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My phone vibrates for no 'reason'

Greetings all,
I have a new Note5 and overall I like it.
As you might expect I have been working feverishly to find up to date app solutions for my usage model and that will work on an unrooted device. I despise all that conspire to force this upon us! Anyway I have been testing loads of apps and somewhere along the way something has been set to vibrate to indicate something. It is happening at fairly random intervals and nothing shows on screen or in the pull down that accounts for it.
I have looked for events that are pending, past due, etc. I don't get many texts. So, it isn't that. I have even turned on airplane mode which should prevent any kind of updaes or pushes that might trigger an notice.I have checked all of the apps I am using and none are set to vibrate only. From the initial turn on of this phone I have run package disabler pro for Samsung. Using a basic list from this xda thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563. I have restarted the phone several times as well
Can anyone suggest some kind of system monitor/logging app that I can load that will allow me to find out which application is triggering this? Is there some other way I can find out what is triggering this event? I expect that a logging app will eat battery more but on a temp basis that would be ok.
Thanks all and here's to someone finding a way for us to root our notes without messing up our warranty and secure payment...
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If you are talking about how it vibrates when you first pick it up for seemingly no reason, then that's a feature. It's to let you know you have notifications. It's called smart alert, you can disable it in the gestures menu.

vibrate (and sound) for 'no reason'
Thanks _MetalHead_
But no. This happens when it is sitting undisturbed. I will check and turn off that feature if it isnt already so it isnt adding to the confusion.
If I didnt say, I find no idication of active alarms or notifications.
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Do you have any Bluetooth devices connected? I had a smart watch with my S5. Every time it connected or disconnected, the phone would vibrate. This was especially annoying when I left the watch in the bedroom while sitting in the living room with my phone. Every few minutes it would connect/disconnect and the phone would vibrate.

STM8
Not clear if this is contributing. Will turn BT off to be certain.
Actually, I think I can say for certain no. This has happened in airplane mode.
That is why I am looking for a system logging application or some equivalent method.
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pwhalley said:
STM8
Not clear if this is contributing. Will turn BT off to be certain.
Actually, I think I can say for certain no. This has happened in airplane mode.
That is why I am looking for a system logging application or some equivalent method.
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Hi, Go to settings and go to S Pen Option, and turn off all S Pen alerts, including power saver one.

pwhalley said:
STM8
Not clear if this is contributing. Will turn BT off to be certain.
Actually, I think I can say for certain no. This has happened in airplane mode.
That is why I am looking for a system logging application or some equivalent method.
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Yeah, I re-read your OP, and noticed you said it was happening in airplane mode.
The S-Pen suggestion above seems worth pursuing.
Good luck!

I have the same problem. It would just randomly vibrate. I think is something to do with Google notifications.
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Missing notification because no sound

Since beginning i have my phone I'm facing this issue... most of time I'm don't hear even feel the vibration of some notifications. For example, I have the phone in my hands and put it into my pocket, 2 minutes later I take my phone again and there are notifications from gmail, whatsapp, etc, notifications that didn't beep or vibrate.
What can I do? Maybe I mess up some settings or something.
Thanks guys.

Conito11 said:
Since beginning i have my phone I'm facing this issue... most of time I'm don't hear even feel the vibration of some notifications. For example, I have the phone in my hands and put it into my pocket, 2 minutes later I take my phone again and there are notifications from gmail, whatsapp, etc, notifications that didn't beep or vibrate.
What can I do? Maybe I mess up some settings or something.
Thanks guys.
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Check your Notification Settings to make sure the app(s) in question are turned on. If so, look at Advanced Notification Settings...my wife's were set to "Show silently" once and that was the fix. Good luck.
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zonly1 said:
Check your Notification Settings to make sure the app(s) in question are turned on. If so, look at Advanced Notification Settings...my wife's were set to "Show silently" once and that was the fix. Good luck.
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All my settings are ok.... is really frustrating because I loose whatsapp, gmail, etc.

Same issue
I have the same issue after the Oreo update ,, with two different phones (a S8+ and a Note 8),notifications sound/vibration stopped working. Tried factory reset and the problem persists
The solution is restart the phone and the notification sound/vibration back again...
It looks that also Pixels users have the same issue https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/notification-sounds-stop-randomly-pixel-t3720585

Conito11 said:
All my settings are ok.... is really frustrating because I loose whatsapp, gmail, etc.
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Also make sure none of those apps are sleeping, check the whitelist for those apps.
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Limeybastard said:
Also make sure none of those apps are sleeping, check the whitelist for those apps.
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That's could be. Thanks you very much.

Too much battery saver?

