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Hiya,
about an hour ago I plugged my nearly dead Kaiser to the standart charger and connected it using bluetooth to my notebook. I was very surprised to hear the "Batter is very low" sound a few minutes later. I checked the screen and noticed that the display read "Charging" no more. Blink - and it's stone dead. I replugged the charger and started the device again. Batter was at 1% and began charging. As soon as it hit 15% of battery life, it stopped charging again, although "Recharging state: Charging" status remained. I switched to USB charger to see if it makes any difference - and it did. It started discharging the battery! Now it's plugged back in the standart charger again and it reads 14% for several minutes now. It looks more like it's "holding it there" than charging.
I tried two different USB cabels, the "wall" charger (English is really not my native language, I don't know the proper word - sorry) and no luck.
Three or four soft resets, pulling out and returning the battery, nothing running in the background - just Phone, Data Connection and Internet Sharing. I'm using unmodified radio and Sleuth 3.0 ROM.
P.S. It looks to me that the battery is discharging much more faster than I was used to. As soon as I pull the charger out, the battery drops two or three percent.
Any ideas? I'm afraid my Kaiser / battery is dead.
EDIT: The battery is warm and I can see the "charging" icon in the kaiser's taskbar
RLOD
About the charging LED, usually yellow, turned to red? Just to clarify better your situation for all members here.
When the charger is disconnected, it flashes green, when I plug in the charger, it turns orange.
No RED led. That is a very good thing.
Do you don't have any spare battery already or maybe a friend will have one?
Looks like a fault battery - are you using it since when?
I bought this Kaiser about a month ago, but it's not new. The previous owner bought it in November, last year. The battery was healthy until today.
This sounds like a battery issue to me also. These are classic signs of a dying battery. The good news is that the phone is still trying to charge it.
Just as an experiment I took out my battery and put it on a multimeter. At 94% charged (when I took it out) it showed 4.09 volts and 1240mAh. I've had my tilt for 3.5 months now.
Try a hard reset could fix a program gliche if you have one..but it does sound like you have a "croaking battery"
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Was tempted to start a new thread, but figured someone might still read this one.
Last night my Tilt was fine,
and today I noticed that it was incredibly warm/hot to touch. After being plugged in and charging normally for a while, I looked back and noticed that the charging icon was not displaying anymore--just the normal battery icon.
This began last night as well, whenever my battery would hit 100% it would stop displaying the charging icon and return to the battery icon. I would then unplug it and plug it back in and it would go back to normal.
As of right now, it goes back and forth between refusing to show me the charging icon and showing me the charging icon. The light is yellow/orange.
Does this probably mean my battery is dying? Even when the charge icon refuses to show up, when I plug in the charger the backlight switches to the external power profile level of brightness.
It really came out of nowhere. I'm hoping it's some fluke that came out of nowhere, or that some strange registry key that decides it's going to jack up my hardware temperature, drain my battery, and not want to be plugged in anymore got changed.
It's about 2 months old, and I'd be really disappointed if the battery was already croaking.
O wise sages of xda-dev, please enlighten me. The thing charges really slowly now.
The other day I was in a hospital and my phone was next to the bed but the charger wire was tangled in the bed. So a nurse came up and rolled out the bed and the phone fell from quite high on the (hard) floor.
It still worked, screen wasn't cracked so I didn't think much of it.
But now, the phone can be charged with the charger. As soon as I unplug the charger there are 2 things that can happen:
1. The phone keeps saying it's charging. Other than that the phone is fully functional. Battery drain is much higher though, in 10 minutes I lose 7% battery.
2. The charging icon in the battery will flash on and off. When I switch off the screen, the lock-screen immediatly turns on and the text charging blinks, it's like someone is plugging in the charger and takes it out immediatly, battery drain is even higher when this occurs, I lose 50% within the hour, depending of what I'm doing.
Sometimes the problem is not there, the phone will function normally, but the problem will come back within 1 or 2 hours and usually when I plug in a charger and take it out later. Also, sometimes it seems the phone is not charging and the charge indicator will stay at a certain percentage but when I reboot the phone it it fully charged (according to the indicator).
First I thought it was an android problem. But when I switch off the phone the charging image appears as well and starts blinking, also the menu and back button flash on and off. It's also quite difficult to switch on the phone at this point and the battery image shows only the outline of the battery, not how much charge is in it.
So far I tried 2 other chargers, 2 other batteries (1 original Samsung and 1 after market). Rebooted the phone many times and left the battery out for an hour.
Anyone knows of what causes such a problem? Of course, the fall was the start of the problem. Could there be some pins bent in the usb socket of the phone?
vinz3nt said:
The other day I was in a hospital and my phone was next to the bed but the charger wire was tangled in the bed. So a nurse came up and rolled out the bed and the phone fell from quite high on the (hard) floor.
