Is moto g5s plus 32bit or 64bit - Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers

I've heard people claim it's 64bit. zcpu isn't saying, and antutu benchmark says 64bit. Wikpedia and motorola/lenovo sites aren't saying. Who are saying it's 32bit and what's their source for this?
If it's true, does that mean that there has to be a full wipe of the apps/data during an upgrade to oreo, or would that only be true if the version of oreo was 64 bit, and that a 32bit upgrade from nougat to orea would be ok?
Please post a reasonable source when replying; i've seem talk either way, and i'm interested in THE answer, not AN answer.

Webern said:
I've heard people claim it's 64bit. zcpu isn't saying, and antutu benchmark says 64bit. Wikpedia and motorola/lenovo sites aren't saying. Who are saying it's 32bit and what's their source for this?
If it's true, does that mean that there has to be a full wipe of the apps/data during an upgrade to oreo, or would that only be true if the version of oreo was 64 bit, and that a 32bit upgrade from nougat to orea would be ok?
Please post a reasonable source when replying; i've seem talk either way, and i'm interested in THE answer, not AN answer.
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Our phones are 64 bit. Stock software runs in 32 bit mode for Sanders. Oreo custom roms are 64bit for our phone for what's currently available.
Sent from my XT1806 using Tapatalk

treyweez11 said:
Our phones are 64 bit. Stock software runs in 32 bit mode for Sanders. Oreo custom roms are 64bit for our phone for what's currently available.
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Ok, so there'd be no reason to wipe the user data even if we upgrade to a 64 bit version of Oreo, right? Data structures etc in saved data presumably don't need to be concerned with the architecture.

Webern said:
Ok, so there'd be no reason to wipe the user data even if we upgrade to a 64 bit version of Oreo, right? Data structures etc in saved data presumably don't need to be concerned with the architecture.
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it's a bad idea to switch rom without a full wipe, i never managed to get a working installation without that
if you wait for motorola's official update instead, that will probably work and keep your data

Webern said:
Ok, so there'd be no reason to wipe the user data even if we upgrade to a 64 bit version of Oreo, right? Data structures etc in saved data presumably don't need to be concerned with the architecture.
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That my friend is a food question. You should do clean flash any way when flashing different ROMs but you won't know until you try. Some people restore their data that way.
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My question is about the stock Oreo update only.

Webern said:
My question is about the stock Oreo update only.
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there is no stock oreo update at the moment, and nobody knows when it will be released
as it is not out yet, you question cannot have an univocal answer
apparently it will eventually be released as motorola declared about one year ago, but some people, including myself, start to doubt it
btw, normally, no further or previous actions (such as wiping data) are required when installing an official update
i'd rather back up all my files anyway before upgrading, just in case

ElKorki said:
there is no stock oreo update at the moment, and nobody knows when it will be released
as it is not out yet, you question cannot have an univocal answer
apparently it will eventually be released as motorola declared about one year ago, but some people, including myself, start to doubt it
btw, normally, no further or previous actions (such as wiping data) are required when installing an official update
i'd rather back up all my files anyway before upgrading, just in case
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I know that normally you don't have to wipe/reset the device when updating stock, and I know that normally you wipe when flashing different hobbyist roms, and I know there's no release date for Oreo yet. All great facts and I really appreciate the attempt at helping but none of this addresses my question. I'll try again as I obviously wasn't clear enough:
1) Is this device running 32 bit Nougat?
2) Does/Can there exist anywhere a 32 bit Oreo?
3) If the answers are Yes and No respectively, does that mean that in order to upgrade from 32 bit Nougat to 64 bit Oreo a full wipe of app and user data is required?

Webern said:
I know that normally you don't have to wipe/reset the device when updating stock, and I know that normally you wipe when flashing different hobbyist roms, and I know there's no release date for Oreo yet. All great facts and I really appreciate the attempt at helping but none of this addresses my question. I'll try again as I obviously wasn't clear enough:
1) Is this device running 32 bit Nougat?
2) Does/Can there exist anywhere a 32 bit Oreo?
3) If the answers are Yes and No respectively, does that mean that in order to upgrade from 32 bit Nougat to 64 bit Oreo a full wipe of app and user data is required?
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ok, i'll try to be more schematic
1) yes it is
2) yes, oreo can be 32 or 64 bit. ATM there are no 32 bit oreo custom roms for our device and nobody knows what version will be the official update
2b) all already oreo updated motorola phones run 64bit android, so probably also g5splus ore update will be 64bit
3) nobody can know the exact answer to your question because the update has not been released yet, so nobody could test it yet.
these are my thoughts on the subject:
- the architecture has nothing to do with data partition: only binaries are specific to a processor architecture, not data.
- a full wipe is strongly advised because between different roms there can have differences in folder structure.
- official update is expected to keep your data intact and to takes care of any possible data structure divergencies under the hood during installation
anyway, on lenovo official forum i found this thread
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G5S-Moto-G5S-Plus/Help-Android-Oreo-32-or-64-bit/td-p/3986111
which suggests that your fears are realistic
so i'm no longer very confident about the "taking care under the hood" possibility...

