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Android 4.2 and how I feel about it

Google’s latest Android version 4.2 may not be a major upgrade from 4.1, but it sure does come with unfinished work and some improvements to be done. This update feels like it’s in beta with random restarts and lag issues. Here’s my list of improvements that I’d love to see in 4.2.1 - Warning: Some of you may not agree with the following.
Notification Bar + Profile Bar:
The new Notification Bar brings some improvements to 4.2, with the setting shortcut placed nicely on the right corner for easy thumb access; instead of on the middle-left, like on 4.1
But, there’s a missing link to the 2nd Notification Bar; instead of being toggle buttons, it’s just another shortcut to the settings page. Why give us more shortcut icons?
Lock Screen + Widgets:
Yet another slight improvement. With the changes to the Roboto font and alignment of your security pin-box, the system seems to look sleek, professional and welcoming, rather than the clunky look and feel of 4.1
But, the new Lock Screen Widget feature in 4.2 redefines everything I said above, this makes the once welcoming screen look childish, unattractive and cluttered. Sure, it’s fun to play around with for awhile, but it kills the purpose of a “Lock screen”, and that's a bad thing.
Image: http://bit.ly/ScjVr2
Camera + Photo-Sphere:
The updated camera UI is stunning! With the new setting chooser, it’s easy to access everything with one hand, unlike the old messy UI where everything was scattered everywhere.
But, this new Photo-Sphere functionality is just another gimmick, waste of space and effort. Sure, people will use it for the first 2 weeks, but eventually they’ll move on to taking “regular” photos like “regular” people; instead of lining up blue dots into a Pokeball (If you don’t see a Pokeball, I feel for your childhood).
Image: http://bit.ly/RRuoIv
Play Store + Extra Download Page:
What’s up with this extra download page? How about we focus on “Google Playground” where I can save my games and not lose them when I have to factory reset? Or challenge my friends on Google+ with scoreboards? Oh yeah, the store needs a major design overhaul, like... right now!
Image: http://bit.ly/QWcmaU

7-down said:
Notification Bar + Profile Bar:
... instead of being toggle buttons, it’s just another shortcut to the settings page. Why give us more shortcut icons?
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Same thougths here. I miss the TapToToggle-HoldToEnter-functionality of the S III
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On the Nexus 7 with 4.2 you can choose which view you pull down.
Pull down in left part => Notifications
Pull dwon in right part => Settings
That would be nice on the Nexus 4 too
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Lock Screen + Widgets:
But, the new Lock Screen Widget feature in 4.2 redefines everything I said above, this makes the once welcoming screen look childish, unattractive and cluttered. Sure, it’s fun to play around with for awhile, but it kills the purpose of a “Lock screen”, and that's a bad thing.
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I like the fast camera access. Swipe to left, take photo :good:
But the Lockscreen-Widgets are lame. The "FastEnter"-Apps like in AOSP/CM10 or Stock SIII are much better
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Camera + Photo-Sphere:
... blue dots into a Pokeball (If you don’t see a Pokeball, I feel for your childhood).
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:laugh: You made my day :good:
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Play Store + Extra Download Page:
What’s up with this extra download page? How about we focus on “Google Playground” where I can save my games and not lose them when I have to factory reset? Or challenge my friends on Google+ with scoreboards? Oh yeah, the store needs a major design overhaul, like... right now!
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100% agree. Google-Cloud for save files, app settings, etc would be very nice

I felt like Lockscreen widgets and quick settings are responses to what the community are customizing. You have a wildly popular app called WidgetLockr, and all skins are placing toggles on the status bar. I can see how they are not willing to copy what others did directly but really, those are the best solutions out there. So I'm still gonna root, install widgetlockr and power toggle for those stuff.

