Curious if Spen from note 9 will be compatible with Note8
Phone seems to be the same it has only slightly bigger display
klisza1993 said:
Curious if Spen from note 9 will be compatible with Note8
Phone seems to be the same it has only slightly bigger display
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If you're talking about the button, to push to launch camera and take photos and such, then no. The pen sends a trigger to the phone via bluetooth and the firmware on the phone then translate them to certain functions. It won't work out of the box, but it might be possible to port the features through custom ROMS. I'm not 100% on that, though.
With a custom ROM maybe, but it won't be able to charge. It should work as a normal Spen though, so if you dig the bright yellow (why?) you can use it for aesthetic reasons. No bluetooth functions on stock though, and no charging.
The BT S Pen is pretty useless to me. I would never pull my S Pen and take a shot I can just use bixby voice for camera.
Pretty curious too id love to get my hands on that yellow spen and put it in my note 8 xd because i think we would be able to port most of the features of the note 9 with a custom rom im only wondering could we be able to use the new spen ?
This is a pretty dumb question lmao... you think Samsung would allow Note 8 users to buy the S pen separately and have it work on the note 8? That defeats the whole purpose of the hardware changes in the note 9.
ZyroKewl said:
Pretty curious too id love to get my hands on that yellow spen and put it in my note 8 xd because i think we would be able to port most of the features of the note 9 with a custom rom im only wondering could we be able to use the new spen
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe the Note9 SPen is a tiny, tiny bit bigger than the Note8's, so it might not fit in the SPen dock. Also, as niallasher said, it won't be able to charge on your Note8, so it would be pretty pointless, anyway. You'd need a Note9 to charge it, in which case, you might as well get and use a Note9.
The new note 9 spen has a capacitor in it that is charged when inside the note 9 itself. I would doubt that charge port would exist in the note 8, then you would end up with just a yellow spen.
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Probably not. If you want to use the Note 9's Spen features then no. It will probably work as a regular Spen
I tried in a Samsung store the Note9 s Pen and no detection on my Note8. I could try everything, trigger Air command or just use it to swipe pages, it doesn't work. I think that it can't be used on older Note devices
Yes, spen from note9 is charaged from inside a phone. But i think it is done by wirless charaging so what if you will use wirless charager to charage a phone and maybe it also work for spen itself.
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Maybe its done by software.
I'm wondering if it uses the same technology as the one that detects the phone.
@deepseaturtle: Did you have your N8 Spen removed/taken out when trying the N9 Spen, or disable the Spen Power Saver feature?
It was out indeed because I wanted to see if it fits inside and the only option that was turned on about S Pen detection is the alarm when it's far from the phone
deepseaturtle said:
It was out indeed because I wanted to see if it fits inside and the only option that was turned on about S Pen detection is the alarm when it's far from the phone
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Wait did you try to put the note 9spen in our phone? Did it fit?
ZyroKewl said:
Wait did you try to put the note 9spen in our phone? Did it fit?
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The store put an anti-theft system on the Pen so I wasn't able to put it fully, but it seems to fit somehow on the phone
deepseaturtle said:
I tried in a Samsung store the Note9 s Pen and no detection on my Note8. I could try everything, trigger Air command or just use it to swipe pages, it doesn't work. I think that it can't be used on older Note devices
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I just tried the note 9 spen on my note 8 and it work like a regular note 8 spen. Can write, go through screens, etc. But the bluetooth functions nope it won't work. And the n9 spen is taller then the n8 spen so it's going to stick out of the note 8.
BluePhnx said:
I just tried the note 9 spen on my note 8 and it work like a regular note 8 spen. Can write, go through screens, etc. But the bluetooth functions nope it won't work. And the n9 spen is taller then the n8 spen so it's going to stick out of the note 8.
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Damn ? i was thinking of buying that yellow spen and using it on note 8 i was thinking all of those Bluetooth features are software and can be ported on custom roms
BluePhnx said:
I just tried the note 9 spen on my note 8 and it work like a regular note 8 spen. Can write, go through screens, etc. But the bluetooth functions nope it won't work. And the n9 spen is taller then the n8 spen so it's going to stick out of the note 8.
