Display replacement - with or without frame? - Huawei P10 Questions & Answers

Hi, I got a small but deep scratch on my display, I think I got it from my beach holidays.
Before it'll brake completely, I wanted to order a new display on AliExpress.
There are several display, some cheaper, some not so cheap.
And some are declared as "original" but I don't think it's originally Huawei.
Anyway, most displays can be ordered in two versions, with and without frame.
The frame is the mounting area for all hardware parts.
Now I have a question to guys who already did a replacement or know the differences:
Is there any serious negative point when I order a display with frame?
In videos it looks much easier to replace the screen with frame but I don't know if there are any negatives, for example a not working finger print sensor (I know this from iPhones, because the sensor is married with the logic board).
As electrician I'm able to replace it but I'm not sure about the differences between the both display options.
Greetings,
Jannomag

it interest me as well

from my experience, as i bought for me, i had a nice surprise, for a OP5T, the glue was poor, and after just one month my display was flying, now i order just the display and use 3M, idk how indians are use the glue, because i can't never stick with that right

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HD2 T-Mobile US (1GB) - LCD+Digitizer GLASS Replacement Part

Hi to all,
Before you ask, yes!, I did use the search and found some related posts to my issue, but a little outdated and I read so many things that I think I'm more confused.
My HD2 works without problems with the broken screen...but unless i have tape on it, i I'll cut my fingers...so after almost a year i decided it's time to repair it!
For that, I WANT to buy an LCD+Digitizer Glass Replacement (because i hear some are made of plastic). Because there are at least 3 different versions (so i heard) of HD2 LCD and hundreds of listings on ebay, I'm afraid to buy the wrong part.
Correct me if I'm mistaken:
There are 2 types of connection, solder or socket type. Mine is definitely socket (60H00300), correct?
Every socket version (60H00300) is the one that the LCD is better, right?
If i purchase any LCD+Digitizer combo that states as "for HD2 T-Mobile T8585 solderless/version 2/socket" will it be ok? Even without the T-Mobile logo on top? ...I ask this because I know for a fact that the US T-Mobile version has a slightly larger screen/digitizer!
Plus, I would also appreciate if someone pointed out an original screen replacement (meaning scratch resistance glass digitizer) that i could buy with confidence! :highfive:
Here's my sad HD2...i had to put tape on it, or the top right corner would fall in pieces..
Your TMOUS LCD & Digitizer is 100% same size as any other model HD2.
size difference is in the casing below the buttons & is about 1.5mm to allow for different antenna setup on mainboard.
Any 300 type will fit & work fine but you are indeed correct in assuming issues on quality & materials used.
Buying complete LCD/Digitizer does not mean you will get better quality parts & to be honest it maybe worse as the quality of tape used on some of these is poor.
If your LCD is fine I would make the effort to remove the Digitizer & thus just replace digitizer.
Can be done by warming it up with a quality hair-dryer & using a few new razor blades to loosen the bond, time & care is the key here.
Tapes for rebuild can be found on eBay from poland with worldwide shipping.
Digitizer for TMOUS is this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230897875502?
You would be advised to use a film on lens as even the glass ones can scratch as not as hard as original.
Trying to find original is a pain & high cost for possibly no gain ...
