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[Q] How to make ADW run smoother on N1 w/ Cyanogen 6? Move to launcherpro?

The lag seen with ADW is really starting to annoy me. At first I was ultra happy with the phone, but then some of my friends with iphone 4s pointed out how choppy the switching of homescreens was on the N1 along with the stutter seen on the app drawer. I have googled everything and cant find a fix. I already tried doing the recomended settings from the link below, but there is still lag. Will switching to launcher pro fix my issues? I am hesitant to switch because I love that ADW has the look of the stock froyo launcher, is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2700-adw-vs-launcher-pro-for-cm6/page__view__findpost__p__25057

Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
You're only 2346851 in number to ask this question.

Jack_R1 said:
Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
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Haha so true, ignorance is great. Yea i know alot of people had similar questions, but all the threads i found were not for N1s and they were pretty old, figured out some genius must have done something about it since just about everything else has been done on these xda forums. I just hate seeing wasted potential. The snapdragon and 512mb ram is more than enough horsepower to get simple smooth scrolling down. Just wish there was some type of gpu acceleration support.
By the way how do you turn off the wifi automatically when you leave home? I rely on the powercontrol widget.

I had a similar point from an iPhone user, I barely noticed it - and then I pointed out I was running a custom launcher (launcher pro) with a TON of widgets and animated wallpaper. Since then an update has made it silky smooth.
There are a few themes in launcher pro, default froyo is one - I use wide froyo which gives me:
phone-contacts-app-drawer-sms-browser
buttons.

Gingerbread should help in this department, or so they say. Currently the best the launchers can do still has a hiccup or two from time to time. Personally, I don't even notice it, using LauncherPro, as the poster above me, with all 7 screens full of icons and widgets, and Starfield wallpaper.
Locale. It's a great concept app. I used it, but stopped - now I just keep BT and WiFi constantly on (BT almost doesn't drain battery - usually less than 2% of the power - and WiFi is present at home and at work, so I turn it off only when the phone is expected to last long in places where no WiFi is found). Since I don't have other uses - like turning down the volume automatically in specific places, etc - I stopped using it.

smachine said:
... along with the stutter seen on the app drawer.
is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
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Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.

adambenjamin said:
Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.
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Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.

smachine said:
Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.
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You can easily switch back. A lot of people seems to be experiencing a little lag with adw in the latest CM version. Launcher pro doesn't have this issue.
I'm not sure about Adw running in the background, but you can easily uninstall it using titanium backup.

I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).

smachine said:
I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).
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My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps

ctbear said:
My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps
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I bought my nexus with cm6 already installed, and still havent bothered updating to the newest 6.1 version. Mainly im just waiting till the end of the month. Dont want to mess anything up and i need my phone to be fully functional till then. All i know is that in the sd card I saw a clockworkmod file, so im assuming thats the backup. I will go into installing custom roms probably when gingerbread is released. I might try installing launcher pro again and uninstalling adw fully and see if that fixes the lag. I like ADW and just wish the app scrolling was a little more smooth.
**** I just found out that my ADW version was 1.0.1, and there have many updates since then. I found a 1.2.0 version and will test that out. http://code.google.com/p/adw-launcher-android/downloads/list

Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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HTCinToronto said:
Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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Couldn't agree more I used to juggle roms and now I use miuimod with lpp with the screen cache turned off and if I have to compete against a iPhone showdown then I put my min CPU at 384 and it should be as smooth if not smoother. n1 is great for tinkering
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also turning off the transparency in the drawer should help improve smoothness

Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.

smachine said:
Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.
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A lot of it depends on the specific wallpaper in question. Slower, more subtle animations tend to behave better (and use less battery) than some of the more intense ones. I recommend one called Substrate - it slowly evolves and changes, but keeps the homescreen transitions very smooth and snappy.
I'm currently running one called "better matrix" or something similar that is very eye catching but doesn't bog things down too much.

Anyone switch over to another launcher right away?