xXSturmiXx said:
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On the Nexus 7 with 4.2 you can choose which view you pull down.
Pull down in left part => Notifications
Pull dwon in right part => Settings
That would be nice on the Nexus 4 too
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Swipe down with one finger -> notifications
Swipe down with two fingers -> settings

xXSturmiXx said:
:laugh: You made my day :good:
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HA! It's true... I cannot unsee it, now lol

Lockscreen widgets aren't my type of thing, like OP said, it'll be fun for a few weeks then just get boring, never used lockscreen "widgets" that came with sense either. I also favor 4.1's status bar+toggles, compared to 4.2 which is slightly still an attractive approach to switching things up(or on...pun intended) and making more room.
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Honestly one of the little things that drives me crazy is the rotation of the camera. I don't see why the whole screen has to rotate to landscape when you turn the phone. Why can't just the onscreen controls rotate instead of the whole frame? Seems pointless but then again its a small insignificant issue.
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babalonius508 said:
Honestly one of the little things that drives me crazy is the rotation of the camera. I don't see why the whole screen has to rotate to landscape when you turn the phone. Why can't just the onscreen controls rotate instead of the whole frame? Seems pointless but then again its a small insignificant issue.
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Yeah that was tripping me out as well...it was better when only the icons rotated.
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I'm not sure how lock screen widgets defeat the whole purpose of the lock screen? The whole point of the lock screen to me is a buffer screen that stops you from accidentally activating your phone by making you perform specific actions on the screen. The new lock screen still does that quite well.
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Chrono_Tata said:
I'm not sure how lock screen widgets defeat the whole purpose of the lock screen? The whole point of the lock screen to me is a buffer screen that stops you from accidentally activating your phone by making you perform specific actions on the screen. The new lock screen still does that quite well.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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Nah, the lockscreen widgets allow you to look-but-no-touch. The appeal is still there, in that you cant accidentally mess things up with screen widgets in your pocket because they require unlock before you can mess with them.
Except for the camera, but there isn't a whole lot of bad that could be done with that.

xXSturmiXx said:
I like the fast camera access. Swipe to left, take photo :good:
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Tell me what you had to do on lockscreen to take picture on 4.1?

7-down said:
Google’s latest Android version 4.2 may not be a major upgrade from 4.1, but it sure does come with unfinished work and some improvements to be done. This update feels like it’s in beta with random restarts and lag issues. Here’s my list of improvements that I’d love to see in 4.2.1 - Warning: Some of you may not agree with the following.
Notification Bar + Profile Bar:
The new Notification Bar brings some improvements to 4.2, with the setting shortcut placed nicely on the right corner for easy thumb access; instead of on the middle-left, like on 4.1
But, there’s a missing link to the 2nd Notification Bar; instead of being toggle buttons, it’s just another shortcut to the settings page. Why give us more shortcut icons?
Lock Screen + Widgets:
Yet another slight improvement. With the changes to the Roboto font and alignment of your security pin-box, the system seems to look sleek, professional and welcoming, rather than the clunky look and feel of 4.1
But, the new Lock Screen Widget feature in 4.2 redefines everything I said above, this makes the once welcoming screen look childish, unattractive and cluttered. Sure, it’s fun to play around with for awhile, but it kills the purpose of a “Lock screen”, and that's a bad thing.
Image: http://bit.ly/ScjVr2
Camera + Photo-Sphere:
The updated camera UI is stunning! With the new setting chooser, it’s easy to access everything with one hand, unlike the old messy UI where everything was scattered everywhere.
But, this new Photo-Sphere functionality is just another gimmick, waste of space and effort. Sure, people will use it for the first 2 weeks, but eventually they’ll move on to taking “regular” photos like “regular” people; instead of lining up blue dots into a Pokeball (If you don’t see a Pokeball, I feel for your childhood).
Image: http://bit.ly/RRuoIv
Play Store + Extra Download Page:
What’s up with this extra download page? How about we focus on “Google Playground” where I can save my games and not lose them when I have to factory reset? Or challenge my friends on Google+ with scoreboards? Oh yeah, the store needs a major design overhaul, like... right now!
Image: http://bit.ly/QWcmaU
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Agree 100% with all. Can you talk to the Common Sense department at Google and get this stuff worked on

crawlgsx said:
Agree 100% with all. Can you talk to the Common Sense department at Google and get this stuff worked on
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I also posted this on Google+, hopefully Google sees this
2nd thought... I don't think they'll care lol. :silly:

