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[GUIDE] Stop Google Play Services Wakelocks (AppMeasurement, net_scheduler, etc.)

Update 09.12.17: The methods below may not fully work on the latest OS versions. There is an ongoing discussion in the last pages so I hope it gets cleared out eventually, sadly I've been busy with my studies and haven't touched my phone since initially making this thread (it's on OOS 4.0.2). I write this just to make sure I don't waste your time accidentally, so please check the latest replies if you're on newer OS versions.
Hello everybody,
*the undermentioned methods and app(s) require root*
I have asked you guys in the AKT thread if you would like to see a small tutorial on how to stop the constant "com.google.android.gms/.measurement.PackageMeasurementService" and "net_scheduler" wakelocks that might or might not be responsible for the device waiting longer than it should before dozing off.
Please keep in mind that this method does work for me, and might or might not work for you, as everybody uses different things/apps so in case you see unwanted behavior, just revert back and sigh that the method has failed you.
I am not responsible for any hardware-/software damage that may occur upon using these settings.
So, now that we've got all the generic stuff out of the way, first few words about why this might bother you:
1) You don't like your device doing stuff you didn't make it do.
2) You want to minimize wakelocks
3) You're here because you just saw the two beforementioned wakelocks and already decided you want to get rid of them.
So, regarding the first one, all I can say is I got the method from this reddit post , which briefly explains which services are doing the waking and what they are. Starting with "At the heart of Firebase is Firebase Analytics, a free and unlimited analytics solution. .." got me raising an eyebrow, as I don't like handling control of my device to other people, without me even knowing.
UPDATE: I have merged the two approaches into just using one app and making the changes on a global level, so you can just do them in like 5 minutes and forget about it, but in case you have problems with disabling package measurement you can also check the hidden text just below for instructions using another app, which was basically "the old way".
So to get rid of the "snooping", as already described in that post, you need to download MyAndroidTools.
Disclaimer: Disabling some services/receivers may "crash" the app. I found it is normal, just go back to where you were and check if you managed to disable the thing you wanted, if yes, then it was successful.
1. Open the app
2. Click on the top left to open the panel, click on Broadcast Receiver.
3. On the menu that opens go to the right column named System. Click search on the top right, type "Play" and choose the Google Play Services option.
4. In the search bar there type at least "ana" and disable the two found results with the names "AnalyticsReceiver" and "AnalyticsSamplerReceiver"
5. Hit x and search again for at least "meas". You will see three results with the names "AppMeasurementInstallReferrerReceiver", "AppMeasurementReceiver" and "PackageMeasurementReceiver*". Disable all three.
****Update 15.02.17*** Apparently this one resets every once in a while, I blame this again on Google's efforts to have their spying on, but anyways. Go to services->system->Google Play Services->search "meas"->disable both "AppMeasurementService" and "MeasurementBrokerService". The third one (PackageMeasurementService) will restart too so don't bother. This should do the trick though.
6. There was discussion about "Campaign Tracking" . I only found it in the same System menu, in Android Pay, by searching at least "cam" you get the result "CampaignTrackingReceiver". Disable it if you feel you want to. I don't use Android Pay and cannot say if it breaks something there, but otherwise have it disabled and haven't noticed any problems so far.
7. Search for Google Play Store in System. In that option, search for at least "app" and disable "AppMeasurementReceiver". Hit x and search for at least "fir", then disable the two results with names "FirebaseInstanceIdInternalReceiver" and "FirebaseInstanceIdReceiver"
8. Done. All the setttings are now global for any sort of app measurements, as far as I know.
This is the "old way" of dealing with app measurement. If you have done the steps above just ignore (hide) this part and continue with disabling net_scheduler below.
So to get rid of the "snooping", as already described in that post, you need to download Root Package Disabler or equivalent alternative.
ATTENTION: As per the last version of the app, I see there might be a bug which reverts some settings when you use the search bar, so please try and find the services by hand in stead of searching, as it is more reliable.
1. Open the app
2. Start with the left-most pane, e.g. "Installed". There you can see all your installed apps
3. Click on the first app on the list, it will display a small menu. Apps that use services will have the bottom-left option named "SERVICES" available, click there. This will take you to the services list that this app uses.
4. Click on the searching icon on the top-right in order to filter the services we need disabling.
5. Write at least "appm" . If the AppMeasurementService is used by this app, it will now be displayed.
6. Tick that off (the switch will turn gray)
7. Hit x, and search again for at least "fireb". This will display all services that use the Firebase SDK. You may also check under the name of the service and see the word is contained in the "executable name", so it might not always have "an official" name that states Firebase, but still use one of their "executables" (sorry for lack of detail)
7.1 Check for any other services that have "analytics" in their description, although I haven't checked if this stops something useful, but I doubt it.
8. When you're done with the current app, it will no longer call these services and cause wakelocks as long as the services remain stopped. To my experience the settings stay after reboot, it's just the above mentioned bug you have to keep in mind since it happened to me now while making the guide, and I know it came with the latest update.
9. Go back to the installed pane and maybe tick on the star next to the app in question. It will be added to the "favourite" list where you can have all those apps and don't bother to search them again if needed.
10. Repeat from step 1 for the next app and go through all your apps. If not you will still get calls to this service from the apps that still have these services on. Also a reminder here, you have to remember and check every new app you install, as most apps do have the service enabled.
11. After you're done with all apps in "Installed", check out bloatware (I think I haven't found anything there, but it's worth checking).
12. "System" apps that I know have some of those services: Calendar, (probably) Chrome (I have that disabled so dunno), Drive, Duo, Gboard, Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Google VR Services.
Here are two pictures how an app's services list looks like, and one with some of the services disabled:
all services on
some services off
After doing these steps, you should charge your battery to 90% to reset the battery statistics and you should see that the "com.google.android.gms/.measurement.PackageMeasurementService" wakelock no longer occurs (or stays really, really low, and not thousands like before). If you still have it after all this, then you probably have an app you haven't disabled the services for.
The second approach will get rid of the "net_scheduler" wakelock. Thanks to @denon480 for the idea, it's post #34 in this thread It involves installing (again) MyAndroidTools or equivalent alternative.
1. Open the app
2. Click on the top left corner to open the menu panel.
3. Click on Broadcast Receiver
4. Navigate to the System pane
5. Click on search on the top right. Search for Google Play Services. Click on them when they show up
6. In the search top right, write at least "sche" and you will see the two receivers responsible for the "net_scheduler" wakelock, "SchedulerInternalReceiver" and "SchedulerReceiver" . Here's a picture how it looks
7. Switch the first one off. The app will quit, don't worry.
8. Go back to where you were (steps 1 to 6) . You will see that you indeed managed to swtich that receiver off.
9. Switch the second one off. The app will quit, again no worries.
10. Check if you managed to switch the second one as well. After that you're done!
I hope I could help you guys out. I know there is nothing fancy in these methods but felt a thread might be useful as I saw a good number of requests when I mentioned it in the AKT thread.
Also sorry for misleading the guys I already told it was going to be a short guide, I honestly thought it would take way less words than it did. But I think it is for the better.
Have fun.