Here you go!
So, the processor is of x64 but stock latest Oreo rom is running on 32-bit mode.

Moto g5s plus is 32-bit
Yes Motorola Moto g5splus is a 32-bit. Checked now on antutu it does says 32-bit, one more proof is the fortnight installer. Fortnight you can't install on Moto g5splus and if you see installers requirements it says OS 64-bit so that's too a one more proof of that.

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Xposed from 4.4.4 to 5.1.1

Hi
I just upgraded my rooted nexus 5 from 4.4.4 to 5.1.1. I did it by restoring a nandroid I had made when I upgraded to 5.1.1 months ago before deciding to go back to kitkat.
Now I need to install the correct xposed framework for 5.1.1.
I've read the faq but am still confused. What exactly do I need to do?
Should I first uninstall the previous xposed? (I don't remember what I did before doing the nandroid backup).
Which files do I need for the nexus 5 and how do I install them?
Please help.
maybeme2 said:
Hi
I just upgraded my rooted nexus 5 from 4.4.4 to 5.1.1. I did it by restoring a nandroid I had made when I upgraded to 5.1.1 months ago before deciding to go back to kitkat.
Now I need to install the correct xposed framework for 5.1.1.
I've read the faq but am still confused. What exactly do I need to do?
Should I first uninstall the previous xposed? (I don't remember what I did before doing the nandroid backup).
Which files do I need for the nexus 5 and how do I install them?
Please help.
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Is it really hard to understand? Read post #2 very carefully (which you doesn't seem to have done). Check the table to identify the correct Xposed version for your device. Download the XposedInstaller_v3.0_alpha.apk from the official download thread by rovo89, in addition to the correct xposed-v*-sdk*-*.zip file. You have to boot into recovery (TWRP recommended) and flash the .zip file, then clear cache&dalvik afterwards and reboot. Install the .apk file and do a reboot once again. Done.
All older versions of Xposed (v2.7 or below) should of course be uninstalled first, as they are not compatible with Android Lollipop.
Well it is for me. Sorry.
My main question is which files to download and install.
The table mentions armv7, arm v8, etc. I have a nexus 5. Which one is the correct one for the nexus 5?
Installing the wrong one might be a minor thing for an expert but it would mess me up.
You would know what to download by learning about your own phone. Parts of Settings -> About Phone will give you some info (not all do) or download any system info app to get info.
You gotta know what you're running before doing anything else.
The more you know...
LG G3 D851, PAC-MAN ROM, Tapatalk 4.9.5
One would think so, but it doesn’t say so in my nexus 5 settings. See attached. I also went into the sub folders. Could not find it.
Actually I did all this before asking this question, including googling. It would have saved a lot of bandwidth and time if someone would just answer my simple question as to which files to download for the nexus 5. It is not so self-evident.
maybeme2 said:
One would think so, but it doesn’t say so in my nexus 5 settings. See attached. I also went into the sub folders. Could not find it.
Actually I did all this before asking this question, including googling. It would have saved a lot of bandwidth and time if someone would just answer my simple question as to which files to download for the nexus 5. It is not so self-evident.
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Let's take a look at post #2 again:
Q: Which is the right Xposed for me?
A: its all getting rather confusing.
Here's what you need to know...
Almost all android devices have an ARM based CPU. A small handful of those are 64 bit (ARM64), released this year. Obviously the ones that are not 64 bit are 32 bit.
All ARM version 7 CPUs are 32 bit. Although all ARM version 8 CPUs were designed as 64 bit, some only operate in a 32 bit mode.
A small set of android devices now run 32 bit Intel CPUs, referred to as x86.
What you first need to do is find out what CPU your phone has. If its intel x86, that's quite easy to find out by reading the specs.
For others, try this:
Google "your phone CPU? “ to get the CPU name.
Google "your CPU ARM Version?“ to get the ARM version.
Example. .
Google "Nexus 6 CPU" - answer Snapdragon 805
Google "snapdragon 805 ARM version?" - answer ARMv7
NOTE: For Snapdragon CPU's, check this Wikipedia article.
So, when following those instructions, searching for "Nexus 5 CPU“ results in "Snapdragon 800". When checking the linked Wikipedia article about Snapdragon processors, one can easily see that Snapdragon 800 processors are ARMv7. Done. With this information and the given table it should be quite simple to identify the correct files.
Thank you!

