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I'm currently in China, and I have ordered my One. My Chinese level isn't so good, so I am unsure if the phone I am getting is the international version or the Chinese version. Looking on the HTC China website, it is advertising the model with the removable back cover. Anyone with greater knowledge on these matters than me know if these phones will be compatible for the Roms/kernels that will be made for the international version?
As far as I know, the only difference is the inclusion of dual sim cards and the micro sim.
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I'm currently in China, and I have ordered my One. My Chinese level isn't so good, so I am unsure if the phone I am getting is the international version or the Chinese version. Looking on the HTC China website, it is advertising the model with the removable back cover. Anyone with greater knowledge on these matters than me know if these phones will be compatible for the Roms/kernels that will be made for the international version?
As far as I know, the only difference is the inclusion of dual sim cards and the micro sim.
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It's hard to say because of the limited information still available on the Chinese variants. Typically the China Unicom version is closest to the international version and with other devices, international Roms work. China mobile will definitely not work because they use TD-CDMA which is unique to China mobile only. China telecom should also be similar to China unicom version.
I am buying straight from HTC, but they are advertising the removable back cover on their website... So I am unsure if that means they won't be selling the international version in their retail stores.
ataft said:
I am buying straight from HTC, but they are advertising the removable back cover on their website... So I am unsure if that means they won't be selling the international version in their retail stores.
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the HTC china version is different from international, it has 3 version TDCDMA, WCDMA, and CDMA2000. the WCDMA varience support two sim card (one WCDMA micro sim one GSM normal sim), pls micro sd card.
i'm also in China and actually interesting in this model as well, but there will probably be very little XDA support(custom rom) , so i may end up getting the international version.
also note that the WCDMA only support 900/2100MHz band.
I'm just about to make the same decisions.
Now that I've ruled out the Xperia Z and am getting ready to buy the HTC One, I'm surely interested in the benefits of having an SD-slot as well as Dual Sim support, but worry that I might not get to participate on the customs rom frenzy, even if it is just to get rid of all the pre-installed Unicom crap.
Has anybody had the chance to try it out yet?
Hi,
I am looking to change my xperia X Compact to XZ1 Compact, but i will need in a few month a dual sim phone.
Is there a dual sim version on the XZ1 Compact, or do i have to buy the XZ1 ?
Thanks
There is a version. I saw it in the Wondamobile store, and on eBay. Probably is only available in Asian markets, so you will need to use a reseller like the ones mentioned. Make sure you chose one that accepts Paypal and returns, to be safe. The only problem is that it also has only 32Gb and an hybrid tray (you need to chose between 2nd SIM or SD card), which I find insufficient nowadays. If it came with 64Gb of storage it would be mine already.
CaraMuuu said:
There is a version. I saw it in the Wondamobile store, and on eBay. Probably is only available in Asian markets, so you will need to use a reseller like the ones mentioned. Make sure you chose one that accepts Paypal and returns, to be safe. The only problem is that it also has only 32Gb and an hybrid tray (you need to chose between 2nd SIM or SD card), which I find insufficient nowadays. If it came with 64Gb of storage it would be mine already.
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I highly doubt it, there's been misinformation all over the place about a dual sim variant, but to date no proof can be found from official sources.
Some rumors claim that a dual sim variant was in the works but cancelled at the last minute.
Chances are the specs you saw listed in the store and on eBay are false.
FWIW, only one model number (G8441) is listed under the XZ1 Compact on Xperifirm, a dual sim variant will have a different model number, possibly G8442 given the similar naming schemes of the XZ1 and XZ Premium.
That said, I'd very much like to be proven wrong since I'm also in the market for a dual sim variant.
Thanks for the answers.
I just look at xpericheck.com, and there is actually only one version for the XZ1 Compact.
So I live in Puerto Rico, and switched to Claro from T-Mobile. I expected a regular 64GB model, but the store I went to only had 128GB oddly enough, which was overkill for my usage, but I got it anyways. They told me it was a limited edition Orchid Grey 128GB model.
I saw it's a 128GB version of the N950F, but when I looked online, only the chinese snapdragon N9500 model. I only could find my model in the Claro PR website, and nowhere else.
I have a few shots below, showing the N950F model, the storage and the outside box.
