Hello guys,
I am getting a really good deal on a Verizon version (Unlocked) on Craigslist. I am on T-mobile.
I do not intend to unlock bootloader or root etc.
Have a few questions:
1. Will I be able to use all functionalities on the Verizon phone (like I would get on a T-mobile version)?
2. Do these Verizon versions come with removable Verzion apps?
3. Is there a way to flash T-Mobile firmware on the phone? Will this process make the Verizon version "like" T-Mobile version?
4. Anything else I should be aware of (like Volte/Wifi Calling/HD voice etc.).
Thanks a lot!
Did you ever find answers to some of your questions?
It is obvious he did absolutely no research. Are you waiting for somebody to do all the reading for you?
yourmumsbootloader said:
It is obvious he did absolutely no research. Are you waiting for somebody to do all the reading for you?
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I just noticed that searching on XDA has "search all post text" disabled by default which yields no results. Turning that on brings in a bunch of relevant posts. XDA should look into that.
i have a verizon n9 , i put my Tmobile sim card, got 4G, however, if you make a phone call, all the 4g functions shut off , even the browser.
any solutions
Gadgets Repair Tampa said:
i have a verizon n9 , i put my Tmobile sim card, got 4G, however, if you make a phone call, all the 4g functions shut off , even the browser.
any solutions
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If your plan is to use it on T-Mobile, flash T-Mobile firmware.
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I should have probably posted this in the Q&A, link to it, sorry about that to all Forum Goers / Operators:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453154
clcrawl said:
I am not certain if this is the correct forum for this but I'm going to throw it out there. I live in an area where "officially" the best carrier is a small local carrier. They recently partnered with Verizon to roll out LTE. I'd really love to get a Moto X Developer Edition, however I can't seen to find good information as to whether I would be able to simply plop in my local carriers SIM card into the phone and have it work.
I realize the APNs would need to be set, and ironically looking at the S4 I got from them, all the APNs appear to be "native" Verizon ones. So I guess my question is, does the carrier need to do anything else to activate the phone, or as long as my SIM is in the phone and working will the phone function? Thanks in advance for any information.
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I can't answer your question the way you would like it answered - but I can give you a glimmer of hope. I know when I was on the Note2 guys with VZW models could just pop in an AT&T sim and change apn"s and were good to go.
Hopefully someone with a little more experience will join in...
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I can't answer your question the way you would like it answered - but I can give you a glimmer of hope. I know when I was on the Note2 guys with VZW models could just pop in an AT&T sim and change apn"s and were good to go.
Hopefully someone with a little more experience will join in...
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If I could find an unlocked (SIM unlocked) Verizon phone, I suppose in theory I could throw in my SIM card and see if it works. Now to find someone in the area that has one. Then I need to figure out if my SIM card will survive cutting it down to a nano which appears to be doable.
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If I could find an unlocked (SIM unlocked) Verizon phone, I suppose in theory I could throw in my SIM card and see if it works. Now to find someone in the area that has one. Then I need to figure out if my SIM card will survive cutting it down to a nano which appears to be doable.
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All of Verizon's 4G LTE phones are sim unlocked.
KidJoe said:
All of Verizon's 4G LTE phones are sim unlocked.
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Well somehow this has worked for me. Oddly enough the carriers APNs on their S4 are all "Verizon" APNs, so maybe they are so close the phone simply recognizes it as a Verizon SIM?
There's a lot of discussions and speculations that the T-Mobile version works on AT&T LTE. If someone is able to confirm this, please let us know. I like to get confirmation before going this route. I have until tomorrow to cancel my preorder with AT&T. Thanks much.
I dont believe there are T-units out there yet. We should start seeing them after the 2nd.
Im in your same boat.
FCC paper work on which bands it supports proves it will work with att bands. i pre-orderd my tmobile version from negri, it is unlocked and cheaper then store.
porkaysi said:
FCC paper work on which bands it supports proves it will work with att bands. i pre-orderd my tmobile version from negri, it is unlocked and cheaper then store.
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+1 ...... Soooooo ready!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
As some are getting the T-Mobile versions today, please help us validate if it works on AT&T LTE?
vince2398 said:
As some are getting the T-Mobile versions today, please help us validate if it works on AT&T LTE?
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Tmobile states a requirement of 40 days to sim unlock the phone, but can confirm that the TMobile version that I purchased from a corporate store today has a locked bootloader and doesn't provide any performance benefits over the ATT version that arrived in the mail for me today as well. They are only slightly faster than the international version [N900] and side by side data is slower than the Tab 3 7.0.
Hope this helps...
Bob
bob_beringer said:
Tmobile states a requirement of 40 days to sim unlock the phone, but can confirm that the TMobile version that I purchased from a corporate store today has a locked bootloader and doesn't provide any performance benefits over the ATT version that arrived in the mail for me today as well. They are only slightly faster than the international version [N900] and side by side data is slower than the Tab 3 7.0.
Hope this helps...
Bob
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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The bootloader is unlocked.
Source: Pretty much everyone at the T-Mobile Note 3 forum.