[Discussion / Poll] How successful was your unofficial upgrade to Nougat?

Hi! I am starting this discussion / poll in the hope that people will think twice before upgrading (unofficially) to Nougat. So far, what I see is 3 outcomes: 1) Device gets bricked 2) Unofficial Nougat has major bugs and people decide to downgrade back to Marshmallow 3) Upgrade is successful and user is pleased. I think that the latter scenario is actually quite rare and I feel for inexperienced people who brick their device. My question, before you try to upgrade unofficially: is it worth it?
People who brick their device doesn't follow the steps as there are written.
for example t hey flash the b370 version without the additional package and they reply 'bluetooth isnt working'
i encourage people upgrading to nougat because of the new ui, the better battery/ram management and the appearance of drawer
i rollbacked too many times to marshmallow, upgraded to nougat without any problem or brick, just follow the steps and the installation is successful.
StrangerWeather said:
Hi! I am starting this discussion / poll in the hope that people will think twice before upgrading (unofficially) to Nougat. So far, what I see is 3 outcomes: 1) Device gets bricked 2) Unofficial Nougat has major bugs and people decide to downgrade back to Marshmallow 3) Upgrade is successful and user is pleased. I think that the latter scenario is actually quite rare and I feel for inexperienced people who brick their device. My question, before you try to upgrade unofficially: is it worth it?
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I have two p9 lites,and they are both running on b370,updated trough hicare (1.99gb),and it works perfectly.Battery life,camera,bluetooth,everthing works amazingly compared to older nougat betas.
L-31 P9, Battery life is much better used to get only 4 hours on screen time watching videos now i get 6 with 25% left so easily 7 (my screen is always at 60% brightness) I'm not rooted because i didn't flash it after but i will root soon using a PC (I'm new to rooting (came from IPhone) yet i can easily do it probably because I'm a very techy person) anyway it seems faster my camera and everything works fine i used to get 1.8gb 4am max now i get 2.2 (with no apps running) also split screen works very well and is not laggy at all, one complain i have is the live wallpaper i used for some reason stoped working after i updated (black hole stock love wallpaper) i went into settings to re apply it as it's happened once before on MM but i said there was no wallpapers at all not even still ones, if someone could give me a link to the live wallpaper I'd really appreciate that but other than that no complaints at all it's much better than MM it even has a F.LUX like function built in to reduce blue light levels to help late at night so you're​ not wide awake , the pull down menu has Many and i mean Many more functions not just 5-10 there's probably 20+ and you can have more than 5 at one time, notifications are good and work well, everything seems overly big to me but thats probably because i used to have my phone on a 300 DPI before de-rooting and updating, like i was saying it has almost no drawbacks it's very polished If you install it correctly (one package before the other and it only takes 20 mins max and you data is not deleted i used tarp not the one from this forum but it works the same i got logged out of apps and that's all that's happend when i updated)
simo255 said:
People who brick their device doesn't follow the steps as there are written.
for example t hey flash the b370 version without the additional package and they reply 'bluetooth isnt working'
i encourage people upgrading to nougat because of the new ui, the better battery/ram management and the appearance of drawer
i rollbacked too many times to marshmallow, upgraded to nougat without any problem or brick, just follow the steps and the installation is successful.
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I agree 100%.
Upgrade to newer version of OS, official or unofficial, is one of the best thing of Android. But people need to be careful with their device, if it's not an OTA update obviously there are some steps to follow.. every device is different and just flashing whatever without attention may cause problem. Reading the steps to follow takes only 1 minute.
I'm on B132, is there a quick way to upgrade to B370? I've tried hi-care app but says no updates
Thanks
simo255 said:
People who brick their device doesn't follow the steps as there are written.
for example t hey flash the b370 version without the additional package and they reply 'bluetooth isnt working'
i encourage people upgrading to nougat because of the new ui, the better battery/ram management and the appearance of drawer
i rollbacked too many times to marshmallow, upgraded to nougat without any problem or brick, just follow the steps and the installation is successful.
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sirjohnrl said:
I have two p9 lites,and they are both running on b370,updated trough hicare (1.99gb),and it works perfectly.Battery life,camera,bluetooth,everthing works amazingly compared to older nougat betas.
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bghyt said:
L-31 P9, Battery life is much better used to get only 4 hours on screen time watching videos now i get 6 with 25% left so easily 7 (my screen is always at 60% brightness) I'm not rooted because i didn't flash it after but i will root soon using a PC (I'm new to rooting (came from IPhone) yet i can easily do it probably because I'm a very techy person) anyway it seems faster my camera and everything works fine i used to get 1.8gb 4am max now i get 2.2 (with no apps running) also split screen works very well and is not laggy at all, one complain i have is the live wallpaper i used for some reason stoped working after i updated (black hole stock love wallpaper) i went into settings to re apply it as it's happened once before on MM but i said there was no wallpapers at all not even still ones, if someone could give me a link to the live wallpaper I'd really appreciate that but other than that no complaints at all it's much better than MM it even has a F.LUX like function built in to reduce blue light levels to help late at night so you're​ not wide awake , the pull down menu has Many and i mean Many more functions not just 5-10 there's probably 20+ and you can have more than 5 at one time, notifications are good and work well, everything seems overly big to me but thats probably because i used to have my phone on a 300 DPI before de-rooting and updating, like i was saying it has almost no drawbacks it's very polished If you install it correctly (one package before the other and it only takes 20 mins max and you data is not deleted i used tarp not the one from this forum but it works the same i got logged out of apps and that's all that's happend when i updated)