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Going through this guide, I was able to get the services disabled through root package disabler, bit my android tools kept force closing for some reason.
*edit* uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, and was able to get the app to stay open, and got them disabled. I'm curious to see what my wake locks are going to look like tomorrow. This is pretty much the nougat answer to amplify, huh? =)

MeggaMortY said:
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I think Everything is fine or?

tzbigworm said:
Going through this guide, I was able to get the services disabled through root package disabler, bit my android tools kept force closing for some reason.
*edit* uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, and was able to get the app to stay open, and got them disabled. I'm curious to see what my wake locks are going to look like tomorrow. This is pretty much the nougat answer to amplify, huh? =)
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Hope it gets rid of those for you too. If I remember correctly I noticed the problem since Nougat, but then again I've been on Android since only a few months, coming from a big pause. Last time I was around we were rocking the HTC HD2 and had to deal with very different problems.
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Yup looks great.

MeggaMortY said:
Hope it gets rid of those for you too. If I remember correctly I noticed the problem since Nougat, but then again I've been on Android since only a few months, coming from a big pause. Last time I was around we were rocking the HTC HD2 and had to deal with very different problems.
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Crazy how much of a beast that phone was. People forget it's actually a windows phone, Android was put on it so much lol!

Thanks for the tips. Works great!

Thank you for your awesome work!
I have two more questions:
1. What about CampaignTrackingService? Could we disable this one as well?
2. In MyAndroidTools under Broadcast Receiver there are lots of receivers like AppMeasurementReceiver or FirebaseInstanceIdReceiver. They also need to be disabled or disabling the corresponding service is sufficient?
Thank you very much

youknownothing said:
Thank you for your awesome work!
I have two more questions:
1. What about CampaignTrackingService? Could we disable this one as well?
2. In MyAndroidTools under Broadcast Receiver there are lots of receivers like AppMeasurementReceiver or FirebaseInstanceIdReceiver. They also need to be disabled or disabling the corresponding service is sufficient?
Thank you very much
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1. I initally disabled that in a few apps and didn't have problems System-wide or with the apps. So you can give it a go and in case of apps not functioning you can revert those back.
2. No for now it's okay to just use the Package Disabler for that. Like I said both apps have similiar functionality, there's probably a way to find the right service/receiver and disable it globally from MyAndroidTools, then we won't need the Package Disabler. But since it did work for me and I don't install new apps more than like once a week, I just didn't bother figuring it out. I can only say that disabling certain services/activities in MyAndroidTools can brake functionality or even bootloop your device, so be very careful in case you wanna find out if it's possible.

