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Hey XDA - I've been a browser forever, but I just signed up;
because I am in diiiiiiiiire need of some help.
I'm really sorry this has to be my first thread.
I promise I'm not a troll, and I promise I'll contribute as
much as I possibly can!
I have a situation I am in -
I currently have a Nexus One, on T-Mobile U.S.
It's completely stock, no hacks or roots, mods or anything.
To make a long story short - I'll be switching phones and providers soon (Evo), but I would like to give this phone to my girlfriend, who happens to live in the United Kingdom. She's on the O2 network, and has all the data/plan stuff covered already, I just need to get the phone working for her when she pops in her SIM card.
From what I've gathered, it seems like the Nexus One WILL work on O2 with both 2G and 3G speeds, if this is true; can someone verify?
"O2 use 2100MHz for 3G and 900/1800MHz for GSM (2G - Voice/GPRS).
The Nexus One supports these frequencies for both services."
Also, I've never unlocked, or rooted a phone before. This phone would NEED to be unlocked for her to be able to use it, right? Is it possible to unlock a phone without rooting it? I really am new to all of this. She's not a power user, so I'd like her to keep the stock build and get all the updates. Is that possible? To unlock the phone and keep everything stocked?
Can someone maybe help with that? Or should I just follow one of those guides to "unlock and flash the rom" guides that I've found all over the internet? I really want to just keep everything stock for her, with the exception of the phone being unlocked.
Whatever happens, will the Android market still be working for her?
Does anyone know how Google Maps would work on the phone for her, in the UK?
I'm basically in love with the girl, and we're trying to do everything we can to make the best of a long distance relationship. The main reason I want her to have an android phone (mine) is for her to be able to use Fring with me, and Google Chat - so I'd really hope those apps worked in the UK.
Any help on unlocking this bad boy is much appreciated.
Thank you XDA,
You guys are awesome - and I have all the respect in the world for you.
Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
Siggi303 said:
Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
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That actually does help a lot - but,
did you purchase the unlocked Nexus from Google?
I can't confirm, but I've heard that both are different,
the T-Mobile version being sim locked.
I also have the APN settings from O2 U.K already
- I'm aware of that part.
Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
dazzawright said:
Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
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Was yours purchased unlocked though?
Thank you
Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
I am pretty sure that although Google were selling the Nexus with a T-Mobile option there are no sim- or netlocked Nexus Ones - simply for the fact that Google did not want that. That is also how Vodafone handles the Nexus distribution here in germany: There is an option for a bundle with a contract and the Nexus you get with it is not sim- or netlocked.
Also, to answer another question of you: Yes, your gf will be able to use all functions (market, maps, etc.) without any rooting-action necessary.
lorin.bute said:
Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
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That was a genius suggestion.
Popped in a co-workers ATT sim, and it worked
just fine with absolutely zero issues. Thank you!
AHHH I am so relieved. DDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
Siggi : Thank you also for that bit of information, you guys really just took a huge weight off my chest.
1. It will be fully functional on the provider you specified.
2. There is no such thing as SIM-locked Nexus.
3. It's fun using Fring video to show people places.
just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
zachthemaster said:
just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
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Exactly.
I also got a Nexus One from Google US and it's working without any problems in germany.
Just remember, even though your Nexus One is unlocked, if you are on contract with T-Mobile and you cancel early, you will have to pay an ETF.
Hello,
I live on a US Military base in Germany, and know that the only carrier of the Nexus One here is Vodafone, and without a contract it costs €489,99, which is like $610, a lot more than the $529 you pay in America. But since I can get free/cheaper shipping to my APO address, I am wondering if I can buy a $529 Nexus One from a carrier in America like AT&T and just use my own sim card in it. Thanks.
Stevv said:
Hello,
I live on a US Military base in Germany, and know that the only carrier of the Nexus One here is Vodafone, and without a contract it costs €489,99, which is like $610, a lot more than the $529 you pay in America. But since I can get free/cheaper shipping to my APO address, I am wondering if I can buy a $529 Nexus One from a carrier in America like AT&T and just use my own sim card in it. Thanks.