Most important part is learning good repair steps & using good care when stripping & rebuilding as without that a good or poor quality digitizer will be just as useful as a beer mat.
Mister B said:
Your TMOUS LCD & Digitizer is 100% same size as any other model HD2.
size difference is in the casing below the buttons & is about 1.5mm to allow for different antenna setup on mainboard.
Any 300 type will fit & work fine but you are indeed correct in assuming issues on quality & materials used.
Buying complete LCD/Digitizer does not mean you will get better quality parts & to be honest it maybe worse as the quality of tape used on some of these is poor.
If your LCD is fine I would make the effort to remove the Digitizer & thus just replace digitizer.
Can be done by warming it up with a quality hair-dryer & using a few new razor blades to loosen the bond, time & care is the key here.
Tapes for rebuild can be found on eBay from poland with worldwide shipping.
Digitizer for TMOUS is this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230897875502?
You would be advised to use a film on lens as even the glass ones can scratch as not as hard as original.
Trying to find original is a pain & high cost for possibly no gain ...
Most important part is learning good repair steps & using good care when stripping & rebuilding as without that a good or poor quality digitizer will be just as useful as a beer mat.
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The main reason for me to buy the LCD+Digitizer is that i cant afford to be without my HD2 for more than a couple of days...and if I mess up ending the relationship between the LCD and its digitizer....I may end up with two (or three) broken "hearts"!
I'll risk in buying an LCD+Glass Digitizer "300 type" (+film protector) and then attempt to recover the original LCD for a "future repair" as you suggest!
Thank you for your reply, it really answered my issues! (I pushed the thanks button...but for some unknown reason to me it didn't work )
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The main reason for me to buy the LCD+Digitizer is that i cant afford to be without my HD2 for more than a couple of days...and if I mess up ending the relationship between the LCD and its digitizer....I may end up with two (or three) broken "hearts"!
I'll risk in buying an LCD+Glass Digitizer "300 type" (+film protector) and then attempt to recover the original LCD for a "future repair" as you suggest!
Thank you for your reply, it really answered my issues! (I pushed the thanks button...but for some unknown reason to me it didn't work )
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Good luck, hope it works out fine ...
hi
my display was broken, but have worked for a year or so.
now it is frozen/ unresponsive and i have purchased a full display.
just found a very easy way to replace the whole display in just 3 minutes by accessing it from the front side..
i am not yet allowed to post the link, but if you google this
IMPEXTROM CAMBIAR TROCAR DISPLAY HTC HD2
you will see the 3 minutes video
but it seems too easy to be possible ...
any hints?
thanx &cheers
That been set up for the video as you can see it been off before & the chassis the lcd is bonded to is clean of all bonding tape :-/
Also original has signal interference tape runing down sides across all 3 layers.
also if you heat the front first thing to seperate is the digi from LCD as the lcd to mid chassis is a strong bond.
Best way is popping them out of rear cover, fitting a pre built lcd/digitizer is not hard, just use quality adhesive to hold lcd to centre chassis & buy pre cut black foam tape for the top & bottom digi glass edges or rebuild is next to pointless without this done well.
I've done a good 30 odd HD2 screen & mainboards & no way I could do it to my standard via that video.