MeggaMortY said:
1. I initally disabled that in a few apps and didn't have problems System-wide or with the apps. So you can give it a go and in case of apps not functioning you can revert those back.
2. No for now it's okay to just use the Package Disabler for that. Like I said both apps have similiar functionality, there's probably a way to find the right service/receiver and disable it globally from MyAndroidTools, then we won't need the Package Disabler. But since it did work for me and I don't install new apps more than like once a week, I just didn't bother figuring it out. I can only say that disabling certain services/activities in MyAndroidTools can brake functionality or even bootloop your device, so be very careful in case you wanna find out if it's possible.
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Thank you for your quick response. I'll give it a try, if anything goes wrong I'll let you know.
Is there any difference between Package Disabler and Disable Service app? I've tried the former, but it was really buggy. Scrolling was so glitchy and with lots of stutters that I've accidentally disabled few services. So I've used Disable Service with success. Now I only wonder whether both apps have the same functionality. Do you happen to know that?
Thanks in advance

youknownothing said:
Thank you for your quick response. I'll give it a try, if anything goes wrong I'll let you know.
Is there any difference between Package Disabler and Disable Service app? I've tried the former, but it was really buggy. Scrolling was so glitchy and with lots of stutters that I've accidentally disabled few services. So I've used Disable Service with success. Now I only wonder whether both apps have the same functionality. Do you happen to know that?
Thanks in advance
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Assuming you're disabling services, which we are lol (should've been more obvious for me too I guess), I'd say you should be fine, and even say maybe the same goes for just using MyAndroidTools, just scroll through the Service menu in Table Third-Party and you'll see the same settings you applied with the other app/Package Disabler. I guess I was lazy to realize that since I liked I can favourite the apps I need to keep an eye on in the Package Disabler.
So all in all you should be okay, but even better you may try and just use MyAndroidTools for both. I have some exams coming so I won't be able to test those things but will make sure to update the tutorial if indeed that turns out to be right (for the app you suggested or even just MyAndroidTools).
Give a shout in case you find out something more. And thanks for the info

Followed the guide, thanks for this like said before kind of amplify for nougat. But as I was disabling net.schedule I noticed "my android tool" can do the fire base and app activity. Under service activity and press <...>

I suppose that this two methods doesn't compromise any function of the device right? For example loosing notifications or similar
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Mr.Jay said:
I suppose that this two methods doesn't compromise any function of the device right? For example loosing notifications or similar
Sent from my OnePlus 3
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Like mentioned, it works fine for me, and probably depends on personal usage. I don't use Google Pay for example, and Chrome, and Google Music.... but besides those I haven't had problems anyway.

Disabled everything that is said to do in this thread and it worked great while I was at home while on wifi. I had drain of .5% an hour at times. However today while at work and on LTE, drain went up to 2.6% an hour, plus wakelocks from play services was waking up the device on average over 3 times a minute. When I looked into it further there was one service under play services where all the alarms were coming from. I do have a screenshot of this. Anyone have any insight to this? For the record, I do keep location off on my device.
Edit: I wonder f it comes from moving around a lot, as I'm always on the move as I manage a restaurant. Its not really a major drain, but still makes me wonder.

NJGSII said:
Disabled everything that is said to do in this thread and it worked great while I was at home while on wifi. I had drain of .5% an hour at times. However today while at work and on LTE, drain went up to 2.6% an hour, plus wakelocks from play services was waking up the device on average over 3 times a minute. When I looked into it further there was one service under play services where all the alarms were coming from. I do have a screenshot of this. Anyone have any insight to this? For the record, I do keep location off on my device.
Edit: I wonder f it comes from moving around a lot, as I'm always on the move as I manage a restaurant. Its not really a major drain, but still makes me wonder.
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Have you disabled location history in the Google App? The problem is this guide fixes only one concrete aspect of the whole "Google stalking experience" shenanigans. Please check for the thing I mentioned and also in Settings -> Backup & Reset, make sure Back up my data is off if you haven't logged in an account and intend to use that - these two things were also draining battery for me when I was on the go as far as I can remember.
LMcR92 said:
Followed the guide, thanks for this like said before kind of amplify for nougat. But as I was disabling net.schedule I noticed "my android tool" can do the fire base and app activity. Under service activity and press <...>
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I did some checking on that list and am currently testing a way to only use MyAndroidTools for the whole aproach. If it turns out to be working the whole guide would get reduced to like 10 clicks, since the settings are global. I'll post more info after a day or so to make sure it is working, but as for now I see promising results.

Anyone used Franco's Servicely app to do this?

Up, I have updated the guide to just using MyAndroidTools and disabling the receivers on a global scale. So now you just have to do it once and (hopefully) forget about it.

