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AOSP ROM necessities

Ok. First I would like to say I personally do not own a Samsung galaxy s6/edge. However, I have played around with one at length at the T-Mobile store, and I can definitely say touchwiz still isn't for me. While I was there at T-Mobile I saw a nexus 6 on display and decided to take a look at it. I absolutely fell in love with it for 2 reasons. One, for the size. Two, stock android. The first one is not a deal breaker when it comes to the s6. However, I find stock android MUCH better than touchwiz. Now I understand that making an AOSP ROM for the s6 is hard because of the exynos processor and all, but I really love the physical design, camera, fingerprint sensor, and heart rate monitor. All of this being said WHEN an AOSP ROM starts to be made please contact me so I can put my input in the development for features and stuff.
Stuff that would be ABSOLUTELY necessary.
1. Fingerprint capabilities. (on lockscreen, google play account, and to open certain apps maybe??)
2. Basically stock touchwiz camera. (with double press Home button to get camera feature)
3. Integration of the heart rate sensor. (Just allow apps to use it)
4. Super Stock animations (like on the nexus)
5. A close all button for the multitasking window
Stuff that is optional
1. Certain features not present in AOSP (like keep awake while you are looking at the phone P.S. I forgot what Samsung called it)
2. Xposed Framework module "swipeback" integration (I love that feature in ios)
3. Rest is open to community suggestions. Go wild! just remember this is AOSP based and hopefully won't be too crazy. Performance
and "butter smoothness" are of the utmost importance.
Will get the s6/edge in either March or April (2015)

reyjkl said:
Ok. First I would like to say I personally do not own a Samsung galaxy s6/edge. However, I have played around with one at length at the T-Mobile store, and I can definitely say touchwiz still isn't for me. While I was there at T-Mobile I saw a nexus 6 on display and decided to take a look at it. I absolutely fell in love with it for 2 reasons. One, for the size. Two, stock android. The first one is not a deal breaker when it comes to the s6. However, I find stock android MUCH better than touchwiz. Now I understand that making an AOSP ROM for the s6 is hard because of the exynos processor and all, but I really love the physical design, camera, fingerprint sensor, and heart rate monitor. All of this being said WHEN an AOSP ROM starts to be made please contact me so I can put my input in the development for features and stuff.
Stuff that would be ABSOLUTELY necessary.
1. Fingerprint capabilities. (on lockscreen, google play account, and to open certain apps maybe??) - Not going to happen. Stock Android does not support biometric security yet and this is a secured element of the device.
2. Basically stock touchwiz camera. (with double press Home button to get camera feature) - Again, not going to happen. The TouchWiz camera is built heavily ontop of the Touchwiz framework and is almost impossible to port. An application for Xposed can enable any hardware key combo to access the cam.
3. Integration of the heart rate sensor. (Just allow apps to use it) - Unless Google Fit builds it in and the framework support is through there I dont expect this to happen.
4. Super Stock animations (like on the nexus) - ROM's can change this
5. A close all button for the multitasking window - CM and most AOSP built roms have this
Stuff that is optional
1. Certain features not present in AOSP (like keep awake while you are looking at the phone P.S. I forgot what Samsung called it) - There are apps that can enable this
2. Xposed Framework module "swipeback" integration (I love that feature in ios) - There are modules for this and apps that can help here
3. Rest is open to community suggestions. Go wild! just remember this is AOSP based and hopefully won't be too crazy. Performance and "butter smoothness" are of the utmost importance. - With the Exynos processor this may take some time since a lot of it is closed source
Will get the s6/edge in either March or April (2015)
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I dont want to burst your bubble since you are new, but that really isnt the way to go about asking for features in ROM's and no one is going to "contact you" when something is in development.
That being said I replied to your stuff in bold in the quote. That being said I highly doubt you will be satisfied with this device based on your demands and recommend looking for a device like the One Plus One or a Nexus that has a lot of what you want.

altimax98 said:
I dont want to burst your bubble since you are new, but that really isnt the way to go about asking for features in ROM's and no one is going to "contact you" when something is in development.
That being said I replied to your stuff in bold in the quote. That being said I highly doubt you will be satisfied with this device based on your demands and recommend looking for a device like the One Plus One or a Nexus that has a lot of what you want.
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you'll have a LONG wait if you think a developer is going to contact you for input on a list of things that cant readily be included in a rom anyways..
plus, what makes you think a developer would want your input??????