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Potato997 said:
I agree 100%.
Upgrade to newer version of OS, official or unofficial, is one of the best thing of Android. But people need to be careful with their device, if it's not an OTA update obviously there are some steps to follow.. every device is different and just flashing whatever without attention may cause problem. Reading the steps to follow takes only 1 minute.
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I take your points but looking at the answers and questions forum again today, I still think the number of people bricking or downgrading is quite high. I love Nougat too, but I am warning newbies that it might be worth waiting for an official update or if not, concentrating on what you're doing. My penny's worth...
StrangerWeather said:
I take your points but looking at the answers and questions forum again today, I still think the number of people bricking or downgrading is quite high. I love Nougat too, but I am warning newbies that it might be worth waiting for an official update or if not, concentrating on what you're doing. My penny's worth...
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I updated to B370 but had to downgrade to mm because my camera wasn't working, but overall it was a great experience. Can't wait to get an update where my camera works.
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I see a lot of people have camera issue on l31 but for l21 everything seems to be OK. I have B370 on my l21 and I don't even think about rolling back to MM. Newest firmware is (at least in my opinion) stable and for now it runs flawlessly
JaccaPL said:
I see a lot of people have camera issue on l31 but for l21 everything seems to be OK. I have B370 on my l21 and I don't even think about rolling back to MM. Newest firmware is (at least in my opinion) stable and for now it runs flawlessly
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+1
I have not managed to update my phone to Nougat. Everytime i try to use firmware finder or Hi suite , it keeps downloading the 1,24GB package and not the 1,99GB so i end up with a generic a15 Test Key phone
kourkoubas1981 said:
I have not managed to update my phone to Nougat. Everytime i try to use firmware finder or Hi suite , it keeps downloading the 1,24GB package and not the 1,99GB so i end up with a generic a15 Test Key phone
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Try the TWRP method.
zgomot said:
Try the TWRP method.
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I think that you must be bootloader unlock and rooted to use TWRP method . Too complicated for me :/
I have L21C900B170 after the fifth or sixth failure to go to 370 .
Whatever I try through Firmware Finder or HiSuite it keeps downloading the 1,24GB file and not the 1,99 Gb upgrade so I always and up with ND90 test key .
Something is blocking it but no one knows what
kourkoubas1981 said:
I think that you must be bootloader unlock and rooted to use TWRP method . Too complicated for me :/
I have L21C900B170 after the fifth or sixth failure to go to 370 .
Whatever I try through Firmware Finder or HiSuite it keeps downloading the 1,24GB file and not the 1,99 Gb upgrade so I always and up with ND90 test key .
Something is blocking it but no one knows what
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It's really not all that difficult and there are several guides around here. Unlocking the bootloader and rooting MM is pretty much without risks. I'd say go for it.
kourkoubas1981 said:
I think that you must be bootloader unlock and rooted to use TWRP method . Too complicated for me :/
I have L21C900B170 after the fifth or sixth failure to go to 370 .
Whatever I try through Firmware Finder or HiSuite it keeps downloading the 1,24GB file and not the 1,99 Gb upgrade so I always and up with ND90 test key .
Something is blocking it but no one knows what
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First this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/root-root-recovery-bootloader-unlock-t3457564
Then this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/nougat-official-firmware-t3512932
Looks like there is a majority of successful upgrades after all!
Well I did an upgrade and although at first I thought I 'borked it' - the build I have is 'NRD90M test-keys'
But I have to say after manually installing google keyboard and getting a few play store updates installed, it feels like an absolute rocket compared to the old EE B132 version
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First this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/root-root-recovery-bootloader-unlock-t3457564
Then this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/nougat-official-firmware-t3512932
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OK i managed to do the unlocking of bootloader - root but the first try of upgrading went me again to N90RDM test keys something :/
During the installation of the b370 files throught TWRP i got a message that there is /system
kourkoubas1981 said:
OK i managed to do the unlocking of bootloader - root but the first try of upgrading went me again to N90RDM test keys something :/
During the installation of the b370 files throught TWRP i got a message that there is /system
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Did you flash both files?
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Did you flash both files?
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If he made the same mistake as me then he didn't flash the second file, doh!:silly:
i'm thinking of trying to get twrp back on and having another go......