With 128GB + 64GB, I'll never have to worry about space now I guess :laugh:
P.S. What's the most up to date unlocked firmware? Claro's firmware is ancient and downloads too much bloat (5 useless apps, 5 bad games downloaded right away ffs)
EDIT: Links below doesn't seem to work for me, as an alternative go to https://imgur.com/a/QVBM2
Here in Mexico the 128 GB variant is the only official model available from The 3 major carriers, samsung on line refers you to telcel, at&t or movistar, if you want a 64 gig or 256 gig, the only option is a no -warranty gray market one, but samsung mexico will
not accept them for warranty claims
winol said:
Here in Mexico the 128 GB variant is the only official model available from The 3 major carriers, samsung on line refers you to telcel, at&t or movistar, if you want a 64 gig or 256 gig, the only option is a no -warranty gray market one, but samsung mexico will
not accept them for warranty claims
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So it's a Latin-American thing apparently.
Hello, I'm looking to buy a new note 8. I live in Belgium.
But I'm not sure what is the best model to buy.
So my aim is to root the phone and install a kernel or/and ROM to improve the battery life of the phone and it's longevity (I had a galaxy s3 for more than 5 years, on which I did rooting, was pretty happy about the improved battery life and the fact that it's still working fine)
I also notice that you can get snapdragon or exynos depending on the model you buy? Is the difference between these 2 significant?
So there is different model i found on the market :
-n9500 which from what I understood is the Honk-Kong or Chinese model? Seems like I should avoid it because because it doesn't support kernel or ROM?
-n950F which is european version?
-n950FD international version?
-n950N Korean version it seems.
What is your opinion on the model I should buy?
Best regards,
vifzor
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Hello, I'm looking to buy a new note 8. I live in Belgium.
But I'm not sure what is the best model to buy.
So my aim is to root the phone and install a kernel or/and ROM to improve the battery life of the phone and it's longevity (I had a galaxy s3 for more than 5 years, on which I did rooting, was pretty happy about the improved battery life and the fact that it's still working fine)
I also notice that you can get snapdragon or exynos depending on the model you buy? Is the difference between these 2 significant?
So there is different model i found on the market :
-n9500 which from what I understood is the Honk-Kong or Chinese model? Seems like I should avoid it because because it doesn't support kernel or ROM?
-n950F which is european version?
-n950FD international version?
-n950N Korean version it seems.
What is your opinion on the model I should buy?
Best regards,
vifzor
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Go with exynos. Your other answers in xda search button.
Nick216ohio said:
Go with exynos. Your other answers in xda search button.
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Thx for your answer, so it seems like N950FD is the best?
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Thx for your answer, so it seems like N950FD is the best?
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If you need dual SIM go for the N950FD if not go for the regular N950F which is the same as FD except dual sim
Darktitor said:
If you need dual SIM go for the N950FD if not go for the regular N950F which is the same as FD except dual sim
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Does N950F support micro SD card?
Yes, it does
Take a look through the oem unlock thread too.
acctualy the korean n950n would be considered a sure bet. specially if you consider the 256gb version.
there are no issues with the oem unlock. other exynos F/FD's might have that problem.
What is eom unlock?
Sorry for the noob question
vifzor said:
What is eom unlock?
Sorry for the noob question
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vifzor said:
Hello, I'm looking to buy a new note 8. I live in Belgium.
But I'm not sure what is the best model to buy.
So my aim is to root the phone and install a kernel or/and ROM to improve the battery life of the phone and it's longevity (I had a galaxy s3 for more than 5 years, on which I did rooting, was pretty happy about the improved battery life and the fact that it's still working fine)
I also notice that you can get snapdragon or exynos depending on the model you buy? Is the difference between these 2 significant?
So there is different model i found on the market :
-n9500 which from what I understood is the Honk-Kong or Chinese model? Seems like I should avoid it because because it doesn't support kernel or ROM?
-n950F which is european version?
-n950FD international version?
-n950N Korean version it seems.
What is your opinion on the model I should buy?
Best regards,
vifzor
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The only two main considerations IMO (since you already stated you are going to root, so Samsung Pay is out):
N950F/D has full dual-SIM functionality out of the box, so if you need dual SIM this would seem like a smart choice
N950N can be purchased in a 256gb internal capacity version which is great if you want large internal storage
Since you are going to run a custom ROM anyway, there is no functional difference between the two, save for dual-SIM on the F/D
As others mentioned, one potential issue with the N950F or F/D is that they need to be SIM-activated in their intended region before you can use them with a different country SIM card, and people have found that the OEM Unlock (to unlock the bootloader) option is either missing, doesn't show up for 7 days after first use, or disappears after flashing new firmware or ROMs. This is not an issue with the Korean N950N as Korean models are never region, SIM, or carrier locked and do not require the local SIM activation.