Just wondering if any of you switched over to Nova or if your sticking to the stock launcher.
Ive noticed some lag with stock but I enjoy the widgets touch wiz offers.
Stock or aftermarket launcher?

I'm currently using aviate by yahoo and I like it a lot especially with the transparent setting

I pretty much switched to Nova Launcher right away. Didn't even bother playing around with the Touchwiz launcher

Nova, latest beta. Looking good.

I'm using TW with no issues at all.

nova all the time.
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As soon as I got all my apps installed, switched to Google Experience.

This is clearly a question - it belongs in Q&A, moved. Please post in the correct sections.
Thanks.

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This is clearly a question - it belongs in Q&A, moved. Please post in the correct sections.
Thanks.
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Looks like your work is cut out for ya today lol.

devynbf said:
As soon as I got all my apps installed, switched to Google Experience.
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That's the Google Now Launcher? I use a lot of different lauchers in my Note2 but Go Launcher is the one I have the most setup due to the extensive customizability-gestures-3D effects but it wasn't as impressive when I quickly installed in on a Note4 in Best Buy perhaps because I hadn't customized it yet but I also like the Google Now Launcher & Nova & Themer.
I generally immediately get rid of TW but it wasn't as bad in the Note4 but still not ultra smooth or interesting as the other lauchers. I really like the ability to change launchers which is another reason Android is & the next time I play with a Note4 I'll go through more launchers as it could definitely look cooler & be more functional.:good:

I switched to Nova Launcher beta instantly. TouchWiz isn't bad, but I can't stand the grid spacing as I like to keep a few widgets and apps on my main home screen.

I've already switched to Nova, phone should be here Friday. ??

DruHill said:
I switched to Nova Launcher beta instantly. TouchWiz isn't bad, but I can't stand the grid spacing as I like to keep a few widgets and apps on my main home screen.
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Agree grid of icons gets old fast like lame iOS & I also try to keep icons to a minimum (Go Launcher lets you program 5 base hideable icons to launch additional apps with gestures like swipe up as well as scroll swipe across to another 5 icons & another 5 icons (5x3=15 x 2 including the programmable gestures upon a long press menu = 30 apps-shortcuts-functions) & I use a lot of widgets so I don't even have to click icons to access some data. I don't think non-Prime Nova lets you customize as much as Go Launcher but there are more & more cool launchers being developed & still setting up other launchers I previously mentioned.

Switched to Nova pretty much immediately. As mentioned above I can't stand the spacing between icons. Also I need gesture support, especially with such a large phone. Why that still hasn't been built into the touchwiz launcher I'll never know.

First thing I did was install the ADW launcher. I've been a fan for a long time.

5 icons row on home screen

There are any posibility to have 5 icons row with the stock launcher? (like Nexus 6P, same resolution and screen size phone)
Thanks!

matiasggg said:
There are any posibility to have 5 icons row with the stock launcher? (like Nexus 6P, same resolution and screen size phone)
Thanks!
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If you have Xposed, you can use XGels to accomplish that.

brholt6 said:
If you have Xposed, you can use XGels to accomplish that.
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I dont want root the phone.. buy may be is the only way

You can try downloading Nova Launcher from the play store (or another launcher if you prefer, but Nova is often regarded as the best). It's not the stock launcher but it is very feature rich and runs like a charm. The only thing you'd be missing from the stock launcher is swiping left to Google Now, but there's a million and a half other ways to use a shortcut for Google Now. I personally don't miss it much.
Anyway, now that I've gone off on a tangent, yeah Nova Launcher let's you customize the grid layout of your home screen. I use 5 columns (like the 6P) and it really is great.

