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Ram insufficient?

Do you feel that the 512 mb ram is insufficient?? usually my phone get ard 130+ mb ram free. I Do personally feel regret getting o2x instead of atrix. Do anyone of you feel the same??

tankwokhwee said:
Do you feel that the 512 mb ram is insufficient?? usually my phone get ard 130+ mb ram free. I Do personally feel regret getting o2x instead of atrix. Do anyone of you feel the same??
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Nope no regrets. Doesn't matter 130+mb, phone still works like a charm.

Nope, the RAM is fine IMO.
Sure as hell don't wish I bought an Atrix, PenTile displays are not for winners.

mine is @ 100-130 pretty much all the time, runs fine here
stock 2.2.2

I'm rooted and modified.
Around 160/180 free.

I not quite sure about my thinking, because every time i tried to play flash using the browser, after loading something i get FC, and is it due to insufficient of ram? I tried the same Flash on SGS II, i works perfectly.

tankwokhwee said:
I not quite sure about my thinking, because every time i tried to play flash using the browser, after loading something i get FC, and is it due to insufficient of ram? I tried the same Flash on SGS II, i works perfectly.
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No issues here. What rom you on?

Stock v10d
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

Free RAM is useless. Better app and memory management, well, that's another thing.
Android generally has a problem with auto-starting apps, IMHO. I go mad when I see an app running, while knowing that I didn't start it, don't need it today or any day soon. But it's there, just consuming phone's resources and annoying me. Damn.
Then I kill few of them, even though I read somewhere it's contra productive. That may be true in some ways, only it is not confirmed by subjective feeling which tells me the opposite. Phone gets faster

tankwokhwee said:
Do you feel that the 512 mb ram is insufficient?? usually my phone get ard 130+ mb ram free. I Do personally feel regret getting o2x instead of atrix. Do anyone of you feel the same??
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i feel it this way 2 - just watch this and u will understand why http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QSM27Mvn5Fo and think that is just a prototype same hardware but 1gb of ram

I think that it is insufficient for me sometimes, well maybe thats because some of those useless apps/services are running, we can disable/freeze it by 3rd party app tho.
But overall, the memory is good and enough for me

ICS on 512MB a problem?

Just wondering... is 512MB going to be a problem with ICS?
(It's a simple question I know)

Scougar said:
Just wondering... is 512MB going to be a problem with ICS?
(It's a simple question I know)
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I'm writing this from CM9 ICS alpha and runs perfect, don't worry for that
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No, it shouldn't be a problem.
But please post such things in the ICS discussion thread!

Flix123 said:
No, it shouldn't be a problem.
But please post such things in the ICS discussion thread!
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Thanks and apologies. I had wondered if getting a 1GB model phone would have been a significant advantage.
(Mod feel free to move the question to a post in the discussion thread).

Scougar said:
Thanks and apologies. I had wondered if getting a 1GB model phone would have been a significant advantage.
(Mod feel free to move the question to a post in the discussion thread).
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You can almost guarantee that a 1GB model will be better. The Optimus 2X does struggle with it's 512 mb, because 128mb is attributed to the GPU. Lukily, some kernels, like IronKrnl free some of that memory up and give it back to the CPU, but it's still losing 80mb.
Also, it's worth noting that, if you want to run ICS, if you look at the phones out that have 1gb of ram, you'll see they're all actually better phones- especially what Samsung make.
So, while the O2X is a cheap dual-core device. The best experience will come with something with 1gb of RAM, as it's much more likely to also get ICS. (Due in part because most 1gb phones have already had an announcement, and for it to be soon)

ICS is very hungry in memory. On my Asus Tablet running official, my 1GB RAM is fully used, as usual in Linux but at a higher level than in GB.
To run ICS correctly on O2X, you must use IronKrnl, the 48mb ramhack version is correct (means it steals 48MB to GPU, leaving only 80MB to it), and modifying memory killer values to a sort of aggressive profile.

Yea right, so this is why I had less free memory on GB. And now I have CM kernel on ICS. I doubt you actually tried CM9 alpha on O2X if you are talking crap like this about performance.
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The browser in ICS works better even though we have 512MB. It always returned to where I had left. 512 and less is enough for full desktop environments on PC even.