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The only two main considerations IMO (since you already stated you are going to root, so Samsung Pay is out):
N950F/D has full dual-SIM functionality out of the box, so if you need dual SIM this would seem like a smart choice
N950N can be purchased in a 256gb internal capacity version which is great if you want large internal storage
Since you are going to run a custom ROM anyway, there is no functional difference between the two, save for dual-SIM on the F/D
As others mentioned, one potential issue with the N950F or F/D is that they need to be SIM-activated in their intended region before you can use them with a different country SIM card, and people have found that the OEM Unlock (to unlock the bootloader) option is either missing, doesn't show up for 7 days after first use, or disappears after flashing new firmware or ROMs. This is not an issue with the Korean N950N as Korean models are never region, SIM, or carrier locked and do not require the local SIM activation.
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mhh..
So seems like buying the N950F or F/D is like playing lottery?
I guess I'll go for the N950N then. But the price is much more expensive because of the custom fee unfortunately...
vifzor said:
mhh..
So seems like buying the N950F or F/D is like playing lottery?
I guess I'll go for the N950N then. But the price is much more expensive because of the custom fee unfortunately...
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Then the LTE speeds in the USA will suffer.
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Then the LTE speeds in the USA will suffer.
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depends on the provider used, the N950N supports all 3 of T-Mobile's main bands 2, 4, and 12 and I'm regularly getting download speeds over 100 Mbps, uploads around 40 Mbps, which is faster than what my T-Mobile-branded Note 5 got in the same areas.
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depends on the provider used, the N950N supports all 3 of T-Mobile's main bands 2, 4, and 12 and I'm regularly getting download speeds over 100 Mbps, uploads around 40 Mbps, which is faster than what my T-Mobile-branded Note 5 got in the same areas.
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Mr Kalm_Traveler, is the Korean N8 the best N8 worldwide.?
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Limeybastard said:
Mr Kalm_Traveler, is the Korean N8 the best N8 worldwide.?
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haha 'best' is arbitrary depending on what you want out of a Note 8. It's my preferred because I wanted Exynos, 256gb internal storage, and supported LTE bands for my carrier. For anyone who needs dual-sim functionality I would direct them to the N950F/D or I believe there is an N9500 dual-SIM model in Hong Kong. If someone just wants a Note 8 and won't need dual SIM, lots of internal space, and won't want to root it, the 'best' Note 8 is likely the one that their carrier offers.
I plan to buy N950N 256 go in South Korea because I'm scared about custom fee(only possible to buy phone from outside Europe) and I want to go to SK anyway.
But If I buy N950N in South Korea can I start using it there or should I wait to use it for the first time in Belgium? I guess it should be fine but I'm not sure.
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I plan to buy N950N 256 go in South Korea because I'm scared about custom fee(only possible to buy phone from outside Europe) and I want to go to SK anyway.
But If I buy N950N in South Korea can I start using it there or should I wait to use it for the first time in Belgium? I guess it should be fine but I'm not sure.
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You mean if it is region locked?
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Limeybastard said:
You mean if it is region locked?
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Yes, I'm planning to buy this phone : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Y29JGF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A613J2Y1GRBOO&psc=1
But I'm concerned also by the fact there is CDMA, is it a big deal?
Best regards,
vifzor
vifzor said:
Yes, I'm planning to buy this phone : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Y29JGF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A613J2Y1GRBOO&psc=1
But I'm concerned also by the fact there is CDMA, is it a big deal?
Best regards,
vifzor
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The Amazon link you mentioned says it's not CDMA. So it seems to be an Exynos Korean version. If it was CDMA then it would be a Snapdragon Note 8 which would still work in Belgium if there is no region lock or SP lock.
EDIT, I searched google and came up with this thread about the SM-N950N all the information is on the first post. thank you
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/sm-n950n-t3700818
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Hi guys,
i want to order in a few days the blue note 9 from wondamobile and was asking myself, if there may be any issues using a south korean note 9 in germany.
I'll post other questions related to the note 9 when i have time but first of all i want to swap from a crappy SM-T555 to the N960N because of the high storage and the higher amount of RAM. the tablet is a substitute to my broken Note 4.
Like i asked in the title, will the korean note 9 work in germany?
another few informations for you:
- i'm a power user, so i do a lot with the note 9, almost replacing a computer with it
- it will be rooted, stock rom with kernel patch(es) like on the note 4
- i want to use it with dex [i used the note 4 with a docking station and SEAndroid with permissive mode + a 8 TB HDD (1 TB ext4 and ~6,3 TB NTFS)]
- connect other peripherals like bluetooth speaker, cable mouse and keyboard
- using LAN connection (if possible with stock firmware)
feel free to ask me about other information you think are relevant!