As the rest mentioned your only two possibilities are to root your phone and install xposed then use something like XGels or GravityBox or Install a custom launcher. Your best bet for custom launcher would have to be Nova Launcher as it's the closest to stock. You can even set up vertical scrolling. I'm rooted and my launcher of choice is Nova Launcher. Trust me Google Now is not as good as you might think.

matiasggg said:
There are any posibility to have 5 icons row with the stock launcher? (like Nexus 6P, same resolution and screen size phone)
Thanks!
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Did you update the Google launcher? I seem to have it, not sure if its a feature of the ROM I am on or not which is why I am asking if you updated your Google launcher app.

yes, i have the last version, but no 5 icons in a row...
nice clock/weather widget, what is it?

matiasggg said:
yes, i have the last version, but no 5 icons in a row...
nice clock/weather widget, what is it?
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I even changed roms, and I still have 5 icon rows...so I guess it could be the rom
Go Weather Ex, I am not a fan of them usually (due to their ads) but I couldn't pass it up...and its free.

I use Apex Launcher and can customize it many different ways.
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matiasggg said:
There are any posibility to have 5 icons row with the stock launcher? (like Nexus 6P, same resolution and screen size phone)
Thanks!
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Change screen DPI

ibila said:
Change screen DPI
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I change DPI, still grid on 4 icons

siqwell said:
I change DPI, still grid on 4 icons
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What number are you on? I'm on 560 DPI

Not sure how many places i've answered this question, but anyway...
- Remove LauncherConfig, which is locking rows to 4 icons from /system/app
- Reboot
- Wipe data on Google App
- Go to home screen
- You now have 5 icons per row
No need to use another launcher or Xposed apps or DPI changes if you're rooted and want to use GNL with 5 icon rows, as it should be.
It's incredibly dumb how Motorola is setting Google's launcher up that way with a phone that has a large display.
This works on Marshmallow too.

Thanks. This worked with out an issue.

Omg have hey still not changed this by default yet ?

Is there a way to do this without root?

davidfi01 said:
Is there a way to do this without root?
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You wont be able to edit the files with out having root access to do so.

Awesome! 5x5 Moto X Pure
Spasticdroid said:
Not sure how many places i've answered this question, but anyway...
- Remove LauncherConfig, which is locking rows to 4 icons from /system/app
- Reboot
- Wipe data on Google App
- Go to home screen
- You now have 5 icons per row
No need to use another launcher or Xposed apps or DPI changes if you're rooted and want to use GNL with 5 icon rows, as it should be.
It's incredibly dumb how Motorola is setting Google's launcher up that way with a phone that has a large display.
This works on Marshmallow too.
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You rock. This info should be in the FAQs at the top.
CAVEAT to the rest: This will reset all your screens to the default. Now's your chance to clean up all those friggin icons all over the place.

OnedeeTentee said:
You rock. This info should be in the FAQs at the top.
CAVEAT to the rest: This will reset all your screens to the default. Now's your chance to clean up all those friggin icons all over the place.
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I checked on system/app but I don't see launcherconfig. Is it inside of a folder? I'm using root explorer
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If you're rooted, why not just use this command in terminal?
pm disable com.motorola.launcherconfig
I haven't used it, but don't see why it wouldn't work. Also avoids any modification to system partition.

Alternate Launcher anyone, Pixel Launcher?

Has anyone got any alternative launcher working on this, I don't like the big icons filling up my home screen and the app drawer.
Thanks in advance.

I have Nova installed and running for the same reason but as soon as I try to add a widget it crashes and reverts to stock launcher

Why not try Nova Launcher it has a lot of customisation options.

First thing I did was install Nova Launcher

Nova for me and I have not experienced any crashes with widgets.

Just installed newest Version Nova Prime and Tesla Unread. Works perfect

Using Action Launcher .
originally using Action launcher using an imported layout and it kept crashing, but since resetting layout it seems stable.
worst thing about huawei phones is how they manage launchers and keep forcing their launcher on you

try also the microsoft launcher...it's amazing... used nova before but it's so cute and minimalistic. I like it.

I'm using nova (prime) and a android p theme. I had a crash when adding widgets once, but now it works fine.