My one month old P20 Pro has a frustrating problem. Stock ROM CLT-29 8.1.0.128 (C432) kernel 4.4.103+ not rooted.
Many apps fail to notify me. Not all the time but often enough. It seems like they never get to run so they dont update themselves and never notify me.
And a similar bluetooth issue. Occasionally things just connect. But more frequent they don't and I have to go into the bluetooth settings and connect manually.
I think this is the same problem. A too heavy handed battery saving regime stop my apps and the bluetooth app from running often enough to give me notifications or connect buetooth devices.
I have been into the Battery settings under Apps and tried various combos under App Launch settings. But can't see any difference.
I had this problem on my old Honor 8 phone too. I don't know if it's Huawei or Android. But I would love to find a way to get my notifications and bluetooth back?

Which apps aren't getting notifications?
If it's emails, make sure auto sync is on.
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stinekr said:
My one month old P20 Pro has a frustrating problem. Stock ROM CLT-29 8.1.0.128 (C432) kernel 4.4.103+ not rooted.
Many apps fail to notify me. Not all the time but often enough. It seems like they never get to run so they dont update themselves and never notify me.
And a similar bluetooth issue. Occasionally things just connect. But more frequent they don't and I have to go into the bluetooth settings and connect manually.
I think this is the same problem. A too heavy handed battery saving regime stop my apps and the bluetooth app from running often enough to give me notifications or connect buetooth devices.
I have been into the Battery settings under Apps and tried various combos under App Launch settings. But can't see any difference.
I had this problem on my old Honor 8 phone too. I don't know if it's Huawei or Android. But I would love to find a way to get my notifications and bluetooth back?
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Definitely not an Android issue I can tell you that.
A lot of people using the P20 pro and Mate 10 pro are complaining about notifications not coming through. I'm surprised Huawei haven't fixed this problem yet as it has been around for some times now. You would think this is the first thing they fix but nooo

Do you have battery saver enabled in battery settings? If affirmative, this is your problem since battery saver cuts background data etc.
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Definitely not an Android issue. I have the exact same issue on my P20 Pro and didn't have this issue on my pixel 2 XL.

Slash8915 said:
Definitely not an Android issue. I have the exact same issue on my P20 Pro and didn't have this issue on my pixel 2 XL.
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Weird. Mine always has this issue when I set battery saver on and by the time I switch bat saver off all notifications come up that moment.
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Set the apps in manual mode instead of auto for the battery usage and select that it runs in background

Go to Settings > Apps & Notifications > Apps > Settings > Special Access > Ignore Battery Optimisation
Then allow the apps as required.

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Do you have battery saver enabled in battery settings? If affirmative, this is your problem since battery saver cuts background data etc.
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No I have not.
dreamville said:
Set the apps in manual mode instead of auto for the battery usage and select that it runs in background
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I have already done this for several apps.
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Go to Settings > Apps & Notifications > Apps > Settings > Special Access > Ignore Battery Optimisation
Then allow the apps as required.
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Thanks! This one I did not know about. And apps already in manual battery mode were not listed here. So new hope...

Background processes killing. Is it problematic for you?

Reading this https://dontkillmyapp.com/oneplus I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
For instance, I've been using for several years this app, Stay Alive: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synetics.stay.alive
It gives you the option of having the screen not turning itself off when charging. It's crucial in the car, where I have a dock mounted and use the phone for navigation, music playback, etc.
On my previous Nexus 6P the app worked flawlessly. With 6T sometimes the screen turns off and then it turn itself on once more, as if the process got killed and then restarted.
I have the "don't optimize" option activated for Stay Alive.
There are other strange behaviours I'm seeing, with Tasker for instance. And the nagging feeling that they might depend on background process handling at the OS level.
I recently did turn off Battery/Battery Optimisation/Advanced Optimisation/Deep Optimisation and Sleep standby optimisation, hoping to get better results. I still haven't reached a conclusion about it.
I have to say that it's pretty annoying to have the phone decide for you what should be happening for apps. For instance, I had Firefox in the "Don't optimize" category but it still had problems with opening new pages after a while. Turning off the above two options seems to have cured the problem but if that is needed I wonder what the heck "Don't optimise" mean for OnePlus.
I hope to get to the bottom of this as, quite frankly, not having the phone "act on his own" behind the scenes is exactly why I chose Android as my OS.

