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im going to be getting 2 8125s, looking around some web pages people are upgrading there phones software, why? is the one the phone comes with that bad?
Different systems offer different things. If you have a NEED for one of those things, you may want to consider it. If you take a look around you might also notice that there are more than a couple people who had no idea what they were doing but didn't let that stop them and trashed their phone. It's a really good idea to read, read and then read some more before putting a new system on the device. Know what you're getting into and know what the potential problems are and what you can do about them. Is your device a G3 or a G4? Better know or there's a 50/50 chance of turning your device into an expensive paperweight. More, your warrantee disappeared the moment you started the process. This isn't to say changing the system is fraught with danger, it can be a smooth process if you know what you're doing and follow the directions. But personally, I break into a sweat every time I do it and, not to take away from the guys that create them but I've decided that these custom ROMs just aren't worth it so I stick to the operator ROMs. They've gotten quite good lately, they're operator supported and they don't void your warrantee.
thats what im thinking, being the phone has been out for a while, all the bugs should be worked out.
I upgraded mostly for the better stability. After the 2.17 rom upgrade I really haven't noticed much better speed. But its alot better then when I first got the system.
First of all let me say that is the best n00b post ever from what i have seen!!! you didnt ask a question that has been covered a million times!!!
different strokes for different folks... if you get yours and your happy with its performance and loaded software then there is no need to upgrade... I think most of us have gone for performance and functionality... we were/are happy with the phone overall, but just want to squeeze just a little more out of it then research your options...
just like the old saying, if its not broke then dont fix it.. if your happy, then dont change it... changing roms on these can lead to headaches if your not experienced
I'm new to the PPC world, my 8125 gets here today or tomorrow and I've been looking into programs and all that I can do to optimize my experience with it. But given I don't have the phone yet and am a total newb regarding this, I was wondering, what are the first things I need to do to improve my PPC and get software/freeware onto it? Like can I just download the apps onto the device or storage card and install them or is there something I overlooked? Just tryna figure out what to do and what NOT to do... an overall list of must-have apps (freeware or not) would be nice to have too if someone's kind enough.
Anyways, thanks a lot and I'm pretty hyped about getting the phone and playing around with it
This could be a starting point, pretty comprehensive and well organised:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/applications/128278-best-pocket-pc-freeware-starting-point.html
Rest you will figure out once you start using it. All the best.
cool, thanks for the help but i dont just want an app list, i want to know like what are the first things you should do to get ready for smooth operation, like (i still havent got this) wt is a/the ROM? is it something that doesnt come with the ppc and i gotta get it to be able to use something else? or does a stock one come with the ppc and im supposed to get a better one? stuff like that, cuz im like TOTALLY new to ppc, like i'll probably figure out most the stuff but I want to be safe first
I think you have been reading a lot about ROMS on this forum! Well ROM is nothing but the basic operating system on which the PPC runs most of the times these are customised by the operator you buy the phone from. So basic settings are there like GPRS, MMS, Homepage etc. You really don't need to worry about ROMs right now, first get the phone, play around, install 3rd party softwares and slowly you will figure out what is what. Keep reading the threads here, you will find a lot of knowledge from Gurus, but you gotta to be patient and read as much as you can. Because anything you try with ROM can be dangerous for the phone. You could even 'brick' it. You could even lose your warranty. So right now after you get the phone just toy around and have fun, forget ROM right now. And don't worry your phone is ready to run smoothly as it is.
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I think you have been reading a lot about ROMS on this forum! Well ROM is nothing but the basic operating system on which the PPC runs most of the times these are customised by the operator you buy the phone from. So basic settings are there like GPRS, MMS, Homepage etc. You really don't need to worry about ROMs right now, first get the phone, play around, install 3rd party softwares and slowly you will figure out what is what. Keep reading the threads here, you will find a lot of knowledge from Gurus, but you gotta to be patient and read as much as you can. Because anything you try with ROM can be dangerous for the phone. You could even 'brick' it. You could even lose your warranty. So right now after you get the phone just toy around and have fun, forget ROM right now. And don't worry your phone is ready to run smoothly as it is.
