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Advice needed: Sprint Diamond or Unlocked

Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin

elwuero said:
Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin
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Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.

EliteXen said:
Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.
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I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.

elwuero said:
I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.
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If you're satisfied with your plan then i'd just stay with ATT. You'd probably get more use out of Slingbox than Sprint TV, plus you can always load vids onto storage memory. And being able to upgrade whenever you want really comes in handy with the way HTC keeps updating their phone lineup about every 6 months.

Which gTab? Carrrier thoughts please...

Getting my GF a tablet and have kinda ruled out the Ipad because we both don't like Apple and iTunes. I;m experienced with Android and thats what I want to get her. I bought the NookColor and rooted it and all that, but it's going back. It's just not a viable solution for someone not too technical and wants to just pick something up and use it. Mainly because of the lacking hard buttons and no 3g is really the deal breaker now. The gTab seems perfect because of 3g and simple to use. I thought they were all the same until I started reading and it seems as if Tmobile is a bad idea unless you want unlimited data without a contract. So let me get to the needs: minimal data on a month to month plan. I prefer to pay out front and not be under contract. So which carriers Gtab is for her? Or should I wait for something else? BTW I don't like playing the waiting game because you just end up waiting and waiting. She's perfectly fine using a device for years where as I need the latest, greatest.
Thanks in advance.

http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2010/11/17/want-to-buy-a-samsung-galaxy-tab-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

I guess any of ATT or tmobile will be good. Because if u want to resale it (after few month ) you can unlock it and sell it on nice price and also gsm is acceptable in other countries too. can be used to make calls and receive calls too(dont know about sprint and verizon cdma tabs).
I guess tmobile plans are cheaper than att.
I have tmobile but i dont have data plan because i dont need it. I bought my on local craiglist.

For light no contract 3G, I think AT&T is the cheapest easy option at $15/mo.
The AT&T GT also has the "option" of easy unlocking, then getting a Tmo prepaid SIM and using Tmo's DayPass for $1.50/day, EDGE only, but for very light, day by day, its a cheap alternative.
NB you cannot do that with a Tmo GT since Tmo has blocked its own GT's from using the prepaid DayPass.
Another fringe idea is Sprint's GT, hacked to run on Boost Mobile, $0.35/day for data, but far more complicated to do the hacking.

Do not get the Verizon tab under any circumstances.

At&t will let you have the complete tab and phone experience. And it travels overseas better.

While I have and love the AT&T Tab, I'll throw a wrench in here and say that Spacemoose is going to bat for the CDMA Tabs with HC! I'd give the edge to GSM, but not a big deal as I use mine with Wi-Fi only.

ap77 said:
Do not get the Verizon tab under any circumstances.
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please amplify... why not?
- not GSM, no ROMs? no SIMs? no int'l usage?
- no 2.3.4 update unlike Sprint?
what else?

neurocutie said:
please amplify... why not?
- not GSM, no ROMs? no SIMs? no int'l usage?
- no 2.3.4 update unlike Sprint?
what else?
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- No GB upgrade -- and knowing VZ, it will be practically never when we get it
- CDMA generally behind the GSM curve in terms of carrier upgrades
- More development on the GSM front

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- No GB upgrade -- and knowing VZ, it will be practically never when we get it
- CDMA generally behind the GSM curve in terms of carrier upgrades
- More development on the GSM front
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Sure GSM tab is getting more ROMs, but the only official GB upgrade in the US now is Sprint CDMA and that works on Verizon's tab.

MI5 - Can I Bring It to VZW In The US?

Hi Everyone,
I've been reading the reviews and specs for the MI5 Pro and am considering purchasing one. GSM/CDMA support, 128Gb Storage, etc. sounds great to me.
My plan is to have something with an unlocked BL so I can root, TWRP, and AOSP it just the way I want it.
Before I do how much of a pain will it be to getting working on Verizon's 4G/LTE networks? If I understand what I am reading correctly it supports all the frequency bands on Big Red. Any thoughts? Comments and suggestions are requested on this.
Thanks in Advance

I should also add this is not for the BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) program. I have a monthly plan and am up for a new device but don't want what they offer.

I highly doubt you'll be able to get it to work on Verizon. Even unlocking GSM bands is a pain.
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VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.

FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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I don't specifically know about verizon, but our local CDMA carriers do work with the Mi5.

Cdma carriers the us only allows approved devices.
No hope.

FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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You can be the guniea pig and try it out but your chances of getting it to work on Verizon are slim to none.
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The more I research this the more dim the results look. It seems that the problem with bringing it to a CDMA network is lack of 4G functionality. Definitely a deal breaker for sure......

Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.

Duwenbasden said:
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
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I knew that was how they were in the past but I thought maybe they loosened up on it. They now have a Bring Your Own Device program. Still doesn't get past getting 4G working flawlessly on CDMA.
I need to look deeper at GSM carriers in the US. Coverage in my area is important for work.

I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.

Thanks DFSPCC, I was wondering the same thing and having it listed to work with VZN in the US on willmyphonework.net up to 3G speeds, which is fine by me. Considering the low price at the moment for the Mi5, I think is a great option.