Thanks for all the suggestions, I have a paid version of Nova but it never occurred to me to try it first. I am using it now and I like it, will give the Microsoft launcher a try also.
cheers

daz_2000 said:
Nova for me and I have not experienced any crashes with widgets.
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It seems to be Huawei specific widgets that bork Nova.
Weather Underground is fine, the Huawei Weather widget really upsets Nova, I've had to wipe the app data just to get Nova to restart
I've submitted a crash report and dump to Tesla Coil, so let's see what happens

I think for emui, you need to use third parties widgets if using nova launcher. Some of the emui widgets will cause crash....

anyone using magisk could try and flash the pixel launcher, thats what i plan to do once i get the phone
really love the pixel launcher on my 5T

Tiger33 said:
Using Action Launcher .
originally using Action launcher using an imported layout and it kept crashing, but since resetting layout it seems stable.
worst thing about huawei phones is how they manage launchers and keep forcing their launcher on you
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Hi there, did you do anything specific to get Action Launcher to work in the first place ? i installed and it just crashes immediately when i try and run it (i've sent a bug report to AL dev team).

No not really.
I reset cache
Completely uninstalled and then reinstalled
Been stable ever since
Sorry I can't be of any more help

I have been using Nova Launcher for years but have switched to Microsoft Launcher as of recent and I have to say that I really enjoy it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.launcher
P.S Just make sure to change default search engine from Bing back to Google and desactivate Cortana

orbital247 said:
Hi there, did you do anything specific to get Action Launcher to work in the first place ? i installed and it just crashes immediately when i try and run it (i've sent a bug report to AL dev team).
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Did the same for me no matter what I tried! Using nova now which I'm more than happy with

I use Lawnchair Launcher + Lawnfeed

Nova is pretty awful on the P20 looks like I will be changing away for the first time in years. Previously had on all my phones including the Pixel 2XL.
3rd party widgets just aren't auto-updating. Another Widget, was stuck on yesterdays event, Agenda Widget doesn't display my full calendar and just says "Loading" guess it's time to find something else. Looked at Microsoft Launcher but don't like the way you can't hide the homescreen indicator taking up space at the bottom and not looking clean like I want.

Pixel Launcher works great.

Question Launchers on GT S8

I have been trying out different launchers on my S8. Let me know of any you are familiar with or recommend.
Microsoft Launcher: I am currently using this and pleasantly surprised. I don't login to Microsoft because I don't use those services but see how it could be a good thing for those that do. MS has made a very nice tablet launcher experience. Even the MS Start news app works well enough as a Google Now replacement. I love to hide junk news sources I don't want to read, and can request fewer articles on topics of interest. There are ads in the feed but at least they are subtle and have an indicator so you don't have to click. Loading news is sometimes slow but it could be my connection.
Smart Launcher: looks great but it is a subscription service to reap the full functionality. I saw that they also use MS Smart but it doesn't seem to work well in that launcher. I can't get my head around the launcher subscription service revenue model, who would pay monthly, or the value add to do so.
Nova Launcher: my go-to on phones. However, the tablet experience isn't great. I couldn't figure out how to move the dock to the bottom in landscape.
Apex Launcher: seems nice but also has a subscription model. I didn't spend much time with it.
Action Launcher: another I used for years on phones before switching to Nova. I also couldn't figure out how to move the dock to the bottom in landscape.

If I'm gonna be completely honest, I'm super fond of the OneUI launcher and have been using that instead of Nova for a couple of weeks now. Samsung has made OneUI even better in the coming updates, so I just don't even change it now.

@SavXL I am in total agreement. OneUI 4.1 has evolved very well. I had a Samsung Note 9 with the earlier OUI versions which I didn't prefer over Nova.
As a launcher hopper, I will use the OneUI launcher again. Icon pack support would be a nice addition.

johninsf said:
@SavXL I am in total agreement. OneUI 4.1 has evolved very well. I had a Samsung Note 9 with the earlier OUI versions which I didn't prefer over Nova.
As a launcher hopper, I will use the OneUI launcher again. Icon pack support would be a nice addition.
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You can install custom icons for oneUI through galaxy Theme store.

