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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note LTE Detective Case?

Samsung Galaxy Note Korean Version SHV E160S clears FCC
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=977164&fcc_id='A3LSHVE160S
This FCC clearance is only validated with bluetooth communication.
If this is the Korean version why is it clearing with the FCC
if it is the Korean version? Maybe a just in case we decide to release in the US?
Does this imply as has been speculated as well that the Samsung Galaxy Note Korean version will have LTE? And compatibility with AT&T LTE? Will there be incompatibility with the Samsung Exynos processor and LTE, so it will include the Qualcomm's Snapdragon S3? I personally prefer the Exynos as it tests better then the Qualcomm.
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As well another version US(?) GT-i9220 only HSPA+(only as if that was crazy slow, haha) cleared the FCC:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...=N&application_id=258095&fcc_i d='A3LGTI9220'
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Tired of these games by the carriers and manufactures!
I just want a clear answer is AT&T getting a LTE version of the note
within the next 3 months? And if not will the Korean version have LTE compatibility
with AT&T LTE? And when will the Korean version be released?
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Any other detectives work shared appreciated?
Please no speculation without some facts as there is plenty of that already.
Thanks

isimme said:
Samsung Galaxy Note Korean Version SHV E160S clears FCC
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=977164&fcc_id='A3LSHVE160S
This FCC clearance is only validated with bluetooth communication.
If this is the Korean version why is it clearing with the FCC
if it is the Korean version? Maybe a just in case we decide to release in the US?
Does this imply as has been speculated as well that the Samsung Galaxy Note Korean version will have LTE? And compatibility with AT&T LTE? Will there be incompatibility with the Samsung Exynos processor and LTE, so it will include the Qualcomm's Snapdragon S3? I personally prefer the Exynos as it tests better then the Qualcomm.
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As well another version US(?) GT-i9220 only HSPA+(only as if that was crazy slow, haha) cleared the FCC:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...=N&application_id=258095&fcc_i d='A3LGTI9220'
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Tired of these games by the carriers and manufactures!
I just want a clear answer is AT&T getting a LTE version of the note
within the next 3 months? And if not will the Korean version have LTE compatibility
with AT&T LTE? And when will the Korean version be released?
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Any other detectives work shared appreciated?
Please no speculation without some facts as there is plenty of that already.
Thanks
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The Note came out in EU in the beginning of NOV, add 8 months to that for the release date in the US
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I can't imagine at&t releasing a non lte note now that they launched the skyrocket. I've been wrong before...

I think the official ATT version will have LTE and it will arrive sometime after it's released in Korea. I'd earlier anticipated the USA release as before mid December but time will tell.
I almost bought an imported unlocked Note last week but when Newegg didn't have it in stock I decided to wait and if there is news shortly about an LTE Note I think I'll hold off a little longer.
I do hope the LTE version has an even bigger battery and comes out of the box with ICS...
Brian

I'll defiantly buy an AT&T LTE if it comes out. I can handme down my UK Note to my mom & get her on an unlimited dumbphone plan.

I would buy an Note if it Ran on AT&T and had HSPA+ and AT&T's upcoming flavor of LTE.

hello there... i'm new to the site but found this post while Googling for details on the Korean version of the Note. i'm actually getting mine tomorrow, most likely. I also have an iPhone with AT&T in the US. i'm also going to the US in a couple days for work. if there's something you'd like me to try out with the Note, let me know.

You're getting the Korean version of the Note?
I think what a lot of us would like to know is if the Korean version will support T-Mobile's 3G data bands. I've personally got a very favorable plan, and don't want to ditch it--but really want the Note.

malefactor said:
You're getting the Korean version of the Note?
I think what a lot of us would like to know is if the Korean version will support T-Mobile's 3G data bands. I've personally got a very favorable plan, and don't want to ditch it--but really want the Note.
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yep. i'm getting the Samsung Note... Korean version sometime tomorrow or the next day. it'll be my first Android phone.
unfortunately, i have an AT&T acct in the US so i wont be able to check compatibility with T-Mobile. i'll see when i get back to NYC on NYE if any of my friends do.