7-down said:
(If you don’t see a Pokeball, I feel for your childhood).
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I'm 31 years old; I understand references to Snarf and Optimus Prime. Poke-whatever did not factor into my childhood.
EDIT: I guess I should actually post something constructive:
- I also wish the second notification bar was more than just shortcuts. Why aren't they buttons? I put the Power Control widget back on my phone for the first time since in quite a while
- I don't ever imagine using the lockscreen widgets; at least not the ones that are available now. I absolutely despise the bolded first digit in the clock widget. Despise it. It looks ugly and I can't understand why they did that. It's stupid and I'm getting mad just thinking about it again. F***.
- Haven't tried photosphere yet; it's not something that I think about
- Extra download page...I dunno, something else I haven't thought about at all.
My own thing:
- Swiping keyboard is the bees knees.

7-down said:
Camera + Photo-Sphere:
The updated camera UI is stunning! With the new setting chooser, it’s easy to access everything with one hand, unlike the old messy UI where everything was scattered everywhere.
But, this new Photo-Sphere functionality is just another gimmick, waste of space and effort. Sure, people will use it for the first 2 weeks, but eventually they’ll move on to taking “regular” photos like “regular” people; instead of lining up blue dots into a Pokeball (If you don’t see a Pokeball, I feel for your childhood).
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For me this is no gimmick at all. I frequently have to resort to drawings and painstaking email descriptions to describe physical spaces in my line of work. As imperfect as Photo Sphere is at the moment, it's a quantum leap ahead in terms of camera usefulness for me. It's quite literally a 'worth a thousand words' thing.

The only lockscreen widget I have is a clock from HD widgets that looks nicer than the stock one and shows battery %. Other than that I don't see much point to it.
The settings pulldown on the n7 did annoy me at first as it is positioned where I would normally have pulled down for notifications. I wish it would toggle WiFi/Bluetooth rather than going to settings. Maybe short press to toggle long press for settings.
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Fully agree on the notification toggles and lockscreen.
Notification toggles should work like they do in CM, press to toggle, long-press to visit the settings.
Without getting into a debate on the usefulness of lockscreen widgets, the design and layout of the lockscreen is convoluted and messy. Definitely needs to be refined.
Two places to swipe from (Lock and Home button)
Interface to add widgets is odd, why do they appear small on the clock screen first after they are added?
Way too much flashing with the white boxes, feels like it's perpetually in an edit/drag to adjust mode
I say at a minimum, drop the soft-nav keys on the lockscreen and return to have Google now being a swipe upwards and kill the flashing white boxes.

babalonius508 said:
Honestly one of the little things that drives me crazy is the rotation of the camera. I don't see why the whole screen has to rotate to landscape when you turn the phone. Why can't just the onscreen controls rotate instead of the whole frame? Seems pointless but then again its a small insignificant issue.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium HD app
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+1
Harry Pothead said:
Swipe down with one finger -> notifications
Swipe down with two fingers -> settings
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I don't want to use two hands

Harry Pothead said:
Swipe down with one finger -> notifications
Swipe down with two fingers -> settings
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Life feels good again. Thanks bro!

I honestly feel that Google did send this update out as an almost unfinished product, and will be fixing this later. Only question is, how long will it take. Those with Galaxy Nexus', are updates pretty frequent?

