Hello,
I am planning to buy AT&T version of Note 9 from craigslist (since they are cheaper due to AT&T BOGO). I am planning to flash the unlocked N960U1 firmware and use it on Verizon.
Can someone please tell me if I flash the SM-N960U1 firmware, does it include all the bands same as if I bought unlocked phone directly from Samsung? Or does it keep the same bands as came with AT&T? Do I need to flash any modem etc on top of the main firmware to get all the bands?
I want to make sure the phone will have all the bands since I am also planning to use it internationally in addition to on the US Verizon network.
AlwaysNoob said:
Hello,
I am planning to buy AT&T version of Note 9 from craigslist (since they are cheaper due to AT&T BOGO). I am planning to flash the unlocked N960U1 firmware and use it on Verizon.
Can someone please tell me if I flash the SM-N960U1 firmware, does it include all the bands same as if I bought unlocked phone directly from Samsung? Or does it keep the same bands as came with AT&T? Do I need to flash any modem etc on top of the main firmware to get all the bands?
I want to make sure the phone will have all the bands since I am also planning to use it internationally in addition to on the US Verizon network.
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All the *American* Note 9 and S9 phones are identical. If you flash U1 firmware, it becomes identical to a U1 sold directly from Samsung and will support everything they say unlocked supports.
It's been so long and I've been googling for an hour. I haven't flashed since the Note 2 days. I am plan on getting a VZW Note 9. What Odin/firmware/other files do I need to flash and what slots ( or link me to a post).
A lot of posts on here and reddit are assuming your'e a flasher and not giving "steps for dummies".
I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
thechaoz said:
It's been so long and I've been googling for an hour. I haven't flashed since the Note 2 days. I am plan on getting a VZW Note 9. What Odin/firmware/other files do I need to flash and what slots ( or link me to a post).
A lot of posts on here and reddit are assuming your'e a flasher and not giving "steps for dummies".
I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
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The download is slow if you don't have a premium account but go here for a good set of instructions.
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The download is slow if you don't have a premium account but go here for a good set of instructions.
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Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
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thechaoz said:
Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
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That would be the USC one from the pull down menu. That is the same one you get with a boxed unlocked phone. You would be better off picking the one that matches your carrier, it will still be bloat free but optimized for the chosen carrier. If you have Verizon or AT&T I have those here on AFH. There is a newer update but I don't see it on Sammobile only via OTA so far.
thechaoz said:
Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
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Are you using the Note 9 with the unlocked firmware with VZW GUDP? Have you installed any OTA security updates? I've heard there's a small chance a security update could re-instate the hotspot check but I haven't been able to find anyone with GUDP to check.
I'm somewhat in the same position as the OP, I have a note9 which I'm guessing has att firmware, I just bought it "unlocked" from an Ebay reseller. I'm using it on Straighttalk with their att sim. My major (to me) issue is I lost my hot spot permission. I've had hotspot working on last several phones including a note8 hours ago, as soon as I popped sim into this note9 I lost it. I've tried several APN settings to no avail, everything works fine, but no hotspot permissive.
Will I have to flash the U1 firmware to get my hotspot back?
flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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just set sales code to sprint then set all the bands u want.. im currently on U1 firmware on verizon network with sprint sales code to gain access to dialer codes andall is well
to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
elliwigy said:
just set sales code to sprint then set all the bands u want.. im currently on U1 firmware on verizon network with sprint sales code to gain access to dialer codes andall is well
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to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
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yup because phones hardware natively supports these bands:
4G LTE
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS 1),*B5(850),*B7*(2600),*B8*(900),*B12*(700),*B13*(700),*B14*(700),B17*(700),*B18*(800),*B19*(800),*B20*(800),*B25*(1900+),*B26(850),*B28*(700),*B30*(2300),*B38*(TDD 2600),*B39*(TDD 1900),*B40*(TDD 2300),*B41*(TDD 2500),*B46*(TDD 900),*B66(1700/2100),*B71*(600)
3G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS A-F),*B5*(850),*B8(900)
2G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UCDMA BC0*(800),*CDMA BC1*(1900),*CDMA BC10*(800 Secondary),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B5*(850),*B8*(900)
my original post edit was in regards to the fellow above my post(smoke229) inquiring about csc enabled features.
happy new year
bober10113 said:
flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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The N960U and the N960U1 all support the same radio bands. They are all identical devices hardware-wise. Actually the N960W is as well. So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands.