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You can install custom icons for oneUI through galaxy Theme store.
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Indeed! I used Theme Store in the past.
From within OUI launcher icon preferences vs. theme store is my wish for installing icon packs. To be fair, Google's pixel launcher doesn't allow this either.

If you are really advanced, use total launcher and you won't regret it.. Basically you can re create any launcher with it. But 1st time you use it, it's look awful.. By far the most advanced launcher right now if you give it time to understand what you can do with it. But i still use nova when i want something simple to use it in 5 minutes.
Here an example of my theme i created in total launcher. I inspired from htc. (I could create exactly the same launcher htc had if i wanted):

johninsf said:
I have been trying out different launchers on my S8. Let me know of any you are familiar with or recommend.
Microsoft Launcher: I am currently using this and pleasantly surprised. I don't login to Microsoft because I don't use those services but see how it could be a good thing for those that do. MS has made a very nice tablet launcher experience. Even the MS Start news app works well enough as a Google Now replacement. I love to hide junk news sources I don't want to read, and can request fewer articles on topics of interest. There are ads in the feed but at least they are subtle and have an indicator so you don't have to click. Loading news is sometimes slow but it could be my connection.
Smart Launcher: looks great but it is a subscription service to reap the full functionality. I saw that they also use MS Smart but it doesn't seem to work well in that launcher. I can't get my head around the launcher subscription service revenue model, who would pay monthly, or the value add to do so.
Nova Launcher: my go-to on phones. However, the tablet experience isn't great. I couldn't figure out how to move the dock to the bottom in landscape.
Apex Launcher: seems nice but also has a subscription model. I didn't spend much time with it.
Action Launcher: another I used for years on phones before switching to Nova. I also couldn't figure out how to move the dock to the bottom in landscape.
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I'm using nova and the dock moves to the bottom. However, I am facing a weird issue where the status bar icons remain black on dark background.

lenana said:
I'm using nova and the dock moves to the bottom. However, I am facing a weird issue where the status bar icons remain black on dark background.
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Probably issue with nova launcher. Try using oneui and see if issue remains. If not, then issue is due to nova launcher

Jake.S said:
Probably issue with nova launcher. Try using oneui and see if issue remains. If not, then issue is due to nova launcher
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The problem persists even with one UI launcher. In fact I uninstalled nova.

lenana said:
The problem persists even with one UI launcher. In fact I uninstalled nova.
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Weird so far I have not gotten this issue on mine

Square Home Launcher by "ChYK the dev" works really well on larger devices. It's like a Windows 10 start menu look, but with lots of options. Takes a bit to get it customized just right, but well worth the time.

Jake.S said:
Weird so far I have not gotten this issue on mine
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I changed system font to roboto sans and the issue went away, back to nova launcher. Weird!

lenana said:
I changed system font to roboto sans and the issue went away, back to nova launcher. Weird!
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What method did you use to change to a non-default font? Did you just download it from Samsung's store?
This one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...v2-1-for-samsung-oneui-1-2-3-no-root.4195613/ ?

I've used Nova Launcher on all four of my tablets. going back to 2014. Just last month I upgraded from a Tab S4 to a Tab S8+.
Transferring was a breeze. The backup function worked like a charm -- all the settings were transferred from my old to the new tablet. And it copied the icons for all the apps -- even those not yet installed. Icon locations and grouped icons were all in the same place they were on the old tablet. Those icons for not installed apps were gray, and clicking them brings a message asking if you want to install them. If you say yes, it opens the app in the Play Store. Then after they install, it goes to full color. For sideloaded apps, just install and the icons turn active. This made it easy to install all the apps I had before. No missing aps.
As far as the launcher goes, all the settings, layouts and defaults are the same. I think the only thing I had to manually install widgets that were on apps that weren't yet installed when I restored the backup on the new tablet.
Joe

Niagara Launcher.
For me it's the best Launcher after testing so many alternatives.
Switched from Nova to Niagara and never looked back.