ok so my problem is that i have the original mytouch without the 3.5mm jack but i have an adapter that lets me use them which has a mic and button for play/pause
i want to know if there is any way to get something like skullcandy fmj(not those but just those as an example) to be able to to play/pause while connected to this
what i currently have the mic on the headset works but the play/pause button doesn't. the button on the adapter works only
is there anyway around this or am i stuck with the adapter?
sry if this has been asked
Just Curious, What adapter are you using?
better go and spent your money for bluetooth headphones... Adapter's have low durability ... and headphones have problems with jack/cables
i bought a brand new nokia bh-503 and im 100% satisfied
korzenio said:
better go and spent your money for bluetooth headphones... Adapter's have low durability ... and headphones have problems with jack/cables
i bought a brand new nokia bh-503 and im 100% satisfied
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This would be good for general listening. I don't think this is very good for running with. Also, many inexpensive headphones (3.5mm) have very good dynamic range and noise cancellation for low cost. I have not found a good sports bluetooth headphone yet. Secondly, the battery life of bluetooth has to be considered, what will you do when your battery is low?
yguns76 said:
What will you do when your battery is low?
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Charge it!
I am looking for an adaptor/buetooth headphones with remote and a display. Any suggestions?
where can I buy one of these?
In case anyone is interested, it's free for a short time. I would have posted this in the free apps thread, but it was closed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apptrio.hi_fi_status
Have no idea why, but this app break my fingerprint unlock. After uninstall everything back to normal.
Yes, downloaded it today
Dizzyrul3z said:
Have no idea why, but this app break my fingerprint unlock. After uninstall everything back to normal.
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Try again? That doesn't happen on any of the three LG V30 I have it installed on.
Hi, just tried this but didn't recognise the standard LG headphones which are high impedance.
Looks like a novelty anyway as no actual settings in app.
Uninstalled.
gazzacbr said:
Hi, just tried this but didn't recognise the standard LG headphones which are high impedance.
Looks like a novelty anyway as no actual settings in app.
Uninstalled.
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The standard LG headphones aren't high impedance. Sorry.
They are as they trigger the lg dac message
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They are as they trigger the lg dac message
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But the "best" settings are reserved for High Impedance Mode.
That's why @Whiskeyomega has a mod to force HIM with root.
You normally need 50 ohms impedance to trigger high impedance mode. That's why some people bought the 75 ohms jack to mate with their less than 50 ohms headsets (75 seems the least you can buy).
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DUN...5-ohm-For-Hi-Fi-Audio-player/32813442525.html
or you can buy headsets with 50 ohms or greater to get HIM.
Or you can use root to trigger that through @Whiskeyomega mod.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/fix-impedance-mode-time-t3729043
Yes, as I said, the standard headphones are more than 50 ohms, that's why they trigger the dac message. They do sound better when him is set.
Manually setting the him mode with my sennheiser cx-500i, which are only 18 ohms did not help the quality.
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Hi, just tried this but didn't recognise the standard LG headphones which are high impedance.
Looks like a novelty anyway as no actual settings in app.
Uninstalled.
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My LG headphones which came with my V30+ are NOT high impedance. Are you speaking of the "B&O" branded headphones or the "LG" branded headphones? Depends on where you buy your V30+. In North America, we got "LG" branded headphones, while other places got "B&O" branded headphones . NEITHER are 50 ohms or more and neither trigger High Impedence Mode.
So, I bought high impedance headphones and I also have the 75 ohms adapter if I need it.
Hi, I have LG branded headphones. Bought my phone in Dubai, ARE dual sim version.
My H930 came with B&O headphones and they're definitely not high impedance headphones. And if they are, they're rubbish, because when you plug in proper high impedance headphones, you feel the difference instantly.
LG went full retard here. They brag about quad DAC and then they go and cheap out on headphones. Ridiculous.
The headphones that came with my girlfriend's ancient Galaxy S4 mini sound better than these quasi premium B&O thingies.
Having said that, a cool app this.
Now a question. A friend of mine has a pair of Audio Technica m50x headphones that he wants to sell. They're not high impedance so if I decide to buy them from him I'll need to get an adapter. Besides cranking up the volume to the max, is there any other danger driving low impedance headphones with an adapter in high impedance mode?
Zoombaya said:
My H930 came with B&O headphones and they're definitely not high impedance headphones. And if they are, they're rubbish, because when you plug in proper high impedance headphones, you feel the difference instantly.
LG went full retard here. They brag about quad DAC and then they go and cheap out on headphones. Ridiculous.