Most stable Custom ROM upgrade and HOWTO for Droid 4

Hi everyone:
I'm an ex IT tech. but don't know that much about smartphone tech. I say that because I'll follow along quickly if people can use metaphors that relate back to PCs. I've used Linux a bit but am not a Linux expert.
I have a Droid 4 with Jelly Bean on it. I'd like to upgrade it to whatever is the most stable later custom version of Android. Do people recommend CyanogenMod 12? Some LineageOS version? Stability and having everything work as much as possible is what's most important to me. Speed would be a bonus, but it not as important as stability/functionality.
I've done the following to prepare for this:
-Taken a screenshot and put it on my PC to keep track of which version of Android I have.
-Downloaded SafeStrap 3.75, but don't know if I have the right version for this phone. Somewhere I saw something about
a special version for the Droid 4.
-I'm not sure which gapps version to download. Will later versions have more apps but be more likely to
have compatibility issues with an older version of Android?
-I know how to get into developer mode
-I know how to get into Fastboot mode
Any help would be appreciated.
Shplad said:
Hi everyone:
I'm an ex IT tech. but don't know that much about smartphone tech. I say that because I'll follow along quickly if people can use metaphors that relate back to PCs. I've used Linux a bit but am not a Linux expert.
I have a Droid 4 with Jelly Bean on it. I'd like to upgrade it to whatever is the most stable later custom version of Android. Do people recommend CyanogenMod 12? Some LineageOS version? Stability and having everything work as much as possible is what's most important to me. Speed would be a bonus, but it not as important as stability/functionality.
I've done the following to prepare for this:
-Taken a screenshot and put it on my PC to keep track of which version of Android I have.
-Downloaded SafeStrap 3.75, but don't know if I have the right version for this phone. Somewhere I saw something about
a special version for the Droid 4.
-I'm not sure which gapps version to download. Will later versions have more apps but be more likely to
have compatibility issues with an older version of Android?
-I know how to get into developer mode
-I know how to get into Fastboot mode
Any help would be appreciated.
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see the index for correct safestrap version, 3.75 is latest, but you need the Droid 4 one
[INDEX] Development Motorola Droid 4
GApps are android version specific, opengapps.org are good
I haven't used the Droid 4 much since cm11, it's likely still a good option
sd_shadow's How-To Videos for Droid 4
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Thanks, however I was looking for something a little more newibe-friendly. There are literally dozens and dozens of pages to read. On top of that, the link to the SafeStrap is dead, and there are circular links, all of which appear to go that dead link. As well, the page to download the patch to enable the GSM on CDMA Global phones also has dead links.
Nothing simpler?
Shplad said:
Thanks, however I was looking for something a little more newibe-friendly. There are literally dozens and dozens of pages to read. On top of that, the link to the SafeStrap is dead, and there are circular links, all of which appear to go that dead link. As well, the page to download the patch to enable the GSM on CDMA Global phones also has dead links.
Nothing simpler?
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The link for safe strap is not dead there are two versions. One from stargo and the other is a modified safe strap for unused partitions redone by some one else. You need to look in the correct posts and thread. Here is the download: http://www.internauta37.altervista....afestrap-maserati-v3.75-unused-partitions.apk
As far as for gsm keep looking you'll probully find something. I can't help you with that because I never needed to use but it shouldn't be to hard to do or figure out.
As far as wich rom you want to use just try a few different ones and see wich one you prefer to use as a daily driver.
Shplad said:
Thanks, however I was looking for something a little more newibe-friendly. There are literally dozens and dozens of pages to read. On top of that, the link to the SafeStrap is dead, and there are circular links, all of which appear to go that dead link. As well, the page to download the patch to enable the GSM on CDMA Global phones also has dead links.
Nothing simpler?
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Hi Shplad,
It all seems a bit overwhelming at first, but there isn't that much to it really. So, if you've got some IT experience, I'm sure you'll be fine. I always use the latest version (out of curiosity), but from what I've read, CM11 is considered pretty stable, but 12 and 13 are good too. And you'll probably find you don't need the GSM patch as it'll just work automatically - I think it was required in CM12 at one point, but that might be fixed now.
You haven't mentioned rooting. If you haven't already done that, you may as well get that done first, and it's covered in the pages that sd_shadow linked to. And I had a quick look at the links to safestrap in the pages that sd_shadow linked to, and they all seemed ok to me (as OGdroidster has just said also). You just need to make sure you've got the one with 'maserati' in the filename.
So, (from memory - could be wrong), you just need to:
- root the phone
- download your chosen rom and gapps
- install safestrap
- in safestrap install file system then boot into recovery mode
- create yourself a slot in the boot options
- make sure your new slot is the active one (it tells you at the top)
- install your chosen rom and gapps in the install section
- reboot
And if you get stuck, you could just ask, and I'm sure someone will answer pretty quickly.
Good luck
So, which versions of Android are CM11 and CM12? Can anyone else chime in and let me know if CM12 is better or more stable than CM11?