MeggaMortY said:
Up, I have updated the guide to just using MyAndroidTools and disabling the receivers on a global scale. So now you just have to do it once and (hopefully) forget about it.
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Will Doing like #1 post notifications from Gmail?

techusthad said:
Will Doing like #1 post notifications from Gmail?
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Don't know what you mean by #1 - disabling the AppMeasurement stuff, e.g. first set of instructions? I haven't had problems with Gmail and I use it with two accounts on there.

How To Guide S21 Ultra Debloat

Found a couple of handy articles listing most of the bloat packages in Galaxy phones:
How to Remove Samsung Galaxy S20 Bloatware? - KrispiTech
How to Remove Samsung Bloatware without Root (ADB)
If you want to remove bloatware on your Samsung Galaxy S10, S20, Note 10 or Galaxy Tab, here is a list of safe to remove Samsung bloatware.
technastic.com
more tips and ready to use scripts:
Ultimate Samsung S9 and S9+ Debloat Guide
The Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9+ are truly fantastic flagship phones – unfortunately they do come with a bit of bloatware, either from your carrier or
appuals.com

Thanks, looks good. What happens on updates and factory reset, does everything get restored again?

anro15 said:
Thanks, looks good. What happens on updates and factory reset, does everything get restored again?
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OTG updates and rebooting won't change anything, what's uninstalled will stay uninstalled, but factory reset will reset the phone to its original 'factory' condition.

thanks for this, very helpful

does any one know if these lists to debloat are broken down into usable groups to warn if you intend to use a certain a certain application , eg samsung pay you cannot remove the following items, etc. I've had issues in the past that removing a few items caused others to malfunction. i just don't want to get debloat happy and cause kept items to fail.

johnp357 said:
does any one know if these lists to debloat are broken down into usable groups to warn if you intend to use a certain a certain application , eg samsung pay you cannot remove the following items, etc. I've had issues in the past that removing a few items caused others to malfunction. i just don't want to get debloat happy and cause kept items to fail.
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Ppl have different priorities, a relevant app for someone might be disregarded by others so you have to do it on your own. Best way to find out is to google the entire package name "com.xxxx.xxxxx.etc..." and look for the answers.

Wouldn't it be nice if Samsung acted like a respectable manufacturer and not some back alley pimp?
It's not like these junk filled phones are cheap.

blackhawk said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Samsung acted like a respectable manufacturer and not some back alley pimp?
It's not like these junk filled phones are cheap.
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I know I have bought package disabler pro something like twice. With my S21 ultra (which I decided to keep - pathetic me) has anybody had experience with using it with Android 11? I don't want to throw money at them again although it has worked well in the past.

peterg21 said:
I know I have bought package disabler pro something like twice. With my S21 ultra (which I decided to keep - pathetic me) has anybody had experience with using it with Android 11? I don't want to throw money at them again although it has worked well in the past.
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I'm running a 10+/Pie. This is the one I've been using for years with no issues.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com

blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+/Pie. This is the one I've been using for years with no issues.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
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OK. That is the one I have seen outside the play store but was somewhat reticent to buy. But not expensive - not going to bankrupt me - so let me try this. Thanks (for the moment )

peterg21 said:
OK. That is the one I have seen outside the play store but was somewhat reticent to buy. But not expensive - not going to bankrupt me - so let me try this. Thanks (for the moment
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All appears fine as before with this app. Disabled what I normally disable. Let's see how this works out.

peterg21 said:
All appears fine as before with this app. Disabled what I normally disable. Let's see how this works out.
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It's a very useful app. It allows you to set a widget that when an entry is checked it will toggle the apk(s) on/off by touching the widget
Uses very little battery. Runs clean and stable.
Something else unique about it is for troubleshooting when you clear an apk's data it leaves no nulls (presumably) behind.
It can completely clear a system apk's data that clearing the data in Settings will not.
That saved me a reload once and also allowed me to isolate the system apk that was causing the issue.

My Verizon branded hardly had anything on it out of the box. The second it hit the internet I got about 15 games and a ton of crap out of the blue.
What is Verizon calling that DT ignite app now? I can't find it.

felloffthetruck said:
My Verizon branded hardly had anything on it out of the box. The second it hit the internet I got about 15 games and a ton of crap out of the blue.
What is Verizon calling that DT ignite app now? I can't find it.
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Package block Verizon updates. That's what I do with my AT&T 10+ variant.
It continues to run fast and happily on Pie.
Not missing Q one little bit or using excessive bits to get a file opened!