First thoughts on X4 Pie

So I was curious what people thought after they got their Pie updates? (I'm still waiting)
-Is it faster/slower?
-Any change in battery life?
-Thoughts on Google gestures?
-Any other thoughts?

sleze said:
So I was curious what people thought after they got their Pie updates? (I'm still waiting)
-Is it faster/slower?
-Any change in battery life?
-Thoughts on Google gestures?
-Any other thoughts?
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Same speed for me.
Battery seems the same.
Gestures are worthless.

sleze said:
So I was curious what people thought after they got their Pie updates? (I'm still waiting)
-Is it faster/slower?
-Any change in battery life?
-Thoughts on Google gestures?
-Any other thoughts?
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Seems about the same speed/battery life for me.
The recent apps view is a big step backwards to me, the side scrolling cards is not as easy nor helpful as the vertical view was. I still think Samsung's multiwindow mode is better than Google's and I do not think 9.0 improved it.
Adding a dark theme is nice, but implementation is inconsistent. I am surprised basic things like the settings pages do not use it. But it is nice for the keyboard, messages, and phone.
I'd agree the new pill gesture setup isn't great. The motorola fingerprint gestures is nicer.
The tiny settings icon in the notification drop-down is annoying enough I've given up on it.
Other than some other gui changes (icons and the like), it isn't that different from 8.1.

That's kind of the impression I have been getting for a while. Our phones already have great battery life and moto actions.
I am losing excitement for this update...

It was faster, the battery runs faster than 8.1, I do not like gestures, even though I feel that applications still need to be polished for Pie.
Return to 8.1 for these last two dimensions.

Just installed the update tonight. Performance-wise, it feels the same. Don't know yet about the battery life, since I just got it about an hour ago.
I also found that the pill gesture setup was not up to par. It doesn't add anything extra to the original setup. It still occupies the same bottom screen space.
Dark mode is nice, but I wish it was implemented system wide instead of just by individual app. But probably this depends more on the app developers. But even system apps such as settings don't always have the dark mode.
Lastly, to access the gear settings icon, now you have to pull the notifications bar twice. Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it used to be just once?

jb2112 said:
Lastly, to access the gear settings icon, now you have to pull the notifications bar twice. Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it used to be just once?
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Yes. I noticed this too. The gear was accessible from the notification bar.
I pretty much agree with what others have said so far. Based either on actual speed improvements, tweaks to the animations, or the update placebo effect, 9.0 does feel a bit snappier switching between apps than 8.1.
The only thing I don't like is that the update seems to have made SwiftKey fonts bigger which is mildly annoying.

Pretty disappointed with this version of Android. The recent apps is now destroyed. It's a worse way to interact with your recent apps. Don't even bother with the gestures. Totally half baked. One button nav is superior in every way. The notification pull down is just hideous. The clock is on the wrong side and no way to change it. Why there's no way to change it is beyond stupid. The dark theme option is extremely inconsistent. Won't even darken the settings window for instance. You now have to pull the notification share down twice to access settings versus only one with Oreo. Seems that we've lost a lot of functionality and are being told it's a feature. Perfect example are the volume controls. What a joke.
The whole thing just looks like an iPhone rip off. And the general graphic style sucks. Material design is dead.
Performance and battery seem to stay the same. Overall a poor effort from Google on this. Going to have to root this thing so I can deal with some of the idiotic things they decided to go with. Worst Android update since I can remember. Can't wait to go back to Oreo.

A couple more observations. The volume bar is now on the right side of the screen, next to the volume buttons. It also allows direct access to sound settings. I don't mind this as it feels more intuitive to me. If you long press the power button, now there's an option to take screenshot. I like this since I don't have to fumble again with two hands to take screenshot.
A big change is split screen. Previously, you can just long press the overview button to use split screen. Now you have to tap the overview button (or swipe up from the pill, if you use that), then long press on the icon on top of the app, then select split screen. If you use split screen a lot, this change is annoying to say the least.

cpthornman said:
The clock is on the wrong side and no way to change it.
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That change throws me off. I keep looking for the clock on the right side. And I agree with you; Google copied some of iOS UI while kept some of their own, making it an inconsistent experience.