My thoughts about the lack of good glass screen protectors on S6 Edge and solution

Hello XDA!
First of all, I'd like to wish a Happy New Year to everyone on this board! May 2016 be a fenomenal year to you guys!
I'm opening this conversation because I wanted to share my thoughts with you regarding this problem that owners of the Edge/Edge+ variant are facing: the lack of good glass screen protectors.
I've been looking for this device for a couple of days now (I still don't own it) to replace my current smartphone, and after doing a little bit of research and also for curiosity (to know if a curved glass would have a glass SP), I encountered this problem across the internet, and I don't know how long it will take to be solved.
What I'd like to share with you guys, is the current question: what if you don't use a Screen Protector? I mean, after looking around I encountered some problems regarding it:
Sensitivity is heavily impacted by these SP
The majority of these Glass Screen Protectors aren't cheap, with many ranging between $30 to $40
Man, they're ugly. I mean, to acomodate part of the adhesive or glue that will keep the SP on the device, the majority of the units have the top and bottom parts colored, which acomodate these adhesives. And here we have some problems: sometimes they don't match the device color or even fit the holes properly for the home button and others.
They don't stay on the device for long period of times. In my view, are easily disposable
And my solution to this is pretty simple: if you end up getting the screen badly scratched, or even cracked, you can just replace it with another front glass. And in my opinion, it is totally worth it, from a user experience and also economical view (I'll show the values below).
A device like the S6 Edge is not cheap, and what I think is that you end up losing a great part of the experience of the device by putting these kind of SP on. I tried the smartphone on a couple of stores yesterday and the touch and feel of the edge of the screen is just too nice to be impacted by a poorly-made SP.
Funny thing is that I never thought about that until today. I actually have a Moto G (2013), and initially I wanted to be so careful with it that I bought a couple of cases. But over the time I noticed that it completely destroys all the design and feeling of it in the hand. After a couple of months, I quitted using these cases and have never been happier.
With the screen I am still very careful, using a glass screen protector on it, but after thinking about it today I don't know if it is worth it. There are plenty of very good glass screen protectors out there, but you can't beat the sensitivity and feeling of the screen without any SP.
A lot of people (including me) tend to be very careful with it's devices, and it is completely normal, but I think sometimes we tend to give a lot of attention and concern to it and we end up not experiencing everything the gadget has to offer.
In the future we are going to have even more technologies that depend exclusively on the screen, such as the 3D Touch, perhaps more curved smartphones and even a fingerprint scanner built inside the screen, which will make sensitivity even more important, and so the need of really good screen protectors. Thinking about the possibility of replacing the screen gives us another choice if we don't want to use these SP's or pay for costly ones.
Well, about the possibility of replacing the Edge's front glass, I did a fast research on Ebay and found an item that the seller claim is original, for just $19.99:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Fr...hash=item35f722b753:m:m_MYRYEwbj9-1tKN3fQP5MA
And also another one, unbranded, for $15.70:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Glass...373893?hash=item3cfb40ecc5:g:XB0AAOSwrklVbrar
I'm sure that with a lot more research and time we can find many other items.
Of course, the procedure to replace it requires a lot of effort and is kinda risky, but we can find some tutorials on Youtube, like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_OPjGnaIy0
What do you guys think? I just wanted to post this as I saw many users concerned over the protection of their screens, and with it bring some sort of second option for you.
I'm really looking forward to your opinions around this and some sort of feedback from my thoughts would be really nice.
As a user of screen protectors (not necessarily tempered glass, I've always has plastic protectors), I feel that the trade offs from aesthetics (a little misaligned cutout here, etc.) to cost are nowhere near as much as the repair costs for replacing screen parts. It gives me peace of mind knowing that I have at least /some/ protection on the screen. I'm very careful with my devices but there are just times where a protector would come in handy for things that are beyond my control (like getting your phone knocked off your hand by some random passerby, kids running, those kinds of things.) I think I'd also rather have the trade offs than endure the struggle of trying to replace the screen by myself. Plus, if you're planning on reselling the phone in the future, phones with the original parts tend to be valued higher.
Now while replacement screens are readily available, as with the case of some third-party supplies, quality problems such as color casts, etc. are problems for meticulous users. From personal experience, I've had phones break and had fixed elsewhere aside from the manufacturer's service center only to regret it by getting darker screens, lesser color vibrance, etc. compared to the original. Often times, when the glass breaks, it takes the screen and other parts down with it; thus costing you well more than just the 15 USD for the glass replacement, so I guess that's also another way to look at it.
I've had various mobiles for many many years (I'm 64) and have always used a case and a protector for the screen, and never had a damaged phone. I order all three at the same time and don't use the phone until everything has been delivered.
The edge presented a problem that we're all familiar with so I went for this one despite the £18+ cost. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B014CE6CL0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
Everything was great, easy to apply, no bubbles and looked great..... then I fitted the Otterbox case! Disaster, cracked protector and £18+ down the drain.
Currently, and for the first time ever, I'm using the phone with no screen cover. I feel naked, but don't feel like risking another glass one.
Any answers welcome?
Zagg just confirmed a tempered glass by February; the problem is that it may have to be installed at the kiosk.
I just use cheap TPU screen protectors from ebay, they require soapy water to be mounted so you get them in the exact place, then you squeegee the water out and let the edges to dry up so you can stick them down, they settle fully after a few hours and look great. they can be a nightmare to put on and I would say they have around slightly less clarity than glass but they cover the whole screen and do they're job just fine.
TPU has very good shock absorbing properties so I think they will help resist screen cracks like tempered glass.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=221893323852&alt=web
no matter how careful you are , the phone will still hit the ground somehow , always happen when you just woke up , glue to the screen and some dude bang onto you , off the phone flys , fyi most shops dont replace the glass alone , its comes as a set (much easier and fuss free ) , also direct impact drops can crack the lcd internally without glass cracking .

Nexus 6 Prototype | Anybody Buy A Display With Markings Etched in The Screen?