felloffthetruck said:
My Verizon branded hardly had anything on it out of the box. The second it hit the internet I got about 15 games and a ton of crap out of the blue.
What is Verizon calling that DT ignite app now? I can't find it.
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Have you disabled Verizon App Manager within the settings. I had the same issue you did. From Google-ing around, I found that this app can install apps without your permission (according to reddit)

mprunty said:
Have you disabled Verizon App Manager within the settings. I had the same issue you did. From Google-ing around, I found that this app can install apps without your permission (according to reddit)
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Yes, just found it and disabled it.

felloffthetruck said:
Yes, just found it and disabled it.
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If you don't disable updates Verizon can alter your firmware as they see fit.
Verizon like AT&T are partnered with Samsung, let that stink in for a few seconds.
Verizon gives active input to firmware updates from Samsung. To the point were the interface may be quite different from a stock Samsung... and not necessarily for the better.
The last updates are usually the worst; been there, done that.
Not taking that ride again

blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+/Pie. This is the one I've been using for years with no issues.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
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i just purchased it but am scared id disable something and mess **** up. is there a tutorial somewhere where it shows what to disable and what to keep in order to things to run smooth aswell. ty

kazlow said:
i just purchased it but am scared id disable something and mess **** up. is there a tutorial somewhere where it shows what to disable and what to keep in order to things to run smooth aswell. ty
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What works for one person may not work for another as there many variants of the same model.
It's best if you try to learn what the apk you're disabling does. Some have dependencies.
Some will boot loop the device if not able to run on boot up. I'm also using Karma Firewall so sometimes instead of disabling an apk I simply firewall block it to retain better functionality and ease of use. I have no easy solution that fits all. Learn by doing.
You should always be ready to do a reload with all critical your data backed up.
It's rarely needed but it can be needed at any moment with little or no warning.
That said I've never crashed an OS using a package disabler however your results may vary
I use my SD card as a data drive. I can do a full restore anywhere, anytime with little or no internet connection in about 2 hours.
Without an SD card your backup alternatives are less attractive...

There is literally zero data showing that debloating brings a any value or efficency at all

Question AOD and battery impact

Comrades, do you have the AOD on always/ tap/ schedule? How's the battery impact for you?

I have it from 6am to 10pm with approximately a 10% of battery consumed by it

Yeah mine sits at around 6-7% battery use which feels high

The 10+ running on Pie with AOD fully on with autobrightness enabled uses between .6-1.0% per hour. Anything over 1% on this device indicates an unwanted background process(es) are running.

blackhawk said:
The 10+ running on Pie with AOD fully on with autobrightness enabled uses between .6-1.0% per hour. Anything over 1% on this device indicates an unwanted background process(es) are running.
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Sort of thing we need to change settings for or will an update iron it out ?

Quazza said:
Sort of thing we need to change settings for or will an update iron it out ?
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Power management has been an issue for me. It's completely disabled otherwise I get erratic behavior and excessive battery usage.
Google Backup, Framework caused drain with screen off. Google Play Services was constantly polling as was Android Services. Package disabled to former two and firewall blocked the latter two.
I have about 84 packages disabled and quit a few firewall blocked, some permanently, some are toogled as needs like GPlayS.
Karma Firewall is freeware and a good firewall.
Unfortunately unlike in Pie in Q and higher you lose it's valuable logging feature.
Maybe there's a ABD workaround but Q and up are crapware.
The more Android tries to be your big sister the worse it gets. It's gotten really bad...

I just have a bixby routine set up to turn on AOD all the time while charging, but I turned it off other than that. I had the ten second tap set up but always blew past it anyway.

ajk511 said:
I just have a bigsby routine set up to turn on AOD all the time while charging, but I turned it off other than that. I had the ten second tap set up but always blew past it anyway.
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Bixby? Kill that crapware...

blackhawk said:
Bixby? Kill that crapware...
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Bixby and Bixby routines are completely separate things bud.

ajk511 said:
Bixby and Bixby routines are completely separate things bud.
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Lol, how do you enable Bixby routines without using any other Bixby apks?
Best I can tell you can't... just tried.
You read the bixby eula? Bah-ha-ha-ha... even the devil has a more user friendly agreement.

blackhawk said:
Lol, how do you enable Bixby routines without using any other Bixby apks?
Best I can tell you can't... just tried.
You read the bixby eula? Bah-ha-ha-ha... even the devil has a more user friendly agreement.
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yet you still sign into google for some reason

sesnut said:
yet you still sign into google for some reason
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Gmail. Rarely Playstore. That's it.
Since it's a stock Android it's needed for factory resets as well.
Google is a cancer... no need for Sammy's tard Bixby though.

blackhawk said:
Lol, how do you enable Bixby routines without using any other Bixby apks?
Best I can tell you can't... just tried.
You read the bixby eula? Bah-ha-ha-ha... even the devil has a more user friendly agreement.
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Actually, I uninstalled all bixby garbage save for the routines and the routines work like a charm...