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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BLUF: CF-AUTO-ROOT worked for me on the N900T, have both my N900 & N900T rooted, SIM unlocked from cellunlocker and working like a champ
For the answer to your question: see the attached two (2) images from the same phone, fact is that the information displayed in download mode for the 900T, is a bit flakey for the phone that I purchased from T-Mobile.
I have seen this information change on this device, more than 4 times, my other two N900* models don't have this issue and haven't demonstrated this behavior. In either case, I was able to make the device work on AT&T, but what I haven't seen happen is for my LTE speeds to work properly yet. I am using a N900A, N900T, N900, SM-T217A all side by side and each of the Note 3's are running less than 10mb, while the Tab 3 7.0 is running more than 55mb off the same tower from the same exact location. Seems like I need to find a way to force LTE 14, like the Tab 3 7.0 is using.
Other strange behavior is that the mobile networks menu didn't show all of the options that older ROM's offered, until after I swapped SIM's.
Hope this helps,
Bob
You have to force LTE, look on the ATT forum, there is a write up how to do it, even with then correct APN. It has been confirmed by several people.
unlocked boot loader and ATT LTE.
I said I would never spend 700$ on a phone again, but it looks like that's the route I'm taking. Not how to break the news to the wife....
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You have to force LTE, look on the ATT forum, there is a write up how to do it, even with then correct APN. It has been confirmed by several people.
unlocked boot loader and ATT LTE.
I said I would never spend 700$ on a phone again, but it looks like that's the route I'm taking. Not how to break the news to the wife....
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Yeah me too. I will not be bullied into locked bootloaders. I pay AT&T alot of money for this nonsense not to happen.
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I did the same. the T-Mobile is just perfect. Unlock SIM and Unlocked Bootloader. I haven't rooted yet waiting to decide I want to keep the Note 3.
I'm going to be switching over from T Mobile possibly next week. I'm curious if I need to flash an AT&T ROM or return it to a stock T Mobile ROM.
This is the 1st time that I'll be taking a phone from 1carrier to another. I even asked the rep from the AT&T store what I should do and of course he was clueless to what I was asking for. He just told me to get my phone unlocked from T Mobile and had no clue about rooting.
Any particular steps that I should take aside from unlock code to make sure my phone will work with AT&T?
Once your phone is sim unlocked it will work on at&t. Root access isn't needed. Once you insert the new sim apn data should install automatically. It's good to double check though.
Since you have a "tmobile" device this at&t forum won't be much help. The at&t note 3 has a locked bootloader and the tmobile one doesn't. That means the tmobile one has more capability. I bet in the tmobile threads you'll find others in the same situation as you. They can guide you to improve your at&t experience with a tmobile device.
440bro said:
Once your phone is sim unlocked it will work on at&t. Root access isn't needed. Once you insert the new sim apn data should install automatically. It's good to double check though.
Since you have a "tmobile" device this at&t forum won't be much help. The at&t note 3 has a locked bootloader and the tmobile one doesn't. That means the tmobile one has more capability. I bet in the tmobile threads you'll find others in the same situation as you. They can guide you to improve your at&t experience with a tmobile device.
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Thanks a lot.
Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
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I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338
The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out
Evening Folks! I've been doing a ton of searching and haven't found a solution yet, or anything specific to an unlocked Note 9 on the Verizon network.
I'm trying to figure out how I go about enabling (in some form or fashion) the Verizon video calling feature. I have two small girls at home, and travel often. I didn't realize when I purchased an unlocked phone, I would miss out on these features!
Anyone point me to a forum, or article that might shed a little light? I'm hoping for a workaround. Unfortunately the workaround for the Note 8 doesn't work for the Note 9.
Any help is extremely appreciated!!!!
Sincerely, Paul.
Pdub,
When you buy an unlocked phone on the Verizon network you loss WiFi calling, visual voicemail and network video calls. There is a forum were you can flash the Verizon version of Android 8.1. it's on XDA forum with instructions. That's how you can get it on an unlocked phone.
Also if you have Asurion for insurance with Brian, cancel it. They will not cover unlocked phone
Visual voicemail works (when you insert the Verizon SIM, the Voicemail app appears in Galaxy Apps).
Video calling was able to be enabled on Nougat phones, but has been blocked by Verizon. I've been using Duo instead which isn't ideal, but works well.
The Unlocked firmware has much less bloat, the Samsung Caller ID and Spam feature works (Verizon makes you pay extra), and I appreciate that there is no Verizon bootscreen, no annoying announcement when you're near a Verizon store, and seems to be less invasive.
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Pdub,
When you buy an unlocked phone on the Verizon network you loss WiFi calling, visual voicemail and network video calls. There is a forum were you can flash the Verizon version of Android 8.1. it's on XDA forum with instructions. That's how you can get it on an unlocked phone.
Also if you have Asurion for insurance with Brian, cancel it. They will not cover unlocked phone
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Wow, I wish I would have known that. I didn't know Asurion didn't cover unlocked. Is there another insurance out there that does?
Also, if I were to flash the Verizon version of Android, would updates come through still?