The fingerprint scanner, heartrate monitor, etc.,. (samsung specific features/capabilities) can't be supported with AOSP ROMs.
Sorry.

altimax98 said:
I dont want to burst your bubble since you are new, but that really isnt the way to go about asking for features in ROM's and no one is going to "contact you" when something is in development.
That being said I replied to your stuff in bold in the quote. That being said I highly doubt you will be satisfied with this device based on your demands and recommend looking for a device like the One Plus One or a Nexus that has a lot of what you want.
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1. I do realize a lot of this stuff is not possible and might take a LONG time to develop.
2. You don't have to burst my bubble, I know it's unlikely. However, I was just feeling creative and wanted to put out my wishlist if all of this were possible
3. When I say AOSP, I really mean AOSP based. I thought incorporating the fingerprint sensor would be fairly easy? just create a few API's with Kernel??
4. I have no idea why I said "contact me" I must've been on something lol.
Thanks for the reply btw. Also too, I love the nexus 6 and I would take it over the one plus one any day. However, I will still give into the s6 cuz of da fingerprint and better processor.

Considering most of the things you are asking for will never happen, it is not matter of the "lenght'. i.e: the camera...this request been in demand since the gs3 (my first android device) I doubt it is going to change anytime soon.
Finger print for touchwiz is the same as camera for touchwiz...
Great way to provide inputs to by giving a "how" on how to do things for what you are requesting. Can always start a "how" in the development section for group projects when it become available for the s6.

reyjkl said:
just create a few API's with Kernel??
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Dude you gotta get these ideas out there... PM all the recognized devs on xda fast. This is way bigger than just the S6

incuvolta said:
Dude you gotta get these ideas out there... PM all the recognized devs on xda fast. This is way bigger than just the S6
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I'm guessing this is sarcasm but I usually can't get the sarcasm straight from context. Is it?

Yes Sheldon. It is sarcasm.

Shall we do a petition for the EMUI interface?

Why shall we do a petition for EMUI interface?
I love huawei and their EMUI. But, there must be lots of improvements so they can get the TOP 1 best custom interface for Android.
1.Let us remove what we want.
Yes. Bloatware is a pain in our heads. For both performance and battery. If we had the opportunity to remove the Google apps that are installed in the system, then it would be a great thing.
2.Equal features on all phones.
I like the features included in EMUI, but there are different features for different phones. For example we don't have the smart touch, some screenshot gestures, night shot and so on. Having them is a MUST DO. And yes, our phone does SUPPORT all the features from other phones (except hardware-related features like honor 8's clickable fingerprint)
3.Optimizations
Emui 5.x already has some performance and battery tweaks already included in the software. But there aren:t enough. We still suffer of battery drain due to bad optimization of the Android System, which can be fixable very easily.
4.Listen to their customers
We all want something, but Huawei doesn't listen. It was a pain that they removed the firmware links from their websites (which it was a bit good to prevent fake software sd card updates), at least to listen to us. I know they want to become a top company, but if they listen to us and give us what we want in the EMUI or phones (as long as they can too.), Then that will be very awesome. Equal features and equal software (like how Apple does to their phones) then Huawei will beat Apple for sure in terms of software "updates"
So, who's with me?

Johnny TDN said:
Why shall we do a petition for EMUI interface?
I love huawei and their EMUI. But, there must be lots of improvements so they can get the TOP 1 best custom interface for Android.
1.Let us remove what we want.
Yes. Bloatware is a pain in our heads. For both performance and battery. If we had the opportunity to remove the Google apps that are installed in the system, then it would be a great thing.
2.Equal features on all phones.
I like the features included in EMUI, but there are different features for different phones. For example we don't have the smart touch, some screenshot gestures, night shot and so on. Having them is a MUST DO. And yes, our phone does SUPPORT all the features from other phones (except hardware-related features like honor 8's clickable fingerprint)
3.Optimizations
Emui 5.x already has some performance and battery tweaks already included in the software. But there aren:t enough. We still suffer of battery drain due to bad optimization of the Android System, which can be fixable very easily.
4.Listen to their customers
We all want something, but Huawei doesn't listen. It was a pain that they removed the firmware links from their websites (which it was a bit good to prevent fake software sd card updates), at least to listen to us. I know they want to become a top company, but if they listen to us and give us what we want in the EMUI or phones (as long as they can too.), Then that will be very awesome. Equal features and equal software (like how Apple does to their phones) then Huawei will beat Apple for sure in terms of software "updates"
So, who's with me?
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Huawei is not going to change anything just because a small group of android modders wants to have more control of their phone.
Just remember that P9 Lite's main consumer target were regular people which don't care about this.
They just want a working phone. Nothing more.

dariomrk said:
Huawei is not going to change anything just because a small group of android modders wants to have more control of their phone.
Just remember that P9 Lite's main consumer target were regular people which don't care about this.
They just want a working phone. Nothing more.
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You have my point.
But still, they promised that they will fix this and that, nothing happened.
One day, they will leave this phone on 7.0 and never ever get updates. I bet that.