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Thanks !!
So I assume the S Pen was either not detected by my phone or I did this wrong.
So now we can be sure it works !
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I was wondering if the New Note 9 S Pen will work and fit with the Note 8. I have a Note 8 and love it. From what I have read of the Note 9 specs, there is little need for me to upgrade.
Much larger battery
Slightly larger screen but same resolution
Better camera but its only better because of the updated software
More drive space
And an S Pen that (shoots freakin laser beams) has Bluetooth support
Those are great upgrades, but I do not feel like spending close to $1000 two years in a row. I kept the Note 7 S Pens when I returned the explosive phones multiple times in case I wanted backups. They work fine with the Note 8 even though their spec were supposed to be slightly upgraded. I would love it if I could get my hands on an Note 9 S Pen and be able to use it with my Note 8 without having to buy a whole new phone. I especially love the feature of taking a picture with the S Pen.
Does anybody have any thoughts or insight on this?
Looking at the Note 9 S-Pen I doubt all the functionalities will work with the N8, like the S-Pen charging or even working as a Bluetooth device as with the N9. It may not even fit.
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it need be charged. i guess it cant be full working on note 8. when it was low/out of battery, it would become note 8 spen?
Find a way to charge the pen and I don't see why we can't use it with a note 8
kurrupt_1 said:
Looking at the Note 9 S-Pen I doubt all the functionalities will work with the N8, like the S-Pen charging or even working as a Bluetooth device as with the N9. It may not even fit.
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Yeah another poster said the new pen is longer than the one on the Note 8 so it may not fit or might stick out.
It would probably work as a normal S-Pen. But without the bluetooth functions.
I have tested on both the Note 8 and Note 9. They won't work with each other. The Note 9's S Pen can't do anything on the Note 8' screen, even it's just a little touch or swipe.
Thanks for the feedback. That is a little disappointing but I guess I can wait. Samsung upgrades their phones just a little bit every year with just one great new feature to get me to consider the upgrade. Smart business plan. I wonder is a third party S Pen with Bluetooth will be developed to work with Note 8. That would be rad.
thangbithit said:
I have tested on both the Note 8 and Note 9. They won't work with each other. The Note 9's S Pen can't do anything on the Note 8' screen, even it's just a little touch or swipe.
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That's not right, I tried it at a Samsung store a couple days ago and it worked just fine as a plain EMR pen. I couldn't test fit since the pen was in a holder though.
Charging the pen capacitor likely won't work on a note 8, but it'll still work as a normal wacom pen.
The note 9 pen is bigger. It doesn't fit in the note 8
This is a really dumb question. You think samsung would allow note 8 users to use the note 9 pen... theres a whole reason why they're pushing the note 9. It's not even the same internals anymore.
Dchoi229 said:
This is a really dumb question. You think samsung would allow note 8 users to use the note 9 pen... theres a whole reason why they're pushing the note 9. It's not even the same internals anymore.
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Not a dumb question and apparently it does work (but won't charge or fit in note 8 of course).
sefrcoko said:
Not a dumb question and apparently it does work (but won't charge or fit in note 8 of course).
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Lol in terms of being able to use it as a stylus I'm sure it works fine. The whole point of that note 9 pen is for the functions... if you can't charge the pen or fit it back into the phone wouldn't you say its supposed to be meant for the Note 9. It's a dumb question ...
Dchoi229 said:
Lol in terms of being able to use it as a stylus I'm sure it works fine. The whole point of that note 9 pen is for the functions... if you can't charge the pen or fit it back into the phone wouldn't you say its supposed to be meant for the Note 9. It's a dumb question ...