blackhawk said:
Gmail. Rarely Playstore. That's it.
Since it's a stock Android it's needed for factory resets as well.
Google is a cancer... no need for Sammy's tard Bixby though.
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I have been experimenting with Samsung email which seems to tie in very well the OS. Battery usage is also comparable to Gmail. I have 3 gsuite and 1 main gmail account syncing..while on Gmail it used 3.2% at the end of the day...Samsung email also closes the day at the same level...the only trade-off is swipe to complete feature in Gmail but that's the small price to pay for the better aesthetics in Samsung email...

amirage said:
I have been experimenting with Samsung email which seems to tie in very well the OS. Battery usage is also comparable to Gmail. I have 3 gsuite and 1 main gmail account syncing..while on Gmail it used 3.2% at the end of the day...Samsung email also closes the day at the same level...the only trade-off is swipe to complete feature in Gmail but that's the small price to pay for the better aesthetics in Samsung email...
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I like the factory load gmail format better. Probably makes no difference though; whichever you like more.
Gmail use to be so much better 10 years ago...

I'm using aodNotify to turn on the AOD for a set amount of time after getting a notification, then turn it back off.

Question Battery drain .

After I Flashed official Firmware my battery has been draing way to fast. Any Ideas as to why?

Welcome to XDA Enjoy.
Try turning off all power management.
Disable all the cloud crapware ie Google Backup Transport and Samsung's junk.
Turn off Google Firebase.
Disable all Google, app, carrier feedback.
Get rid of FB, WhatsApp etc if present... pure malware.
Disable Google Play Services and Playstore when not needed. They are busy bodies that waste your power mining your data.

blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA Enjoy.
Try turning off all power management.
Disable all the cloud crapware ie Google Backup Transport and Samsung's junk.
Turn off Google Firebase.
Disable all Google, app, carrier feedback.
Get rid of FB, WhatsApp etc if present... pure malware.
Disable Google Play Services and Playstore when not needed. They are busy bodies that waste your power mining your data.
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Bruh, that's not the solution! The 2 latest updates have a problem with some camera wakelock issue. There are some solutions but for now they are only for rooted phones.

blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA Enjoy.
Try turning off all power management.
Disable all the cloud crapware ie Google Backup Transport and Samsung's junk.
Turn off Google Firebase.
Disable all Google, app, carrier feedback.
Get rid of FB, WhatsApp etc if present... pure malware.
Disable Google Play Services and Playstore when not needed. They are busy bodies that waste your power mining your data.
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So basically you are trying to help him by saying to turn off everything in he's very, very expensive smartphone and convert it into "phone with decent camera"? Mate it is not a solution, when you have problem with you car you don't turn up the music to drown out engine weird noises ;|

joloxx9joloxx9 said:
So basically you are trying to help him by saying to turn off everything in he's very, very expensive smartphone and convert it into "phone with decent camera"? Mate it is not a solution, when you have problem with you car you don't turn up the music to drown out engine weird noises ;|
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Do what you want. I don't have time for this.
If you think erratic behavior whilst using more battery is a smart phone... it's a lick on you.

blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA Enjoy.
Try turning off all power management.
Disable all the cloud crapware ie Google Backup Transport and Samsung's junk.
Turn off Google Firebase.
Disable all Google, app, carrier feedback.
Get rid of FB, WhatsApp etc if present... pure malware.
Disable Google Play Services and Playstore when not needed. They are busy bodies that waste your power mining your data.
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I think this is a little too extreme. It's like removing the brakes, body panels, air conditioning and suspension of a Rolls Royce to make it lighter and and more fuel efficient. Not sure you'd get your money's worth with the handicap that remains after disabling everything in that list.
Not trying to pick a fight here, I have nothing personal against you - I'm sure you meant well. I'm just saying that not everyone can live with a severly handicapped smartphone with most of the social and connectivity features disabled.

Yosh123 said:
After I Flashed official Firmware my battery has been draing way to fast. Any Ideas as to why?
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Which firmware? How did you "flash" it? Are you rooted? Were you on a Custom ROM before? DId you use Smart Switch? How long has it been since you cset up the phone from scratch?
Need some more details.
There's hardly any information contained in your post to try to figure out how to help you...

