Hey,
if you take a quick look at the T-mobile forums you'll see that development flourish and is really amazing there- there are more ROMS/Kernels/and development in general then there is on 910F/G/U COMBINED.
Now i'll be referring specifically to the the International/910F veriant-because it has the exact same SoC as the T-mobile version.. and from my quick research it has the exact same hardware as well,fully.(including same supported frequencies, etc). For those of us that are not devs(which I can imagine are the absolut most of the users here/on these forums) - this is extremely annoying , as we all bought the phone and came to XDA to enjoy the amazing things people do with it. I'ts only numbers which doesn't necessarily mean anything but just for a quick comparison, just to see what I'm talking about- the T-mobile ''android development'' forums has as of right now 34 threads and 18,761 posts compared to 21 threads and 3,642 Posts on our ''International'' version.. which is insane bc this its the same phone just only under a carrier brand, and we can't enjoy any of it.
The thing is, what can we do about it? can't there be a way(for both sides- 910F/T-mobile) to flash one another ROMS/Mods? and why does Samsung make an insane amount of models for the same phone? if its modem related then it doesn't make sense as some models have the same frequencies supported.
as I said, I feel cheated, and annoyed. not only there was the annoyance of having two SoCs- exynos and SD and practically splitting the userbase, now there's even more verients under the same SoC and splitting the userbase even more.
I feel like it was a mistake buying a samsung phone.
I agree with you. It's annoying. Some roms from t-mobile note 4 are excellent
Just my opinion, but if it have same hardware, I'm sure you can use them..
My country got the the lowest variants, 910H. Do you able to see development thread for it ? Only 1 custom rom as far as I remember, and the devs already change his phone to other variants.
So we owner of 910H variants just experimenting with 910C based rom because they have identical hardware (same exynos SoC, in fact same modem hardware which samsung said have difference in that area), and it's work, and we also got LTE capabilities which is blocked with official 910H rom.
Once again, if it have 100% identical hardware, I'll say it will work
Trade you my 910w8 for the 910F
Hello everyone. First off, some back history. I have a Note5 N920T that I bought 4 months ago give or take in hopes to sell it and buy a Note7 later. Before that, I owned a Note 3 N900A that I managed, thanks to this page and their geniuses, to flash a few ROMs. I know they could've been many more ROMS but due the locked bootloader I was very limited by it. So I decided that the phone after the N900A should be bootloader unlocked. I knew that one of the main carriers in USA that doesn't have the habit to lock the bootloaders was T-Mobile and they have the same band compatibilities than here in my country, which is Peru,South America. But I want to customize the phone, and a few days ago I tried installing TWRP but I got stuck with a bootloop, even though I did everything that was said on the forum. I've been surfing all over the web and there are many pages saying it is posible, then others saying otherwise. My point here is to get a "One page Answer" where everyone who is interested in flashing a ROM on the N920T can find the best way without the risk of bricking the handset. I want to flash a ROM that is based on the N920I or N920G ROM cause they have more compatible bands with my home carrier "CLARO", basically I'm interested in the bands 7 (700 Mhz) and 28 (2600 Mhz) which here are used for LTE Advanced, T-Mobile ROM won't use them and it only connects to the Band 2 (1900 Mhz). So, it would be great that people post here pages where you can find procedures which can help you to flash ROMs on the N920T other than the T-Mobile's. I think everything I'm saying is possible cause there are no difference between models in the hardware matter, it is not that I'm trying to put a Qualcomm ROM on an Exynos phone as all Note5 are Exynos and hardware specs are the same among all models. I want to thank in advance for your kind help and sorry if I broke any rules from this page. Hopefully my intentions aren't misunderstood.
Ps.- Sorry for the long post also.
I'm looking into buying a new phone very soon, I haven't had a cell phone since like a year ago, that is why all my posts dropped off. Last Time I had my own phone I had the S6 Edge and Note 5. But I'm really kind of tired of not using an international version, since no has cracked the SnapDragon's bootloader locks yet.
I could get a 128GB Note 9 from Straight Talk decently priced right now, but realistically I don't want to buy it if it is only the Unbranded SnapDragon version. I really want a newer Exynos Processor. When I looked online I couldn't find the model number for the version sold from Straight Talk. Maybe I didn't look hard enough. Does any carrier in the US sell the F versions?
You made this a Q&A but didn't post it in the Q&A forum? I'm not an expert but I'm sure the N960F doesn't work in America, don't you use CDMA there? I don't thing the F is compatible with that. I may be wromg, but I'm sure I've read things to that effect.
An Exynos model doesn't have the right bands for Verizon, Sprint, or their MVNOs in America. Exynos models may work on T-Mobile or AT&T, but even then may lack the new bands that enhance 4G coverage.
Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
galdypr said:
Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
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It is not available, and there is a high probability that it never will be available.
For example there is still no root for S9/S9+ in U version.
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It is not available, and there is a high probability that it never will be available.
For example there is still no root for S9/S9+ in U version.
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Thanks for answer. If the USA version It is so complicated to root, then I will buy exynos version. Personally I like the devices that I can have control and rooted.
We are bothered by the questions because it seems like every person creating a new thread asking about it seems like they will get a different answer if they create their own thread about it.
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We are bothered by the questions because it seems like every person creating a new thread asking about it seems like they will get a different answer if they create their own thread about it.
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I asked because I have not seen a thread with that question. But, my apologies if they bother here to.
In my case, and where I work, it has never bothered me that they ask me the same thing, because I like to help people.
Thanks!
As far as I now, S9 and S9+ snapdragon versions are still not rooted.
There is at least 1 guy searching for root but so far, no progress.
So, maybe s845 Note 9 will get root someday but don't have high hopes about that and if root really matter to you, I will advise you to buy another phone.
I strongly advise buying the exynos version now, or buying another device if updates and such will be a big deal. I had the same concerns, this is my first unrooted Android device I am considering purchasing, and I have to make the decision based on what is most probable, root not being an option. Otherwise, you'll be pissed the entire time you have the device that you let yourself fall into the hope trap.
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I will wait few months, as it happened with note 8, that a root for the snapdragon came out, if the root does not come out with note 9 snapdragon, I follow your advice and buy the version with Exynos. Thanks! ?
I do not know, but with so much developer here in XDA and other forums; there must be some way to unlock the bootloader. Or is have to pay for it, or beg of carrier companies??
galdypr said:
I will wait few months, as it happened with note 8, that a root for the snapdragon came out, if the root does not come out with note 9 snapdragon, I follow your advice and buy the version with Exynos. Thanks! [emoji3]
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I asked the OP of that thread a month ago and he confirmed that that root method can not be done on the S9, S9+ or NOTE9, which means that the device will most likely never be rooted, unless Samsung suddenly, randomly, allows for the bootloader to be unlocked.
I upgraded to the Snapdragon Note9 anyway though myself. I found that I didn't really miss root all that much on my Note8 and didn't want my battery on my new phone to only charge to 80% by using SamFAIL, so I just got the non-carrier branded one this time to cut down on some of the bloat. I could've went Exynos, but in the past I'd mainly only used root to put other roms on the device and maybe clear out some space, but the Note9 comes with 128gb internal minimum with the potential of an up to 512gb sd card, which is plenty of space for me to just disable a few apps. Most of the roms too most often didn't have the air command features for the spen(or most of the other functionality that Samsung devices are supposed to have) and the pen is why I buy the Notes in the first place. The ones that did try and incorporate those features(including the Touchwiz roms) always still had other problems too, so I most often found myself going back to stock anyway.
Frankly, it's just been nice having a device where Samsung Pay and everything else just works. I've had the unrootable Snapdragon Note9 for a month now and I love it. It has tons of features that the Note8 didn't have, like an spen that works as a wireless bluetooth remote for your camera, music and other apps, as well as more space, a better battery and more. That's just my take though.
galdypr said:
Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
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Not so much bothered by questions (even if they have been asked 100 times over like this one lol) more so people refuse to use the search function.
If you had of done so you wouldn't have needed to even ask.
Dont be afraid to try and help yourself sometimes, its not that painful.
But yeah as the guys said....never going to happen
I took the advice of several users of the forum, I bought the note version exynos. And I did not break the my Head, Waiting for someone to get Root the Note 9 USA Version
The other note 9 I want to sell it by ebay or by Swppa.
galdypr said:
I took the advice of several users of the forum, I bought the note version exynos. And I did not break the my Head, Waiting for someone to get Root the Note 9 USA Version
The other note 9 I want to sell it by ebay or by Swppa.
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The USA version is never going to see root.
I didn't understand what you said about the exynos other than your selling it? Why?
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I do not know, but with so much developer here in XDA and other forums; there must be some way to unlock the bootloader. Or is have to pay for it, or beg of carrier companies??
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Carrier companies do not have control over bootloader locks. I have tried going through them in the past about this and they have no clue what you are talking about unless you get lucky and get a person that knows about root and even if that does happen they can't and won't help you with it. It has to be done by manufacturers.
galdypr said:
Thanks for answer. If the USA version It is so complicated to root, then I will buy exynos version. Personally I like the devices that I can have control and rooted.
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Have you considered the N9600, international version? It has the SD845 processor (like the U and U1) and root/TWRP are already available. Knox gets tripped, of course, but that only negates Samsung Pay and a couple others.
Just having a little trouble locating units for sale (at good prices) here on mainland US.