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Of course the note 9 pen is meant for the note 9 lol, no one is questioning that . OP's question did lead to the clarifications on the level of interchangability between the note 8 and note 9 pens, which some found helpful. If you think it's dumb, well, thanks for telling us how you feel! Otherwise, I don't see any added value there... Moving on [emoji41]
sefrcoko said:
Of course the note 9 pen is meant for the note 9 lol, no one is questioning that . OP's question did lead to the clarifications on the level of interchangability between the note 8 and note 9 pens, which some found helpful. If you think it's dumb, well, thanks for telling us how you feel! Otherwise, I don't see any added value there... Moving on [emoji41]
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There's no value from what you're saying either. yea.. moving on lmao
Yes.. the pen fits well on both n8 and vice versa
Just not tested yet the blutooth function
thangbithit said:
I have tested on both the Note 8 and Note 9. They won't work with each other. The Note 9's S Pen can't do anything on the Note 8' screen, even it's just a little touch or swipe.
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There's actually a battery saving option on the Note phones that lets you turn off the S-Pen touch detection while the stylus is inside the phone. I noticed this as well at a store where the Note 8 pen didnt work on my Note 4 until I took out the pen from my Note 4. The option also exists on the Note 8. When you turn the option it off you can use your extra S-Pen's while the original is still inside the phone (I believe it's turned off by default actually, not sure though)
need to appear smart?
Dchoi229 said:
This is a really dumb question. You think samsung would allow note 8 users to use the note 9 pen... theres a whole reason why they're pushing the note 9. It's not even the same internals anymore.
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That is a really dumb answer. I could say for example newer MS surface pens are working on older devices; so why not asking if the newer note pen works on older devices. But that is not my point. The point is rather that your need to appear smart by degrading others.
MightyMinski said:
That is a really dumb answer. I could say for example newer MS surface pens are working on older devices; so why not asking if the newer note pen works on older devices. But that is not my point. The point is rather that your need to appear smart by degrading others.
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Never tried to "appear" to look smart. Just stating something that's obvious. I don't see why the pen wouldn't work in terms of navigating through the phone with the actual touch of the stylus. The functionalities obvs wouldnt work. Anyways I'm moving on. Peace.
MightyMinski said:
That is a really dumb answer. I could say for example newer MS surface pens are working on older devices; so why not asking if the newer note pen works on older devices. But that is not my point. The point is rather that your need to appear smart by degrading others.
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Point taken. For some this is a learned behavior. Still, it is emotional abuse. I would watch that kind of language. This is a great community. It would be even sad to lose someone to emotional abuse or harassment. Make no mistake. It will not be tolerated. Take the high road. Be the better person. Peace.
Hello,to all
Can we use note 9 spen in note 8 by install spen remote app in note 8
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I'm not sure what s-pen remote app you're talking about. So, without knowing what it is or what it does, I'm still going to say no, you can't use the Note9 pen on the Note8, aside from the basic features that you can already do with your own pen. The bluetooth features won't work.
mahaveersoni said:
Hello,to all
Can we use note 9 spen in note 8 by install spen remote app in note 8
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No the S9 pen does not work in the Note 8.
touch does not work, nor does the Bluetooth features.
I mean even if you where magically able to get it to work, you would be faced with the issue on how to charge the Spen.......
i tried and touch working on note 8 but i didn't test bluetooth feature yet
and the note 9 spen will not fit in the note 8's slot. tried it as i have the 9 while my wife has the 8. the note 9 spen will only go through like a fifth of the length and stop. the note 8 spen, being smaller, locks in the note 9 slot but is kind of loose internally. something to do with the note 9's spen being more rectangular as opposed to the note 8's curvier pen.
mahaveersoni said:
Hello,to all
Can we use note 9 spen in note 8 by install spen remote app in note 8
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Touch is working but all other stuff do not.. and it can't fit inside so you can't charge it
mahaveersoni said:
Hello,to all
Can we use note 9 spen in note 8 by install spen remote app in note 8
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it pairs the pen in slot. So you cant plug the note 9 pen to note 8 pen slot. its fatter.
Hi All,
I have misplaced the Spen and dont wish to spend 50USD on the replacement.