The headphones that came with my girlfriend's ancient Galaxy S4 mini sound better than these quasi premium B&O thingies.
Having said that, a cool app this.
Now a question. A friend of mine has a pair of Audio Technica m50x headphones that he wants to sell. They're not high impedance so if I decide to buy them from him I'll need to get an adapter. Besides cranking up the volume to the max, is there any other danger driving low impedance headphones with an adapter in high impedance mode?
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https://www.toa.jp/soundoh_wiki/index.php?Difference between low and high impedance speakers?
Thanks for the link. All clear now. So I guess I'll order a pair of Soundmagic 50c (or 80c), since everyone's praising them for their quality output.
Does anybody know what the audio is like on the n9. N8 was impressive. Anybody found details on the n9?
Thanks
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I am waiting to hear that too, I ordered mine. I had a V20 before and it was brilliant.
Probably Cirrus Logic CS47L93 as with Exynos S9. GSMArena's measurements are very promising but I take them with a grain of salt. I'm still wondering about output voltage though, as PhoneArena hasn't done the measurement for the Note 9, although it was measured at 0.75V for the S9. That should be decent enough for most consumer-level headphones but still lower than past iPhones or HTCs that had headphone jacks, or LG V-series.
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Probably Cirrus Logic CS47L93 as with Exynos S9. GSMArena's measurements are very promising but I take them with a grain of salt. I'm still wondering about output voltage though, as PhoneArena hasn't done the measurement for the Note 9, although it was measured at 0.75V for the S9. That should be decent enough for most consumer-level headphones but still lower than past iPhones or HTCs that had headphone jacks, or LG V-series.
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I am not sure about wired big headphones, but the volume from the headphone jack is pretty good on the bundles AKG's. The HTC 10 etc are something else, but I wasn't impressed with the ourput from iphones or the V series DAC's. Not enough volume.
htc10>Note9
so going from my htc10 to note 9 is a step down?
kindly do let us know.
thanks.
In my opinion, I don't think it's a step down in real audio quality to the ear on the snapdragon. The HTC doesn't perform as good as an external DAC, IMO and I don't notice a big difference on the devices. I had the same questions, being a lifelong HTC guy. But if you've got more sensitive ears than me or different audio profiles you may hear a difference.
I use the ear-studio ES-100 portable DAC and Bluetooth DAC and if you go that route, I highly recommend it.
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well other than audio i need a decent camera and good battery life.
htc is failing in the last department.(Battery)...
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so going from my htc10 to note 9 is a step down?
kindly do let us know.
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I think audio detail/clarity is pretty similar to the HTC10. The output is much weaker though. I have low impedance earphones so it's not much of a struggle. Higher impedance headphones may not achieve the same volume levels. I know GSM Arena rated the audio very highly if I remember. Not as good as the LG, but close.
well, that is my main concern, maybe it is my imagination but having the headphones pumping out music at half the maximum of the htc10 made me feel good...(i Know i'm weird)
i migrated from s6e+ to the htc10, day and night difference in audio quality between the two.
if the note9 can do better (at least better than the 10) i'd bag it. Oh Well maybe next year sammy
Like the S9, the DAC on the exynos version is probably a custom Cirrus Logic CS47L93 design and very highly regarded in the audiophile world (unlike the AqSTIC DAC in the snapdragon version).
Its almost identical pretty much to the fantastic CS43131: https://www.cirrus.com/products/cs43131/
However the DAC is only half the story. True amplification and impedance plays a big part when driving high powered earphones. But it is the audio tuning that is key. The reason why high end audio separates like Nad, Arcam and Cambridge Audio etc beat the still great quality of a SONOS is down to stellar audio engineering, crossover interference minimisation and high quality internals etc.
Samsung have actually done a decent job here. There is a difference in quality between their snapdragon and exynos (though they also tuned the Aqstic to the best if its capabilities to be fair, but the soundstage on the exynos is more apparent).
HTC 10 used Aqstic as well, but they use a Class D amp alongside it. Previously they only depended on using the integrated DACs for their SoC, usually with a Class D amp at ~1V. The Mediatek devices had a Wolfson DAC and the results were pretty comparable between them. That said, some reviewers did note that HTC's headphone output has clipping distortion at maximum volume (although it is said to be blaringly loud). I had the HTC Butterfly s before that and despite GSMArena giving it an outstanding audio, and it had this issue along with hissing. Its volume isn't particularly high either, and according to PhoneArena its output was only 0.35V, which is odd for an HTC. Also, its headphone jack wasn't very durable and got damaged when the cable got strained.
