Hello fellas,
I was looking at the specs of the XZ3's main camera compared to the XZ1, and hardware-wise, they seem to be the same.
I see that XZ3 has some AI functions and processing as an advantage and I was wondering:
Couldn't Sony just upgrade the processing of the photos for the XZ1 series along with the Android Pie that will come?
*I know that this is not their main focus, it's just a matter of "respect" for the customers with good HW and sh*tty SW for the camera.
Take care!
Camera is same 19mp i think. Snapdragon. 835 no slouch
Camera processing has already been greatly improved for the XZ2, making it one the best photophone of 2018...
And as the XZ2, XZ3 has the powerful SoC S845...
nreuge said:
Camera processing has already been greatly improved for the XZ2, making it one the best photophone of 2018...
And as the XZ2, XZ3 has the powerful SoC S845...
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Exactly bro and xz2 and xz3 have same camera, only xz3 have another camera ui because Android P
835 is not as good as 845, I get it.
How about the Mate 10 Pro taking better pictures? Or other phones with an even worse CPU compared to SD835?
I don't think that it's a CPU "limitation"....
Sorry, my bad. There were 2 words missing from my post that might've been a little misleading.
In my post, I want to know if the XZ3's main camera is the same as the XZ1's main camera. I forgot to mention that, so maybe that's why some of you referred to the CPU comparison.
Not only if the main camera is the same, but if you think that there is still hope for the XZ1's camera to take better pictures than it is doing right now, with a little help from the newly coming Android Pie(maybe they include some image processing there also).
Fingers crossed.
Cheers.
Tudor M said:
Sorry, my bad. There were 2 words missing from my post that might've been a little misleading.
In my post, I want to know if the XZ3's main camera is the same as the XZ1's main camera. I forgot to mention that, so maybe that's why some of you referred to the CPU comparison.
Not only if the main camera is the same, but if you think that there is still hope for the XZ1's camera to take better pictures than it is doing right now, with a little help from the newly coming Android Pie(maybe they include some image processing there also).
Fingers crossed.
Cheers.
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No its not the same, only xz2 and xz3 are the same
Not saying it's not true, just did not find that information anywhere. )
How do you know that they are different?
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Not saying it's not true, just did not find that information anywhere. )
How do you know that they are different?
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XZ1:
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[B][COLOR="blue"][U]Main camera[/U][/COLOR][/B]
19MP Motion Eye™ camera
1/ 2.3” Exmor RS™ for mobile memory-stacked sensor
Pixel Pitch 1.22μm
25 mm wide Sony’s award-winning G Lens F2.0
BIONZ™ for mobile image-processing engine
960 fps Super slow motion video
Predictive Capture (motion / smile)
Autofocus burst
x8 Digital Zoom
HDR Photo
0.6 sec Quick Launch & Capture
Low-light photo: ISO 12800
Low-light video: ISO 4000
Predictive Hybrid Autofocus
Anti-distortion shutter
Triple image sensing technology
SteadyShot™ with Intelligent Active Mode (5-axis stablization)4
4K recording
[COLOR="Blue"][B][U]Front camera[/U][/B][/COLOR]
13MP
1/ 3.06” Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor
22mm wide angle lens F2.0
Low-light photo: ISO 6400
Low-light video: ISO 1600
SteadyShot™ with Intelligent Active Mode (5-axis stablization)
XZ3:
Code:
[B][U][COLOR="blue"]Main camera[/COLOR][/U][/B]
19 MP Motion Eye™ camera
1/ 2.3” Exmor RS™ for mobile memory-stacked sensor
Pixel Pitch 1.22 μm
25 mm wide Sony’s award-winning G Lens F2.0
Predictive Hybrid Autofocus (0.03s)
BIONZ™ for mobile image-processing engine
960 fps Super slow motion video (FHD/HD)
Predictive Capture (motion / smile)
Autofocus burst
x8 Digital Zoom (photo and video)
HDR Photo
4K HDR Movie recording 6
Quick Launch & Capture
Low-light photo: ISO 12800
Low-light video: ISO 4000
Predictive Hybrid Autofocus
Anti-distortion shutter
Triple image-sensing technology
SteadyShot™ with Intelligent Active Mode (5-axis stablisation)
[B][U][COLOR="blue"]Front camera[/COLOR][/U][/B]
13 MP
1/ 3.06” Exmor RS™ for mobile
23 mm wide angle lens
Low-light photo: ISO 3200
Low-light video: ISO 1600
SteadyShot™ with Intelligent Active Mode (5-axis stablisation)
@serajr
1. Where do you have the data from?
2. They look pretty similar to me.(not 100%, I agree)
3. The XZ1 does not have a 13MP front facing camera, that's for sure, but out of the discussions's scope.
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@serajr
1. Where do you have the data from?
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Both XZ1 and XZ3 words in my post are links pointing out to the sony specifications pages
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@serajr
1. Where do you have the data from?
2. They look pretty similar to me.(not 100%, I agree)
3. The XZ1 does not have a 13MP front facing camera, that's for sure, but out of the discussions's scope.
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Yes it has. Sony XPERIA XZ1 has 13 MPX front facing camera. Your data is false. Check informations again. XZ1 Compact, XZ2 Compact and XZ2 have 5 MPX front facing camera.