I hardly use the Spen so was thinking if the note 5/note8 fit in the note 9.
They are easily available for 5USDs online on aliexpress.
kedarwalke said:
Hi All,
I have misplaced the Spen and dont wish to spend 50USD on the replacement.
I hardly use the Spen so was thinking if the note 5/note8 fit in the note 9.
They are easily available for 5USDs online on aliexpress.
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I think you could get the 9 s pen for a bit less than that on eBay, but I have seen people mention in these forums that the note 8 pen does fit in the 9.
Just forget about the bluetooth features though... The Note 8 S-Pen doesn't support those...
I still have my Note 7 s-pen and the Note 9 screen doesn't respond to touches from it at all.
ryant35 said:
I still have my Note 7 s-pen and the Note 9 screen doesn't respond to touches from it at all.
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Is your Note 9 S-Pen still in your phone? Your phone turns off the digitizer if the S-Pen is in the silo.
You can turn it off by going to:
Settings > advanced > S-Pen > Poswer saver
kedarwalke said:
Hi All,
I have misplaced the Spen and dont wish to spend 50USD on the replacement.
I hardly use the Spen so was thinking if the note 5/note8 fit in the note 9.
They are easily available for 5USDs online on aliexpress.
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I think it will fit as both have exact same dimensions, just be cautious no to force it. Note 8 s-pen works only in screen off (black screen) mode, not with regular screen on.
_Dennis_ said:
Is your Note 9 S-Pen still in your phone? Your phone turns off the digitizer if the S-Pen is in the silo.
You can turn it off by going to:
Settings > advanced > S-Pen > Poswer saver
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Yes it was... I just tried my Tab S3 pen and it works on the Note 9.
I can confirm, the Note 8 S-Pen does NOT work on the Note 9. Samsung likely wanted people to buy new accessories.
Guyinlaca said:
I can confirm, the Note 8 S-Pen does NOT work on the Note 9. Samsung likely wanted people to buy new accessories.
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BS
of course it works! you either never tried or did not remove the n9 spen from the phone before testing the n8 pen
and it fits in the phone too.
everyone stating otherwise are BS ing.
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Dpk1 said:
... not with regular screen on.
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BS
Guyinlaca said:
I can confirm, the Note 8 S-Pen does NOT work on the Note 9. Samsung likely wanted people to buy new accessories.
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Yes the note 8 pen works with note 9 you just have to take note9 spen out
I was very lucky to find my spen back,cant express how happy i feel!!
kedarwalke said:
I was very lucky to find my spen back,cant express how happy i feel!!
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It can be useful to enable this setting, it
can help prevent losing it again
paul_59 said:
It can be useful to enable this setting, it
can help prevent losing it again
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This feature works great
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Hello to all, I had a doubt about the fact that, with the latest version of Air-Command ( 4.1.01) installed on the Note 9 and the pairing with the S-pen of the note 10/10+ the new gestures could work. I currently don't have a S-pen 10 or 10+ so I ask you if you can do this simple test to see if it works.:good:
Anyway the note 10s spen won't fit in the note 9s housing for his spen... so, even if it might work, won't be useful.
joedellosso69 said:
Anyway the note 10s spen won't fit in the note 9s housing for his spen... so, even if it might work, won't be useful.
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Yes you are certainly right, but in case you need those gestures, you can bring a S-pen with you, it should not be difficult for anyone. And this is a test only for knowledge.
So my note 9 pen damaged I don't want to spend a huge amount of money on a new one, I found that the the note 8 pen is pretty cheap I was wondering whether it will fit in the silo. also other than Bluetooth connectivity are there any difference between the two?
Note 9 pen is slightly larger than the Note 8 one - size wise yes, it will fit, but it will likely be loose and fall out unless held in by something.