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The $529 Nexus One you get in the US would come directly from Google, not from a carrier. Both variants of the phone will get you 3G on all carriers in Germany and most in the majority of Europe since they both have UMTS 2100. If you have any preference for which carrier to use it on when you're back in the US, you could make a decision based on that.
cmstlist said:
The $529 Nexus One you get in the US would come directly from Google, not from a carrier. Both variants of the phone will get you 3G on all carriers in Germany and most in the majority of Europe since they both have UMTS 2100. If you have any preference for which carrier to use it on when you're back in the US, you could make a decision based on that.
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tl; dr; -> Yes.
so, basically, yes, I can get the $529 one from Google and use it in Europe, using the SIM card I already have?
Correct. It's better to do that as you don't have to wait for Voda to **** about with the firmware.
Stevv said:
so, basically, yes, I can get the $529 one from Google and use it in Europe, using the SIM card I already have?
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Yes, and as cmstlist said, the decision of T-Mo vs ATnT would mainly depend on your preference of carrier back in the US, if at all.
Rusty! said:
Correct. It's better to do that as you don't have to wait for Voda to **** about with the firmware.
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AFAIK, Voda does not "**** about" with firmwares. Google rolls updates. Google has voluntarily decided to delay the European updates, to customise the stuff I guess.
rohandhruva said:
AFAIK, Voda does not "**** about" with firmwares. Google rolls updates. Google has voluntarily decided to delay the European updates, to customise the stuff I guess.
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Well. Vodafone wants to charge for tethering, so I guess they need some "add ons".
I thought the whole point of Nexus One was to make updates carrier-independent. Even now, the N1 sold by Vodafone is not branded anywhere right?
Well maybe it's not Voda dicking about, but for no apparent reason, someone somewhere is.
My US TMo handset needed exactly nothing doing to it to run refectly on Vodafone UK, yet apparently 2.2 (which of course runs fine) needs changes to work. Hmmmm.
Rusty! said:
Well maybe it's not Voda dicking about, but for no apparent reason, someone somewhere is.
My US TMo handset needed exactly nothing doing to it to run refectly on Vodafone UK, yet apparently 2.2 (which of course runs fine) needs changes to work. Hmmmm.
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There's no "need" for changes, emergency calls and APNs are the official reason. But that's a load since everything works fine on Kang-o-rama for me.
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My handset originally came with EPF21B. The changes are not in the way the phone or the hardware works, they are cosmetic changes which are Europe-specific. For example the spellings, the date format etc. Customising those is probably what's causing the delay.
T-MO USA version has the frequencies you are looking for to use it in Europe.
Well mine has the correct UK spellings, correct date and time format. Probably something to do with setting the language to English (UK) more than any customistion being done.
rohandhruva said:
My handset originally came with EPF21B. The changes are not in the way the phone or the hardware works, they are cosmetic changes which are Europe-specific. For example the spellings, the date format etc. Customising those is probably what's causing the delay.
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No, it's not. It's about adding an accounting technique for the sharing of mobile internet. The locale didn't change and things like voice search or turn by turn navigation are added in application updates.
There's no reason to delay the OTA other than adding provider crap ware.
N1 in Europe
I'm in the Navy stationed in Greece and I bought my N1 in Jan. before moving here. I use a local sim with a 3G data plan and have no issues. The only thing is You won't be able to purchase apps unless you have an American sim. It's annoying to have to switch sims to update paid apps but that is the only problem I ran into. If you bought one on a plan from T Mobile the you'll be responsible for that bill. I would go the unlocked route or see if there are any for sale used.
You can use MarketAccess to install/update the protected apps without changing sims - http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess
glwinkler said:
I'm in the Navy stationed in Greece and I bought my N1 in Jan. before moving here. I use a local sim with a 3G data plan and have no issues. The only thing is You won't be able to purchase apps unless you have an American sim. It's annoying to have to switch sims to update paid apps but that is the only problem I ran into. If you bought one on a plan from T Mobile the you'll be responsible for that bill. I would go the unlocked route or see if there are any for sale used.