Fingerprint Lock
I can no longer lock my phone using the fingerprint sensor. I think this is a bug because it is selected in the "Lock Screen Preferences" settings but it does not lock the phone. This may seem like a small thing but it completely disrupts how I'm used to using the phone. I'm using the Google Fi Android One version.

mandarip said:
I can no longer lock my phone using the fingerprint sensor. I think this is a bug because it is selected in the "Lock Screen Preferences" settings but it does not lock the phone. This may seem like a small thing but it completely disrupts how I'm used to using the phone. I'm using the Google Fi Android One version.
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I am on the same version, and it works ok for me.
Edit: I am using One Button Nav

jhedfors said:
I am on the same version, and it works ok for me.
Edit: I am using One Button Nav
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I don't seem to have the one button nav option. Unless I'm not looking in the right place - Moto Actions?

mandarip said:
I don't seem to have the one button nav option. Unless I'm not looking in the right place - Moto Actions?
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If you have the Android One variant, one button nav is disabled on it.

jb2112 said:
If you have the Android One variant, one button nav is disabled on it.
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Yes, that's what I suspected and I suppose that could be the reason the fingerprint lock does not work after the update as well.

mandarip said:
I don't seem to have the one button nav option. Unless I'm not looking in the right place - Moto Actions?
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It is disabled in A1 version. You can get the option enabled by removing the following prop:
ro.mot.android_one
If you are using Magisk, there is a module that you can use for this:
MagiskHide Props Config
Confirmed that this works on Oreo and Pie.
Edit: updated 12/27

mandarip said:
Yes, that's what I suspected and I suppose that could be the reason the fingerprint lock does not work after the update as well.
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Fingerprint lock works on my Android One model without one button nav. Have you tried removing and adding your fingerprints again?

mandarip said:
Yes, that's what I suspected and I suppose that could be the reason the fingerprint lock does not work after the update as well.
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Fingerprint lock still works for me though. I also have A1 variant.

This update is underwhelming for me little changes that are just seemingly random and pointless. I'm especially disappointed that the update broke Google pay , prior to pie I've been taking ota's fine with no impact on gpay.

Jizzylax said:
Fingerprint lock works on my Android One model without one button nav. Have you tried removing and adding your fingerprints again?
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Yep tried that. It's weird because I can unlock the phone with my fingerprint but I can't lock it again. It's obviously recognizing the fingerprint but not for locking purposes.
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It is disabled in A1 version. You can get the option by removing the following prop:
ro.mot.android_one
I toggled it off and the fingerprint lock works. I would be curious to hear from others...
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I haven't rooted this phone yet, but this will be the first thing I do if I go that route.

Gesture navigation?

I've been using a OnePlus 6T and Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 regularly and have become very much so used to swiping to go home, back, recents, etc. In fact, picking up my old Pixel 2 XL feels like a step back in terms of usage.
I understand there are apps that can mimic the gestures, but they aren't always 100% and can sometimes cause issues (Fluid N.G. definitely doesn't work 100% of the time and can be clunky feeling). The native gestures found on OnePlus, Xiaomi, Huawei, all feel great since they were made for the device and what not.
Based on every bit of footage I've seen thus far on the Galaxy S10/S10+, there are navigation buttons by default. Does anyone know if Samsung has made any gesture navigation to use instead of the buttons? I never thought I'd get used to using gestures but now I can't go back.
Cheers!