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elliwigy said:
to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
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Yup. Mine is an ATT carrier model purchased from ATT. Currently running thr U1 firmware on T-Mo with full support for all the T-Mo bands. Honestly switching to the same device for all carriers starting with the S8/+ was the best move Samsung made. I'm anxious for the carrier switching firmware to make a comeback on the Note 9 as well. It was magical watching it switch carrier firmware automatically on the Note 8.
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bober10113 said:
yup because phones hardware natively supports these bands:
4G LTE
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS 1),*B5(850),*B7*(2600),*B8*(900),*B12*(700),*B13*(700),*B14*(700),B17*(700),*B18*(800),*B19*(800),*B20*(800),*B25*(1900+),*B26(850),*B28*(700),*B30*(2300),*B38*(TDD 2600),*B39*(TDD 1900),*B40*(TDD 2300),*B41*(TDD 2500),*B46*(TDD 900),*B66(1700/2100),*B71*(600)
3G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS A-F),*B5*(850),*B8(900)
2G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UCDMA BC0*(800),*CDMA BC1*(1900),*CDMA BC10*(800 Secondary),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B5*(850),*B8*(900)
my original post edit was in regards to the fellow above my post(smoke229) inquiring about csc enabled features.
happy new year
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You can also effect CSC-enabled features by flashing new carrier firmware, assuming you have a SIM for that carrier. Thr CSC specific features will all depend on which SIM card is in the phone. As it provisions automatically for each SIM.
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The N960U and the N960U1 all support the same radio bands. They are all identical devices hardware-wise. Actually the N960W is as well. So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands.
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Yup. Mine is an ATT carrier model purchased from ATT. Currently running thr U1 firmware on T-Mo with full support for all the T-Mo bands. Honestly switching to the same device for all carriers starting with the S8/+ was the best move Samsung made. I'm anxious for the carrier switching firmware to make a comeback on the Note 9 as well. It was magical watching it switch carrier firmware automatically on the Note 8.
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You can also effect CSC-enabled features by flashing new carrier firmware, assuming you have a SIM for that carrier. Thr CSC specific features will all depend on which SIM card is in the phone. As it provisions automatically for each SIM.
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so people getting their network unlock codes and unlocking their devices to use with other carriers are pretending to be using their phones on these other "bands" all this time ..wow?
what the u1 firmware does is lift the carrier lock.
the phones original firmware had the ability to use all bands i described in my previous post from day 1.
and i know all about csc so don't waste your breath on me for that.
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so people getting their network unlock codes and unlocking their devices to use with other carriers are pretending to be using their phones on these other "bands" all this time ..wow?
what the u1 firmware does is lift the carrier lock.
the phones original firmware had the ability to use all bands i described in my previous post from day 1.
and i know all about csc so don't waste your breath on me for that.
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I'm not sure what you mean about pretending to use other bands? I'm saying they all support all the bands. Also not sure why you're taking it so personal?
Also, the U1 firmware doesn't lift the carrier lock. You still have to have a carrier-locked device SIM unlocked, either through your carrier, or through a third-party service. At least that's how it works on US Snapdragon devices. I know you use an Exynos, so I'm not sure how the carrier study works on those. All the U1 firmware does is provide a clean, non-carrier branded firmware.
And I didn't waste my breath. Unless you actually say everything out loud while you type? Like moving your lips when you read?
:Shrugs: Hapoy New Year!! :laugh:
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I'm not sure what you mean about pretending to use other bands? I'm saying they all support all the bands. Also not sure why you're taking it so personal?