From XZs main camera is the same only on XZ2 Compact and XZ2 camera software processing is much better.
i think autofocus may be improved from "what - about half a second" on the XZ2 to "0.03s" on the XZ3 which would seem like an improvement. i'm hoping this brings video autofocus closer to the speed of the galaxy S8 and oneplus6 which are basically instant in adequate light.
https://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-xz3/specifications/#gref
"Predictive Hybrid Autofocus (0.03s)"
Tudor M said:
In my post, I want to know if the XZ3's main camera is the same as the XZ1's main camera. I forgot to mention that, so maybe that's why some of you referred to the CPU comparison.
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while the camera module might be the same (though there is some talk that the lenses have been improved) the big difference is in the new Spectra 280 ISP that's part of the SD 845. Sony apparently helped design it. There is a noticeable improvement in the XZ2 over the XZ1. I would expect the XZ3 to be pretty much the same.
I updated my Firmware on my XZ3 and now the camera shows Just a Black screen while taking pictures.
Anyone Else got this problem...? ?
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Hey guys, on gsmarena i read and saw the video about the camera burst mode taking 999 pictures in 68 seconds at 9 megapixels.
I understand that photo quality is not directly related to its resolution.
So i just want to ask, will the 9MP photos be of the same quality as the 13MP photos? Thanks.
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Hey guys, on gsmarena i read and saw the video about the camera burst mode taking 999 pictures in 68 seconds at 9 megapixels.
I understand that photo quality is not directly related to its resolution.
So i just want to ask, will the 9MP photos be of the same quality as the 13MP photos? Thanks.
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9MP with the same senson will be just slightly less detailed than 13MP. Not a huge difference though
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9MP with the same senson will be just slightly less detailed than 13MP. Not a huge difference though
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So i wouldn't notice a difference unless i closely inspected it?
thanks for the answer
It's the amount of pixels used to display the photo - its resolution. You would only notice a difference when zooming into the picture.
However I agree that pixel count is the least important factor. My SE W800 with 2MP shot better photos than any phone I had afterwards. If ZX' photos have similar color properties it will be great.
spazzy1912 said:
So i wouldn't notice a difference unless i closely inspected it?
thanks for the answer
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Yes. 9MP photo displayed as let's say 1280*720 will look exactly the same as 13MP photo zommed out to the same resolution. You will notice any differences only if you analyze them on their native resolution or big zoom.
Of course there will be differences - but you won't be able to notice them, especially when viewing your photos "normally".
Since no topic has been created regarding this issue (For me), I created one. I was browsing my old pictures (Taken with my Nokia 6220c which has a 5MP Carl Zeiss Lens) when I suddenly though of comparing it to my current phone (Which is the ZR), What I found out was, the vertical and horizontal resolution of my 6220c is MUCH MORE HIGHER compared to the one captured by my ZR! What the heck is Sony doing? I hope this gets fixed at the upcoming Kitkat Update because I really feel that my Nokia 5MP Shooter shoots much better shots than my ZR (Except for the pixel size of course). So what do you think guys? (Not a camera specialist here). Anyways, Here is an image for reference of what I am saying.
Kratellismorru question <== BIG FAIL
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Since no topic has been created regarding this issue (For me), I created one. I was browsing my old pictures (Taken with my Nokia 6220c which has a 5MP Carl Zeiss Lens) when I suddenly though of comparing it to my current phone (Which is the ZR), What I found out was, the vertical and horizontal resolution of my 6220c is MUCH MORE HIGHER compared to the one captured by my ZR! What the heck is Sony doing? I hope this gets fixed at the upcoming Kitkat Update because I really feel that my Nokia 5MP Shooter shoots much better shots than my ZR (Except for the pixel size of course). So what do you think guys? (Not a camera specialist here). Anyways, Here is an image for reference of what I am saying.
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http://forums.steves-digicams.com/s...lt/122155-horizontal-vertical-resolution.html
The camera has absolutely no idea how you will display and print your photos. The value ... is entirely arbitrary.