It turns out I could not download the Safestrap because my firewall was blocking some advertising/metric site which was required to go that page. Got it now.
Not sure what the GSM code you refer to is for. Will the upgraded phone with CMxx not work by default on GSM networks, or is something different?
Thanks
moodroid said:
Hi Shplad,
It all seems a bit overwhelming at first, but there isn't that much to it really. So, if you've got some IT experience, I'm sure you'll be fine. I always use the latest version (out of curiosity), but from what I've read, CM11 is considered pretty stable, but 12 and 13 are good too. And you'll probably find you don't need the GSM patch as it'll just work automatically - I think it was required in CM12 at one point, but that might be fixed now.
You haven't mentioned rooting. If you haven't already done that, you may as well get that done first, and it's covered in the pages that sd_shadow linked to. And I had a quick look at the links to safestrap in the pages that sd_shadow linked to, and they all seemed ok to me (as OGdroidster has just said also). You just need to make sure you've got the one with 'maserati' in the filename.
So, (from memory - could be wrong), you just need to:
- root the phone
- download your chosen rom and gapps
- install safestrap
- in safestrap install file system then boot into recovery mode
- create yourself a slot in the boot options
- make sure your new slot is the active one (it tells you at the top)
- install your chosen rom and gapps in the install section
- reboot
And if you get stuck, you could just ask, and I'm sure someone will answer pretty quickly.
Good luck
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Shplad said:
So, which versions of Android are CM11 and CM12? Can anyone else chime in and let me know if CM12 is better or more stable than CM11?
It turns out I could not download the Safestrap because my firewall was blocking some advertising/metric site which was required to go that page. Got it now.
Not sure what the GSM code you refer to is for. Will the upgraded phone with CMxx not work by default on GSM networks, or is something different?
Thanks
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CM11 is KitKat (4.4), CM12 is Lollipop (5), CM13 is Marshmallow (6) and CM14 is Nougat (7).
I was referring to the GSM patch (that you queried above). What I was saying, was that in most versions of CM, GSM automatically works, so you won't need to apply the patch. But if you did have a problem, the links seem to work fine to me.
If I was you, I'd try out a few versions and find which version you prefer, as I don't think anyone will be able to tell you which is 'best'. I would have thought you'd be fine with 11, 12 or 13 though, and because you can have multiple roms installed with safestrap, you could install all 3 if you wanted!
Thanks. I guess I wasn't aware that you could use any CM. I thought only 11 or 12 could work properly on a Droid 4. So, any of those ROMs might work?
Also, at what stage do you install the GSM patch if it is necessary?
moodroid said:
CM11 is KitKat (4.4), CM12 is Lollipop (5), CM13 is Marshmallow (6) and CM14 is Nougat (7).
I was referring to the GSM patch (that you queried above). What I was saying, was that in most versions of CM, GSM automatically works, so you won't need to apply the patch. But if you did have a problem, the links seem to work fine to me.
If I was you, I'd try out a few versions and find which version you prefer, as I don't think anyone will be able to tell you which is 'best'. I would have thought you'd be fine with 11, 12 or 13 though, and because you can have multiple roms installed with safestrap, you could install all 3 if you wanted!
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Thanks. I guess I wasn't aware that you could use any CM. I thought only 11 or 12 could work properly on a Droid 4. So, any of those ROMs might work?
Also, at what stage do you install the GSM patch if it is necessary?
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As far as I understand it (which could be totally wrong), 11 and 12 are no longer being developed and will only receive security updates, so from that point of view, I guess they will be more stable. But 13 and 14 will work, but there may be the odd issue here and there (particularly with 14 which is still quite new). You'd have to have a quick scan through the comments to see if there's anything that's like to be a problem for you.
With reagrds to GSM, I should just try it and see if it works to begin with. If it doesn't, then download the patch, reboot, go into safestrap, install the zip then reboot.
Hi,
If you are going to use a ROM with ART (Lollipop CM12x and above) Do not use CM12. It is old, outdated, and laggy. CM13 (LineageOS 13) provides a superior experience. Once LOS 14.1 becomes official for our devices, I would highly recommend upgrading to it, as it provides superior memory management.
Sent from my Motorola Droid RAZR using XDA Labs
Wow, this is a lot to take in. Thanks. So, I don't quite understand the repercussions. Once I root, does that mean any ROM OS that boots is somewhat more vulnerable, cause it's like being logged on as root in Linux, or does it depend which ROM I'm using or something else?
Bobcus Leper said:
Hi,
If you are going to use a ROM with ART (Lollipop CM12x and above) Do not use CM12. It is old, outdated, and laggy. CM13 (LineageOS 13) provides a superior experience. Once LOS 14.1 becomes official for our devices, I would highly recommend upgrading to it, as it provided superior memory management.
Sent from my Motorola Droid RAZR using XDA Labs
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Okay, I figured out after my last post that root status depends on which ROM you are running, and of course installing a ROM without root status would put you back to unrooted status.
I downloaded Lineage OS 13 and verified the MD5SUM. I rooted the phone using Shadow's video.