Also, the U1 firmware doesn't lift the carrier lock. You still have to have a carrier-locked device SIM unlocked, either through your carrier, or through a third-party service. At least that's how it works on US Snapdragon devices. I know you use an Exynos, so I'm not sure how the carrier study works on those. All the U1 firmware does is provide a clean, non-carrier branded firmware.
And I didn't waste my breath. Unless you actually say everything out loud while you type? Like moving your lips when you read?
:Shrugs: Hapoy New Year!! :laugh:
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my bad on the u1 lifting the carrier lock then.
but what i dont understand is:
" So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands."
if they all support the same bands then flashing different firmware should be irrelevant on the phones capacity to use bands that are already available by default.?
bober10113 said:
my bad on the u1 lifting the carrier lock then.
but what i dont understand is:
" So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands."
if they all support the same bands then flashing different firmware should be irrelevant on the phones capacity to use bands that are already available by default.?
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Not even a giggle about the moving your lips while you read comment? Come on, that was gold.
As far as I can tell, there's no difference band support wise between carrier firmware and U1 firmware. BUT with that said, I've heard people say get better signal on carrier firmware. So maybe some carrier firmware locks out certain bands that aren't typically used for that carrier. And I know T-Mobile has aid in the past with the Note 8, only their carrier branded version supported the 256 Quad and 4x4 MIMO or whatever they call that advanced LTE technology. So it leads me.to believe other carrier software maybe locks out the bands T-Mo needs for the advanced LTE stuff.
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Not even a giggle about the moving your lips while you read comment? Come on, that was gold.
As far as I can tell, there's no difference band support wise between carrier firmware and U1 firmware. BUT with that said, I've heard people say get better signal on carrier firmware. So maybe some carrier firmware locks out certain bands that aren't typically used for that carrier. And I know T-Mobile has aid in the past with the Note 8, only their carrier branded version supported the 256 Quad and 4x4 MIMO or whatever they call that advanced LTE technology. So it leads me.to believe other carrier software maybe locks out the bands T-Mo needs for the advanced LTE stuff.
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yeah that's why people flash the tmo detonator pack on rooted devices. but on stock carrier bloat free u1 firmware these 'options' arent probably there. what ever hokus pokus TMO does with their csc to lube up their greased lightning dosent change the fact that other phones having different firmware can still use their services regardless of the firmware you are on, all available bands should operate correctly. thus explaining my previous posts. which were also heavily pointed towards OP's post .( he was inquiring how he wanted to be sure he could still access 'bands' from ATT after flashing u1.) so if you take my comments into context then maybe you'll see that they make sense.( appart from the one where i stated to you that u1 unlocked the sim, but who cares it's only you)
now foe the comedy part, guess we have different visions on what comedy gold is. for instance, the image/caricature your are building in your own mind to make your self laughs is quite a personal thing. Depending on the age and maturity of ones self, it might or might not be(funny). Personally, i usually don't let myself be troubled too much with cheap shots. But i guess it all depends in how hard the other aszhole works at it..
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yeah that's why people flash the tmo detonator pack on rooted devices. but on stock carrier bloat free u1 firmware these 'options' arent probably there. what ever hokus pokus TMO does with their csc to lube up their greased lightning dosent change the fact that other phones having different firmware can still use their services regardless of the firmware you are on, all available bands should operate correctly. thus explaining my previous posts. which were also heavily pointed towards OP's post .( he was inquiring how he wanted to be sure he could still access 'bands' from ATT after flashing u1.) so if you take my comments into context then maybe you'll see that they make sense.( appart from the one where i stated to you that u1 unlocked the sim, but who cares it's only you)
now foe the comedy part, guess we have different visions on what comedy gold is. for instance, the image/caricature your are building in your own mind to make your self laughs is quite a personal thing. Depending on the age and maturity of ones self, it might or might not be(funny). Personally, i usually don't let myself be troubled too much with cheap shots. But i guess it all depends in how hard the other aszhole works at it..