Alex
I have Note 7 Fan Edition used strictly for Korean market, bought directly from South Korea, and I was successfully using it on AT&T in USA, and now I am using it on Vodafone network in Czech republic without any problems. I would say that you will have no problems using Note 9 in Europe.
You will have no problems using the N960N in Germany. As it is a GSM device, however you may have issues using it in the US as the majority of US Cell Providers operate on the CDMA band.
iceepyon said:
You will have no problems using the N960N in Germany. As it is a GSM device, however you may have issues using it in the US as the majority of US Cell Providers operate on the CDMA band.
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Why don't you give the CDMA in the US B.S. a rest,YOU ARE WRONG on that point.
Yes, CDMA exists in the US,but,the overwhelming majority of traffic is via GSM/LTE,.....................CDMA is well on its way out.
The biggest US CMDA provider is VZW & 92% of their traffic/usage is LTE NOT CDMA.....................
If you lived &/or worked in the US ,you'd realize that.
@Purah
Why don't you buy a SM-N960F model (International Version)?
as far i know the F variants are either 128 gb single sim or 512 gb dual sim. i want a 512 gb single sim and thats why i want the N960N.
Purah said:
as far i know the F variants are either 128 gb single sim or 512 gb dual sim. i want a 512 gb single sim and thats why i want the N960N.
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Gotta ask:
Why not just get the F version in Dual SIM & 512GB?
It's not as if you have to use the 2nd slot.
At 1st glance on eBay (US), there's not many of what you're looking for & they (Single SIM) are actually more expensive than the Dual SIM models.
Just in case you weren't aware, the 2nd SIM Slot is hybrid, it can be used as an SD Card slot. That's either/or, the 2nd slot only holds one or the other at a time.
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thank you, i didn't realize that the 2nd slot can be used as a hybrid!
i forgot to mention that i will use a sd card. at the moment i have a 128 gb sd card.
so the N960N costs £ 699 at wonda mobile. i'll look through prices and then lets see which model i'll take.
again thank you for the information about the second slot!
edit: does the N960N have a sd card slot?
Purah said:
thank you, i didn't realize that the 2nd slot can be used as a hybrid!
i forgot to mention that i will use a sd card. at the moment i have a 128 gb sd card.
so the N960N costs £ 699 at wonda mobile. i'll look through prices and then lets see which model i'll take.
again thank you for the information about the second slot!
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Other than what's already been discussed (single/dual SIM), is there a particular reason for getting the Korean version?
(BTW, single SIM models have an SD Card slot, it's just not hybrid).
The F, FD (F D/S), & N models all have the Exynos processor. LTE Band support for you should be equal.
My apologies if I'm coming across as nit-picking, but, I'm sure you can find a good price on an F or FD (F D/S, same as FD, just stated differently on some listings) that has firmware specific to your area.
Reason I suggest that is Samsung Pay. In a good number of instances, some region specific models don't play nice in that regard, or, requires a bank card from the region to be registered to Samsung Pay.
IE:Korean Note 9 needs a Korean bank card attached to it to work outside of Korea, etc......
If you plan on root/ROMs, disregard the Samsung Pay statements, it & KNOX are permanently broke once rooted, even if you return to a stock/unrooted state...
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i went for the korean note 9 because of the price and because at that point i didn't knew that there are f variants with 512 gb out there. at the beginning i had to decide between the note 8 and 9 and i haven't found any 256 gb variants for the note 8 except the korean one. but i saw that the note 9 went out and then i decided for this, assuming that there is only a korean note 9 with 512 gb out. apparently i was wrong at that time but i didn't knew better.
in the end i will stick to the korean note 9 because of the price because i can save up to 400 € - 600 €. i checked them and compared between samsung price (~ 1250 €, 512 gb N960F duos variant), reseller price (~ 980 €, 512 gb N960F duos variant too) and the korean price (699 GBP, ~ 715 € + 15 € shipping). it doesn't matter if it's duos or not.
i think that i will root the smartphone. i've never used samsung pay and in germany it's not out yet so losing s pay and knox due to a burned e-fuse is not a problem for me. i prefer to pay with cash.
what i heard about s pay is that your bank has to be a partner with samsung to let it work. so even if you have a foreign bank, you still can use their credit card but you get the ad's from the specific region (in this case korean ads).
besides these two reasons secure folder won't work but i'm not using it too.
what about carrier aggregation? will it work properly if i use a korean note in germany? as far as i know no one has a fix for it atm.