I'm still curious to see measurements from the Snapdragon Note 9 and the output voltage of the Note 9. S9/S9+ is 0.75V. I think the volume is excellent for IEMs, but for over-ear headphones it is still little low. Audio-Technica MSR7 is quite loud, but the Takstar Pro 82 and 1More MK802 still require a fair bit of volume to match it - all are 32 ohms. I also used the Sony Xperia Z5 which also had only 0.35V headphone output, but it was louder than the HTC at max volume without any bass clipping distortion. MSR7 was quite loud at maximum volume but the other two were borderline in terms of volume. The overall sound was brighter with a slight roll-off in the bass. Quite a few users complained about the DAC but I thought it wasn't too bad. I think the Note 9's is less brittle-sounding and more subtle with the treble, but still detailed. The headphone jack was also more durable than the HTC's although I've had an occasion where it temporarily failed on me and I needed to use SoundAbout to force detection (there were many complaints of such happening to Xperia phones). I'm wondering if Samsung Galaxy headphone jacks are more durable?
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HTC 10 used Aqstic as well, but they use a Class D amp alongside it. Previously they only depended on using the integrated DACs for their SoC, usually with a Class D amp at ~1V. The Mediatek devices had a Wolfson DAC and the results were pretty comparable between them. That said, some reviewers did note that HTC's headphone output has clipping distortion at maximum volume (although it is said to be blaringly loud). I had the HTC Butterfly s before that and despite GSMArena giving it an outstanding audio, and it had this issue along with hissing. Its volume isn't particularly high either, and according to PhoneArena its output was only 0.35V, which is odd for an HTC. Also, its headphone jack wasn't very durable and got damaged when the cable got strained.
I'm still curious to see measurements from the Snapdragon Note 9 and the output voltage of the Note 9. S9/S9+ is 0.75V. I think the volume is excellent for IEMs, but for over-ear headphones it is still little low. Audio-Technica MSR7 is quite loud, but the Takstar Pro 82 and 1More MK802 still require a fair bit of volume to match it - all are 32 ohms. I also used the Sony Xperia Z5 which also had only 0.35V headphone output, but it was louder than the HTC at max volume without any bass clipping distortion. MSR7 was quite loud at maximum volume but the other two were borderline in terms of volume. The overall sound was brighter with a slight roll-off in the bass. Quite a few users complained about the DAC but I thought it wasn't too bad. I think the Note 9's is less brittle-sounding and more subtle with the treble, but still detailed. The headphone jack was also more durable than the HTC's although I've had an occasion where it temporarily failed on me and I needed to use SoundAbout to force detection (there were many complaints of such happening to Xperia phones). I'm wondering if Samsung Galaxy headphone jacks are more durable?
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some good points of note here- see what i did there lol! . Also we must not forget how a more powerful headphone amp may have a hit on the battery as its essentially providing more power to the more hungry headphones available in the wilderness. The Note 9 is marketed more or less with the business user in mind. Battery priority (and we can debate til the cows come home about battery!) seems to be favouring other areas and its wired audiophile capabilities are not a main selling point...
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I am not sure about wired big headphones, but the volume from the headphone jack is pretty good on the bundles AKG's. The HTC 10 etc are something else, but I wasn't impressed with the ourput from iphones or the V series DAC's. Not enough volume.
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Then you should know about how to "trick" the LG phones with Quad DACs built-in into switching to their louder modes. The modes are: Normal device (lowest volume), Aux/External Device Detected (next louder), and High Impedance Mode (aka "HIM", the loudest).
How do you do this? There's a couple ways. If you want it just a LITTLE louder (Aux mode), connect the male side of a male 3.5mm to female 3.5mm adapter into the LG phone, and then connect the headphone jack into the female side of the adapter. Boom! Instant Aux mode!
Not loud enough?? lol Then buy a high impedance adapter off eBay like this one (MUST be the 75 ohm, or higher, but 75 ohm is better). This will put the phone into HIM and drive headphones up to 600 ohms. Just do the same process mentioned above for Aux.
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Then you should know about how to "trick" the LG phones with Quad DACs built-in into switching to their louder modes. The modes are: Normal device (lowest volume), Aux/External Device Detected (next louder), and High Impedance Mode (aka "HIM", the loudest).
How do you do this? There's a couple ways. If you want it just a LITTLE louder (Aux mode), connect the male side of a male 3.5mm to female 3.5mm adapter into the LG phone, and then connect the headphone jack into the female side of the adapter. Boom! Instant Aux mode!