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The detonator for the Exynos running T-Mo firmware. It's a bit different when talking Snapdragon devices.
And I can tell. You giggled. A little.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
The detonator for the Exynos running T-Mo firmware. It's a bit different when talking Snapdragon devices.
And I can tell. You giggled. A little.
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ill tell u jn 6 to 9 beers
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Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
I have the same question
Gigatopiloto said:
I have the same question
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i think this is the place to buy it. Since they will open it up and use one of their sims to make 5 minutes of calls before sending it to us, so it doesn't lock up once we get it.
Has anyone used 4g exclusively on verizon, what are the drawbacks?
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
Gigatopiloto said:
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
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I dont think you will be able to use it to make phone calls or msg because verizon use a CDMA network for this and the exynos version doesnt have this. Just my guess.
Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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That's not true at all, my Galaxy Tab S2 is an Exynos and runs on Verizon LTE., and the galaxy S6 was an Exynos 7420 on Verizon.
Oh I stand corrected. I knew the tablets were supported but figured since you don't make calls from them, it wouldn't need cdma. In either case, unless it's made for Verizon, the exynos versions won't natively support Verizon.
The FCC filing shows it support the Verizon LTE bands, but no CDMA bands.
It would probably work for data but I am not sure if it would work for calls, unless they implement VOLTE on the international version for Verizon.
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
Edit: looks like bhphoto added the model numbers for their preorders as "SM-G950F" and "SM-G955F", which is the same as the European/global GSM version. So that is Exynos chipset powered, and it's a no go for CDMA guys.
The plus on this model is it gets the software updates more quickly than the US unlocked model. (This is still speculation based on Samsung not updating SM-G930U to Android 7 for months while the SM-G930F and the US carrier models already received their updates.)
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Commodore 64 said:
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Sim unlocked at best buy will be out may 9th priced at 725/825
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
jucytec said:
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
954wrecker said:
Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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jonno95 said:
Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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Thanks for your help and concern. haha, i still don't want to be the first. I'm going to see what happens here before i get too serious about getting it. The risk in waiting is that the current unlocked bootloader method for the exynos may get patched. idk
Im thinking about buying the s8+ verizon phone from samsnug direct as they have a great trade in program currently
my questions are..
Do i have to be on verizon to get updates? Im thinking of taking it to straight talk
Can i flash an unlocked firmware of this and the phone still remains working fine?
DOe sit have bands for tmobile / att ?
They are supposedly the same exact hardware. Some of us flashed the combination firmware to be able to unlock the LTE bands. If you stay on Verizon firmware, you will not get any OTA's. However you can use their update software as well as Samsung smart switch software to do manually updates. Plus you can always download VZW firmware from places like Updato.
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They are supposedly the same exact hardware. Some of us flashed the combination firmware to be able to unlock the LTE bands. If you stay on Verizon firmware, you will not get any OTA's. However you can use their update software as well as Samsung smart switch software to do manually updates. Plus you can always download VZW firmware from places like Updato.
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I am interested in buying the galaxy s8 plus for verizon as well since i will be getting a good deal but I use and would like to stay using AT&T service.
I know that the verizon model is GSM unlocked and could be used with AT&T. I would need to update the APN's to make everything work correctly.
My concern is if it will pick up all the AT&T bands if the phone even supports all the bands. You stated you flashed the combination firmware to unlock the LTE bands.
Would that be exactly what i would need?
If so do you have a link ?
after posting this question I will be doing a search as well.
TIA.
You should just flash the Att firmware then. Check the switch carrier posts for detailed instructions
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I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
Does anyone have any comment on this?
Ok my opinion I guess is better the unlock firmware because tmobile have a lot of bloatware so ... let see what other said about it .
I'm current have a tmobile note 8 and Thinking if is possible flash via Odin the unlock firmware
I would keep to motto "Don't fix it if it ain't broken". Does wifi calling works? do you use it? Hows the reception compared to previous phone? Anything else missing/ don't work like visual voice, if you even use it?
On the other hand, personally I don't see much T-mo bloat on my phone either, so probably doesn't matter much which FW you have .
