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NO NFC on Chinese Version AL10 P9 Plus

It was mentioned in another post that the Chinese variant of the P9 Plus. I'm making another post just to help others from making the same mistake as I did. I totally bought this phone （AL-10) expecting it to have NFC and was quite disappointed to find out the phone didn't have NFC . I tried to return the phone the next day, but of course, Chinese return policies aren't quite as flexible as North America. I was totally pumped to be able to use Android pay.
I wonder if the phone NFC capable but the Chinese version of EMUI somehow has it disabled at the software level? AL-10)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67036212&postcount=2

scook94 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67036212&postcount=2
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Thanks! I already read that post. But I was wondering if the NFC is perhaps just disabled on the software level. I know sometimes OEM's can disable phone features at the software level even though the capability may be present in the hardware.
My options at this point are to just tough it out and have no NFC/Android pay, sell the phone and but the international variant, or wait for Huawei to come out with a smartwatch that has NFC and pair it with the phone.
Alan

[email protected] said:
It was mentioned in another post that the Chinese variant of the P9 Plus. I'm making another post just to help others from making the same mistake as I did. I totally bought this phone （AL-10) expecting it to have NFC and was quite disappointed to find out the phone didn't have NFC . I tried to return the phone the next day, but of course, Chinese return policies aren't quite as flexible as North America. I was totally pumped to be able to use Android pay.
I wonder if the phone NFC capable but the Chinese version of EMUI somehow has it disabled at the software level? AL-10)
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Anyone here with the VIE-AL10 model can tell me the frequencies available on the phone ?
I would like to know from inside the phone itself, where there is the option to activate and use the different frequencies, what is available. I found different specifications on different websites and even the Huawei website does not list the VIE-AL10 . I want to make sure that I will be able to use it in the USA and in Europe as well .
Thank you very much
Thanks .

angelosabatini said:
Anyone here with the VIE-AL10 model can tell me the frequencies available on the phone ?
I would like to know from inside the phone itself, where there is the option to activate and use the different frequencies, what is available. I found different specifications on different websites and even the Huawei website does not list the VIE-AL10 . I want to make sure that I will be able to use it in the USA and in Europe as well .
Thank you very much
Thanks .
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From Huawei's site:
FDD-LTE:
Band1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26
（FDD B1/B3是电信主频段，其他都是电信漫游频段）
（FDD B3是联通主频段，其他都是联通漫游频段）
（FDD LTE是移动漫游频段）
TDD-LTE:
Band38/39/40/41（100M)；
（TDD B38/39/40/41是移动主频段）
（TDD B41是电信、联通主频段，其他TDD频段都是电信、联通漫游频段）
UMTS(WCDMA)/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA:
850/900/AWS/1900/2100(Band5/8/4/2/1/6/19)；
（WCDMA的B1/B8 联通主频段，其他都是漫游频段）
（WCDMA是移动、电信的漫游频段）
支持DC功能,具体现网依赖运营商网络是否支持。
TD-SCDMA: Band34/39;（移动主频段）
CDMA2000/1X:BC0( 800MHz)； (仅限中国大陆及澳门电信)
GSM/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900MHz
副卡:
GSM/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900MHz
CDMA2000/1X:BC0( 800MHz)

djyoshii said:
From Huawei's site:
FDD-LTE:
Band1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26
（FDD B1/B3是电信主频段，其他都是电信漫游频段）
（FDD B3是联通主频段，其他都是联通漫游频段）
（FDD LTE是移动漫游频段）
TDD-LTE:
Band38/39/40/41（100M)；
（TDD B38/39/40/41是移动主频段）
（TDD B41是电信、联通主频段，其他TDD频段都是电信、联通漫游频段）
UMTS(WCDMA)/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA:
850/900/AWS/1900/2100(Band5/8/4/2/1/6/19)；
（WCDMA的B1/B8 联通主频段，其他都是漫游频段）
（WCDMA是移动、电信的漫游频段）
支持DC功能,具体现网依赖运营商网络是否支持。
TD-SCDMA: Band34/39;（移动主频段）
CDMA2000/1X:BC0( 800MHz)； (仅限中国大陆及澳门电信)
GSM/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900MHz
副卡:
GSM/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900MHz
CDMA2000/1X:BC0( 800MHz)
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Thank you . I appreciate.