I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.
Screens pls, btw i found 1 long time ago in eBay, Google buy then back for mich money
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illitero said:
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass
DontStopDev said:
i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass
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I definitely appreciate the suggestion, but I'm specifically looking for input on where I can get replacement screens. I don't mind cracks in screens personally (swappa boneyard represeeeeent! lolol), but with my last N6 screen cracking from compromised glass up top, I'm paranoid of any use doing the same to the prototype display. I want to either use it or sell it, and as long as the glass is broken I can't really do either :crying:
Finding a prototype display is going to be virtually impossible due to ridiculously limited quantities, and replacing it with a production model version - if that's even doable - would kill any value the prototype might still have. If you're looking to use it, you're probably going to have to fish for a production screen and hope Motorola didn't make any changes between the prototype and production model.
BlockOfDynamite said:
Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.
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I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)
mesco38 said:
I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)
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You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder
illitero said:
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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Have you seen any more of these around?
I'd be interested in a Prototype Nexus 6 in any shape.
Heck, if you're interested in selling yours, I'd be interested (just PM me if).
Axel85 said:
You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder
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Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..
mesco38 said:
Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..
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I replied you and him only to tell that it's really hard , only to let you know and to let him know before he tries to order the glass,try to separate that from display and make it worse . Oled displays goes completely black if broken ,instead of LCD that stay alive .
I know procuring one is next to impossible. The reason I asked is because I had seen a large batch of them sold on eBay sometime last year. So people expecting them to work for their regular Nexus phones (they don't; ribbons are slightly different) bought them and ended up not being able to use them. A shot in the dark for sure, haha. Otherwise I have replacement production glass, LOCA, and a plate and wire to do the job properly, it's just as all stated in the original post: failure is an absolute game over. A screen with cracked glass is much more functional than a dead screen with good glass, you know?

Questions about replacing a broken Note8 Screen.

Hi, i been unlucky and broke the bottom left corner of my note8 screen. :crying: , luckily phone still works even tho there is a tiny hole in corner (guessing i lost the water resistance rating).
The phone still works, so im not in a huge rush to replace the screen because of the cost. But i do have a few questions i hope someone might have the answers for .
1. I have replace screens before in phones ( none my own, i'm usually very careful with my own phones) but this would be my first with water resistance rating. Have anyone of you had success in replacing a screen yourself and feel confidant enough that it still water resistance or even tested it out?
I would like to keep it water resistance for the off chance i ever drop phone in water. I under stand that the screen and back is held together with double sided tape cut to the shape of phone along with a few screens in middle. i'm been looking at screen replacements that's already attach to the center body so i could just have to deal with moving over the insides of phone and dealing with the back cover only
2. Would you recommend that or only ordering the screen?
3. and last question does anyone have a reliable seller(ebay) or online store they recommends. I have a issue before with a Samsung phone that they released a update and it block the use of Non-OEM screens. So i want to make sure i'm getting OEM screen with 0 chances of getting one that Samsung could block.
THANKS!
no recommendations?
If you want to maintain water resistance your best bet is to send it to Samsung. Its actually cheaper that way as well.