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So, do you have to pay a lot for internet access while you are buying apps using your American sim?
Or can you not use Wi-fi to download apps?
Yes, you can use WiFi but afaik you still need that US SIM card inserted.
Also, check your PM
hi,
will my euro galaxy s work in japan (where I am going on vacation)?
Thanks,
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It will work (roaming) but it probably will not work with a japanese sim card
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Like zombrex said.
It will work, but I had problems calling and receiving calls from japanese cell phones. Apart from that everything worked for me.
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3rd confirmation. I could use roaming in Japan. The European model is identical to the international model.
Just got back from holidaying in Japan. I can confirm that the Galaxy was fine there although I didnt make any calls (expensive!), mostly used data services to retrieve and send emails using UK sim card. Used wi-fi points and skype/tango where possible.
Thank you guys for the info, I'm glad my beloved galaxy will work in
Japan.
Are prepaid data or/and voice sim cards available in .jp to avoid
horrendous roaming charges?
What is the wifi hotspot situation in hotels and cities in general? Are
they mostly free?
I think there are no prepaid cards in japan like you know them.
Can't remember using free wifi hotspots except in the hotel. But once there was a free hotspot in a club. That was the only one i found^^
Hi !
I have the same kind of question.
I will go in Japan for 1 year, and as I saw that they sell Galaxy S in Japan, I was wondering if I could use my Galaxy S with a Japanese Sim card.
Do I need a Japanese rom ? Or any configuration ?
Thanks
Up !
No one can help me ?
If your phone is unlocked you'll be able to use a japanese sim
it wordks,japan user the different sim card size(smaller),you can buy the sim card cover to fix it.
Thank you DrFredPhD and eim886 !
The Rom doesn't matter ?
eim886 said:
it wordks,japan user the different sim card size(smaller),you can buy the sim card cover to fix it.
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I looked for a sim card cover, but I only found a sim card adapter for micro-sim.
Where could I find a sim card adapter to use a japanese sim card on my phone ?
EDIT :
I found there is only 3 sizes for sim card : standard, mini-sim, and micro-sim.
But which one is used in Japan ?
hey trynium, did you find an answer to your question?
I have a North American version (Canada Bell) i9000 and really don't want to buy a new phone when I have a perfectly good one right here. Would the sim adapter work? Which network did you use and how did you go about it?
I was wondering if the North American version phone can run on Japan's network... if anybody out there could help, it'd be much appreciated
immopengu said:
hey trynium, did you find an answer to your question?
I have a North American version (Canada Bell) i9000 and really don't want to buy a new phone when I have a perfectly good one right here. Would the sim adapter work? Which network did you use and how did you go about it?
I was wondering if the North American version phone can run on Japan's network... if anybody out there could help, it'd be much appreciated
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I went in Japan later than I expected.
I took a prepaid phone, so I could not really test with my SGS (no internet connection, lot of restrictions... for prepaid phone).
But the good point was that the sim card was a standard one. So sim adapter seems useless in this case.
The harder in Japan, is to buy a sim card without a phone. From what I know, there is not much problem than that !
By the way, sorry for the (very) late answer...
My samsung galaxy II is constantly losing network but when I put my SIM into my old phone it works fine. I've tried everything I could find on here i.e roooting, upgrading to ICS but have had no luck.
I bought (well I paid out his contract) the phone from a friend who moved overseas and he was on a different network (Optus) and I'm on Vodafone but my SIM works (just not all the time! :crying so I don't know if that has anything to do with it! Anyways I can't take it back to Optus because I wasn't their client to begin with and Vodafone wont help so I'd really appreciate any help so I can stop missing important calls!! Thanks in advance!
Safixia said:
My samsung galaxy II is constantly losing network but when I put my SIM into my old phone it works fine. I've tried everything I could find on here i.e roooting, upgrading to ICS but have had no luck.