[email protected] said:
It was mentioned in another post that the Chinese variant of the P9 Plus. I'm making another post just to help others from making the same mistake as I did. I totally bought this phone （AL-10) expecting it to have NFC and was quite disappointed to find out the phone didn't have NFC . I tried to return the phone the next day, but of course, Chinese return policies aren't quite as flexible as North America. I was totally pumped to be able to use Android pay.
I wonder if the phone NFC capable but the Chinese version of EMUI somehow has it disabled at the software level? AL-10)
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Wowwwww. I made the same mistake. (side note I also can't seem to get force touch to work). Android pay is sort of a deal breaker for me. Very disappointing the Huawei website didn't seem to indicate this model would not have NFC. I think I might try to resell it. Really lame.

austriker27 said:
Wowwwww. I made the same mistake. (side note I also can't seem to get force touch to work). Android pay is sort of a deal breaker for me. Very disappointing the Huawei website didn't seem to indicate this model would not have NFC. I think I might try to resell it. Really lame.
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Force touch only on the 128gb of Chinese Version.
Sent from my VIE-L29 using XDA Labs

Mostar088 said:
Force touch only on the 128gb of Chinese Version.
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Really??? Dang. I wish that would be explained clearer somewhere. Guess I'll check that off my list of features. I think know I'll look for the version of the P9 that has NFC since I like that size more.

austriker27 said:
Really??? Dang. I wish that would be explained clearer somewhere. Guess I'll check that off my list of features. I think know I'll look for the version of the P9 that has NFC since I like that size more.
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Buy the version VIE-L29 64gb it has NFC and force touch. AL10 and AL00 are China Version. L29 has dual sim L09 singel sim.
Sent from my VIE-L29 using XDA Labs

Mi8 NFC or No NFC?

So, does the Xiaomi Mi8 from GearBest have NFC? Because I was this close to buying a Mi8 but then I've noticed that in the product page the specs didn't show NFC but there are other listings who show NFC in the specs!I need NFC in my daily life. Bus and train pass, college dorm acess and etc.
Mi8 GearBest this the one that I was going to get.
Mi8 GearBest this one in the Q&A page says it has NFC but it doesn't on the spec sheet
Mi8 GearBest this one has NFC in the specs sheet
The other listings don't even mention NFC
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I don't get it.. Should I just get the version I want and it will come with NFC regardless or some versions have it and others don't? I'm really confused by this
Also, I'm in Portugal. Is there any difference in getting the Global, International or even the Chinese/English version of the phone (power brick, ROM, phone model)?
Thanks

PedroCaseiro said:
So, does the Xiaomi Mi8 from GearBest have NFC? Because I was this close to buying a Mi8 but then I've noticed that in the product page the specs didn't show NFC but there are other listings who show NFC in the specs!I need NFC in my daily life. Bus and train pass, college dorm acess and etc.
Mi8 GearBest this the one that I was going to get.
Mi8 GearBest this one in the Q&A page says it has NFC but it doesn't on the spec sheet
Mi8 GearBest this one has NFC in the specs sheet
The other listings don't even mention NFC
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I don't get it.. Should I just get the version I want and it will come with NFC regardless or some versions have it and others don't? I'm really confused by this
Also, I'm in Portugal. Is there any difference in getting the Global, International or even the Chinese/English version of the phone (power brick, ROM, phone model)?
Thanks
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yes it does have nfc ...
lenguages supports Chinese ron only support their lenguages and english only while global does spanish/english and may other ....
follow my last post .....

altvolt74 said:
yes it does have nfc ...
lenguages supports Chinese ron only support their lenguages and english only while global does spanish/english and may other ....
follow my last post .....
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When they put global rom does the NFC still work for Google pay?

krouri said:
When they put global rom does the NFC still work for Google pay?
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no, you'll get google pay only when using a costum rom like xiaomi.eu that explicitly supports google pay.
I can confirm xiaomi.eu's google pay work perfect.