Never to late
I'm considering on getting this phone... 5.7 inch with OK specs to work with Verizon only thing is you said 3g but that's OK its just to play and test hopefully I can root it... Don't knkw if they have any Roms for it..... Ive been HTC for over 10 yrs and they have let me down been waiting for a 5.7 or bigger... The max was nice but bad specs realy slow so.... I was going to do the s8 plus but now I see the U12 coming soon. But i don't know if Verizon will carry it... They don't carry the U11 don't know why.... What do you think? And thanks again for your time and help god bless....
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I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
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Unlocked Bands and the Snapdragon 835

So I was thinking about current carriers and of course mvno's. (Currently on at t USA)
Theoretically the unlocked version of Snapdragon 835 has a lot of different bands it can use. Works fine on at t for me.
I am curious though, would some mnvo like net10 (access to multiple carriers) be able to uniquely take advantage of all the available lte bands that it can use )ex at t and TMobile depending on which has better speed or even use both?
Or does it not work that way. Does anyone have more knowledge then I do here?
Does anyone have experience with mvno's and how they work. I always shied away from them assuming they get secondary bandwidth compared to primary at t Verizon etc users.

I don't know what you mean. All OnePlus 5's are unlocked, They only difference is international or a Chinese variant. This means none are carrier locked but they only have GSM radios so they only work on AT&T or T-Mobile with LTE data. So whatever MVNO you use, has to be a T-Mobile or AT&T MVNO. The Bands are all unlocked it's just what band the carrier uses will it take advantage of from the MVNO.

Eric214 said:
I don't know what you mean. All OnePlus 5's are unlocked, They only difference is international or a Chinese variant. This means none are carrier locked but they only have GSM radios so they only work on AT&T or T-Mobile with LTE data. So whatever MVNO you use, has to be a T-Mobile or AT&T MVNO. The Bands are all unlocked it's just what band the carrier uses will it take advantage of from the MVNO.
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that is partly incorrect there was some videos of a few well known reviewers in the android community that tested the oneplus 5 on verizon and it works .....including data.

No not incorrect at all. I said they only work on AT&T T-Mobile with LTE data. The Verizon thing you're talking about is 3G and less. What I said, it's 100% correct

Eric214 said:
I don't know what you mean. All OnePlus 5's are unlocked, They only difference is international or a Chinese variant. This means none are carrier locked but they only have GSM radios so they only work on AT&T or T-Mobile with LTE data. So whatever MVNO you use, has to be a T-Mobile or AT&T MVNO. The Bands are all unlocked it's just what band the carrier uses will it take advantage of from the MVNO.
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No not incorrect at all. I said they only work on AT&T T-Mobile with LTE data. The Verizon thing you're talking about is 3G and less. What I said, it's 100% correct
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On that note, there is only a single global version of the OnePlus 5. No Chinese only version.
Supporting the comments about Verizon though; it does work, but like you said, not well with data. Though the phone does support a single CDMA band. More useful for emergency calls than actually putting a SIM in it.

Raharazod said:
On that note, there is only a single global version of the OnePlus 5. No Chinese only version.
Supporting the comments about Verizon though; it does work, but like you said, not well with data. Though the phone does support a single CDMA band. More useful for emergency calls than actually putting a SIM in it.
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There is a Chinese version, It uses Hydrogen OS instead of Oxygen OS

Eric214 said:
There is a Chinese version, It uses Hydrogen OS instead of Oxygen OS
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Same hardware though. So yes, again, technically correct that there is a version with a different OS but not correct that they have different support for bands. Which is what we're talking about.
Which is probably what you meant, just wasn't very clear.

So only some MVNO's have speeds limited by the big carriers. Others are treated identically. My wife is on cricket (ATT network, $35/month), her data speeds are capped at 10 Mbps (which is fine for her). I'm on straight talk (ATT network, $45/month) and my data speeds are identical to regular ATT customers (and I've confirmed by doing speedtest.net tests with a friend's phone side by side).
T-Mobile and Sprint coverage stink near me, and Verizon really limits what phones you can get, so I've stuck with ATT MVNO's over the years (been on straight talk since 2012). For heavy data users, straight talk has an 8gb data, unlimited talk/text for $45/month. If you don't need 8gb and you don't stream video/tether, you'd be better off on cricket, which is $35/month for 3gb+unlimited talk/text. Cricket also has dope family plans (5 lines for $100).
Be warned, straight talk customer service is awful. The only time you ever really need to call them is if you want to port your number over or if you forget to pay your bill (or your auto pay card expires or something). They can do simple stuff, but it's often like talking to a brick wall. Cricket customer service is MUCH better and if you don't need the extra speed, cricket is the way to go.
I have no affiliation with either cricket or straight talk, they've never paid me a dime to say anything nice about them, I'm just a very happy customer.
Sorry for the wall of text. Hope this helps some of you make the leap!

Raharazod said:
On that note, there is only a single global version of the OnePlus 5. No Chinese only version.
Supporting the comments about Verizon though; it does work, but like you said, not well with data. Though the phone does support a single CDMA band. More useful for emergency calls than actually putting a SIM in it.
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Eric214 said:
No not incorrect at all. I said they only work on AT&T T-Mobile with LTE data. The Verizon thing you're talking about is 3G and less. What I said, it's 100% correct
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I have the OnePlus 5 and use it on Verizon. I have got lte to work on bands 2 and 4. It isn't ideal but it works.

note 9 verizon vs note 9 tmobile

I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input

Terasman210 said:
I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
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All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile

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All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
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But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well

Terasman210 said:
But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
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You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.

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You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
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Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time

Terasman210 said:
Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
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You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.

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You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
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His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.

Jammol said:
His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
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Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.

gruuvin said:
Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
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Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again

Terasman210 said:
Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
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Yes. I think it may make no difference at all, or it might (much to gain, but nothing to lose), but most of the evidence in these forums, when it comes to connection quality, is extremely variable and anecdotal. Nobody can know an answer to this kind of question, unless they test it out for themselves. Good luck!