It still worked, screen wasn't cracked so I didn't think much of it.
But now, the phone can be charged with the charger. As soon as I unplug the charger there are 2 things that can happen:
1. The phone keeps saying it's charging. Other than that the phone is fully functional. Battery drain is much higher though, in 10 minutes I lose 7% battery.
2. The charging icon in the battery will flash on and off. When I switch off the screen, the lock-screen immediatly turns on and the text charging blinks, it's like someone is plugging in the charger and takes it out immediatly, battery drain is even higher when this occurs, I lose 50% within the hour, depending of what I'm doing.
Sometimes the problem is not there, the phone will function normally, but the problem will come back within 1 or 2 hours and usually when I plug in a charger and take it out later. Also, sometimes it seems the phone is not charging and the charge indicator will stay at a certain percentage but when I reboot the phone it it fully charged (according to the indicator).
First I thought it was an android problem. But when I switch off the phone the charging image appears as well and starts blinking, also the menu and back button flash on and off. It's also quite difficult to switch on the phone at this point and the battery image shows only the outline of the battery, not how much charge is in it.
So far I tried 2 other chargers, 2 other batteries (1 original Samsung and 1 after market). Rebooted the phone many times and left the battery out for an hour.
Anyone knows of what causes such a problem? Of course, the fall was the start of the problem. Could there be some pins bent in the usb socket of the phone?
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I had a problem recently in which even though I kept my phone on charging (and it showed that it is charging), the battery percentage either remained same or it went down even though it was plugged in.. went to samsung and they said the usb port is damaged and they replaced it.. I think the same resolution will be for your problem
Mmm....makes sense. What does Samsung charge for that?
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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Not sure, I don't use stock or the stock charger. I would have thought the stock charger trickle charged. I remember my HTC desire used to charge to 100%, discharge to 90 and then charge to 100% in a loop as it didn't trickle charge.
Make sure your using a cable that supports data as well. My stock 5.01 and stock charger/cable does trickle charge.
It's perfectly normal to see this in such devices, though if it were going any lower I'd investigate further.
Maintaining a constant flow to the battery would burn it out so the charge gets it to full and then cuts out, allowing a little discharging and cooling of the battery. Once it gets to certain point, it'll start to juice the battery again.
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thanks for the replies - I've not seen it drop below 90%, but I know if remove the charger and plug back in, it will start charging as normal - another thing I have recently noticed is that when you do plug charger in, initially it switches between battery/charger a few times and then starts properly charging - I wonder if this is feature of the phone or lollipop causing this. - other than this phone seems to work fine and have had over 2 days on a full charge
Well got it to drop to 80% while plugged in and it didn't start charging again until pulled cable and put back in
what charger are you using? i leave my n6 on a charger for hours after it hits 100%, and it never ever drops. id even say that when it hits 100% it doesnt stop charging. it keeps charging, with a much less inflow of charge than normal, but its still charging. for about 30min before it stops charging. then it just stays at 100%. sometimes i have it plugged in for 8-10 hours after, never once did it go to 99%. this is while using stock, and custom roms.
walkerx said:
I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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The new gen chargers actually cut the power when the battery Actually hits 99% and show it as 100% and stop it charging. But when the 100% drop to 99% (which is not actually visible), it automatically starts charging. But discharging the battery more than 1% is not actually a Normal thing, I should say. I also do charge over-night, never evidenced such thing. I'll suggest you to try with different turbo charger if you have one.
I'm using the stock charger got with the phone. I did contact Motorola over this and they were useless. I know charger works as charges to 100%. But it then just stops.
I have performed a factory reset to see how it goes tonight.
If still no good will speak with CPW and see what they say as don't fancy having to send off based on some of the forum posts
I have no issues with my N4 which has been connected to a power source for days and still shows 100%
I have also noticed that on the N6 when powered off and charge it doesn't show that it is charging
taken it into CPW and they have sent it off for repair - been told 16 days - at least with apple it's near enough same day, shame can't do same with android phones
I had called Motorola uk support and was promised email confirmation of call and also call back this morning regarding the phone and have had neither
back to my Nexus 4 for time being, just hope my Nexus 6 don't come back with any scratches, etc
I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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Good question. But judging by the rest of this thread, I suspect that it will behave the same with a wire as with the Qi. I don't ever actually use the wire to charge, since the ballistic maxx case makes access to the USB plug inconvenient.
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
Ok, so looking at the DT for the device....
https://android.googlesource.com/ke...ot/dts/apq8084-shamu/apq8084-moto-common.dtsi
Look at lines ranging from 823 to 854 for the smb1357 block.