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more info
http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/faq.html#question03
nostupidthing said:
http://forums.steves-digicams.com/s...lt/122155-horizontal-vertical-resolution.html
more info
http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/faq.html#question03
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Thanks for the clarification, I thought it was something to worry about
From My Dragon Breathing Fire Underwater - C5503/XDA-App
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I was shocked for a moment and read the article and understood
Kratellismorru said:
Since no topic has been created regarding this issue (For me), I created one. I was browsing my old pictures (Taken with my Nokia 6220c which has a 5MP Carl Zeiss Lens) when I suddenly though of comparing it to my current phone (Which is the ZR), What I found out was, the vertical and horizontal resolution of my 6220c is MUCH MORE HIGHER compared to the one captured by my ZR! What the heck is Sony doing? I hope this gets fixed at the upcoming Kitkat Update because I really feel that my Nokia 5MP Shooter shoots much better shots than my ZR (Except for the pixel size of course). So what do you think guys? (Not a camera specialist here). Anyways, Here is an image for reference of what I am saying.
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You right friend
sony camara give picture with much compression, and its affect a quality and definition
i found a program camara, that can give a picture with a 100% quality a think
in play store "vignette"
configuration! vignette
resolution 13 megapixeles
quality
superfine
effects
no efects
and important
Auto save = 2 seconds
and the pictures now are excelentys
My Z1 compact has the same dpi. What should it say?
Sent from my D5503 using XDA Free mobile app
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my z1 compact has the same dpi. What should it say?
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3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia Z5 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
It's okay, but cant do a close up / macro picture
On daylight it is better than S7 but on low light you can just use 8 mp to take good pictures and it is not as great as s7
the picture quality is good, but the post processing is horrible.
i dont know why my old samsung s6 with Exmor R camera (Made by sony) can create more sharper and detail pictures (you can see it while zooming the photo, not when capturing), while my z5 creates more unnatural sharp image (Oversharpen) and horrible when zooming it (zoom the photo, not zoom when capture).
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the picture quality is good, but the post processing is horrible.
i dont know why my old samsung s6 with Exmor R camera (Made by sony) can create more sharper and detail pictures (you can see it while zooming the photo, not when capturing), while my z5 creates more unnatural sharp image (Oversharpen) and horrible when zooming it (zoom the photo, not zoom when capture).
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Daylight images are good with fine and realistic details even on 100 % crop
Minor issue are edges cause not that clean and sharp.
Daylight picture quality is one of the best today,for me better than S7 even.
aryaputraz said:
the picture quality is good, but the post processing is horrible.
i dont know why my old samsung s6 with Exmor R camera (Made by sony) can create more sharper and detail pictures (you can see it while zooming the photo, not when capturing), while my z5 creates more unnatural sharp image (Oversharpen) and horrible when zooming it (zoom the photo, not zoom when capture).
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Actually the S6 and S7 oversharpen more than the Z5. At 20MP the Z5 doesn't have too much sharpening or noise reduction which makes the flaws in the lens more apparent. Some other smartphone cameras try to compensate for it by using an unsharp mask and then smearing it with noise reduction. The only time the Z5 is oversharpened is in 8MP mode and 1080p video mode, but not as much as other phones.
I think its horrible. Samsung phones have waaay nicer colors and the Z5 camera takes very dark pictures.
as xperia big fan
i think Z2 is the best xperia camera
used s, arc s, p,v,z, z1, z2, z3, z5 and xperia x
today i took 2 photos
1 with Z5 and 1 with oneplus 3 inside the home with lights on.
Z5 camera reflected to much light off the wall .
actors in TV were not seen at all by Z5
zate27 said:
I think its horrible. Samsung phones have waaay nicer colors and the Z5 camera takes very dark pictures.
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i agree
Can someone post some pictures including lowlight pics taken with xperia z5 with nougat 7.1.1? I want to know if the camera produces better picture in 7.1.1 compared to 5.1.1.
Thank you in advance
For me it seems the pictures look the same. Did not compare in detail and don't have examples at hand though.
I'm really happy that I gave it away, don't want it back.
I honestly expected a lot more. Sony makes cameras for other devices while putting their average on their own.
Just remove your lens to change everything.
Sony's lens camera for mobile is terrible.
Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
isko01 said:
Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
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It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
mudnightoil said:
It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
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Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
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Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
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Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
Archer Casio said:
Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
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I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
mudnightoil said:
I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
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Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Archer Casio said:
Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Other than the shortcomings of the front camera, I have no other complaints with the P20 pro.