I bought (well I paid out his contract) the phone from a friend who moved overseas and he was on a different network (Optus) and I'm on Vodafone but my SIM works (just not all the time! :crying so I don't know if that has anything to do with it! Anyways I can't take it back to Optus because I wasn't their client to begin with and Vodafone wont help so I'd really appreciate any help so I can stop missing important calls!! Thanks in advance!
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Hey all,
Hope this is in the right place. Saw a few similar questions, but nothing exactly like what I was looking for.
I currently have a VZW Galaxy Nexus, rooted, running Shiny ROM with Xposed and GravityBox. Thinking about dumping VZW and going to a Moto X on AT&T or TMO, both prepaid. Question is, which carrier's phone would I be able to use outside the US? I'll be going to Europe this summer and would like to purchase a local SIM in Europe and use it there, instead of paying roaming fees on AT&T or TMO.
According to Wikipedia (can't post link) and what I've read on here, the TMO version is SIM unlocked. So this means it will work on all GSM carriers, right? In the US, that would be AT&T (if TMO doesn't have good signal where I live), and when I travel, that means I can use a local SIM, correct?
Thanks in advance, any help is appreciated!
lmm5247 said:
Hey all,
Hope this is in the right place. Saw a few similar questions, but nothing exactly like what I was looking for.
I currently have a VZW Galaxy Nexus, rooted, running Shiny ROM with Xposed and GravityBox. Thinking about dumping VZW and going to a Moto X on AT&T or TMO, both prepaid. Question is, which carrier's phone would I be able to use outside the US? I'll be going to Europe this summer and would like to purchase a local SIM in Europe and use it there, instead of paying roaming fees on AT&T or TMO.
According to Wikipedia (can't post link) and what I've read on here, the TMO version is SIM unlocked. So this means it will work on all GSM carriers, right? In the US, that would be AT&T (if TMO doesn't have good signal where I live), and when I travel, that means I can use a local SIM, correct?
Thanks in advance, any help is appreciated!
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Yep, that's correct. T-mo is SIM unlocked. I use mine with AT&T actually too. It should work abroad with no trouble other than tracking down a local nano sim or cutting one down.
If however you want to use LTE abroad I don't think the bands in the T-Mobile version match those used in Europe. HSPA+ should work fine though.
From my experience when traveling abroad a prepaid SIM w/ LTE was way more expensive than something I wanted just for being able to gchat home and look up directions on gmaps so it was a moot point.
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Yep, that's correct. T-mo is SIM unlocked. I use mine with AT&T actually too. It should work abroad with no trouble other than tracking down a local nano sim or cutting one down.
If however you want to use LTE abroad I don't think the bands in the T-Mobile version match those used in Europe. HSPA+ should work fine though.
From my experience when traveling abroad a prepaid SIM w/ LTE was way more expensive than something I wanted just for being able to gchat home and look up directions on gmaps so it was a moot point.
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Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! I figured LTE wouldn't work in Europe, I was fine with settling for HSPA+ or 3G.
Found a thread here explaining the differences between AT&T, TMO, and Dev Edition. From what I can see, the TMO edition is more flexible than the AT&T edition. Only difference compared to Dev Edition is that unlocking the bootloader on TMO voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466
lmm5247 said:
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! I figured LTE wouldn't work in Europe, I was fine with settling for HSPA+ or 3G.
Found a thread here explaining the differences between AT&T, TMO, and Dev Edition. From what I can see, the TMO edition is more flexible than the AT&T edition. Only difference compared to Dev Edition is that unlocking the bootloader on TMO voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466
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LTE works in Europe although is not yet as widely spreaded as in the USA. But you'll be fine with 3G which is fast enough and most countries are well covered with that network. More important issue is roaming if you are planning to visit different countries. You must switch between different operators and even using service from the same operator in different states ( e.g. T-mobile) imply roaming charges. In my opinion the best solution is using local sim with best data plan and voip for calling in every country. If you don't want to switch sim cards, you may find the best roaming solution with prepaid Vodafone Italy. You can buy its clone online (http://www.motorhomewifi.com/product/europa-sim-roaming-data-sim-card/) and refill it in any Vodafone shop around Europe.