Yep Samsung does. Slightly different then others, but basically swipe up on left side to go back, swipe up middle for home, and swipe up on right side to go to recent apps. That is provided you have the navigation orientation the way it's supposed to be with back button on left and recents on right. Swipe up and hold middle for Google assistant
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Personally I am not a fan of the Samsung gestures and 3 swipe zones can be complicated if you use different hands at times. It is one of the cons I am considering for getting the S10 as I would have to install fluid if I got one

you can completely hide navigations buttons in android pie - samsung - and use gesture (swipe left, right up down)
i am using them and it was difficult at first and i still get the random misfire but is better as you get 100% screen no button bars
you can find this option in settings

GMD gesture control does this and much more. I use it for years.

tiho5 said:
GMD gesture control does this and much more. I use it for years.
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This also requires root though.

steelersmb said:
This also requires root though.
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That's true, yes.

On the play store there is an app called edge gestures and there's also one made by Francisco named fluid ng. Both are very good.
as for Samsung gestures you can get a good preview on how it works here. https://youtu.be/KptBndWmvqY

ikenvape said:
as for Samsung gestures you can get a good preview on how it works here.
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Are the Samsung gestures always on by default or one can turn them off?

ikenvape said:
On the play store there is an app called edge gestures and there's also one made by Francisco named fluid ng. Both are very good.
as for Samsung gestures you can get a good preview on how it works here. https://youtu.be/KptBndWmvqY
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I second that Fluid NG is a great piece of work. Kudos to the dev.

tiho5 said:
Are the Samsung gestures always on by default or one can turn them off?
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No, it's stock button layout. You can enable the gestures if you so choose.

Talking about gesture, anyone know how to activate/how works the gesture to close an app?
I can see it on a few videos but can't replicate it for some reason? Are we suppose to swipe up a few times?

massacreur75010 said:
Talking about gesture, anyone know how to activate/how works the gesture to close an app?
I can see it on a few videos but can't replicate it for some reason? Are we suppose to swipe up a few times?
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You just swipe from the middle once.

Ace42 said:
You just swipe from the middle once.
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Do you need to activate it?
I'm not talking about the bottom swipe, I'm talking about apparently anywhere on the screen swipe.

i switched from iphone x to s10
and am using the samsung gestures + FluidNG , but limited the Fluid Gestures to only back from left and right parts of the screen the same as i do with the iphone , so now everything is good without the need for ROOT etc..

Try the Good Lock app from Samsung Galaxy Store. The app gathers all the enhancement software from Samsung in it. The one hand operation + uses gesture and is configurable.

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Hey someone now how to hide the bottom bar on pie,like on the orio you can choose hide or not

shorty76 said:
Hey someone now how to hide the bottom bar on pie,like on the orio you can choose hide or not
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You have to go to display settings
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mattio781 said:
You have to go to display settings
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Tank you

shorty76 said:
Tank you
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You're welcome
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shorty76 said:
Hey someone now how to hide the bottom bar on pie,like on the orio you can choose hide or not
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If you on Pie and using navbar you cannot hide it anymore.
Samsung has taken that option away.
You have to basically use the swipe gestures.
However if you use, certain apps like
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Shortcutter Quick Settings (Play Store)
I just tested it now, yes then you can hide navbar.
or maybe some Bixby remapper can do it.?
I however use the swipe actions .
Takes a bit, to get use to it,
but i now prefer swipe to navbar, as it seems pretty obvious
Samsung is "forcing" you to opt for
swipe.?
I've got a feeling that Samsung will drop navbar all together for swipe. (at some stage. or later ?)
Good luck.

willcor said:
If you on Pie and using navbar you cannot hide it anymore.
Samsung has taken that option away.
You have to basically use the swipe gestures.
However if you use, certain apps like
eg
Shortcutter Quick Settings (Play Store)
I just tested it now, yes then you can hide navbar.
or maybe some Bixby remapper can do it.?
I however use the swipe actions .
Takes a bit, to get use to it,
but i now prefer swipe to navbar, as it seems pretty obvious
Samsung is "forcing" you to opt for
swipe.?
I've got a feeling that Samsung will drop navbar all together for swipe. (at some stage. or later ?)
Good luck.
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I discovered that too recently. But the swipe gesture navigation is actually not that bad.