Ph4nt0m_ said:
Yea right, so this is why I had less free memory on GB. And now I have CM kernel on ICS. I doubt you actually tried CM9 alpha on O2X if you are talking crap like this about performance.
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See my sig and stop arguing. I run CM9 since first day Ricardo published SK0, and now running SK2 with latest Ironkrnl. Setiron himself admitted on Google+that ICS is a memory eater.

Dont know how much free memory we're talking about here but I'm on SK2 with original CM9 kernel. Using Adv.Task Killer from time to time and I always have around 200-240 Mb free memory. Just sharing my experience

Running CM9 aswell and its sooooo smooth, faster than any rom ive tried

OK, so what happens when you want to run Tegra games? (like Dungeon Defenders for example). A shame you cannot dynamically set the ram hack :-(

Scougar said:
OK, so what happens when you want to run Tegra games? (like Dungeon Defenders for example). A shame you cannot dynamically set the ram hack :-(
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That's the real question... Free memory when phone is idle means nothing. Plus you have to consider the lowmemkiller values you have set, I personnally use aggressive values: 16 24 32 90 100 110 to free the most possible memory.
Many users report freezes with games that run perfectly on GB. The problem or ramhack is choosing the right value for gaming, it seems 48mb version is the best compromise. A 'on the fly' feature was not planned for the moment by Setiron in one of his G+ posts.

Mjuksel said:
Running CM9 aswell and its sooooo smooth, faster than any rom ive tried
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That has no direct link with OP. But it's true it's smooth lol.

Striatum_bdr said:
That has no direct link with OP. But it's true it's smooth lol.
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It does. In low memory situations ICS seems to keep running better and smoother compared to GB. If you get under 40mb free on GB everythings gets very slow, with ICS it seems to handle it a bit more elegantly from a user experience.

Please don't think I'm pesimistic here, I'm just going off the comments: Given that OEM releases tend to be bloated and memory wasteful, it's not looking great for an LG ICS release that is 'fully' working. If they pull it off and allow tegra games to run, then I'll be impressed

the official release from LG should be more efficient, and once you remove bloatwares, it should be quite a charm

Hi,
The Google Nexus S also has only 512Mb, and a certain amount of those allocated to GPU (though I don't remember how many), and ICS works like a charm on it... So I think it shouldn't be a problem on our O2X! :-D

hearoy said:
Hi,
The Google Nexus S also has only 512Mb, and a certain amount of those allocated to GPU (though I don't remember how many), and ICS works like a charm on it... So I think it shouldn't be a problem on our O2X! :-D
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It has the same config (128 for the GPU, 384 of available RAM) and works really fine.
Obviously a full gigabyte would be awesome.
Cheers!

Im typing using my optimus one running icss.
NOTE: my phone can only be over clocked till 729mhz.
So for our 2x it will be no prob.
Just need propriety files.
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[PSA] Memory Leak still present in 5.0.2

Not sure if you all know this or not but the memory leak from 5.0 is still present in 5.0.2. Screenshots show it. First is before restart, second is after restart.
Sent from my Nexus 5 with the N5X LRX22G ROM

procitysam said:
Not sure if you all know this or not but the memory leak from 5.0 is still present in 5.0.2. Screenshots show it. First is before restart, second is after restart.
Sent from my Nexus 5 with the N5X LRX22G ROM
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So u conclude this only because less ram is free ? Or the device becomes unusable?

Pretty sure everyone knows, and if you look at a changelog there was no mention of it being fixed: http://aosp.changelog.to/aosp-LRX22C-LRX22G.html
There are commits that fix a memory leak (https://github.com/Lethargy/android_frameworks_base/commit/da2133d046e59b590e51448eda31d710da217d40 and https://github.com/Lethargy/android_frameworks_base/commit/e30ccdbeac2c53b04a389c7ffd8e9d500c93ef30), however I do not experience such memory leak myself so I cannot say if it fixed the issue for others.