Flash-User said:
no, you'll get google pay only when using a costum rom like xiaomi.eu that explicitly supports google pay.
I can confirm xiaomi.eu's google pay work perfect.
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Sorry mate, but google pay does indeed work on the stable global rom. My bootloader is locked tho.

difference between K20 Pro Chinese and Indian

Hello All
I will be having two devices of K20 Pro in about one month from now
One from India and the second from China
I will have mine for myself and the other for a friend of mine
Now which should should i take , the chinese or the Indian variant
I know that both donot support B20 but i am in North Africa and we donot have it and i donot go to europe
( If it happened i will force connex to 3g during roaming instead of LTE not a big deal )
Anyway i will unlock the bootloader as i am used on AOSP custom roms in my current lovely pocophone
So in case of chniese i will unlock bootloader and root and either use Indian ROM or EU MIUI Rom till the custom roms are mature enough
In case of Indian I will only root till later for the custom Roms
The only difference i am aware about is that chinese have NFC while indian donot , IS THERE ANY OTHER DIFFERENCE ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT ?
I made my reading and knew that NFC is not yet supported on MIUI Indian ROM while it is supported on the EU
Chinese MIUI is a no go even after adding google services and support as most people advised it is very skinned and heavy UI
Still donot know about custom roms NFC support yet
I never used NFC till now, What do you guys use it for exactly as it will make my choice more focused ??
For small files i transfer via Bluetooth, For large files i transfer via Google Files App ( same concept as share.it or making a hotspot and the other party joins and recieve )

shouk_1987 said:
Hello All
I will be having two devices of K20 Pro in about one month from now
One from India and the second from China
I will have mine for myself and the other for a friend of mine
Now which should should i take , the chinese or the Indian variant
I know that both donot support B20 but i am in North Africa and we donot have it and i donot go to europe
( If it happened i will force connex to 3g during roaming instead of LTE not a big deal )
Anyway i will unlock the bootloader as i am used on AOSP custom roms in my current lovely pocophone
So in case of chniese i will unlock bootloader and root and either use Indian ROM or EU MIUI Rom till the custom roms are mature enough
In case of Indian I will only root till later for the custom Roms
The only difference i am aware about is that chinese have NFC while indian donot , IS THERE ANY OTHER DIFFERENCE ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT ?
I made my reading and knew that NFC is not yet supported on MIUI Indian ROM while it is supported on the EU
Chinese MIUI is a no go even after adding google services and support as most people advised it is very skinned and heavy UI
Still donot know about custom roms NFC support yet
I never used NFC till now, What do you guys use it for exactly as it will make my choice more focused ??
For small files i transfer via Bluetooth, For large files i transfer via Google Files App ( same concept as share.it or making a hotspot and the other party joins and recieve )
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NFC is used for wireless payments
Differences:
1.China model has a Samsung manufactured amoled panel, whereas Indian unit has an amoled panel manufactured by some other company
2.NFC Chip
Verdict: Chinese model is slightly ahead on hardware

2VJ5 said:
NFC is used for wireless payments
Differences:
1.China model has a Samsung manufactured amoled panel, whereas Indian unit has an amoled panel manufactured by some other company
2.NFC Chip
Verdict: Chinese model is slightly ahead on hardware
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Many Thanks Bro :good:

2VJ5 said:
NFC is used for wireless payments
Differences:
1.China model has a Samsung manufactured amoled panel, whereas Indian unit has an amoled panel manufactured by some other company
2.NFC Chip
Verdict: Chinese model is slightly ahead on hardware
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How can you say Indian model display is not Samsung manufacturered???
In same price:
No Samsung display
No nfc
No b20
Are we cheated in some aspects even after paying same???

gurwinderr84 said:
How can you say Indian model display is not Samsung manufacturered???
In same price:
No Samsung display
No nfc
No b20
Are we cheated in some aspects even after paying same???
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It's not cheating, is called clever advertisement. They never mentioned anywhere that they'll be using Samsung Amoled Sreen
IMO it's a good panel regardless.

2VJ5 said:
It's not cheating, is called clever advertisement. They never mentioned anywhere that they'll be using Samsung Amoled Sreen
IMO it's a good panel regardless.
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But, on AIDA64 app it shows Samsung display. You can check with this app. Soooo....

gurwinderr84 said:
But, on AIDA64 app it shows Samsung display. You can check with this app. Soooo....
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Some Indian K20 pros are actually Chinese K20 pro, they imported some devices from China to deal with emergency demand in Indian market. Those devices also have NFC but disabled by Indian firmware.