I know for a fact that the Note 9's S-Pen fits in the Note 8. So the Note 8's S-Pen should fit in the Note 9 without any issues. As you have stated the only differences between the two S-Pen's is that the Note 9 has Bluetooth features. Otherwise they are both function the exact same
I have the spare note 8 S pen and it won't work with my note 9. Not sure if it's a bluetooth thing picking up the 9 pen but either way my little test didn't work. Could be doing something wrong but might be worth testing out before spending money and it not work.
macgyver40 said:
I have the spare note 8 S pen and it won't work with my note 9. Not sure if it's a bluetooth thing picking up the 9 pen but either way my little test didn't work. Could be doing something wrong but might be worth testing out before spending money and it not work.
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Check your S-pen settings. There is one that allows multiple pens to work. I believe it is off by default...
Have the Notes 8, 9 & 10+, S-pen from each works on all...
older model spen will not work on newer models. I have tried that. Like my note 3 note 4 pen did not work on note 9. but note 9 pen worked on note 3 and note 4. same is the case with note 8. You can use note 9 pen on note 8 but not opposite. sorry for my bad english. hope it will help.
Munawar Mehmood said:
older model spen will not work on newer models. I have tried that. Like my note 3 note 4 pen did not work on note 9. but note 9 pen worked on note 3 and note 4. same is the case with note 8. You can use note 9 pen on note 8 but not opposite. sorry for my bad english. hope it will help.
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Bulldust... As I said above, Note 8 S-pen works on Note 9 and 10+... And vice versa...
I also have the ORIGINAL NOTE from waaaay back and that S-pen ALSO works on ALL the models listed...
The base tech HAS NOT CHANGED...
Check you settings for the S-pen as there is a setting to use multiple S-pens that must be turned on otherwise, if an S-pen is docked and you try to use another S-pen, the touches won't register...
The ONLY thing that won't work is, of course, the bluetooth stuff as the older models didn't have this...
Long story short, S-pen from any Note series phone WILL work on any other Note AS LONG AS THAT PESKY SETTING IS CHANGED...
Anyone who says different is wrong unless talking about the bluetooth part. That is hardware and model specific...
It means they haven't looked at the S-pen settings and changed it.
ultramag69 said:
Bulldust... As I said above, Note 8 S-pen works on Note 9 and 10+... And vice versa...
I also have the ORIGINAL NOTE from waaaay back and that S-pen ALSO works on ALL the models listed...
The base tech HAS NOT CHANGED...
Check you settings for the S-pen as there is a setting to use multiple S-pens that must be turned on otherwise, if an S-pen is docked and you try to use another S-pen, the touches won't register...
The ONLY thing that won't work is, of course, the bluetooth stuff as the older models didn't have this...
Long story short, S-pen from any Note series phone WILL work on any other Note AS LONG AS THAT PESKY SETTING IS CHANGED...
Anyone who says different is wrong unless talking about the bluetooth part. That is hardware and model specific...
It means they haven't looked at the S-pen settings and changed it.
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I did look and didn't like the battery warning. I also left the 9 pen in the other room. Could be a counterfeit note8 pen. Like I said spare.
Thanks for the info. It's good to know. Will see what happens when I change the settings and test that pen. Guessing I bought it off Amazon lol.
macgyver40 said:
I did look and didn't like the battery warning. I also left the 9 pen in the other room. Could be a counterfeit note8 pen. Like I said spare.
Thanks for the info. It's good to know. Will see what happens when I change the settings and test that pen. Guessing I bought it off Amazon lol.
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Shouldn't matter as long as it has the wacom tech like an original S-pen... I have a heap of cheap 3rd party s-pens lying around I bought for the 9 a long time ago on ebay. They all work but as they don't have the bluetooth part that of course doesn't work on the 9 and 10+.
I also have a note 10.1, 10.1(2014 edition) and a Tab S4. These pens are also interchangeable...
Cheers guys...
Should also note, if the original S-pen is removed from the phone, ANY S-pen should work whether the setting is for multiple or not... If you are trying out the S-pen with your original in the phone it is detected and the 2nd pen won't work. Try removing your original pen and try with the replacement. It will also work. No need to change setting then and worry about battery warning...