Isthere difference between the snapdragon and exynos version in terms of connectivity - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

I have the dual sim exynos version.
Wifi is good but mobile network connectivity, whilst okay, isn't top of the line.
Looking at reviews online, they all seem to talk about the snapdragon version. I have no idea if those reviews applies to the exynos version.
When comparing my phone to my friend who has Oneplus 6. We get similar signals but he gets higher speed and latency is also lower. I hover around 60 mbps as maximum connection speed, he hovers well over 100 mbps.
The worst thing about this, is that when we're in oversubscribed area which is common, he gets through just fine. I cannot. Even if I put my phone on airplane mode then back to normal, I still can't get good connection.
We're on the same plan (EE UK, 4GEE max plan).

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AT&T - Edge faster then 3G?

Apparently, edge is faster then 3G compared to my old iPhone 3G. When I put them side by side and loaded a page on the Nexus with Edge, and iPhone with 3G, the Nexus loaded significantly faster.
Does it have a better modem? Does the CPU and RAM have something to do with it?
If you're comparing to an iPhone 3G, and not a 3GS, the Nexus One is able to render pages faster, under equal network conditions.
Though - with 3G performing to reasonable levels, the iPhone 3G should at least be putting out comparable if not better page loads than the Nexus One on EDGE.
Having said this, AT&T 3G is overloaded in some areas, and can sometimes be even slower than EDGE in data speeds...
So what's the conclusion here?
- AT&T EDGE is very solid, and varies less in data speeds while 3G can be spotty with slow speeds (though this is very dependent on your area)
- The Nexus One has the CPU power to render pages faster
All that said, I'm not too surprised of your observation. To get some more data, perhaps you should install the speedtest.net app on both phones, and see how you do on each? This will show relative data speed rates, and reveal whether 3G is actually congested in your area.

should i go with at&t or stick with tmobile

Is it just me or does tmobile have the worst reception
my wife's Verizon phone can be used anywhere
Now I have the option to go with at&t ..is at&t any better
I have a hd7 with a rom
To tell you the true this is up to you. In my opinion I stay with T-Mobile because I get more coverage and reception than AT&T. Check with your provider and check how much coverage you have were you are located. I hope this helps.
On my Galaxy S II I average about 8 mbps, sometimes going up to 18 mbps. However, the Galaxy is one of only 2 phones (the other is the HTC Amaze) that can take full advantage of T-Mobile's fast network, and I live in a strong TMo coverage area. My HD7, with it's older radio, averages 2 - 3 mbps - which i still not bad.
Of course, none of that matters if T-Mobile's service isn't where you are. You are best off with a phone that can tap into the strongest network in the places you'll be in. Take a look at the Root Wireless coverage map on CNET. This is based on actual speeds people have achieved using their testing app. Maybe the data here will help you make your decision.
Look into simple mobile. $40 unlimited everything for my hd7. Runs on tmo network but for $40..switched months ago and haven't looked back. Though tmo in my area is pretty good. 4 bars H pretty much everywhere I go..
My understanding is that Simple Mobile caps 3G speeds at a fairly low number - 150-200k or so.

Data speed on H - not as fast as it should be???