Not loud enough?? lol Then buy a high impedance adapter off eBay like this one (MUST be the 75 ohm, or higher, but 75 ohm is better). This will put the phone into HIM and drive headphones up to 600 ohms. Just do the same process mentioned above for Aux.
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Adds more hardware into the signal path thus creating potential for static and getting a less clean background. I'd rather have less volume with clean signal than distortion or clipping.
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Adds more hardware into the signal path thus creating potential for static and getting a less clean background. I'd rather have less volume with clean signal than distortion or clipping.
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Potential, maybe. But I was doing the Aux method for several months on my LG V30, and I never heard ANY kind of static or distortion at all. The pros by far outweigh the cons here. Having that extra amp power strongly benefits the sound coming through your headphones.
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Potential, maybe. But I was doing the Aux method for several months on my LG V30, and I never heard ANY kind of static or distortion at all. The pros by far outweigh the cons here. Having that extra amp power strongly benefits the sound coming through your headphones.
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Having a low noise floor and ample headroom far outweigh potentials like static or loss of hearing because I want cannons, not speakers on my ears. Plus, I have a portable amp, JDS Labs CD5 which can make my Beyerdynamics COP or 770pro 250 ohms rattle my chest if I want to lose my hearing. ?
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Having a low noise floor and ample headroom far outweigh potentials like static or loss of hearing because I want cannons, not speakers on my ears. Plus, I have a portable amp, JDS Labs CD5 which can make my Beyerdynamics COP or 770pro 250 ohms rattle my chest if I want to lose my hearing.
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lol
That's always another option too, but the convenience that comes with only having one device should be considered too. And the V30's Quad DAC is pretty amazing. It was able to match up with my old $300 Oppo HA-2 amp/DAC device as well.
I got the DT 1770 Pro a few months ago and LOVE it too! Beyerdynamic makes some fantastic headphones!!
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That's always another option too, but the convenience that comes with only having one device should be considered too. And the V30's Quad DAC is pretty amazing. It was able to match up with my old $300 Oppo HA-2 amp/DAC device as well.
I got the DT 1770 Pro a few months ago and LOVE it too! Beyerdynamic makes some fantastic headphones!!
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My V20 is my DAP now. Plenty of volume with built in amp. The CD5 is pretty compact. Able to rubber band it with a phone easily but I've hardly used it since the V20. Yeah. I need to get some Beyerdynamics 600ohm or open headphones. I like both of mine but want something a little more airy or different.
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My V20 is my DAP now. Plenty of volume with built in amp. The CD5 is pretty compact. Able to rubber band it with a phone easily but I've hardly used it since the V20. Yeah. I need to get some Beyerdynamics 600ohm or open headphones. I like both of mine but want something a little more airy or different.
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Yeah the volume I get from HIM is just right for me too ftw.
Yes the Quad DAC has made things a bit easier. I don't know if my next phone will be LG but if it's not I will very likely just get this bad boy........the Radsone ES100, which several ppl on Head-Fi and Amazon customer reviewers have stated sounds better than their former wired setup (with amp/DAC). I think the secret is that it has a DUAL DAC setup, and LDAC ftw. We'll see. Or else the wired Sabaj Da3, which several ppl have claimed outdoes the AudioQuest DragonFly Red. Though with the latter (Da3) I would have to carry my charger with me if I go long distance or into the city which I frequently do. lol
I've never tried any of their 600 ohm ones. I went through MANY headphones over the last 4 years to get to where I'm at now. I'm in NO hurry to upgrade anytime soon, though if I did, it would most likely be the MrSpeakers AEON Flow closed, or else Esther-C. I travel by train into the city a lot as I'd mentioned, so open-back doesn't work for me. lol
Do any of those amps have the Asahi Kasei 4458 or 4490? I would love to hear the 4490s in a phone tuned proper. I have a microprocessor with the 4458 and it is damn good. And the 4490 is better.
I wonder is Samsung peeks over Motorola's shoulder. Battery mods would actually be pretty cool for note series. An extra few mm ergonomic battery mods would serve as a good base for sketching and drawing on a tablet especially. The note9 would rock the boat with Dex and a decent 1080p projector. Stackable mod with speakers. Or Asahi Kasei 4490/4458 DAC headphone amp.
With battery mods that can easily swap batteries to recycle, make them stackable and polish Dex even more along with other endeavors. Hear me Samsung? Good hardware and software long term ideas. It will be done.
Sorry I am reading the Paris Agreement. ???