Is the T-Mobile phone the same as the Unlocked? I thought the T-Mobile version was GSM only and the Unlocked would be GSM and CDMA.
Also should be able to flash just the missing parts instead of whole rom. Check the AT&T threads, some info in there.
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Since at least Galaxy S7? all US hardware is the same and the main reason we have Qualcom is that damn CDMA, otherwise it would be Exynos. Of course you need proper software to unlock right frequencies and protocols. I do not know if T-mo software has CDMA protocols, but OP is on T-mo so it's irrelevant.
pete4k said:
Since at least Galaxy S7? all US hardware is the same and the main reason we have Qualcom is that damn CDMA, otherwise it would be Exynos. Of course you need proper software to unlock right frequencies and protocols. I do not know if T-mo software has CDMA protocols, but OP is on T-mo so it's irrelevant.
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Wow, is that really true about CDMA and Qualcomm? Not doubting you but I wasn't aware.
Not much evident bloatware on the T Mobile version. Just a few silly apps I disabled.
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okrk said:
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
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1/2. Don't need to, doesn't gain you any benefit. TMO puts their apps (e.g., Visual Voicemail) in Play.
3. Yes, but Samsung may not care.
4. Check the XDA news, Chainfire set up a site for this.
okrk said:
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
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1. Devices are the same so trying out the T-Mobile firmware to see if you prefer it over the unlocked firmware is fine.
2. Root not needed to flash firmware.
3. Will not void warranty.
4. To go back to stock follow this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...covery-odin-recovery-software-t3671615/page22
I have flashed two different Sprint versions on my unlocked and have flashed back to Stock XAA unlocked, I like the download booster, and have not triggered Knox warranty flag. Choosing carrier firmware over unlocked firmware is personal preference, the best way to decide is to flash and try...just follow the guide...
Note:
*use regular Odin to flash from unlocked to carrier
*use Prince Comsy's Odin to flash from carrier to Stock unlocked XAA or carrier version of Stock unlocked (only the csc is different)
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bpleat said:
1/2. Don't need to, doesn't gain you any benefit. TMO puts their apps (e.g., Visual Voicemail) in Play.
3. Yes, but Samsung may not care.
4. Check the XDA news, Chainfire set up a site for this.
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Waranty is not voided by flashing firmware, you are mistaken...only after custom like recovery and some rooting methods.
Chainfire is still working on cfauto root for our device. It will be awesome once it is uploaded to the website.
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Wow, is that really true about CDMA and Qualcomm? Not doubting you but I wasn't aware.
Not much evident bloatware on the T Mobile version. Just a few silly apps I disabled.
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T-Mobile is not cdma
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Is the T-Mobile phone the same as the Unlocked? I thought the T-Mobile version was GSM only and the Unlocked would be GSM and CDMA.
Also should be able to flash just the missing parts instead of whole rom. Check the AT&T threads, some info in there.
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All Note 8's have same hardware except FDD bands used in Asian markets...these are not available on the unlocked version...for the U.S., hardware is identical for branded and unlocked versions...in other words, once unlocked by carrier, the T-Mobile version could be used on Sprint or Verizon or be used on ATT...
With T Mobile and CDMA I was referring to the USA Snapdragon devices in relation to why we don't get Exynos.
Someone mentioned that it's due to the use of CDMA technology that for example Verizon uses , is the reason we don't get official Exynos. Since Exynos is not CDMA compatible.
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All Note 8's have same hardware except FDD bands used in Asian markets...these are not available on the unlocked version...for the U.S., hardware is identical for branded and unlocked versions...in other words, once unlocked by carrier, the T-Mobile version could be used on Sprint or Verizon or be used on ATT...
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I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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Yes the U.S. models is what I meant for the snaps...not exynos...guess I could have specified that...lol
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With T Mobile and CDMA I was referring to the USA Snapdragon devices in relation to why we don't get Exynos.