Note low-voltage-uv = 2750000, max-voltage-uv = 4350000
In mv, that would be 2750 and 4350 respectively. That makes for a range of 1600 mV.
The recharge-thresh-mv = 200
Assuming a *relatively* linear voltage/percentage curve, 200/1600 * 100 = 12.5%. It won't be quite that linear, but this is adequate to give a rough idea of the charge cycle breadth in percentage points.
recharge-thresh-mv accepts values of 50, 100, 200, or 300. The smaller the value is, the tighter the recharge threshold becomes. At 50, we would be looking at roughly 3%.
So my conclusion: working as intended.
There is another aspect that becomes involved when using Qi, which is the bq51021. This one has a parameter "resume-vbatt-mv" set to a value of 4270 mV. That is 80 mV below full, or roughly 5%. Judging by only the name of the parameter, it sounds like it sets a Qi charge cycle breadth of 5%, but I don't understand the relationship between the bq51021 and the smb1357. I suspect that the two have to agree for Qi charging to work.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
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I don't think so. I put it on the charger at pretty much the same time and take it off at pretty much the same time but starting from different % remaining every day... If it did drop to 90%, i would have caught it at least once by now.
update: whatever you do if you are uk customer and purchased via CPW do not take it back to them - i found out today that they are not accredited repairers and they should have advised me it needed to go to Motorola - now trying to find out what is happening with my phone and when to get it back
I'm still trying to understand how my Nexus 6 works with Qi charging, and the results are a bit inconsistent.
I'm using an LG WCD-100 stand and a BlackBerry Blade charger, both of which are reported to work well with the Nexus 6 (in portrait).
I've had my Nexus 6 on the dock on my desk in work this week, and have been keeping an eye on it. I have the screen on all the time (so I can keep an eye on incoming personal emails). Most of the time the N6 charges to 100%. It then stops charging until it get to about 98%, at which time it starts charging again. So far so good. HOWEVER, on a few occasions it did not start to recharge (even with the battery down to the 70's), and I had to remove it from the charger for a few moments and then put it back before it would start charging again.
I'll try again next week (I'm only desk-bound Tue/Wed/Thu) with a different Qi charger, just in case there's a problem with the one I'm using (though I doubt it).
In the meantime, has anybody seen similar behaviour - or is it time to talk to Motorola UK Support?
the charging issue with it not starting again is the same as what i'm having on wired connection - if you install something like gsam battery monitor you can see that it is discharging while actually charging
I also have the LG WCD-100 (from when I had the LG G3) but not actually using it as I think first time tried you have to get it in the correct area for it to charge
I had problems with my Nokia charger. Because this phone is big and the back of the Nokia was less than half way up the back of the phone, the weight of the too of the phone pushed the bottom of the phone away from the charger.. Imagine the phone as a see saw and the top of the back of the charger as the pivot point. Also the unflat back didn't help
I recently got a wireless charger for my Droid Turbo and have noticed that once full the phone keeps connecting and disconnecting, It almost seems like this is by design, it is so uniform, I just want to make sure nothing is wrong with my charger or my phone.
Are other people having this issue?
Android's built in battery monitor resets when I take the phone off of any charger, so It does not show this.
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I recently got a wireless charger for my Droid Turbo and have noticed that once full the phone keeps connecting and disconnecting, It almost seems like this is by design, it is so uniform, I just want to make sure nothing is wrong with my charger or my phone.
Are other people having this issue?
Android's built in battery monitor resets when I take the phone off of any charger, so It does not show this.
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My phone does the same thing, so I am assume it is by design, but if anyone else knows more, I'd love to hear from them as well!
Yes, that's how all modern devices with chargers work. Once it becomes fully charged, the idea is you take it off the charger. If you leave it sit on there, though, it's going to harm the battery if the charger keeps pumping electricity into it, so it stops for a while. Once it hits 98-99%, it's no longer fully charged and begins charging again. Obviously this isn't the best for the battery longevity either, so again, you should take it off the charger once it hits 100%. But the behavior you're seeing here is normal.
The only issue I have is I have a custom sound through Xposed module for when I'm wireless charging and not. Helps to know when you hit the Qi pad "sweet spot". Or if I accidentally move the phone off the sweet spot and it's no longer charging (but I want it to).
Wireless Charging | Xposed
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.eldarerathis.xposedmodule.wirelesschargingxposed
Somehow my and my wife's LG Nexus 5 is smart enough to stop charging on the Qi pad (when battery is full) and NOT trigger the custom ON/OFF sound -- because I did NOT remove the phone from the charging pad. It still stops charging and starts recharging, periodically but until I PHYSICALLY remove the Nexus 5, it does not chime. It KNOWS the difference between me moving the phone and the battery's automatic circuitry. Or if I put the phone physically back ON the pad, THEN it chimes. But if the Nexus 5 battery charging cuts off/on by itself, it does not trigger the notification.