Now I want to make an image of my NAND or have some other method of restoring the stock ROM before I install a new ROM. At what stage in the process do I do that and what is the safest tool / method to do that? RSDLite? Adding another ROM slot and using Nandroid backup?
Awaiting anxiously...
Alright, I learned from Googling that RSDLite can restore a ROM to the phone directly from your PC.
Does that wipe out any upgraded, more modern ROMS that I put on the phone, such as Lineage OS 13? Is it like having multiple partitions or hard drives on a PC?
How safe is the RSDLite procedure? Can someone explain the pros/cons of doing it that way versus (as I understand it) having 2 ROMs on the NAND available? I see a lot of HOWTOs, but very few explanations/diagrams/theory. If I could relate this back to PCs, I'd be able to understand better.
Shplad said:
Alright, I learned from Googling that RSDLite can restore a ROM to the phone directly from your PC.
Does that wipe out any upgraded, more modern ROMS that I put on the phone, such as Lineage OS 13? Is it like having multiple partitions or hard drives on a PC?
How safe is the RSDLite procedure? Can someone explain the pros/cons of doing it that way versus (as I understand it) having 2 ROMs on the NAND available? I see a lot of HOWTOs, but very few explanations/diagrams/theory. If I could relate this back to PCs, I'd be able to understand better.
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As far as I understand it, and again, this could be wrong, using RSDLite is usually a last resort in the unlikely event that you've completely messed up your phone. You will lose everything, and your phone will back to how it was when you bought it. I've never needed to use RSDLite myself, but from what I've read, it's a pretty reliable way to get your phone working again. As long as you follow all the instructions, and install CM (LOS) 13 into another slot, it's very unlikely that you'll damage your original stock rom and you'll still be able to boot into if ever you need to. Hopefully, someone who knows more about it will comment also...
I got Safestrap 3.75 special version for unused partitions installed. I didn't realize it allows you to make TWRP ROM backups.
I made a backup of the stock ROM. The first time I did that, I got an error stating it couldn't find or access /boot.
Strangely, the second time I tried, it seemed to work fine.
I copied the folder with the stock ROM backup to my PC, just in case. I managed to flash with Lineage OS 13. It booted fine, but I forgot to select the Gapps zip as well. It does not appear to be rooted after bootup.
1. Do I need to reinstall Lineage 13 or is there way to install the apps without reinstalling Lineage?
2. What is the normal state of this ROM? I'm not sure if I have to root Lineage 13. If I don't enable root, will I be unable to run TWRP recovery and add the Gapps zip file and reinstall? I don't want to be stuck with a successful Lineage install and no apps. I'd find another way to install the apps, but I'm guessing you can't without the apps themselves, no?
Help!
Okay, I figured out how to install just gapps 5.1-2015-05-23-24 . However, during configuration, I cannot get the phone to connect to gmail via WiFi (I don't have a data plan).
"Validating Server Settings...
Couldn't open connection to server."
I see other people had this in other version of Android. Is this a particular problem in Lineage 13? Any solutions known?
...AAAANDDD Google Play Services has closed.
Hmm...this does not seem very stable at all. Has anyone actually tried Lineage 13 on this phone or was it just a guess that it might work?
EDIT:
I tried these suggestions, just in case.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/ACSvDiQoufI
Now, I'm getting the error:
"Problem with account setup
Username or password is incorrect"
Google Play Services keeps closing. Should I uninstall the gapps and install a more compatible one? I think network connectivity is not stable.
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Hmm...this does not seem very stable at all. Has anyone actually tried Lineage 13 on this phone or was it just a guess that it might work?
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Hi. I don't use gapps, and I'm uisng LOS 14 myself. But there's 57 pages of comments for LOS 13, so I think it's fair to say people have tried it! Now you've got it installed, you could post in the LOS 13 thread, and ask people which version of gapps they are using.
P.S. The first post in the Droid 4 LOS 13 thread appears to suggest using OpenGApps and has some details on how to install, or you could read through that thread for other tips.
moodroid:
Thanks, but on which website? There are quite a few Lineage OS forums.
moodroid said:
Hi. I don't use gapps, and I'm uisng LOS 14 myself. But there's 57 pages of comments for LOS 13, so I think it's fair to say people have tried it! Now you've got it installed, you could post in the LOS 13 thread, and ask people which version of gapps they are using.
P.S. The first post in the Droid 4 LOS 13 thread appears to suggest using OpenGApps and has some details on how to install, or you could read through that thread for other tips.
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moodroid:
Thanks, but on which website? There are quite a few Lineage OS forums.
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I meant on this website. In the 'Droid 4 Android Development' section (https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development), there a thread for each of the roms. The one for CM (LOS) 13 is https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development/cm13-0-marshmallow-unofficial-builds-t3270938
moo:
Thanks for that. I didn't post there earlier because I thought it was only for developer reports of bugs, and my coding skills are exactly zero. Should I wait to see what happens in that other thread and not post back here until I hear something from there?