For example, I replaced the screen on a S8 Plus myself. I paid $244 for the screen/frame assembly plus had to buy new adhesive for the back door and lost my warranty. I later found out from Samsung they will replace the S8 Plus screen for $217. That includes shipping.
I believe the Note 8 screen is a little more expensive but not much.
check with Samsung support if you are eligible for the 1 free screen replacement thing, you could be lucky
Better of letting Samsung change the screen for approx $250.
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I broken also mine, really small distance from the ground,( basically while I was sitting in the car) but kept an angulation that damaged the hedge and propagated a bit on the side, there is the possibility that the screen replacement will lower the price? Currently 350 eu are a bit too much for me. I am just a bit disappointed because honestly was thinking the gorilla glass would have been much more solid, they should sell it with a custom coverage to encourage people to use a cover. I did my research on the internet where was said in almost every place that the problem of this screen was that would scratch but not easily broke.
I broke mine....180 € in official technical center in Portugal.
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I broken also mine, really small distance from the ground,( basically while I was sitting in the car) but kept an angulation that damaged the hedge and propagated a bit on the side, there is the possibility that the screen replacement will lower the price? Currently 350 eu are a bit too much for me. I am just a bit disappointed because honestly was thinking the gorilla glass would have been much more solid, they should sell it with a custom coverage to encourage people to use a cover. I did my research on the internet where was said in almost every place that the problem of this screen was that would scratch but not easily broke.
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That's frustrating for sure. The newer gorilla glass on the Note 8 is indeed more impact resistant than before, but it's still glass. 350 euro seems very steep for a screen replacement though...almost double what I expected...
I shattered the screen and damaged the digitizer on my Note8 a little while ago. Found that it was actually cheaper to send it to Samsung for repair than to buy the screen/digitizer. They even replaced the rear glass for $237. I bought mine used, so no warranty for me.
the point is, if for the screen I have to pay more than 30 percent of the value of the phone, and Samsung is advertising a super gorilla glass instead to advice prudence and maybe offer a free cover, I personally could be not so loyal to them in future. If I want to get ripped off I would buy an iphone.
trocchietto said:
the point is, if for the screen I have to pay more than 30 percent of the value of the phone, and Samsung is advertising a super gorilla glass instead to advice prudence and maybe offer a free cover, I personally could be not so loyal to them in future. If I want to get ripped off I would buy an iphone.
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Well, really the point is: if you want a sturdy device that can endure SOME, just SOME abuse, get a CAT device, or at least a samsung active series device, all normal standard devices are subject to scratchs and cracks when dropped, as for the repair price, that is exactly the penalty for not being careful, Just the same as when car accidents occur, the more expensive the car, the more expensive the parts and repair, and, an iphone screen is by no means cheap, my daughter dropped her iphone, and the cost was 220 dollars, but they only changed the outer part, not the lcd panel, the whole screen would have been around 400 dollars
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Well, really the point is: if you want a sturdy device that can endure SOME, just SOME abuse, get a CAT device, or at least a samsung active series device, all normal standard devices are subject to scratchs and cracks when dropped, as for the repair price, that is exactly the penalty for not being careful, Just the same as when car accidents occur, the more expensive the car, the more expensive the parts and repair, and, an iphone screen is by no means cheap, my daughter dropped her iphone, and the cost was 220 dollars, but they only changed the outer part, not the lcd panel, the whole screen would have been around 400 dollars
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well OK, i will change the screen, but possibly will be my last samsung.
People who broke screen. Did you guys have case and screen protector?