Someone mentioned that it's due to the use of CDMA technology that for example Verizon uses , is the reason we don't get official Exynos. Since Exynos is not CDMA compatible.
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Right... the exynos supposedly had compatibility issues with cdma technologies even though some state that it was compatible before...I think cdma is being phased out eventually...just an opinion though
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I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate it. I dont think thr UK got the note 5. But thats probably just a marketing thing with Samsung.
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Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
BlueFox721 said:
Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
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So in essence, the cuprits are Sprint and Verizon.[emoji38]
It should get interesting should T Mobile merge with Sprint. They'll probably dismantle the CDMA network leaving Verizon with the nonly obsolete network in NA
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Limeybastard said:
So in essence, the cuprits are Sprint and Verizon.[emoji38]
It should get interesting should T Mobile merge with Sprint. They'll probably dismantle the CDMA network leaving Verizon with the nonly obsolete network in NA
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That's what I was thinking
BlueFox721 said:
Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
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That stuff is deep.
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I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (SM-N960UZBAVZW for instance ) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon? Or can I buy an Exynos model and wifi and HD calling will still work on the VZW network?
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I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (960U ?) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon?
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I don't think so.
plainbum said:
I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (SM-N960UZBAVZW for instance ) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon? Or can I buy an Exynos model and wifi and HD calling will still work on the VZW network?
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I don't think so.
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no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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Thanks for your reply.
Are any Snapdragon models rooted?
plainbum said:
Thanks for your reply.
Are any Snapdragon models rooted?
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no sweat
the korean N9500 are snapdragon and are rootable
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no sweat
the korean N9500 are snapdragon and are rootable
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btw that's an note 8 model from either China or south America.
Korean N950N and N960N devices are rootable exynos phones.
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btw that's an note 8 model from either China or south America.
Korean N950N and N960N devices are rootable exynos phones.
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yes, i mistyped the n950 as n9500
youdoofus said:
yes, i mistyped the n950 as n9500
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but again n950 is not a model. exynos korean N950N is.
bober10113 said:
but again n950 is not a model. exynos korean N950N is.
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but again, G960 isnt a model number either, but people say that all the time to refer to the overall model. During the 4 years i used a G900P, you wouldnt even believe how often it was referred to as just the G900. if youd like i can go to several of your posts and nit pick the fu*k out of them too
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but again, G960 isnt a model number either, but people say that all the time to refer to the overall model. During the 4 years i used a G900P, you wouldnt even believe how often it was referred to as just the G900. if youd like i can go to several of your posts and nit pick the fu*k out of them too
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fell free its just that saying that a korean n9500 is a snapdragon device is wrong in many ways.
plus the correction of saying its a korean n950 snapdragon is also wrong. a typo is a mistake that dosen't really change anything in a statement. being wrong across the board needs to be adressed or at least corrected especialy when this information was supposed to serve as help and be informative to another user(which in this case had 2 problems in the statement). I'm not trying to nit pick at you, more at the relevance and correctness of your posts so that others get the correct information.
the only bootloader unlockable snapdragon devices are the Chinese and south American n9500, n9600, etc.. and so on
the korean n950n, n960n and so on are exynos.
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no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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Once you insert a Veriozn sim card doesn't it automatically install Verizon firmware? Hence BYOD?
dave678 said:
Once you insert a Veriozn sim card doesn't it automatically install Verizon firmware? Hence BYOD?
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no. they assume that when you B your O D, they assume that its purchased outright and has no carrier balance or ties financially. If you want vzw firmware on a phone, youll have to flash the vzw version for your hardware
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no. they assume that when you B your O D, they assume that its purchased outright and has no carrier balance or ties financially. If you want vzw firmware on a phone, youll have to flash the vzw version for your hardware
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Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
dave678 said:
Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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on n960u and n960u1 devices, which are multi sim, have all US carriers csc files already. it will just switch.
on international devices such as the n960f for example, this behavior will not happen since the region of the device doesn't contain USA (XAA) csc.
but that's just talking about csc.