Updating to a different firmaware. Anything to be aware of?

Hello!
My Moto X2 currently runs a firmware called VICTARA and Andorid 6. I looked for that here and I see it was built on Cyanogen Mod. The thing is I also read here that newer builds are made in Lineage OS. I'd be upgrading from Android 6 to Android 7.
I don't know if the process is the same as it used to be when I updated my phone back in 2015 with that Victara firmware. I mean, do I just have to run CMD and tell it to flash? I'm asking because I really don't want to brick my phone
And another short question: in Gapps webpage do I choose ARM 64 or ARM?
Thank you

Downgrade without data loss?

Hi all,
Is it possible to downgrade to previous version, without data loss. Because battery backup is worst. Before this new update, I used get 3 days backup. now its less than 2 days. I am not a gamer.
srk_srinivas said:
Hi all,
Is it possible to downgrade to previous version, without data loss. Because battery backup is worst. Before this new update, I used get 3 days backup. now its less than 2 days. I am not a gamer.
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I can't say for sure as I've never done it.... But here's the info from Asus website
'Version Android 10 downgrade to P (WW) 2020/03/162.22 GBytes
ROG Phone II Software downgrade from Android 10 to Android 9 for WW SKU only*
*Please follow steps and ensure to backup data before downgrade.
Steps of Update:
1.Download the patch pack.
2.The system will detect new firmware.
3.After executing the patch, the system will reboot once.
4.When the system boot on, the firmware version will be recover to Android P.
*How to know the device model?
Path: Settings->About-> Model number
Example: ASUS PadFone2
**How to know the device software version?
Path: Settings->About-> software information->Build number
Example: CHT_PadFone2-user-10.4.17.15-UpdateLauncher
*System upgrade may cause part of data missing, please backup your important data before system upgrading.'
It's not very clear about whether you will be factory reset or not - it just says you may lose part of your data. Backup as much as you can 1st.
However, 1) are you on the latest 2009.49 build? 2) If you are already, how long is it since you updated? 3) Also, are you rooted with magisk? 4) Although you used to get 3 days use, do you know how much screen-on-time and idle time approximately that you used to do over those 3 days?
1)+2) If you have only just updated, you need to allow a good few days for the update to 'settle' in. Then judge the battery life once it's settled. For me (I also don't really game - I only play non-demanding Bike Race several times per day) I'm getting a pretty consistent 9 hours screen-on-time with wifi/bluetooth/data etc always enabled and no extra battery tweaks, which I think is pretty good.
3) If you are rooted with magisk/magisk manager installed, check under magisk hide that Google services isn't hidden. This can cause a certain degree of extra consumption, probably not a vast amount, but it's for sure higher with Google stuff hidden.
Use raw file with pc
But backup always recommended!
Thanks for the replies. I will try and let you know.
srk_srinivas said:
Thanks for the replies. I will try and let you know.
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If you use the downgrade to pie method provided by asus it will format your data.
shahram Ali said:
If you use the downgrade to pie method provided by asus it will format your data.
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Thanks for the advise, I will try next week after taking backup. Is there any alternative way to downgrade?
srk_srinivas said:
Thanks for the advise, I will try next week after taking backup. Is there any alternative way to downgrade?
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Just download the raw(stock rom without data wiping) Version that you want to downgrade and all will be good hopefully thanks to asus that we ain't stuck at new bootloaders xD
shahram Ali said:
Just download the raw(stock rom without data wiping) Version that you want to downgrade and all will be good hopefully thanks to asus that we ain't stuck at new bootloaders xD
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Hi, may I ask where did you download the down grade RAW firmware without wiping data? I also need it. Which versions did you down grade from and to? Thanks.

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