Johnny TDN said:
You have my point.
But still, they promised that they will fix this and that, nothing happened.
One day, they will leave this phone on 7.0 and never ever get updates. I bet that.
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At least they released EMUI 5 kernel sources;
Anyway make a petition, you have my support but still i don't think that this will lead to anywhere.

dariomrk said:
At least they released EMUI 5 kernel sources;
Anyway make a petition, you have my support but still i don't think that this will lead to anywhere.
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At least we tried.
I mean, i love Huawei since i moved from TouchWiz lag to EMUI....i thought that maybe Huawei will be "community free" (listening to the customers too)
Anyway, how can i do a petition?

Johnny TDN said:
At least we tried.
I mean, i love Huawei since i moved from TouchWiz lag to EMUI....i thought that maybe Huawei will be "community free" (listening to the customers too)
Anyway, how can i do a petition?
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Idk, It's your idea anyway

you should rethink what you've posted!
They can't do anything about google apps for example because they are forced to implement them on a system basis - e.g. play store, play services, google photos and so on. Additionally the newer phones just have a different feature set because they run their latest EMUI version - which in my opinion - is thought out pretty well as they have to deliver a premium feel to the end user.. Why a company this big focusses on it? Well, they are pushing their last-available-smartphone-sales through it. Btw, did you ever thought about a hardware dependent feature set? Like those the screen supports and so on.
I have only one addition to your list - project treble for upcomming oreo release (which p9 lite SHOULD get aswell as the Honor 6x receives it by the end of the year).
Regards

OldDroid said:
you should rethink what you've posted!
They can't do anything about google apps for example because they are forced to implement them on a system basis - e.g. play store, play services, google photos and so on. Additionally the newer phones just have a different feature set because they run their latest EMUI version - which in my opinion - is thought out pretty well as they have to deliver a premium feel to the end user.. Why a company this big focusses on it? Well, they are pushing their last-available-smartphone-sales through it. Btw, did you ever thought about a hardware dependent feature set? Like those the screen supports and so on.
I have only one addition to your list - project treble for upcomming oreo release (which p9 lite SHOULD get aswell as the Honor 6x receives it by the end of the year).
Regards
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True. Oreo is much important right now.
But still, there are DISABLED USEDFULL features like Night shot, private space, app twin and those gestures from build.prop file. That pissed me off a bit... Because those features work 100% with no issues.

It's back to Oreo and this time it's forever

I've given Samsung (and Google) the benefit of the doubt and tried their new phone and new UI software. I returned my S10 and reverted my Note 9 back to Oreo. Now life makes sense again for me. I'm also someone who's guilty of impulse purchases. I'm trying to be better about that. Mobile tech can be addicting.
The new UI on the Note 9 feels like it's been crippled. Like Google, and to a certain extent Samsung, are inching closer and closer to Apple territory. Meaning that they are removing more and more features away and pushing users into tighter boxes. Call recording apps, theming apps, greater control over GPS settings, greater control over camera settings, easier to understand camera settings, and just other faux improvements that leave users feeling like they're using a half-baked OS.
The S10 was fine enough but without the features and apps that I've grown to dearly depend on my Oreo Note 9, I couldn't live with it. It makes me realize that there is no hope that such apps and features will ever make it to the new Note later this fall either.
Not without root. And that means that unless I want to keep this Oreo Note 9 for the rest of its life, any future Note device will have to be Exynos. Which makes me a bit disappointed because the SD chips have been bringing some great features to these phones. But we will never be able to count on reliable unlocking of SD Samsung phones here in North America so from now on it's Exynos for me because I will be relying on root access to get the features that I want but more importantly the features that I NEED.
I'm curious if anyone else feels the same way about this. About Oreo and the direction Samsung and Google are moving from here. I just wish we could stay on Oreo and continue getting security patches and other bug fixes along the way. Without being forced to switch to Pie. I will never understand this need among some users to quickly update to the latest OS version. They feel content to live with bugs in order to use some new features? An OS that's not fully baked in? That's good for them? I don't get it. Not that I'm supposed to get it. Just saying, it seems irrational to me. But that's me.
Something needs to change. Samsung and other parties need to come together and agree to let us unlock and root our phones. If we buy these phones outright, unlocked and outside of carriers, we deserve to do whatever we want with them. And that includes unlocking and rooting. Something needs to give. For a while there, Samsung seemed to be looking at the things people were rooting for and introducing them on their next phones.
But now, it feels like they've moving in the opposite direction. I fear that Samsung will no longer be known as the manufacture that gives its users more features than they need and more options to customize their smartphone experience. It feels as if those days are now over and we will be forced to just accept whatever Samsung gives us out of the box.
Not unlike what iPhone users are forced to do with their smartphone experience.
Long live Oreo! Long live the Note 9!