Spacemanglam said:
Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
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Same issue here ...the rear cameras are great ..but the front camera beautification is just too agressive even when set to zero . A google camera mod with HDR+ in just 10mp for rear camera and portrait enabled on both the front and rear will be really helpful .
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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Yeah I saw that too, and curious what's changed in that. I assume that you need to be rooted to flash that?
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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That's not a GCam port, that's to install the P20 Pro Camera software on a non-pro P20.
So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
I am very interested in development. Maybe it's possible.
dladz said:
So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
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I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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Lovely, perhaps the lineage ROM in the development section may be able to use it?
sarichter said:
I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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saturnspike said:
The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
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I also agree for the front camera pics quality
guybrush2099 said:
very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
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The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
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That's not the case at all from my experience comparing 10 vs 40 vs 3x zoom in various situations.
In low light, 40mp is poor, but in well lit places, 40mp is far more detailed, less over-sharpened, and significantly nicer overall.
It's generally less processed, and HDR etc doesn't seem to be enabled on it, but it's certainly not inferior to 10mp in general, but is occasionally.
If you want to do any post processing, the 40mp is probably better in general... though I guess few would want to do this!
Hello Xperia fans!
I have recently bought Xperia XZ3 and noticed that every time I take a photo indoors it has a very high amount of noise and edge artefacts. As you can see from the comparison with Galaxy S9 I did, while S9 has quite strong post processing it still manages to retain a lot of details and looks better than XZ3 with very noisy and grainy photos. This really doesn't look like Sony algorithms are doing decent job to me and while I appreciate the effort to retain the details, in my opinion S9 does a better job in indoor light conditions.
What do you guys think?
https://imgur.com/a/UgWCiVM
While I wouldn't say the XZ3 camera is great (it's essentially the same camera as the XZ1 from 2017) I do prefer the look of your XZ3 photos over the Galaxy 9 ones. The Galaxy 9 photo is overly blurred and smoothed resulting in a loss of detail. The JBL logo is still recognisable on your XZ3 photo but on SG9 it's become a single unrecognisable smeared blob. You can probably even recreate the SG9 photo from the XZ3 photo simply by blurring/smoothing it more. The white balance is also better on the XZ3 (pink tint on the SG9).
mufunyo said:
While I wouldn't say the XZ3 camera is great (it's essentially the same camera as the XZ1 from 2017) I do prefer the look of your XZ3 photos over the Galaxy 9 ones. The Galaxy 9 photo is overly blurred and smoothed resulting in a loss of detail. The JBL logo is still recognisable on your XZ3 photo but on SG9 it's become a single unrecognisable smeared blob. You can probably even recreate the SG9 photo from the XZ3 photo simply by blurring/smoothing it more. The white balance is also better on the XZ3 (pink tint on the SG9).
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That's a really good comment and I completely agree.
The colour reproduction on Xperia is much better and the overall feel of the photo is nicer. I think that Sony's aim was to ensure that the photo looks as best as possible when viewed full screen but at the expense of sacrificing the quality when pixel peeping and I agree with that decision.
Ultimately, only a small fraction of consumers care about how good the photo looks like when zoomed in 100% or 200% and what they really care about is how it looks when looking at it full screen or on social media. When uploading a photo to social media, the compression algorithms would most likely reduce the noise and smooth out the photo anyway but the colours most likely wouldn't be affected so overall the Xperia photo when posted on Facebook would look better that the S9 photo.
I agree. But to achieve excellent quality will turn out on manual settings. Make a good photo indoors - you need to set the resolution to 12 megapixels (16: 9), ISO 800, shutter speed: at least 1/60. Next - experiments.
The custom ROMs based on Sony aosp will achieve a better quality.
MartinX3 said:
The custom ROMs based on Sony aosp will achieve a better quality.
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Still waiting for that raw support :crying:
mufunyo said:
Still waiting for that raw support :crying:
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Since OEMv8 SODP custom roms have RAW.
MartinX3 said:
Since OEMv8 SODP custom roms have RAW.
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What? I follow your issue on the GitHub tracker and it says Level_3 (required for RAW) is still missing?
mufunyo said:
What? I follow your issue on the GitHub tracker and it says Level_3 (required for RAW) is still missing?
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Documentation said:
LEVEL_3: These devices support YUV reprocessing and RAW image capture, along with additional output stream configurations.
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RAW works now.
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/bug_tracker/issues/321
MartinX3 said:
RAW works now.
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So do any of the modded GCams work on XZ2/3 AOSP?
mufunyo said:
So do any of the modded GCams work on XZ2/3 AOSP?
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I linked one in my omnirom thread and shot photos and screenshots.