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cool thats wt i wanted to know and yh i was reading about ROM and about unlocking and stuff and i dunno if that is necessary or recommended, but if u say its ready to run as it is thats fine cuz i just wanna have it do wt it can do, and have a few good customizations/apps that make life easier .. well i'll continue to read though after i get the phone
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I think you have been reading a lot about ROMS on this forum! Well ROM is nothing but the basic operating system on which the PPC runs most of the times these are customised by the operator you buy the phone from. So basic settings are there like GPRS, MMS, Homepage etc. You really don't need to worry about ROMs right now, first get the phone, play around, install 3rd party softwares and slowly you will figure out what is what. Keep reading the threads here, you will find a lot of knowledge from Gurus, but you gotta to be patient and read as much as you can. Because anything you try with ROM can be dangerous for the phone. You could even 'brick' it. You could even lose your warranty. So right now after you get the phone just toy around and have fun, forget ROM right now. And don't worry your phone is ready to run smoothly as it is.
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YUP !!!
Very wise advise by Kull,the phone already comes with pre-installed OS (Rom) by the operator,you don't have to install it separately,it may be installed with the latest OS wm6,but even if it comes with a wm5 OS version Rom ,just use and enjoy it,get a grip of all the functions,it's hell of a device.
The Roms discussed here are mainly upgrades to wm6,which was launched later by Microsoft and the phones earlier came with wm5 Roms,therefore,people like to upgrade to wm6.It requires some procedures to unlock and upgrade with a risk of getting it Bricked,so it;s not advisable for you to consider it,as yet.ok
And ,of course, CONGRATS !!!
yh id rather stick with the OS it comes with for now but i was just wondering if i needed to upgrade anything to get some nice apps on it but nvm thnx a lot i think i might be gettin it today hopefully
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
please read before you bother to post
this is asked all the time....
you need to take the time to read and make up your own mind
i am more than happy with my diamond
welcome to the forum
Same here happy as a dog with my Jewel.
I believe all my fellow Forum members are 100% happy of the powerful Jewel they own.
Trust us you wont be disappointed specially after a visit to the kitchen
Im happy with mine coming from a nokia n95, ok the diamond could do with a flash and a better battery.
Other than that its all good....
There are loads of posts about this dotted over the forum, granted they are a bit of a trek to find.
It all depends on what you want to use the phone for. For my needs its great. Plays music, cameras ok, the VGA screen is really really nice and I do actually like TouchFlo 3D.
Good luck with the searching, and hope you find the answers to help you decide.
And I have to say the Diamond is the best phone ive owned, and ive had a lot of mobiles and pdas in the past. Its mainly thanks to this forum for that. So many dedicated people. Thanks xda!
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
Jon12345 said:
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Well im sure it would better than the current SE phone. Heres some of the reasons why i love my diamond.
1. So many app / utils / tweaks available and very cheap to buy extra programs for it. (donations to developers are all good to!)
2. Activesyncing my phone to my pc, always been an easy task with Windows Mobile.
3. Being able to control my phone using my PC (MyMobiler - excellent little program)
4. The Small size of the phone, it really is very small! Easy to use one handed
5. Screen Quality - VGA, you wonder how you coped before!
6. Easy to transfer info to and from the phone - Activesync or Removable Drive (USB Flash drive)
7. GPS - Tomtom on your mobile, excellent! Works very well
8. 4GB Storage - Plenty of space for what i need.
There are tons more! Post would be the longest on here if i kept on talking! hehe!
Here's my 2 cents. Got my Diamond yesterday, loved it, it look so wonderful. Just bear in mind that I am coming from a Trinity with a fast ROM.
I started to play around with the phone for awhile and took me back to when Winduhs released that beta testing Vista. It looked nice and pretty but it was a pain to use after you've been using XP for a while.
Regardless of what i just said, i love the Diamond and I might keep it. It makes my Trinity looks like a monster but it lags too much as it is.
If support and constant updates/improvements is what you're looking for, you've found the right phone. This forum is above and beyond any community I've ever seen when it comes to tweaks, ROMs, and any sort of improvement you could possibly make to your device. Just make sure to read all directions and pay attention closely, a lot of these things can turn your beautiful Diamond into a $700 brick.
Mainly because it's a tool which simplifies my work/life...not a mere toy to be shown on saturday evening (any reference is casual )
But in any case those are all personal opinions, I think you should make your own considerations and evalutions of a product before to buy that or another.
Be a subject talking about an object, not viceversa
Got mine last Thursday on Vodafone... it was nice, but a little laggy, then I updated it with a cooked ROM (swiftBL I think it was) and its a little beast now! Best phone ever!
Trying to get TomTom 7 on it at the mo.
For my first WinMo (coming from a Motorola KRZR) its just superb! And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
Get one and never look back!
Please don't be a fanboy!
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And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
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Someone who reads the directions and finds it easy to do, without asking 500 times how to flash a ROM?
Edited to maintain my reputation of not being gay. Hah.