Proximity sensor always shows high (far) value after screen replacement

My Galaxy M21 phone's AMOLED screen got damaged due to liquid penetrating a few days ago. I went to the repair shop and asked to replace the screen with LCD one.
After replacement, everything is working fine, except for the proximity sensor. It always reports far proximity even if I bring a surface completely covering the screen. During calls, the screen does not automatically turn off when bringing it to my ear.
I have asked the repair person, and he replied that the LCD screen does not have holes to accommodate the sensor properly, so it is blocking the sensor. But AFAIK if that's the case, the sensor should always report near value, not far.
Is there any solution for this or is this a known problem due to LCD screen replacement?
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Not really if the mobo doesn't support the alien hardware.
The firmware instruction set may able to be altered to get the new hardware to work as you want.
It been better to use the original display, but not doing so you opened a can of worms.
Water damage? Possibility of mobo damage as well particularly if the battery wasn't quickly disconnected. If it was salt or brine water it's already dead.
blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA
Not really if the mobo doesn't support the alien hardware.
The firmware instruction set may able to be altered to get the new hardware to work as you want.
It been better to use the original display, but not doing so you opened a can of worms.
Water damage? Possibility of mobo damage as well particularly if the battery wasn't quickly disconnected. If it was salt or brine water it's already dead.
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By water damage, I meant a small amount of water somehow got into the screen and darkened the screen slowly starting from one side (a common thing on AMOLED displays).
I can assure that the water didn't cause any problem other than the screen, because I regularly check the device stats & sensors. The proximity sensor is behaving like this after screen replacement.
Well the former of what I said then applies.
I'm surprised it will even function with an LCD.
I went to the repair shop and asked to replace the screen with LCD one.
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The proximity sensor is behaving like this after screen replacement.
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Sorry to barge in friend,
Thats why I am very careful with 3rd party repair vendors, I have lost many phones to them, they REPLACE new hardware with old spare components,its a bad habit they have & thats why the OEMs have "Authorized Service Centers" exactly for this reason.
For Shamshung devices I suggest you go to Shamshung Authorized Service Center only as Shamshung parts are quite in demand because of good build quality.
Small Story: Few days ago I went to Shamsung Service Center to try to downgrade my M21 from A13 to A11 (my phone is within warranty) & as expected they told me "only upgradable not downgradable sir!". I knew they were lying because a friendly shamshung service center guy once told me they do everything there internally, they have repair softwares there. Anyway, so I took the phone to a 3rd party repair station and the owner named Salman told me he has downgraded so many Shamshung phones of newer models, all I have to do is leave the phone with him for about 10 hours & he will downgrade from A13 to A12.5 then to A12 then to A11.5 and finally to A11 so it will take time, NO! he was lying! He was charging me a biggish amount but not just that he needed 10 hours to fix the mess that would happen when he stole & replaced the new components with older ones. Thats why Authorized Service Centers only friend.
@OldNoobOne I already went to Samsung's authorized service centre, but they only can replace the screen with AMOLED.
I was desperately trying to avoid AMOLED screens this time because they get damaged easily and are more fragile than LCDs (that's my experience with them).
Don't know how much correct I am, but I have seen most AMOLED screens getting damaged completely due to the slightest of shock or due to a single drop of water somehow seeping into it. I have never seen this type of problem with LCD screens.
Looks like I should have bought a phone with an LCD screen in the first place.
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@OldNoobOne I already went to Samsung's authorized service centre, but they only can replace the screen with AMOLED.
I was desperately trying to avoid AMOLED screens this time because they get damaged easily and are more fragile than LCDs (that's my experience with them).
Don't know how much correct I am, but I have seen most AMOLED screens getting damaged completely due to the slightest of shock or due to a single drop of water somehow seeping into it. I have never seen this type of problem with LCD screens.
Looks like I should have bought a phone with an LCD screen in the first place.
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Yes friend, not just that LCD screen phones tend to consume lesser battery too. Another way to avoid AMOLED issue is that is to use a plastic pouch during rains etc. (there is no problem in communications) or also use a flip-cover instead of normal plastic/rubber back covers only. Just use a good quality scratch/screen guard like 3D+ and LCD will look quite like AMOLED
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@OldNoobOne I already went to Samsung's authorized service centre, but they only can replace the screen with AMOLED.
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That makes perfect sense. Using an aftermarket LCD display does not.
Puspam Adak said:
I was desperately trying to avoid AMOLED screens this time because they get damaged easily and are more fragile than LCDs (that's my experience with them).
Don't know how much correct I am, but I have seen most AMOLED screens getting damaged completely due to the slightest of shock or due to a single drop of water somehow seeping into it. I have never seen this type of problem with LCD screens.
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All phones should be kept dry regardless of the IP rating. As you found out the AMOLED diodes used in displays are water soluble. The displays are sealed but if the seal is breached by water they will be destroyed in short order. Always use a good case to protect from impacts and high G loading induced damage when dropped. Wipe all water off immediately.
This N10+ in my has always been in a good case and unfortunately has been dropped onto concrete many times (zero visible damage). It has well over 8k hours on it. The display shows no sign of damage or degradation whatsoever. Don't use in direct sunlight and use manual brightness keeping the brightness at 50% preferably less it will get many years of service.
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Looks like I should have bought a phone with an LCD screen in the first place.
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AMOLED displays use -less- battery, have infinite contrast (pure black) and the best color gamut. Higher and variable refresh rates are also possible, but these tend to use more power.
They are more expensive and have shorter, finite lifespans. Other than lifespan they are superior to backlight LCDs. That's assuming you protect the phone from drops and the design/QC was good when manufactured. Of course display quality can vary from manufacturer, model and individual displays. It could be you got a defective AMOLED display from the get go. Samsung's QC has been slipping in recent years it seems. A used N10+ in good condition might have been a better choice than a new midrange Samsung. It remains one of the best phones Samsung ever produced.
LCD displays are easier and cheaper to manufacture so you pay more for AMOLEDs.
If you prefer LCD displays by all means use them.
They are more rugged but not bulletproof by any means.
(Always protect LCDs from solvent exposure like isopropyl alcohol; they are open vented to the atmosphere and solvents can poison/destroy them.)

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