meanhoe said:
yep. i'm getting the Samsung Note... Korean version sometime tomorrow or the next day. it'll be my first Android phone.
unfortunately, i have an AT&T acct in the US so i wont be able to check compatibility with T-Mobile. i'll see when i get back to NYC on NYE if any of my friends do.
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Could you please tell us how much it cost you? and does it support NFC?
BR

meanhoe said:
hello there... i'm new to the site but found this post while Googling for details on the Korean version of the Note. i'm actually getting mine tomorrow, most likely. I also have an iPhone with AT&T in the US. i'm also going to the US in a couple days for work. if there's something you'd like me to try out with the Note, let me know.
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@ meanhoe:
Thanks for your generous offer.
Please can you let us know if your Korean Note works with AT&T's LTE,
does it have NFC,
and if you feel comfortable the cost you paid(subsidized or unsubsidized)?

yes it supports NFC. i'm having some issues getting the APN to work on my AT&T acct.

This should be well known/easy, but it's not. Please correct me where I'm wrong.
Everything I've been able to find tells me T-mobile 3g operates on 1700/2100 bands. This may be dependent on region. (so one area uses 2100, one area uses 1700)
This is not the same as AT&T.
SK Telecom operates on the UMTS 2100 band. So there MIGHT be compatibility with T-Mobile here. But my fear is it's only partial compatibility, so an $800 phone might work at full speed in only half the US T-mobile areas. If there's a handy map to point out what bands are used where, I'd appreciate it.
So I think, on AT&T, your SK Telecom note will be able to connect GPRS and EDGE. But not 3g. If you get a T-mobile SIM, you might be able to connect, depending..

t-mobile 1700
You're close, T-Mobile 3g requires BOTH 1700 and 2100 to work. It downloads on 2100 and then uploads on 1700. It MUST make a FULL cycle or T-Mobile will assume that your phone is unable to connect on 3g and bump you down to edge.
So, meanhoe, you could toss in a T-Mobile sim and boot. If you get 3g, that would be great, but more likely you will only get edge. Then you could go to your frequencies/bands menu and turn on 1700 and see if you can get 3g then. But the people that have tried had to do a factory reset when it didn't work, so that doesn't sound like fun.
Thanks for your help meanhoe!
-GT

Importing from korea the LTE version
Does anybody know how to import the Galaxy Note LTE SHV-E160S from Korea ?
I search everywhere.... but since I don't speak Korean it makes it more conplicated !!!!
Or if anybody sells it somewhere ? (...like before christmass!!!!)
Thanks

I would like to know this too, where can I import/buy one?

Korean LTE in 800 MHZ frequency range, AT&T runs in 700MHZ
From what I have read the Korean GNote wil not support AT&T USA LTE.
I may be wroing here but ....

at least one thing for sure, my SK-Telecom Galaxy Note LTE does not connect to 3G network for neither T-Mobile nor AT&T.
LTE is not covered in my area, so couldn't test on that.

note 4 exynos preorders/availability

Does anybody know where we can get a hold of this device? the exynos version. I am in canada and contacted gsmnation as well as expansys.ca both have stated snapdragon 805. GSMnation told me that they get both versions but when you pre order its random which one you get. Anyways does anyone live in canada and know where to pick up the exynos version? thanks. Lets post all the sites here that we find with the exynos. Thanks guys.

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Does anybody know where we can get a hold of this device? the exynos version. I am in canada and contacted gsmnation as well as expansys.ca both have stated snapdragon 805. GSMnation told me that they get both versions but when you pre order its random which one you get. Anyways does anyone live in canada and know where to pick up the exynos version? thanks. Lets post all the sites here that we find with the exynos. Thanks guys.
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Try eBay as there are load of Korea sellers who ship the exynos version of Samsung smartphones... Try this seller (msg him for octa core note 4) i purchased a octa core Galaxy S4 from him awesome service and super fast postage clickme

KindaJackedForANerd said:
Does anybody know where we can get a hold of this device? the exynos version. I am in canada and contacted gsmnation as well as expansys.ca both have stated snapdragon 805. GSMnation told me that they get both 630845532464783 but when you pre order its random which one you get. Anyways does anyone live in canada and know where to pick up the exynos version? thanks. Lets post all the sites here that we find with the exynos. Thanks guys.
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NCIX often brings in the unlocked international models of phones for Canada but I'm not sure if it's the generic international one or ones from the UK (and I'm not sure but the UK might be getting Snapdragon).
Outside of Canada 28mobile.com often stocks the hard to get rare versions such as the Korean ones and I believe international models.
Then of course there is expansys that seems to usually get international models as well, even though they quoted you Snapdragon I've always seen them stock both models of phones on their website.
Keep in mind that the international model will most likely only have LTE band 2600MHz for bands that will work in Canada which is also limited to only a select few city with Roger's and Bell, not to mention that it's signal penatration will be weak and not work in buildings.
It's possible we might see more bands on the international model that will work in Canada but usually this is not the case and your best getting the local one for full LTE support.