Immersive mode

Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone has found a way to get full immersive mode.
I know you can hide the navbar but I'd love to hide the status bar as well and make it so that apps go around the camera hole.
I don't want to hide the hole but want to put the whole screen up so that I don't see in every app the time and all the status bar icons. Thanks a lot!

I want that too, but apparently no app is able to do that on my Galaxy S10. Hope to see that feature available soon!

Good lock with quick star... but I can't hide galaxy watch bluetooth icon...

renton82 said:
Good lock with quick star... but I can't hide galaxy watch bluetooth icon...
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I wanted to hide the status bar, to shift the whole screen up, not just hide the icons ☺ however I did download some cool goodlock things thanks for reminding me that goodlofk is still a thing

Nova Prime can do itView attachment 4724540
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renton82 said:
Good lock with quick star... but I can't hide galaxy watch bluetooth icon...
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Does it work with apps as well? I guess this is not that doable since I'd be probably missing some buttons that are over there...

JohnPyn said:
Does it work with apps as well? I guess this is not that doable since I'd be probably missing some buttons that are over there...
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Yes, of course

Please send immersive mode requests to Samsung via feedback, or by emailing them. Right now the adb commands create annoying black bars instead of extending the screen.

I currently don't have my S10 yet, but use 'SystemUI Tuner' on my OnePlus 6 to do immersive mode.

Doesn't work with s10 it appears a black bar...

jhericurls said:
I currently don't have my S10 yet, but use 'SystemUI Tuner' on my OnePlus 6 to do immersive mode.
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renton82 said:
Doesn't work with s10 it appears a black bar...
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Technically you could remove the black back by going into Settings>Display>Full Screen apps and selecting all to be full screen instead of auto. However this makes removing the status bar useless since even though you don't get the black bar you still do get a bar that's the color of the app. Green for whatsapp for instance. So you're not actually getting any more screen real estate, just hiding the status bar which I find it easier to do through adb instead of any other app which requires you to give more permissions hence to type more in the terminal.
I'm looking for a way to hide the status bar and have the screen go up and around the camera cutout, just like it works on any other phone which doesn't have a camera cutout

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Technically you could remove the black back by going into Settings>Display>Full Screen apps and selecting all to be full screen instead of auto. However this makes removing the status bar useless since even though you don't get the black bar you still do get a bar that's the color of the app. Green for whatsapp for instance. So you're not actually getting any more screen real estate, just hiding the status bar which I find it easier to do through adb instead of any other app which requires you to give more permissions hence to type more in the terminal.
I'm looking for a way to hide the status bar and have the screen go up and around the camera cutout, just like it works on any other phone which doesn't have a camera cutout
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Did you find a way to do this?
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kurosawa79 said:
Did you find a way to do this?
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I'm afraid not, still looking. I tried several apps and adb. Even wscan command on adb which was something I used to shift the screen down to hide the navbar before pie. Nothing seems to work

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I'm afraid not, still looking. I tried several apps and adb. Even wscan command on adb which was something I used to shift the screen down to hide the navbar before pie. Nothing seems to work
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Strange because apps can go full screen, like Netflix and YouTube Vanced. Just that stubborn black shaded status bar won't shift.
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Strange because apps can go full screen, like Netflix and YouTube Vanced. Just that stubborn black shaded status bar won't shift.
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Yeah that's the same thing I thought of. I guess on apps you would lose some keys for instance on WhatsApp the ability to make calls... But I still would want to hide the status bar

Samsung makes these awesome panels but makes its almost impossible to remove the static elements opening us up to burn in. Toss us a bone Samsung or use a different display tech!