if we talk about modems and the technology used to connect to bands, Verizon uses CDMA. all n960u and n960u1 have the hardware to use both cdma and gsm. on the other hand, the n960f ( and F/DS or even n960n) unfortuanlty do not have the hardware required to connect through CDMA networks. so F devies wont even connect at all to provider.(neither F/DS or n960n)
this is pretty common knowledge and is not new. search and read.
one caveat would be the intl. Chinese or South American N9600 devices. they have the ability to connect to both CDMA and GSM networks plus having the ability to unlock the bootloader(custom recovery/rooting). the advanced carrier options will probably not work completely( csc). but that being said ,calls and data will work fine. uppon rooting, some of the xda community have made flashable zip files to try and restore these missing csc festures.( volte, wificalling ...etc)
youdoofus said:
no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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I believe that only AT&T is the only Service Provider in the States that supports the use of Exynos devices....
iceepyon said:
I believe that only AT&T is the only Service Provider in the States that supports the use of Exynos devices....
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incorrect. Exynos devices are GSM only and will run on virtually any stateside GSM provider. The main two are AT&T (as you mentioned) and T-Mob. Exynos versions of this phone will work on either of those and pretty much any other GSM service
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dave678 said:
Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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it wont. go ahead and try it for yourself. For example, you wont get hd calling on a sprint note 9 with a verizon sim without flashing the verizon firmware
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incorrect. Exynos devices are GSM only and will run on virtually any stateside GSM provider. The main two are AT&T (as you mentioned) and T-Mob. Exynos versions of this phone will work on either of those and pretty much any other GSM service
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it wont. go ahead and try it for yourself. For example, you wont get hd calling on a sprint note 9 with a verizon sim without flashing the verizon firmware
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I guarantee you it will. BYOD means everything works including VOLTE and wifi calling. It basically flashes the firmware for you. https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/Galaxy-Note-9-will-not-switch-to-Verizon/td-p/5784127
wow ...lol
lost cause.
dave678 said:
I guarantee you it will. BYOD means everything works including VOLTE and wifi calling. It basically flashes the firmware for you. https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/Galaxy-Note-9-will-not-switch-to-Verizon/td-p/5784127
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Your guarantee is based on a thread that debates the legitimacy of Samsung's BYOD capabilities by literally saying that it didn't work for someone who tried it? That's a bold move there, Cotton.
cmatg said:
Your guarantee is based on a thread that debates the legitimacy of Samsung's BYOD capabilities by literally saying that it didn't work for someone who tried it? That's a bold move there, Cotton.
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Did you read the whole thing? Or you're just jumping to a conclusion?
Saw a reddit post where someone was asking for a solution to his unlocked at&t s20 fe not being able to receive OTA software updates since he was using it outside the usa with a non at&t sim card.
Is this really a thing and does anyone know if the verizon version also has the same restriction? Posted a comment on the reddit thread but it was a couple months old and I doubt anyone will answer.
Thanks
the Verizon version of the 5g has different hardware I've learned. because Verizon use mmwave 5g and pretty no-one else there does, it's gonna be searching for towers it can never find the whole time.
that also means it has it's own firmware compared to other models and with that being carrier firmware, controlled and released by them, they have zero reason to offer it outside the US.
3mel said:
the Verizon version of the 5g has different hardware I've learned. because Verizon use mmwave 5g and pretty no-one else there does, it's gonna be searching for towers it can never find the whole time.
that also means it has it's own firmware compared to other models and with that being carrier firmware, controlled and released by them, they have zero reason to offer it outside the US.
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Could I flash the unlocked version's firmware on it and bypass the need for an active verizon sim card?
I could simply opt out of 5g connectivity from the settings, no?
Petrit Ziu said:
Could I flash the unlocked version's firmware on it and bypass the need for an active verizon sim card?
I could simply opt out of 5g connectivity from the settings, no?
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I'm guessing that if it even installed the firmware at best it would be unstable with massive radio/modem issues.
I wouldn't suggest trying but if you did make sure to download the latest verizon firmware for after when the unlocked hasn't work!