Jon12345 said:
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
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If you have no problem to spend some extra money in missed calls, in general is a good toy.
THERE IS A UNSOLVED BUG WITH THE PHONE ON SCEEN BUTTONS. Every time when you receive a call and put it out of the pouch you answer or loose the call automatically. This is a bull****.
Just use the Diamond tweak tool thingy and I can see vast improvements already, you guys don't mess around huh? I want my diamond to perform, i have a bad habit of using my phone while driving, which is a bit hard to do on a touchscreen. I think my Diamond is almost there.
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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Just be cautious in whatever you do, and make sure you don't brick it... Whatever you do, as long as it's done correctly, can be reversed later on. Original SPL, original ROM, 100% warranty okay. But hey, if you're happy with the performance now, leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Thanks for the heads up, I figured that if everyone is trying to get a diamond ROM why should I do anything, except for tweaking it of course.
I was surprised to see that the ROM I have on my Trinity isn't the same as the real thing. It works, and works well and that is all that matters.
I Wanna know what are the advantages ,pros and cons about the 1-click-rooting (flashrec-1.1.2-20090909) system and the old way of rooting ?
im confuse which one is better in your point of view and why?
In my opinion, the one-click method is really easy to do. The old method is very time consuming, but if you follow it exactly to the t then I would go with the old method for rooting, because you get to learn a lot of things about the phone and how the operating system works. It just depends on the person I guess. If you are comfortable with the old method you can do it, or if you think you can handle the old method go for it.
Basically...
Pros of 1 click: saves time, noob friendly, and good if your just trying to get a rooted phone and not really take the g1 as something you want to look more into.
Cons: none
Pros of old: you learn a lot more about the phone and roms and stuff
Cons: takes kinda long, complex parts
AND id just go with 1 click if your not on a data plan!
Never used the 1 click method so can't comment on that one. As far as the old method, you will become far more familiar with the whole flashing process and the updating of roms and themes will be much easier. I didn't really think it took all that long. Download all of your files and read, read, and reread the directions. Watch youtube videos, whatever you need to do to get it right.
I Have done both
I've done it both way i really love the old way of rooting the the g1 but it is a lil complicated i didn't really know the pros and the cons about it but as i can see its the same heh thx for everything
Gday guys, long time lurker and user of lots of roms, rarely ask questions as i just try and work stuff out.
However i need some help.
My wife and I use s10s, i want to do basically this:
Fully stock rom, with bloatware removed(all samsung crap etc) and have youtube vanced, and have it show as a stock rom to the app store, so i can use apps that require a non modded rom.
Is this possible, and if so could someone point me in the right direction, im not a pro, but i do ok installing the roms etc, ill try not to bother anyone.
If possible, android 11.
Thanks in advance guys.
Cheers.
You need to be clear on which version of the S10 you have (Snapdragon or Exynos) as the processes are very different. In the future, I'd rrecommend posting this in your subject, as the two are very different.
For that matter, I'd recommend posting the model number (eg SM-G975U is my phone) as this identifies it as well. "U" means Unlocked, USA, Snapdragon, S10-plus, in my case... another common variant is the "F version which is Exynos. I don't know as much about those.
That said, if you have a U/snapdragon, to root you have to be on an older bootloader (build number, 5th digit from the end, tells you BL version... 4 is the last one that can be unlocked right now). If you've been updating, then you're likely at 6, like I am... in which case there is no unlock/root available today.
Personally, I don't see the big deal about "debloating"... it makes no sense to me and in many cases I see people break their phones by doing this anyway. If you don't want to use the Samsung app(s), don't use it... not a big deal. I believe there may be ADB methods that can disable them as well, but I don't get the obsession over this.. As for YT vanced, if it's an APK, can't it just be side-loaded?
My apologies, G973F.
The debloating helps, im means there is heaps of crap that on a stock rom you cant turn off, thats not even there.
Like the aroma installer style where you pick what is and isnt included.
I like my phones like my PC's, running lean and fast.
Its a personal preference.
I am the same way - I prefer lean as well, however from what I've seen, these extra apps don't do anything to add "load" to Android. Modern OSes don't have the problems of older ones, where such things mattered. That's my point... all this effort to "debloat" doesn't seem to accomplish much, and can actually break things. When I compare my SOT with others who have "debloated" I see no differences... but some people are just obsessed with that.
Again, not calling you or anyone out... it's a preference. But I think people need to forget about that since we are unable to root and such anyway. Honestly, this is my first non-rooted phone in a long time, and I don't miss root at all...