KOLIOSIS said:
Other than what's already been discussed (single/dual SIM), is there a particular reason for getting the Korean version?
(BTW, single SIM models have an SD Card slot, it's just not hybrid).
The F, FD (F D/S), & N models all have the Exynos processor. LTE Band support for you should be equal.
My apologies if I'm coming across as nit-picking, but, I'm sure you can find a good price on an F or FD (F D/S, same as FD, just stated differently on some listings) that has firmware specific to your area.
Reason I suggest that is Samsung Pay. In a good number of instances, some region specific models don't play nice in that regard, or, requires a bank card from the region to be registered to Samsung Pay.
IE:Korean Note 9 needs a Korean bank card attached to it to work outside of Korea, etc......
If you plan on root/ROMs, disregard the Samsung Pay statements, it & KNOX are permanently broke once rooted, even if you return to a stock/unrooted state...
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Knox triggers only if custom recovery/rom is flashed. It will not trigger if you took other region firmware/ROM and flash it via ODIN as long as it's the samsung original one downloaded from their servers. Tested on my S7e that was MTL (Bulgaria) and I changed it to BTU, before didn't even had samsung pay and it showed on the BTU.
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Knox triggers only if custom recovery/rom is flashed. It will not trigger if you took other region firmware/ROM and flash it via ODIN as long as it's the samsung original one downloaded from their servers. Tested on my S7e that was MTL (Bulgaria) and I changed it to BTU, before didn't even had samsung pay and it showed on the BTU.
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I'm aware of what triggers Knox,I stated as much.
I just wasn't sure if you can flash F firmware onto an N (Korea) model,hence my recommendation to getting an F model,especially if you live & work in an area where F models are typically sold.
Why bother if you don't have to,that's what I'm getting at. ($$$ savings seems to be the primary factor)
Seems the OP is either set on getting an N model,or,already has......................best of luck to @Purah . :good:
i'm not buying the n960n because i agree with koliosis' concern regarding flashing a F rom on a N device. i think it will be a big hassle or even impossible to do so.
i prefer a device that is usable over saving money and then get stuck with it not being usable at all.
so now i'm looking forward to the 512 gb sd card offer from samsung (here). the device needs to match the model code as well as the EAN code (source) but i'm not sure if i have to buy it at a specific (online) dealer or if i can obtain it at any dealer in germany and only need to ensure that the device has the proper codes on it.
though it's annyoing that the offer goes from 6. november till 20. november because time is really short.
these are the phones that i'd consider to take:
Code:
Product Name | Model Code | Color | Storage | EAN Code
Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZBHDBT Ocean Blue 512GB 8801643486242
Galaxy Note9 F-SMN960FBHAMZ Ocean Blue 512 GB 8801643601416
[B]Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZKHDBT Midnight Black 512GB 8801643486013
Galaxy Note9 F-SMN960FKHAMZ Midnight Black 512 GB 8801643601423[/B]
Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZNHDBT Copper Gold 512GB 8801643486426
Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZNHDBT Copper Gold 512GB 4043972244016
Galaxy Note9 F-SMN960FNHAMZ Copper Gold 512 GB 8801643629526
do you have anything i should consider before i buy one of these?
i'll wait till thursday/friday and then i'm going to order the phone.
Edit:
after a call at samsung they told me that i can go for every (online) dealer as long as the model code and EAN matches. so now im going for one of the bold ones in the code block . i wrote the dealer i want to purchase the note9 from and sent an email, hoping that they can help me with these numbers.
thank you all so far for helping me, especially koliosis!
so i bought the "Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZKHDBT Midnight Black 512GB 8801643486013", model and ean codes are matching.
i'd like to know if a transparent case with silicone is better than a transparent one with rubber on the phones' edges and glass on its back.
i would like to take the case with silicone because it apparently should be more slim than the other one.
Question. Where can I find the bands for the N960n?
I'd like to compare bands of the N960N vs the N960U1
CCJ22 said:
Question. Where can I find the bands for the N960n?
I'd like to compare bands of the N960N vs the N960U1
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Samsung Korea website.
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CCJ22 said:
Question. Where can I find the bands for the N960n?
I'd like to compare bands of the N960N vs the N960U1
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Here I did the search for you.. scroll down for radios.
https://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-note9/specs/
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