gorman42 said:
Reading this https://dontkillmyapp.com/oneplus I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
For instance, I've been using for several years this app, Stay Alive: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synetics.stay.alive
It gives you the option of having the screen not turning itself off when charging. It's crucial in the car, where I have a dock mounted and use the phone for navigation, music playback, etc.
On my previous Nexus 6P the app worked flawlessly. With 6T sometimes the screen turns off and then it turn itself on once more, as if the process got killed and then restarted.
I have the "don't optimize" option activated for Stay Alive.
There are other strange behaviours I'm seeing, with Tasker for instance. And the nagging feeling that they might depend on background process handling at the OS level.
I recently did turn off Battery/Battery Optimisation/Advanced Optimisation/Deep Optimisation and Sleep standby optimisation, hoping to get better results. I still haven't reached a conclusion about it.
I have to say that it's pretty annoying to have the phone decides for you what should be happening for apps. For instance, I had Firefox in the "Don't optimize" category but it still had problems with opening new pages after a while. Turning off the above two options seems to have cured the problem but if that is needed I wonder what the heck "Don't optimise" mean for OnePlus.
I hope to get to the bottom of this as, quite frankly, not having the phone "act on his own" behind the scenes is exactly why I chose Android as my OS.
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Thank you for this.
I've been feeling stupid having all these issues of pass getting killed in the background.
For me proper working phone is more important than battery life. I can easily get one whole day 6AM-11PM with around 30% battery left.
I would be ok if the apps won't get killed and I have say, 10% battery left at the end of the day.

I also don't understand this, it's what I really dislike about the OnePlus phones. In earlier Android versions it was always adviced not to use app killers because the Android OS knows best when to kill an app. Now OnePlus is doing exactly this, and then call it an optimization... [emoji848]
But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?

rmaathuis said:
I also don't understand this, it's what I really dislike about the OnePlus phones. In earlier Android versions it was always adviced not to use app killers because the Android OS knows best when to kill an app. Now OnePlus is doing exactly this, and then call it an optimization... [emoji848]
But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?
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I want to say you're right but it's not only OnePlus that has too aggressive background killing. Google put optimization into Android a couple of years ago and they can't seem to hit a perfect medium between both. I'm sick of switching apps and then going back into an app a couple of minutes later to just have to start at the top of the feed again. It's annoying and it's happened with my 6t, Moto z, Droid turbo, lg g4, and my Galaxy s6 when they were all in their "prime". I think it boils down to Google ultimately

Turn off adaptive battery and on your apps you absolutely want untouched selectDon't optimize under battery > battery optimizations. After doing that I have what is consider a normal experience.

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But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?
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Yes, I am. But the screen dims. It doesn't turn off but it dims. For in car navigation that is clearly undesired.
I wonder whether rooting would give me back the control I need through some third party modification...

Aridon said:
Turn off adaptive battery and on your apps you absolutely want untouched selectDon't optimize under battery > battery optimizations. After doing that I have what is consider a normal experience.
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But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.

Whats solitions.
İ open accebility settings for any app and closed automatical..
Whyy
I'm sorry for my bad english

gorman42 said:
But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.
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You find solitions ?
I'm sorry for my bad english

gorman42 said:
But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.
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What most of the times work for for me is open the app, then go to recent app management, click on the 3 dots in the upper right corner above the app and choose lock.
And thanks for the tip of this app, because of company policy "stay awake" was disabled on my device and this app overrides it (Earlier I tried 2 or 3 similar apps but they didn't work, this one does).

gorman42 said:
I wonder whether rooting would give me back the control I need through some third party modification...
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You really shouldn't have to modify your phone to, by chance, fix what OnePlus did (same could be said about other OEMs too, but that's besides the point right now). OnePlus needs to fix this issue, which has been an ongoing thing in their ROMs for over two years.
It's a shame that it takes a few app devs getting bad reviews on their apps to come up with a website pointing out the offenders of aggressive app management, with OnePlus being number 2 on the list for this issue to pick up traction, despite numerous users reporting about it on their forum and via in-app feedback for so long.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: Compared to OxygenOS on the 3T, OxygenOS nowadays has become so nice to use on the 6T that I don't have a need to root anymore. It's just this issue that really hampers it.

I fell in love with OnePlus when I bought my very first OnePlus phone, the OnePlus 3T. I've since then owned the OnePlus 5T and 6T. Unfortunately I've been disappointed with both because of this specific issue. If they don't resolve this issue within the lifetime of my 6T I feel obligated to start looking for something other than a OnePlus phone next Such a shame, as I love everything else about OnePlus and OxygenOS.

While investigating this I stumbled upon a setting in Developer Options.
Here’s the description and explanation: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-android-pie-standby-apps/
Problem is, with 6T all apps are stuck to ACTIVE status, you can’t modify their status. I guess this could point to OnePlus messing with regular Android power management.

gorman42 said:
While investigating this I stumbled upon a setting in Developer Options.
Here’s the description and explanation: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-android-pie-standby-apps/
Problem is, with 6T all apps are stuck to ACTIVE status, you can’t modify their status. I guess this could point to OnePlus messing with regular Android power management.
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Are you sure you can't modify the settings, I've tried it and let's me change as per the link you posted?
I agree with you guys the app management is pretty aggressive.

wilpang said:
Are you sure you can't modify the settings, I've tried it and let's me change as per the link you posted?
I agree with you guys the app management is pretty aggressive.
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Yeah, I tried before writing here.
It happens when you disable Adaptive Battery. If Adaptive Battery is enabled, those settings are active.