enigmaamit said:
I think this is a little too extreme. It's like removing the brakes, body panels, air conditioning and suspension of a Rolls Royce to make it lighter and and more fuel efficient. Not sure you'd get your money's worth with the handicap that remains after disabling everything in that list.
Not trying to pick a fight here, I have nothing personal against you - I'm sure you meant well. I'm just saying that not everyone can live with a severly handicapped smartphone with most of the social and connectivity features disabled.
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Power management... destroyer of worlds.
Ever since it's inception it hasn't worked right causing erratic behavior and even increasing battery usage.
Android manages its self just fine without it.
You need to sort out the trouble making apks because the shotgun power management approach doesn't get it.
Gookill apps are some of the worst offenders as well as data miners. I gain 1-2% more battery life by disabling Google play Services; unless I need to view gmail, use Gmaps or Playstore it stays disabled. Google play Services runs ever worse with power management enabled. If you need Google play Services than keep it enabled and take the battery and data hits.
I get about 7-10%@hour battery usage on a estimate 4100 mAh battery on my Note 10+ with very heavy browser and streaming usage. Unfortunately unless you take the time to learn who/what are the troublemakers are, you will be at their mercy... and machines don't feel empathy.
As for social apps consider the security liabilities and implications. They can and do destroy privacy, careers and lives. All can be hacked in a number of ways and are prime targets.
Maybe you're having too much fun to notice the rapidly approaching tarmac.
No FB or WhatsApp crapware running on this phone... I was born at night but not last night.
An old joke sums it up.
Q: Can you keep a secret?
A: I can too.

blackhawk said:
Maybe you're having too much fun to notice the rapidly approaching tarmac.
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I like how you worded that

blackhawk said:
Do what you want. I don't have time for this.
If you think erratic behavior whilst using more battery is a smart phone... it's a lick on you.
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If you don't have time, we'll not my problem. I just think disabling everything in smartphone is not an fix as mentioned in previous post. But anyway without proper data from OP there is barely anything we can do to help him.

joloxx9joloxx9 said:
If you don't have time, we'll not my problem. I just think disabling everything in smartphone is not an fix as mentioned in previous post. But anyway without proper data from OP there is barely anything we can do to help him.
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I got time but not for ineptness...it's not a desirable trait or skillset.
The OP needs to ferret it out and optimize the device as they see fit. All I can do is point out know issues and possible workarounds for a stock Android.
There is no quick fix as there are multiple issues.
Disclaimer: what works well for me may puke on you

joloxx9joloxx9 said:
If you don't have time, we'll not my problem. I just think disabling everything in smartphone is not an fix as mentioned in previous post. But anyway without proper data from OP there is barely anything we can do to help him.
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maybe this is the latest issue from new updated software version, first try to factory data reset before (backup the important data first with smart switch), then if it's feel same, try to disable the most battery consume one like power management and google play (and play service) just for a day to compare with the default setting before.

maleforwork said:
maybe this is the latest issue from new updated software version, first try to factory data reset before (backup the important data first with smart switch), then if it's feel same, try to disable the most battery consume one like power management and google play (and play service) just for a day to compare with the default setting before.
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You`ve quoted wrong person

joloxx9joloxx9 said:
You`ve quoted wrong person
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Ohh sorry my mistake

Question Ads in Samsung apps

I don't understand why is Samsung pushing their advertisement into more and more native apps
Weather app recently got an update and now is full with full screen adverts
I just don't understand...you pay £1500 for s phone...build in adverts is the last thing you want
If the weather channel is charging you to the point you need to turn your weather app into a non stop adverts app... change supplier to a free one
Otherwise don't charge us loads for fed-forced feeding adverts

tim2london said:
I don't understand why is Samsung pushing their advertisement into more and more native apps
Weather app recently got an update and now is full with full screen adverts
I just don't understand...you pay £1500 for s phone...build in adverts is the last thing you want
If the weather channel is charging you to the point you need to turn your weather app into a non stop adverts app... change supplier to a free one
Otherwise don't charge us loads for fed-forced feeding adverts
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Do this good man and show Samsung the middle finger

lol im hoping that when i pay £1500 on a phone i dont need to install DNS on it to turn off ads - honestly - what is it with samsung these days?!
i think soon the phones will come with some option like ads-free subscription OS - £10/mo - otherwise here is an OS full of adverts every 5 min

You only get them if you opt in to the customisation of each service. Customisation => personal ads. If you opt-out they should stop

tim2london said:
lol im hoping that when i pay £1500 on a phone i dont need to install DNS on it to turn off ads - honestly - what is it with samsung these days?!
i think soon the phones will come with some option like ads-free subscription OS - £10/mo - otherwise here is an OS full of adverts every 5 min
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In my humble opinion if you wanna fork out £1500 for a phone you gotta really own it, that´s what I´d do. I got the same phone and I´m rooted and I OWN it, no crap or horse **** from Samsung or Google. Why pay so much for a phone and accept bull**** from Samsung, why are you just hugging the **** and have all that knox and Samsung pissfuck still in it? My S21 Ultra is flying, the sound is outta this world, very light and debloated. I can still use my Banking stuff and all that, I have Sony Keyboard, Sony SketchEF font, Viper4Android, JamesDSP, Netflix, Amazon and all the many goodies plus my security is dope. So my man, you paid £1500 and gave Samsung the keys....I wouldn´t do that. Methinks