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Strange because apps can go full screen, like Netflix and YouTube Vanced. Just that stubborn black shaded status bar won't shift.
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Best I can get Netflix is about ¾ of way through the cam cut out, can't get it all the way to the edges of the screen
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I opened myself 2 threads about this on xda and one on reddit XD this is soooooooo important to me but no one seems to really care about it much! no one could help how can it be, that folks buy a S10 because of it's infinity display which has very little top and side bezels but are completely fine with a huuuuuuuge statusbar that's just a software bezel because of the bad software.... don't get me started about the possible burn in issues or uneven wear.
the usual adb command don't work
Sammy's own settings in the settings app where you can choose between automatic and fullscreen does nothing
the only thing that worked for me was app cloner so far. I cloned apple music, relay, spotify and tumblr and the difference that it makes is soooo huge!!!! Sammy has to do something about this. Getting all that space back, seeing the content scroll behind and around the punch hole and up to the frame which let's you notice how thin the top bezel really is.... yes on most apps some element get's get blocked by the punch hole, but if you are familiar with the app and know that there is something you can still touch it and it works, or what I do is, triggering one handed mode for a second pressing it and move on. for me that would work. Sammy should put a disclaimer saying, can cause some issues with certain apps and let us use all the apps we wan't in fullscreen/immersive mode. It sure does look better and that's the way I'm gonna be using my S10 after rooting.
please if you have more tips how to get immersive mode, let me know.

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I opened myself 2 threads about this on xda and one on reddit XD this is soooooooo important to me but no one seems to really care about it much! no one could help how can it be, that folks buy a S10 because of it's infinity display which has very little top and side bezels but are completely fine with a huuuuuuuge statusbar that's just a software bezel because of the bad software.... don't get me started about the possible burn in issues or uneven wear.
the usual adb command don't work
Sammy's own settings in the settings app where you can choose between automatic and fullscreen does nothing
the only thing that worked for me was app cloner so far. I cloned apple music, relay, spotify and tumblr and the difference that it makes is soooo huge!!!! Sammy has to do something about this. Getting all that space back, seeing the content scroll behind and around the punch hole and up to the frame which let's you notice how thin the top bezel really is.... yes on most apps some element get's get blocked by the punch hole, but if you are familiar with the app and know that there is something you can still touch it and it works, or what I do is, triggering one handed mode for a second pressing it and move on. for me that would work. Sammy should put a disclaimer saying, can cause some issues with certain apps and let us use all the apps we wan't in fullscreen/immersive mode. It sure does look better and that's the way I'm gonna be using my S10 after rooting.
please if you have more tips how to get immersive mode, let me know.
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Hi I don't understand why app cloner makes a difference. Can you explain?
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Hi I don't understand why app cloner makes a difference. Can you explain?
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Yes of course! like I mentioned before I always use my apps in immersive mode but for once I own a device that's not rooted yet and therefore hasn't a dozen of custom roms with the ability to tweak settings. And because the usual adb commands do nothing I remembered that app cloner had a bunch a display settings which you can mess with. And viola! It has an option to flag apps as immersive mode apps and it actually works! It seems to use a different hook/way to force apps into immersive mode and the result is just beautiful!!! Now you can really enjoy the Display of the S10.
Let me tell ya, after using apps in immersive mode for a hot minute and going back to the stock way sammy intended for us to use the S10, I have to say sammy did only a half hearted job on this. Yeah hardware side is nice but the software side is lacking and not utilizing the hardware. It seems like they didn't now any better and settled on a huge arse statusbar. Maybe because this isn't iOS where developers can develop for specific hardware not like on android.
The Downside? some elements do get in the way and require some kind of a workaround. In this case I settled on using one handed mode which brings the top half part of the screen down revealing those blocked elements by the punch hole. This works so far very good and I'm already used to it. Some elements peak out behind the punch hole so you already know there is something, in this case you can still touch that area because even the punch hole has a digitizer in that area.
S10+amoled theme+Substratum black theme+apps in immersive mode= In my opinion the best way to use this device and forget/never notice punch hole ever.
This should be a bigger deal and more people should talk about this. xda should cover this on the Frontpage.
Here are some screens:https://imgur.com/a/AGJQILu