I have the same issues with several apps (Tasker, Gravity Screen, Whatsapo (Web)...). The apps was running perfectly on my old lg g4 but on the OPO 6T they gets killed too often. Also disabled adaptive Battery and set those apps to dont optimize. But this doesnt helps....
In previous OOS on the 5T there was an setting for background apps count in developer options, this is sadly gone on our 6T. Is there a way to use this option also when removed from dev options?
(maybe editing some files).
Thx
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Yes this is very unfortunate.. sometimes I even miss calls and they straight to voicemail

gorman42 said:
Reading this I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
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Yes, it is a problem for me. Never had a phone with such aggressive battery management. It even periodically kills my wifi for no reason.

There are 3 settings under Settings > Battery:
1. Battery Saver
2. Battery optimization
3. Adaptive Battery
I have been able to get a somewhat 'normal' experience after turning all 3 options off for Whatsapp, Tasker, etc... For some programs, it seems that it needs to be started, and left running without closing the program in 'Recentd's..
I am rooted and use Greenify to close programs that I want killed when in the background..

@gorman42
Why do you need this staying-alive app?
Google Maps and Waze already make the device's screen stay awake while navigating...

Monitor Samsung Galaxy Watch battery

I have a Samsung Galaxy Watch and a Samsung S10 phone. Several times over the past week or so, my watch battery has completely drained in about an hour. I only notice when it vibrates at 15%. There doesn't seem to be anyway to get a notification either from the watch or through the Samsung Wearable app when it reaches 30% instead of 15%. Is there a way to create a task on the phone to notify me when the watch's battery level reaches 30%?
Thanks.

Sorry I have no answer to your question but as a user of the gw myself, what are you doing to drain the battery that fast? Do you have the 42 or 46mm version?
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xe0r said:
Sorry I have no answer to your question but as a user of the gw myself, what are you doing to drain the battery that fast? Do you have the 42 or 46mm version?
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I have the 42mm. Unfortunately, I'm not doing anything. It is a bug with the watch (or phone). It happens to my husband's 46mm as well. It will suddenly just become unresponsive and burn through the battery. It can drain a full battery in about an hour. Several times, I've charged it completely before bedtime, put it on to sleep, and then sometime during the night it'll drain and turn off. Happens randomly during the day, too.

That for sure makes the watch unusable. I am using the 46mm variant and use it heavily for tracking sports and / or use the navigation while sport (eg riding bike). Even with this heavy usage I never had less than ~40% in the evening. For everyday use I get 3 days with 30 percent left with my medium usage setup, if I switch off some sensors I would even get more I guess. That's what you can take as a comparison for the 46mm watch.
Now how to get there? Don't try to spend time into tracking this drain with tasker or whatever, instead pull it by the root. Sounds like some app is misbehaving (in the background?). I would try to start looking for apps on the watch. What 3rd party apps do you AND your husband have both installed? Remove them, one by one, and watch the result. I have only 3 3rd party apps (GPS navigation, wrist camera and watchevents). If it doesn't get better after you only have the stock apps installed, you unfortunately have to make a reset to the settings. If the behaviour comes back after the reset with only the stock apps, send it back if you still have warranty.
Btw, you know that you can see the apps that are running in the background on the watch? I put this overview on the double tap action on the home button. You can also use this for further investigation, like close all apps instead of one, like the suspicious one and so on...
Keep me updated on the results!
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xe0r said:
Btw, you know that you can see the apps that are running in the background on the watch? I put this overview on the double tap action on the home button. You can also use this for further investigation, like close all apps instead of one, like the suspicious one and so on...
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How do you see which apps are running? I know through the Samsung Wearables app that I can see what apps have used the most battery since last charged, but unfortunately that is no help in this situation. I just removed a couple of apps that were on the watch that I don't use (Samsung Flow, and one or two others). Now the only uninstallable apps are Timer and Stopwatch. Everything else is a stock app (most of which I never use).
Thanks.

I don't know how it is called in English, so I roughly translate it on the fly:
- Settings
- Expanded settings (4th entry with the orange gear and plus sign)
- Double tab home button
- tick recent apps --> [x]
Now you get an overview of the open apps when you do a double click on the home button.
Why does it not help to see which app is using the most battery in the wearable app? Whas it a 3rd party app? System app?
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