Forgetting N960U and N960U1! I bought N960N!! And my problem resolved! Finally I got root!! ?
q2n said:
Have you considered the N9600, international version? It has the SD845 processor (like the U and U1) and root/TWRP are already available. Knox gets tripped, of course, but that only negates Samsung Pay and a couple others.
Just having a little trouble locating units for sale (at good prices) here on mainland US.
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Just to figure out my info on versions is correct... I thought N9600 (with Snapdragon) is the Hong Kong version (i.e. not "international" or "global"), and N960F (with Exynos) is for "global"/europe (although it seems to have different band lists for UK). (I'm not considering rootability etc., just the target market / naming.)
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Just to figure out my info on versions is correct... I thought N9600 (with Snapdragon) is the Hong Kong version (i.e. not "international" or "global"), and N960F (with Exynos) is for "global"/europe (although it seems to have different band lists for UK). (I'm not considering rootability etc., just the target market / naming.)
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So the 960F model has different radio / bands for UK market compared to the 960F sold in mainland Europe? I doubt it.
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Limeybastard said:
So the 960F model has different radio / bands for UK market compared to the 960F sold in mainland Europe? I doubt it.
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Personally, I have no idea. I read it on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
I found another list (much shorter one) that does not have separate entry for UK. Maybe the longer list simply lists bands that are active in the region (e.g. if there are bands in use in UK that aren't used elsewhere in europe even if the phone would support them).
Not relevant to this topic (rooting U/U1), though, I just noted it for the peculiarity of seeing that difference for the same model code.
6thtry said:
Personally, I have no idea. I read it on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
I found another list (much shorter one) that does not have separate entry for UK. Maybe the longer list simply lists bands that are active in the region (e.g. if there are bands in use in UK that aren't used elsewhere in europe even if the phone would support them).
Not relevant to this topic (rooting U/U1), though, I just noted it for the peculiarity of seeing that difference for the same model code.
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Personally how I verify bands used it to go to samsungs website for that country to check specs for a particular model number.
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Just wondering if there is a downside to using the 960F model in the U.S. I want root, so that's why i'm asking. By the way, i'm with T-Mobile. Thanks.
grunt0300 said:
Just wondering if there is a downside to using the 960F model in the U.S. I want root, so that's why i'm asking. By the way, i'm with T-Mobile. Thanks.
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You'll be missing some frequencies so that you won't have service in some areas where the US Tmobile phones would. But you'll never really know for sure, in some cases, if spotty service is due to phone incompatibility or just poor service, unless you can compare to a compatible phone. Also, you won't be able to change to a Tmobile CSC designed for the US, because there isn't one for the Exynos variant, which means you won't have Tmobile features like wifi calling, VoLTE, etc.
But you'll have root.
The reason I say all that is because I used the Exynos variant of the S7 on Tmobile for three years, and went through all those exact issues and more, such as missing calls, that went straight to voicemail, even while at home where I had LTE that would just drop off at times, and I pulled my hair out trying to fix the problem with better apn settings.
But I bought the Exynos for the 8 processors. That was dumb.
These days, the Note9 has 8 processors for both Exynos and Snapdragon, but the Snapdragon variant has a better GPU and better battery efficiency.
The Note9 SM-N960U1 (Snapdragon) US unbranded version is the nicest phone for the US market, and you get wifi-calling and VoLTE on Tmobile.
But you don't get root.
And this is the first phone with an OS so good, I don't want root.
Good luck!
gruuvin said:
You'll be missing some frequencies so that you won't have service in some areas where the US Tmobile phones would. But you'll never really know for sure, in some cases, if spotty service is due to phone incompatibility or just poor service, unless you can compare to a compatible phone. Also, you won't be able to change to a Tmobile CSC designed for the US, because there isn't one for the Exynos variant, which means you won't have Tmobile features like wifi calling, VoLTE, etc.
But you'll have root.
The reason I say all that is because I used the Exynos variant of the S7 on Tmobile for three years, and went through all those exact issues and more, such as missing calls, that went straight to voicemail, even while at home where I had LTE that would just drop off at times, and I pulled my hair out trying to fix the problem with better apn settings.
But I bought the Exynos for the 8 processors. That was dumb.
These days, the Note9 has 8 processors for both Exynos and Snapdragon, but the Snapdragon variant has a better GPU and better battery efficiency.
The Note9 SM-N960U1 (Snapdragon) US unbranded version is the nicest phone for the US market, and you get wifi-calling and VoLTE on Tmobile.
But you don't get root.
And this is the first phone with an OS so good, I don't want root.
Good luck!
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Thanks. I think the downside outweighs the upside. For me, rooting is fun, but not that much fun. Maybe the OnePlus 6 would be a better buy, with less downside.