International vs T-Mobile

I am looking to buy another Note 4 and was wondering what the pros and cons of each where. Also will the international work on T-mobile without issue? I tried searching for the answers before I made this post (I may just do a poor job searching) and only found speculation post before the phones were released. I know with my T-Mobile Note 4 it seems it overheats from time to time if I am downloading a torrent and I found an article about Samsung dropping the 810 because of "overheating fears".
Thanks for any advice or information in advance.

910U taiwan is awesome. no issues.

Im on the tmober and am actually overclocked to the max.. zero problems...

Using n910c on tmobile works fine had n910p on sprint that model had overheating problems
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Buy the T-Mobile variant if you live in the states and use T-Mobile or any of its affiliate MNVO's.
Buy the T-Mobile variant if you live in the states and want the warranty via T-Mobile / Samsung.
Buy the T-Mobile variant if you live in the states or live abroad and want true GSM bands and or want to root.
Don't Buy the T-Mobile variant if you're concerned with overheating (Common byproduct of Snapdragon SoC's)
Buy the SM-910C instead, and be aware, of its CAT4 LTE Modem, Lack of Warranty (if buying and living in the States), and Exynos Chipset (Some say performs a tad bit better), but lesser ROM Development; still caries most of the bands the T-Mobile Snapdragon variant and is GSM-ready.

Get Tmo, it has an insane amount of dev going on for it.

Excatly! :good:
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Get Tmo, it has an insane amount of dev going on for it.
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Thank you all so much, I got another T-Mobile one.

Will U.S. Amazon site get INT'L Xperia X Perf at the same time as other countries???

Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!

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Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!
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check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.

kms108 said:
check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.
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kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???

RockStar2005 said:
kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???
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VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.

kms108 said:
VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.
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kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!

RockStar2005 said:
kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!
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I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem, HK only has the dual sim version, the second sim is a hybrid sim/micro sd, but that isn't a problem as I can get them both working together.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100

kms108 said:
I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
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kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around me can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this from happening the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!

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kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!
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HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.

kms108 said:
HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.
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Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.

RockStar2005 said:
Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.
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If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.

kms108 said:
If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.
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Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??

RockStar2005 said:
Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??
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If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.

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If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.
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You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol

RockStar2005 said:
You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol
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Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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MGSBigBoss said:
Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??

RockStar2005 said:
F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??
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Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.

RockStar2005 said:
Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol

RockStar2005 said:
You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol
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I really don't know yet. I'm tempted to just stay with my z3v which has volte and hdvoice on verizon lol
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Reception on Tencent Rog 3 in U.S? How is it?

Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands and you can get it in lower storage capacities than the global one. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S

Sugaaa said:
Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
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My buddy has the tencent version and has no signal at times, when I do on my a version. Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.

bs3pro said:
Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.

Sugaaa said:
512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.

bs3pro said:
Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
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You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years

Sugaaa said:
You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
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I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.

bs3pro said:
I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
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The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.

Sugaaa said:
The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
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INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.

bs3pro said:
INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily

Sugaaa said:
I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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Lol, I just told you. 12gb, 512 IS the smallest in usa. Whatever, I'm done repeating myself

Sugaaa said:
I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913

TehAdventurer said:
bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version

Thanks for the clarification but I still think the point stands for the actual specs as opposed to the region of production

bs3pro said:
Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
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Can you put a link to the chinese version a you bought on ebay for 1000 if it's even still available. I'm only seeing global version a 12gb 512gb for 1200

TehAdventurer said:
bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.

Sugaaa said:
Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
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Yeah, that's honestly was I was trying to get at. There's no reason to try and force yourself to like a phone that doesn't check every box for you, especially at it's price point. It's much better to get something that makes you happy and functions well than something that you forced yourself to like. Glad I could help!