flashing unlock?
I briefly used magisk by topjohnwu but it was new back then and I sort of didn't keep up with it.
If there is a program or different method is it possible to point me to it? I honestly can remember what to do after booting TWRP.
Regarding the spoofing, the standard upload of the pixel 5 is fine for me and you mentioned some good points regarding Google potentially catching on. At the time banking apps didn't care if you were rooted but I think they do not work anymore if you are.
Also I thought I read somewhere, lets say I just flash a custom rom instead and don't use the pixel OS, will this be automatically for this module without having to do anything extra? It reminds me of when all custom roms had free Hotspot tethering built in so you didn't need to do anything extra.
I also don't mind flashing a custom rom and using it as a dedicated backup device either. Just exploring options
Thanks for the starter info. I just realized how long it has been and I don't recognize anything anymore.
mikeprius said:
Thank you for the information. So before the way I used to root was I would use adb then type fastboot img then the TWRP file.
Then reboot and now I have custom recovery TWRP. This is of course after I have unlocked the bootloader which wiped.
I assume this is still the case where oem unlock is checked in developer options then sdb fastboot flashing unlock?
I briefly used magisk by topjohnwu but it was new back then and I sort of didn't keep up with it.
If there is a program or different method is it possible to point me to it? I honestly can remember what to do after booting TWRP.
Regarding the spoofing, the standard upload of the pixel 5 is fine for me and you mentioned some good points regarding Google potentially catching on. At the time banking apps didn't care if you were rooted but I think they do not work anymore if you are.
Also I thought I read somewhere, lets say I just flash a custom rom instead and don't use the pixel OS, will this be automatically for this module without having to do anything extra? It reminds me of when all custom roms had free Hotspot tethering built in so you didn't need to do anything extra.
I also don't mind flashing a custom rom and using it as a dedicated backup device either. Just exploring options
Thanks for the starter info. I just realized how long it has been and I don't recognize anything anymore.
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I also had a Pixel 2 XL (taimen) for 3 years -- upgraded to the Pixel 5 -- so I am familiar with the method you are familiar with.
Unfortunately, that is no longer how it works. It sucks, but TWRP could never catch up after Android 10 -- it would take so long for them to develop that once they finally got TWRP to work with Android 10, Android 11 was released and became the new established version; then once they finally got it compatible with Android 11, Android 12 released and the same thing. So, as I understand it, TWRP does work in a limited capacity for Android 12, but it will not work for Android 13 (yet); and it seems if history repeats itself, it might not get there by the time Android 14 releases...
So still using magisk, but you can't "install" magisk from a .zip like you could with TWRP.
It's not that much more complicated than flashing Full Factory images or temp booting from a recovery image -- you simply extract the init_boot.img from the Full Factory image, "run it through" the Magisk app and get it patched that way, then flash the patched image the same way you flash the recovery partition (from the TWRP image) to permanently install/flash the custom recovery.
But, if you are still wary about going about all of this and/or if you are out of practice and unsure, please consider badabing2003's PixelFlasher. It basically does all of that stuff, but puts a GUI and automates it all for you -- as well as doing certain checks and protocols to make sure things aren't done wrong or buggy/incompatibly. It's as close to "one-click" as anyone's gonna get for the Pixels...
PixelFlasher will guide you to downloading the Full Factory image (or OTA if you wish that way), Magisk, the right platform-tools version (the least buggy version), i believe it can unlock the bootloader (but I could be wrong), and root or Full Factory update for you.
Hope this helps!
Lord Sithek said:
If you mean this LSPosed module, then yes, I use it on 3 of my devices and it works perfectly.
And yes, it requires to be rooted with Magisk and to have LSPosed framework installed.
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Please, after installing how can be used?
Thanks!
amplatfus said:
Please, after installing how can be used?
Thanks!
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after installing the module, the module actually installs an app (which can be found in the app drawer) under "Pixelify GPhotos". Running the app should give you all the settings and options you need to get it to work/"be used" -- it even has a button to force-close Google Photos to reset it to detect the spoofing. Just be sure you have all modules enabled (LSPosed[within Magisk], Pixelify GPhotos[within LSPosed]).
I've assisted a bunch of users/members where they had to play around with the configurations a bunch to finally get it to work for them; for whatever reason, one configuration works for one user but not the other -- my configuration did not work for some of them and they had to enable certain settings to get it to work for them (even though we are using the same device).
simplepinoi177 said:
after installing the module, the module actually installs an app (which can be found in the app drawer) under "Pixelify GPhotos". Running the app should give you all the settings and options you need to get it to work/"be used" -- it even has a button to force-close Google Photos to reset it to detect the spoofing. Just be sure you have all modules enabled (LSPosed[within Magisk], Pixelify GPhotos[within LSPosed]).
I've assisted a bunch of users/members where they had to play around with the configurations a bunch to finally get it to work for them; for whatever reason, one configuration works for one user but not the other -- my configuration did not work for some of them and they had to enable certain settings to get it to work for them (even though we are using the same device).
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Hi thank you for all your help. I currently have the pixel 6a now and will get the 7a but probably keep the 6a as a dev device. Once I unlock the bootloader, I will try the pixel flasher and go from there. Good to know about TWRP but if there is a newer and better way I am all about experimenting with that as well. I may give it a run over the summer.
Once I download pixel flasher and install magisk, so I go to gitgub and download lsposed then install pixelfy as a module separately?
Unlock bootloader -> pixel flasher->magisk->Lsposed-> Pixelfy?
Thanks and salamat po
mikeprius said:
Hi thank you for all your help. I currently have the pixel 6a now and will get the 7a but probably keep the 6a as a dev device. Once I unlock the bootloader, I will try the pixel flasher and go from there. Good to know about TWRP but if there is a newer and better way I am all about experimenting with that as well. I may give it a run over the summer.
Once I download pixel flasher and install magisk, so I go to gitgub and download lsposed then install pixelfy as a module separately?
Unlock bootloader -> pixel flasher->magisk->Lsposed-> Pixelfy?
Thanks and salamat po
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Once [you] download pixel flasher and install magisk,...go to [github] and download LSPosed (zygisk version), then install Pixelify GPhotos (Baltiapps version, not original kingsman44) LSPosed module as a module separately (in LSPosed).
It will then install a companion app which you can set the settings and options....
But yes, "Unlock bootloader -> pixel flasher->magisk->Lsposed-> Pixelfy?" looks right; just keep in mind that unlocking bootloader wipes device, and use Pixelify Baltiapps and not kingsman44's.
Glad to help!