Aluyi said:
In my humble opinion if you wanna fork out £1500 for a phone you gotta really own it, that´s what I´d do. I got the same phone and I´m rooted and I OWN it, no crap or horse **** from Samsung or Google. Why pay so much for a phone and accept bull**** from Samsung, why are you just hugging the **** and have all that knox and Samsung pissfuck still in it? My S21 Ultra is flying, the sound is outta this world, very light and debloated. I can still use my Banking stuff and all that, I have Sony Keyboard, Sony SketchEF font, Viper4Android, JamesDSP, Netflix, Amazon and all the many goodies plus my security is dope. So my man, you paid £1500 and gave Samsung the keys....I wouldn´t do that. Methinks
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not everyone is a phone rooting guru or wants to be
i just want a phone with no ads
is that too much to ask these days?

tim2london said:
not everyone is a phone rooting guru or wants to be
i just want a phone with no ads
is that too much to ask these days?
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Guru would be taking it too far, these days the manufacturers don´t give a rat-ass about you or me, the powers that be that own all these firms know just one thing - make our lives harder while making us pay for it

This ads thing is location based. I don't get any ads on my S21U. No matter if I turn personalization on or off.

ione2380 said:
This ads thing is location based. I don't get any ads on my S21U. No matter if I turn personalization on or off.
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Can somehow force closing GPS help remove the ads?

tim2london said:
not everyone is a phone rooting guru or wants to be
i just want a phone with no ads
is that too much to ask these days?
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Turn of personalisation services in each app/service and you do not get ads. BTW personalisation = personal ads.
Samsung is still putting obnoxious ads on Galaxy devices; here's how to avoid most of them
Samsung plasters its expensive Galaxy smartphones and tablets with annoying ads, but thankfully you can turn a lot of them off. Here's how.
9to5google.com

LR7875 said:
Can somehow force closing GPS help remove the ads?
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Sorry, when I said location, I meant, it's region dependent, so it doesn't matter if you turn off location.

I get no ads in the UK by disabling the customisation or personalisation options in the apps. A mate who has the same phone but has not disabled them gets ads.

lywyn said:
Turn of personalisation services in each app/service and you do not get ads. BTW personalisation = personal ads.
Samsung is still putting obnoxious ads on Galaxy devices; here's how to avoid most of them
Samsung plasters its expensive Galaxy smartphones and tablets with annoying ads, but thankfully you can turn a lot of them off. Here's how.
9to5google.com
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Disable personalised ads will bring you some generic global ads such as PayPal, etc. It will still bring you ads, but less dependent on your region, hobbies, etc.
ione2380 said:
Sorry, when I said location, I meant, it's region dependent, so it doesn't matter if you turn off location.
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So skipping the entire setup process(even before you chooses your language), while hardly possible, can technically bring a zero ad experience?

LR7875 said:
Disable personalised ads will bring you some generic global ads such as PayPal, etc. It will still bring you ads, but less dependent on your region, hobbies, etc.
So skipping the entire setup process(even before you chooses your language), while hardly possible, can technically bring a zero ad experience?
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Just go to settings- privacy- customisation and see if it is turned on. Turn it off. Also see of you have "receive marketing information" on. Turn that off also.
I can't guarantee this will work, as I can't reproduce it on my phone. My csc doesn't receive ads.

Blacklist this: sspapi-prd.samsungrs.com
https://github.com/AdAway/AdAway

Block Ads on Android 9.0+ (Without downloading any app)
In android 9.0 pie and above we have an option to set Private DNS, this can be used to block ads on your phone. STEP 1- Under Connection in Settings, scroll down and select More Connection Settings. STEP 2- Select the Private DNS Option STEP 3- Select Private DNS provider...
r2.community.samsung.com
Just entered "dns.adguard.com" as private DNS server and it killed the ads in NOAA. So far no issues. Seems faster too.
I'm just playing around and not register or logged in to Adguard but it seems to be working.
This too easy...
What am I missing (if anything)?

Aluyi said:
Do this good man and show Samsung the middle finger
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That's exactly what I did! Ha!

tim2london said:
lol im hoping that when i pay £1500 on a phone i dont need to install DNS on it to turn off ads - honestly - what is it with samsung these days?!
i think soon the phones will come with some option like ads-free subscription OS - £10/mo - otherwise here is an OS full of adverts every 5 min
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No popular tech product respects your privacy or provides a good user experience out of the box. We have to be technologically literate to make basic improvements like blocking trackers and ads, and maybe just replacing their default apps with good ones.

Well flash a custom ROM once that is out, which won't have ads

Finn1sher said:
No popular tech product respects your privacy or provides a good user experience out of the box. We have to be technologically literate to make basic improvements like blocking trackers and ads, and maybe just replacing their default apps with good ones.
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Agreed!
I've introduced so many people to piHole and AdAway and browser plugins like uBlock, etc lately!