So I just bought a galaxy skyrocket for my wife. I'm in an LTE area. It is TEN TIMES FASTER on the skyrocket than the Note. Literally 10x. Used SpeedTest. Averaged 12800 download and 12200 upload. That's faster than my wifi. My note gets 1380 download and 380 upload. Horrendous!
I couldn't believe it. Now I realise why LTE is so good. Of course there aren't many people using LTE yet in NYC but still. That's unreal.
I have continued to test the Note v the Skyrocket and I think its not just LTE. I switched the sim but the lte sim didn't work on the note. However the note sim worked in the skyrocket and it still showed 2-3 x the note speed in a non LTE location. I cant get more than 1800 download when the skytocket shows 7000 in the same location same network. I tried the apn setting from the skyrocket but it doesn't work on the note. On wifi the skyroxket also showed double or more speed. Its very odd.
Anyone got any ideas?
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ekerbuddyeker said:
SpeedTest. Averaged 12800 download and 12200 upload. That's father than my wifi. My note gets 1380 download and 380 upload. Horrendous!
I couldn't believe it. Now I realise why LTE is so good. Of course there aren't many people using LTE yet in NYC but still.
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I am not going to say LTE is slower than HSPA+, because it should not be.
BUT, what I can tell you is HSPA+ can be really fast, and it usually never is a matter of the cellphone, but the network.
My Note, in a random speedtest I did yesterday:
That's pretty much 9Mbps down and 3Mbps.
That reduces a lot the diference to what you can get with LTE.
I would choose for improving a lot HSPA+ networks before starting with LTE...
By the way, during busiest hours of the day I can always get 5-6Mbps down and 2-3Mbps up.
At night, it is easy to see 11+Mbps
My network is Vodafone Spain, which here it is HSPA+ 14.4Mbps. And the tests I make are in Valencia, Spain.
I used to have the T-Mobile Galaxy S2 same hardware as the ATT skyrocket just no LTE.
I use to pull down 16-18Mbps on their 4G network, super fast almost matching my home cable internet.
Unfortunately the Note doesn't support T-Mobile's 4G so I had to switch to AT&T, now on average I get about 1.5-3Mbps, and most I've seen is peak to 7Mbps.
On T-Mobile I paid $20 a month for 5GB of data, now I'm paying AT&T $25 a month for 2GB! Too bad T-Mobile wasn't able to run my note on full data speeds or else I'd never switch.
wierdly side by side with the skyrocket in a Non LTE area the skyrocket still gets double the speed on H. On wifi it does the same.
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wierdly side by side with the skyrocket in a Non LTE area the skyrocket still gets double the speed on H. On wifi it does the same.
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Speed on a smartphone literally means squat. Those super fast speeds on the ****rocket are almost never utilized because of its crappy Snapdragon chipset.
The speed advantage that LTE phones have is almost never seen when browsing or anything because the Snapdragon is a piece of trash chipset. It's laggy, unreliable, but its the only chipset that works on LTE phones.
Thats why Im NEVER buying an LTE ****phone till they find a SoC that can outperform the 1.4ghz Exynos and put it in an LTE phone.That won't happen for a long long time. 12 months min.
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@ eker - it must be your APN - i get about 3-3.5k down and 1.2k up
but I also get a MUCH better reception than my inspire 4g (in same spots that inspire barely got any reception, I get 2-3+ bars, and the whole thing just seems faster. I used standard APN settings - same as I used on my Inspire.
I'm in Boston area - and we got this retard heaven - Brookline, where they banned cell tower - so I used to not get any reception in many spots - now I do, and it's somewhat faster (internet speed that is) - in youtube for example
That's a lot of anger. Its just a phone... anyway in side by side tests with the note, loading web pages running maps or Google earth... actually every app, the phone speed is about the same. Have you actually tied the skyrocket????
I am happy with the note but trying to figure out why, in non LTE and side by side in wifi, the skyrocket is still significantly faster than the note. It feels a generation faster which is weird.
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Speed on a smartphone literally means squat. Those super fast speeds on the ****rocket are almost never utilized because of its crappy Snapdragon chipset.
The speed advantage that LTE phones have is almost never seen when browsing or anything because the Snapdragon is a piece of trash chipset. It's laggy, unreliable, but its the only chipset that works on LTE phones.
Thats why Im NEVER buying an LTE ****phone till they find a SoC that can outperform the 1.4ghz Exynos and put it in an LTE phone.That won't happen for a long long time. 12 months min.
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Slow speeds?
On at&t. I know they have a huge r&d operation in Israel but not Dubai
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Wifi MIMO and LTE CAT 9?