Angelina7 said:
Some Indian K20 pros are actually Chinese K20 pro, they imported some devices from China to deal with emergency demand in Indian market. Those devices also have NFC but disabled by Indian firmware.
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Is there anyway to know indian device hardware
I mean if it have NFC or samsung amoled display on the indian miui ??

gurwinderr84 said:
But, on AIDA64 app it shows Samsung display. You can check with this app. Soooo....
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Share the screenshot where it is showing Samsung panel
Sent from my Redmi K20 Pro

ca_guri01 said:
Share the screenshot where it is showing Samsung panel
Sent from my Redmi K20 Pro
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Sorry my mistake, its showing super amoled

I think it has Samsung Display
2VJ5 said:
NFC is used for wireless payments
Differences:
1.China model has a Samsung manufactured amoled panel, whereas Indian unit has an amoled panel manufactured by some other company
2.NFC Chip
Verdict: Chinese model is slightly ahead on hardware
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As per my knowledge only Samsung can call it's display Super Amoled(Parented) and Xiaomi is also mentioned it is Super Amoled also using AIDA64 I can see it is super Amoled so it must be Samsung or m I wrong?

s.kumar said:
As per my knowledge only Samsung can call it's display Super Amoled(Parented) and Xiaomi is also mentioned it is Super Amoled also using AIDA64 I can see it is super Amoled so it must be Samsung or m I wrong?
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It's not patented by Samsung, it is trying to go for "Dynamic Amoled" patent but super amoled can be used by any company.

2VJ5 said:
It's not patented by Samsung, it is trying to go for "Dynamic Amoled" patent but super amoled can be used by any company.
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Hmn may be I am wrong but as per almost all tech sites, "Samsung tried ti get patent for the name AMOLED but when they didn't get it They applied for Super Amoled and they got the patent

2VJ5 said:
It's not patented by Samsung, it is trying to go for "Dynamic Amoled" patent but super amoled can be used by any company.
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s.kumar said:
Hmn may be I am wrong but as per almost all tech sites, "Samsung tried ti get patent for the name AMOLED but when they didn't get it They applied for Super Amoled and they got the patent
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With names you apply for a trademark not a patent. In America, Samsung own the trademark 'Super AMOLED'. I'm not sure where else in the world they have successfully got 'Super AMOLED' trademarked. It's possible that other companies can use the name 'Super AMOLED' in other countries.

When can I buy it in the UK?

i have a Mi 9T Pro (Global ROM), it doesn't support call recording (Stock Google Dialer) nor showing call waiting.
I'm thinking of flashing Indian ROM as it support these missing features. my question is: what are the differences between the two ROMs??
what will i miss from the global ROM if i switched and what i will get more from the Indian ROM?
Plus: are google apps included in Indian ROM
At last: will i receive software updates (MIUI/android/security patches) after unlocking bootloader to flash the Indian ROM?

NaAZoOR said:
i have a Mi 9T Pro (Global ROM), it doesn't support call recording (Stock Google Dialer) nor showing call waiting.
I'm thinking of flashing Indian ROM as it support these missing features. my question is: what are the differences between the two ROMs??
what will i miss from the global ROM if i switched and what i will get more from the Indian ROM?
Plus: are google apps included in Indian ROM
At last: will i receive software updates (MIUI/android/security patches) after unlocking bootloader to flash the Indian ROM?
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You'll lose NFC functionality. You'll gain Android 10 and probably earlier access to MIUI 11. You'll get an app drawer (which will also be added to MIUI 11 by default, I believe). Otherwise, there's not a great deal of difference. You'll still have the Play Store as standard. People have claimed their phone runs smoother with the Indian ROM, but I'll take that info with a pinch of salt. I think it's just wishful thinking.
OTA for the Indian ROM should work as normal.

Robbo.5000 said:
You'll lose NFC functionality. You'll gain Android 10 and probably earlier access to MIUI 11. You'll get an app drawer (which will also be added to MIUI 11 by default, I believe). Otherwise, there's not a great deal of difference. You'll still have the Play Store as standard. People have claimed their phone runs smoother with the Indian ROM, but I'll take that info with a pinch of salt. I think it's just wishful thinking.
OTA for the Indian ROM should work as normal.
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appreciate your answers, but does unlocking bootloader (to flash Indian ROM) affect anything concerning regular updates or support/feedback etc, .... ??
also, any idea of supporting arabic language as for reading online or recognize local stored files on device?