Yet, with my Moto Maxx, when the battery gets full, CHIME! A couple minutes later, CHIME! A couple minutes later, CHIME! (off, on, off, on, off, on). Very annoying. LG somehow is smarter so that doesn't happen.
I sold my Nexus 5 a couple of weeks ago, but my wife still has hers. On our living room and bedroom charging pads, I see the comparison side by side ever day. Same Xposed module, but Moto stupidly thinks I've "removed" the device from the charging pad when it stops charging the battery because it's full. And then starts back, and then stops.
Has anyone else notice problems charging yet?
When charging using the supplied adapter, the battery percentage stops increasing at some point. 46% or 67% etc it just stays stuck even though the charging symbol remains.
The phone stays hot like it is charging, but it still says '46% 1 hour remaining to fully charge etc'. If you leave it for an hour, it stays at 46%. If you unplug and restart the phone, it will be at 100%.
I hope this is a software bug? It seems others are impacted too. google support link below.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en
Mine is working fine
Same error, but on 92%. I didn't restart the phone, and after 5 hours without charger battery level went down normally.
mcgon1979 said:
Has anyone else notice problems charging yet?
When charging using the supplied adapter, the battery percentage stops increasing at some point. 46% or 67% etc it just stays stuck even though the charging symbol remains.
The phone stays hot like it is charging, but it still says '46% 1 hour remaining to fully charge etc'. If you leave it for an hour, it stays at 46%. If you unplug and restart the phone, it will be at 100%.
I hope this is a software bug? It seems others are impacted too. google support link below.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en
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Same for me here. I'm monitoring the issue until next week and then decide what to do
mcgon1979 said:
Has anyone else notice problems charging yet?
When charging using the supplied adapter, the battery percentage stops increasing at some point. 46% or 67% etc it just stays stuck even though the charging symbol remains.
The phone stays hot like it is charging, but it still says '46% 1 hour remaining to fully charge etc'. If you leave it for an hour, it stays at 46%. If you unplug and restart the phone, it will be at 100%.
I hope this is a software bug? It seems others are impacted too. google support link below.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en
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Surely that just sounds like a software issue or glitch. It's not stopped charging, it's just not updated correctly?
superleeds27 said:
Surely that just sounds like a software issue or glitch. It's not stopped charging, it's just not updated correctly?
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yes it appears that way. hopefully.
Hi ! Mine is stuck at 100% after charging at night. I use the google pixel stand. After rebooting battery falls down rapidly to the correct amount but it gets stuck everytime I charge it back fully with the stand. I'll need to try with wire charging though to see if the issue is the same.
No such issue with my Pixel 5 Sorta Sage here in Australia. Sounds like a software glitch though. Had mine for 3 days now and it's been going really well. I'm also not seeing this "gap" issue that others have mentioned either.
After my pixel shutted down at 1% battery (24 hours standby and 7.5 hours of screen)
I put it to charge and turned it on and left it charging.
I came back later. And the phone was at 1% level still charging. With battery saver enabled
I restarted and the phone was already at 100%
What the hell is going on.
I used my Pixel 4 charger instead of Pixel 5 but they look like the same charger with type C power delivery
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Mine has this issue too - same with different adapters, but doesn't happen every time with the same adapter. When plugging in it will go up a couple of % over a few minutes, then gets stuck - it might go up another percent randomly here and there, but not at the "actual" rate that it's charging.
Restarting seems to force it to update to the correct charge percentage, but not to carry on increasing at the correct rate. Tempted by a factory reset!
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Mine has this issue too - same with different adapters, but doesn't happen every time with the same adapter. When plugging in it will go up a couple of % over a few minutes, then gets stuck - it might go up another percent randomly here and there, but not at the "actual" rate that it's charging.
Restarting seems to force it to update to the correct charge percentage, but not to carry on increasing at the correct rate. Tempted by a factory reset!
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Mine got stuck at 69% for over 12 hours, i had to do a factory reset for sending the phone back anyway and it was still at 69% after the factory reset. So i don't think factory reset will do any good. Probably a software bug they need to fix.
I've also just seen this, the charge indicator got stuck at 47%, when reconnected the charging cable, the charge indicator quickly got up to around 80% and then carried on at a normal pace.
Same here. Stuck at 44%, then 88%, then 100%, then 96%. Some people were suggesting that it's a bug related to the far-right icons in the customization of the launcher. Don't know if that's true but defenitely will give it a try
There is some update in Pixel forums. According to it, will be fixed in a future software update.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en&msgid=78785427
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