Lethargy said:
Pretty sure everyone knows, and if you look at a changelog there was no mention of it being fixed: http://aosp.changelog.to/aosp-LRX22C-LRX22G.html
There are commits that fix a memory leak (https://github.com/Lethargy/android_frameworks_base/commit/da2133d046e59b590e51448eda31d710da217d40 and https://github.com/Lethargy/android_frameworks_base/commit/e30ccdbeac2c53b04a389c7ffd8e9d500c93ef30), however I do not experience such memory leak myself so I cannot say if it fixed the issue for others.
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Just asking regrading the 2 links you posted... Is it the screen off animation causing the memory leak and maybe if you switch off the animation in developer settings will it fix it?

tanjiajun_34 said:
Just asking regrading the 2 links you posted... Is it the screen off animation causing the memory leak and maybe if you switch off the animation in developer settings will it fix it?
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I'm not sure if those commits fix the memory leak that is widely experienced by some users. I only know it fixes "a" memory leak. Again, I did not experience a memory leak myself before merging those commits to my ROM source, so I can't comment on whether it helps or not.
Not sure if turning off animation will make a difference or not, but I don't think it will.

doctor_droid said:
So u conclude this only because less ram is free ? Or the device becomes unusable?
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I conclude this because yes there is less RAM available and it then causes the device to become very laggy and difficult to use.
Sent from my Nexus 5 with the N5X LRX22G ROM

Always got to have one pedantic one. Yes the memory leak still exists.

So is there any chance to fix it?

Uptime: 235:34:19
Stock 5.0.1
Also 3 Day usage with 3 h sot on data (3g) and wifi on but connected only during 22 to 10.

There's a memory leak?
1.3Gb free here, been on stock 5.0.1 for something like a week now. Maybe there's something else eating up your RAM.

Some say it is the Google Experience Launcher...
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This memory leak obviously is not hitting every device, me and 2 of my buds are seeing this issue (system fills up RAM and handling the device becomes a struggle), while a fourth friend is not seeing it on his N5.
3 days ago i ditched the Google Now launcher and returned to Nova, and i think the problem is not that severe anymore, but i have to keep an eye on it for a bit longer to be able to say for sure.

doctor_droid said:
So u conclude this only because less ram is free ? Or the device becomes unusable?
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How is this a memory leak? When more memory is needed, it will open up. Contrary to a long time "windows user" mentality, using memory is good. Especially on android. Why do people think using ram is bad? Using ram helps speed things up.
On a semi side note, after perusing computer forums for many years, I've seen many people get as much RAM as possible then try to get their systems to use as little as possible. It makes no sense. RAM is your friend. Use it.

I haven't had this 'memory leak' ever..even from 5.0.0

Yes using ram speeds things up but only when its being used for things like caching preloading and keeping apps in memory. Even then too little free ram can result in lots of paging when using multiple apps so the system tries to achieve a balance keeping some things in memory while having enough free to not cause paging. In this case people are reporting the opposite that after a few days the phone becomes slow and laggy and memory usage is very high even when they have no apps open so there is no swapping it paging going on. If it was just the is caching things it would just delete them to make room for the current app but that is not the case, the only explanation there fore is that something is leaking memory and consuming it till there is very little left for anything else. Also the os might not be managing memory properly but that seems unlikely as android has always been pretty good at memory management.
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I'm thinking the highly modified ROM/kernel combination might have more of an effect on OPs free RAM than any "memory leak". Stocks working just fine. Still 1.3Gb free after games, forums, screen on/off, been on for three days, etc.
Can't post screenshots with XDA one app?

killersloth said:
I'm thinking the highly modified ROM/kernel combination might have more of an effect on OPs free RAM than any "memory leak". Stocks working just fine. Still 1.3Gb free after games, forums, screen on/off, been on for three days, etc.
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I don't think so.. i have the "laggy phone Problem" with 5.0.0 and 5.0.1 . Always absolutely stock. It's very frustrating...

killersloth said:
I'm thinking the highly modified ROM/kernel combination might have more of an effect on OPs free RAM than any "memory leak". Stocks working just fine. Still 1.3Gb free after games, forums, screen on/off, been on for three days, etc.
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It has nothing to do with amount of free RAM. As shown in my pictures you can see 600 mb free ram, but phone starts shutting down apps. This happens on stock ROM without installing extra apps too by the way. Navigation and google music streaming quickly makes this happen it seems for me.