NaAZoOR said:
appreciate your answers, but does unlocking bootloader (to flash Indian ROM) affect anything concerning regular updates or support/feedback etc, .... ??
also, any idea of supporting arabic language as for reading online or recognize local stored files on device?
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Unlocking bootloader will not affect OTA. You will still get OTA updates on the Indian ROM, as normal. You should still get support as Xiaomi officially allow bootloader unlocking. If you do need to send/take it to a service centre, just flash the phone back to it's original region stock ROM.
I couldn't say for definite what Arabic language support there is, though I would except there to be some.

How to check and activate NFC

Guys i have a redmi k20 pro Indian model which i got during alpha sale in India and now i have unlocked bootloader and flashed hovoc os running on it but my question is, when I checked for NFC in app i get this message saying NFC is present but not activated on my device.
I searched on forms and people say that some units might have been shipped from China to meet the demands so if my unit is also from China maybe i have NFC and i want to know how to activate that.
So my question is how to activate this NFC if it's present?
Image attached below for reference.
Any info on this will be much appreciated. Thanks

Indian units don't have the NFC coil. Just ignore that false positive.
Sent from my Redmi K20 Pro using Tapatalk

aashiq10 said:
Guys i have a redmi k20 pro Indian model which i got during alpha sale in India and now i have unlocked bootloader and flashed hovoc os running on it but my question is, when I checked for NFC in app i get this message saying NFC is present but not activated on my device.
I searched on forms and people say that some units might have been shipped from China to meet the demands so if my unit is also from China maybe i have NFC and i want to know how to activate that.
So my question is how to activate this NFC if it's present?
Image attached below for reference.
Any info on this will be much appreciated. Thanks
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try to flash one of the global roms available, if your device has the nfc hardware, it'll get unlocked on global.
Regards

aashiq10 said:
Guys i have a redmi k20 pro Indian model which i got during alpha sale in India and now i have unlocked bootloader and flashed hovoc os running on it but my question is, when I checked for NFC in app i get this message saying NFC is present but not activated on my device.
I searched on forms and people say that some units might have been shipped from China to meet the demands so if my unit is also from China maybe i have NFC and i want to know how to activate that.
So my question is how to activate this NFC if it's present?
Image attached below for reference.
Any info on this will be much appreciated. Thanks
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It has never been shown for definite that Chinese models were sold in India. In the first few days after launching, a small number of people claimed they had working NFC after flashing the Chinese ROM, which led to the speculation that maybe some Chinese units were moved to India to cover demand. However it has never been verified that anyone did actually have working NFC on the earliest Indian models.

OldDroid said:
try to flash one of the global roms available, if your device has the nfc hardware, it'll get unlocked on global.
Regards
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I did flash China miui 10.3.6 or 10.3.16 which i don't remember correctly but it showed the NFC but when i activate it doesn't activate and deactivates and closes the settings also same happened with EU miui so i guess it didn't work out. I flashed both rom via miflashtool

Robbo.5000 said:
It has never been shown for definite that Chinese models were sold in India. In the first few days after launching, a small number of people claimed they had working NFC after flashing the Chinese ROM, which led to the speculation that maybe some Chinese units were moved to India to cover demand. However it has never been verified that anyone did actually have working NFC on the earliest Indian models.
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Yes i agree with you on that

NFC Problem

I just got this phone. And before I buy it, I went to GSMArena and checked the specs. And I found that it supports NFC. And when I checked the settings, there is no NFC option. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

SomeoneFromOuterSpace said:
I just got this phone. And before I buy it, I went to GSMArena and checked the specs. And I found that it supports NFC. And when I checked the settings, there is no NFC option. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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There is various version of Redmi 9 :
3/32
3/32 NFC
4/64
4/64 NFC
So if you don't see any NFC option, you have purchased the non-NFC version, there is nothing u can do to fix it , other than purchase the NFC version

I remember seeing the pics and one says it supports NFC

SomeoneFromOuterSpace said:
I remember seeing the pics and one says it supports NFC
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most of sites show the NFC version , but as i said , there are non-nfc version as well , like the one i have

OK I'm still waiting for other people's responses

SomeoneFromOuterSpace said:
I just got this phone. And before I buy it, I went to GSMArena and checked the specs. And I found that it supports NFC. And when I checked the settings, there is no NFC option. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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Their are two varient nfc and without nfc...you bought the without nfc so you cannot find it