Hi guys, i was wondering about the real differences fromo OP3. In OP3, they cut down the cost by not implementing all the antenna array form MIMO: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-3-cat-6-lte.450553/#post-15128371.
We have a fantastic Snapdragon 821, which has x12 modem, i think, so the question is: do they made the same mistake with OP3T? Does it come without MIMO and with an old x8 modem (only CAT6)? Is it again an hardware problem or can it be unlocked someways?
Thanks!
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/11/18/snapdragon-821-gives-oneplus-3t-power-push
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https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/11/18/snapdragon-821-gives-oneplus-3t-power-push
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Unfortunately, this is not reliable. In the past, with OP3 they wrote it has x12 modem, mu-mimo etc etc, but then the modem was an x8 modem. So i wouldn't trust what they declare on the site much.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/16/snapdragon-820-oneplus-3-life-party
Yes i heard that one but here they clearly mention like:
"OnePlus 3T uses the integrated Snapdragon X12 LTE modem with advanced 802.11ac MU-MIMO Wi-Fi support." etc.
"The X12 LTE modem is designed to offer superior network coverage and 33 percent faster 4G+ LTE speeds than the previous generation modem, making sure that voice calls, video, and data get to the OnePlus 3T faster. "
Are they such a "liars"?
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Yes i heard that one but here they clearly mention like:
"OnePlus 3T uses the integrated Snapdragon X12 LTE modem with advanced 802.11ac MU-MIMO Wi-Fi support." etc.
"The X12 LTE modem is designed to offer superior network coverage and 33 percent faster 4G+ LTE speeds than the previous generation modem, making sure that voice calls, video, and data get to the OnePlus 3T faster. "
Are they such a "liars"?
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Yeah, the thing is they wrote almost the exact same thing for OP3:
"Blazing fast connectivity
Less time waiting means more time spent binging on Netflix. Thanks to the X12 LTE modem integrated into the Snapdragon 820, spotty internet is a problem of the past. The modem provides up to 33 percent faster 4G+ LTE speeds compared to the previous generation, so web pages and video streams load quickly and seamlessly. And with 802.11ac MU-MIMO support, the OnePlus 3 can download files faster with its 3X increase in user speeds and longer battery life, compared to traditional Wi-Fi."
And then we discovered Oneplus had cheaped out with the modem, not implementing all the antenna array. Qualcomm of course write down the technical spec of their modem, but who knows what Oneplus did with it..
I'm trying to get if they cheaped out again with OP3T, as it's marked as "CAT 6", even if the modem should go up to CAT 13.
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mrk2006 said:
Yeah, the thing is they wrote almost the exact same thing for OP3:
"Blazing fast connectivity
Less time waiting means more time spent binging on Netflix. Thanks to the X12 LTE modem integrated into the Snapdragon 820, spotty internet is a problem of the past. The modem provides up to 33 percent faster 4G+ LTE speeds compared to the previous generation, so web pages and video streams load quickly and seamlessly. And with 802.11ac MU-MIMO support, the OnePlus 3 can download files faster with its 3X increase in user speeds and longer battery life, compared to traditional Wi-Fi."
And then we discovered Oneplus had cheaped out with the modem, not implementing all the antenna array. Qualcomm of course write down the technical spec of their modem, but who knows what Oneplus did with it..
I'm trying to get if they cheaped out again with OP3T, as it's marked as "CAT 6", even if the modem should go up to CAT 13.
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There is no lie on that statement. Is talking about MU-MIMO not about MIMO.
Now the question is, is it possible to port Cat12/13 from other MSM8996. If it's hardware related like the USB port and FM radio it's futile. Vote with your wallet.

Speed test wifi and 4g vs iPhone 6S+

Just posting a quick result of a speed test on the might mix 256gb version. Vs the iPhone 6s+. Same network was used both in 4g and WiFi test on both devices, and the same Sim card as well.
The iPhone and mi mix performed equally good on WiFi. Both connected instantly. The Mix was a bit faster at loading uncached webpages.
On 4g it was a different story however. The Mix took on average about 30 seconds to connect to 4g (seems it favors H and H+) where as the iPhone almost had a 4g signal before I popped in the sum tray. There was also a noticeable speed difference of about 30% in favor of the iPhone, hitting a whopping 140-160mbps. The mix topped out at 90, but generally stayed at 70-80.
I live In a country with one of the strongest 4g connections in the world. It seems the iPhone is able to connect to 4g+ but the Mix isnt. What a shame. What are your network findings?
And the results from the iPhone 6s+ on the same network with the same Sim card
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And the results from the iPhone 6s+ on the same network with the same Sim card
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something odd
yes, the U.S (country that I live in) does not have the fastest LTE but even then no country has 140MBps (this is like the router speeds being touted for all kinds of MBps while the pipe into the home is nowhere near as fast; also depends on receiver h/w, if transferring files between computers versus communicating with outside world (internet))
maybe some aggregation going on?
I can see though the I6+/I6 connecting much faster as they have a much bigger band coverage and so tapping into whatever is available and connecting much faster .. that is true
(disclosure: do not own either of these devices..just trying to learn)
http://bgr.com/2016/02/04/lte-speed-test-comparison-global-2016/
https://opensignal.com/reports/2016/02/usa/state-of-the-mobile-network/
https://www.verizonwireless.com/arc...plans/4g-lte-speeds-compared-to-home-network/
http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/#iphone-6s-iphone-6s-plus
http://superuser.com/questions/235784/router-speed-vs-isp-speed
http://www.radio-electronics.com/in...-lte-advanced-carrier-channel-aggregation.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_LTE_Advanced
This is on my 150/150 line. Router being a Netgear 6250.

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