Duh, most of the changes for 5.0.2 were for Tegra N7.

wolfen69 said:
How is this a memory leak? When more memory is needed, it will open up. Contrary to a long time "windows user" mentality, using memory is good. Especially on android. Why do people think using ram is bad? Using ram helps speed things up.
On a semi side note, after perusing computer forums for many years, I've seen many people get as much RAM as possible then try to get their systems to use as little as possible. It makes no sense. RAM is your friend. Use it.
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It's not the usage of RAM the issue, I think it's more about RAM management, if bigger apps need more RAM let them take it up. But the issues arises when the OS does not release the memory take up by the previous app back into the pool, so then each time we take the same program it takes more and more of the space until other apps cannot access it easily. Presto launcher redraws or apps fc's(or not even running or abruptly stopping the background music playback service) in phones, and whole system freeze or "hang" of the OS in desktop environments.

My phone is a RAM eater?

Hello,
I have my P9 now for a month or so and i really think it is a RAM eater, it sucks up my RAM.
It has 800mb's free ram when all i repeat all applications are closed that is not how it supposed to be i think so.
after i reboot my P9 it has 1.69GB free but after a day or so the same thing happens is this normal or not?
BTW i have the 3GB model EVA-L09

Hmm.. I have the same model too and I seem to drift at around 1.2~1.6 free most of the time unless I'm heavily multi-tasking, do you have any heavy apps that maybe auto-start or anything like that? You could also try factory resetting if it's going that bad.

Naeysayer said:
Hmm.. I have the same model too and I seem to drift at around 1.2~1.6 free most of the time unless I'm heavily multi-tasking, do you have any heavy apps that maybe auto-start or anything like that? You could also try factory resetting if it's going that bad.
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I already did factory reset
It is not much of a problem but just wondering if anyone had the same so thanks mate!

safariking said:
I already did factory reset
It is not much of a problem but just wondering if anyone had the same so thanks mate!
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It's not a problem, its memory management.
There's no point having lots of ram with nothing in it.
Edit..unless you're having performance issues?

Greasedferret said:
It's not a problem, its memory management.
There's no point having lots of ram with nothing in it.
Edit..unless you're having performance issues?
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Ah thanks and sometimes it lags thats all

safariking said:
Ah thanks and sometimes it lags thats all
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If there is lag and you feel it's RAM related, there is a "clean up" function in phone manager. Or just kill some apps from multitask view But most of the time there really are almost no benefits to having free ram on android. RAM performance is not scaling with the amount, like CPUs for example. It's more like, you have enough then you can run the apps, you don't have enough then you can't run it. But on android that's basically a non-issue because it will automatically clear the ram if you don't have enough for a certain task.

I get around 1.5-1.7 when freeing memory. I don't have a lot of apps installed though. It doesn't go down even after a few days withoit restarts unlike my older phones.
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If you are having a lag issue, there is a setting for 'protected applications'... in advanced, battery manager...may have a look there, and un-protect some.

the answer to all questions

Camera is ok
Battery is below average
Lags
Has many bugs
Memory is slow
Sound management is **** (blame android i guess)
2/10
Coming from a Sony Xperia XA I had got for free this phone is so bad I really need to change it asap

most of these are software issues which Xiaomi got to move and fix it ASAP

Mem_0 said:
most of these are software issues which Xiaomi got to move and fix it ASAP
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Which xiaomi won't because they exist since release*

ilgreco112 said:
Which xiaomi won't because they exist since release*
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just be hopeful and no they didst exist on Oreo as far as I know :'3

Well I'm definitely getting the note 6 pro instead

ilgreco112 said:
Camera is ok
Battery is below average
Lags
Has many bugs
Memory is slow
Sound management is **** (blame android i guess)
2/10
Coming from a Sony Xperia XA I had got for free this phone is so bad I really need to change it asap
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i am surprised at this. how is the camera bad. its good enough for the price.
lags. have been using it since the launch and not once has it lagged for me.
memory is slow? what does that even mean

srgudhka said:
i am surprised at this. how is the camera bad. its good enough for the price.
lags. have been using it since the launch and not once has it lagged for me.
memory is slow? what does that even mean
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I said camera is ok, not bad.
it lags everytime and freezes sometimes.
the memory is slow means I feel like I have windows 98 on an old HDD.
anyway I'll buy another phone as soon as I get money

Welll... i barely notice any difference compared with nokia 7 plus, for example, which has the same SoC
hate much?