Why not sell it and get n9600? Snapdragon and rootable.
Best of both worlds.

roaduardo said:
I've given Samsung (and Google) the benefit of the doubt and tried their new phone and new UI software. I returned my S10 and reverted my Note 9 back to Oreo. Now life makes sense again for me. I'm also someone who's guilty of impulse purchases. I'm trying to be better about that. Mobile tech can be addicting.
The new UI on the Note 9 feels like it's been crippled. Like Google, and to a certain extent Samsung, are inching closer and closer to Apple territory. Meaning that they are removing more and more features away and pushing users into tighter boxes. Call recording apps, theming apps, greater control over GPS settings, greater control over camera settings, easier to understand camera settings, and just other faux improvements that leave users feeling like they're using a half-baked OS.
The S10 was fine enough but without the features and apps that I've grown to dearly depend on my Oreo Note 9, I couldn't live with it. It makes me realize that there is no hope that such apps and features will ever make it to the new Note later this fall either.
Not without root. And that means that unless I want to keep this Oreo Note 9 for the rest of its life, any future Note device will have to be Exynos. Which makes me a bit disappointed because the SD chips have been bringing some great features to these phones. But we will never be able to count on reliable unlocking of SD Samsung phones here in North America so from now on it's Exynos for me because I will be relying on root access to get the features that I want but more importantly the features that I NEED.
I'm curious if anyone else feels the same way about this. About Oreo and the direction Samsung and Google are moving from here. I just wish we could stay on Oreo and continue getting security patches and other bug fixes along the way. Without being forced to switch to Pie. I will never understand this need among some users to quickly update to the latest OS version. They feel content to live with bugs in order to use some new features? An OS that's not fully baked in? That's good for them? I don't get it. Not that I'm supposed to get it. Just saying, it seems irrational to me. But that's me.
Something needs to change. Samsung and other parties need to come together and agree to let us unlock and root our phones. If we buy these phones outright, unlocked and outside of carriers, we deserve to do whatever we want with them. And that includes unlocking and rooting. Something needs to give. For a while there, Samsung seemed to be looking at the things people were rooting for and introducing them on their next phones.
But now, it feels like they've moving in the opposite direction. I fear that Samsung will no longer be known as the manufacture that gives its users more features than they need and more options to customize their smartphone experience. It feels as if those days are now over and we will be forced to just accept whatever Samsung gives us out of the box.
Not unlike what iPhone users are forced to do with their smartphone experience.
Long live Oreo! Long live the Note 9!
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so what apps made it so that you had to go back to a device supporting oreo?

bober10113 said:
so what apps made it so that you had to go back to a device supporting oreo?
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Call recording being the biggest one and overall smaller ways in which the OS is laid out. Like with the camera settings and notifications work.

Not with you on this.
I quite like OneUI.

HuStLaZ said:
Not with you on this.
I quite like OneUI.
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That's fair. We're all different.

Bought my Note 9 when One UI was just released. Had a lot of trouble with several key apps (banking, mail, weather and some news apps). Had crashes and graphical glitches almost every day and every week a "fatal" crash were I had to restart my Note with a button combination. I was thinking about returning my device. Kept is and installed the latest Oreo 8.1 version. Almost all software problems are gone. For 3 days not a single crash. Keep my fingers crossed

dont know if you guys side loaded the beta update but on a fresh pie install, not updated, i dont have any of the issues reported.

i have to say my experience is totally different. I think OneUI is fantastic and a major differentiator. i think samsung has taken the OS and built on it. I am a phone junkie and regularly look to buy other devices, but this is the first time im sticking to Samsung not only because of HW but now SW.

I'm a happy camper with One UI. Not gonna lie, I loved how Oreo on note 9 looked. But I'm guilty of upgrading phones twice every year. A fresh look gives me no reason to upgrade to S10 lol. I'll wait till note 10 comes out.

bober10113 said:
dont know if you guys side loaded the beta update but on a fresh pie install, not updated, i dont have any of the issues reported.
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No. My Note upgraded to Pie/One UI immediately after talking it out of the box and setting it up. My user experience with the Note is One Ui only. I've factory reset (deleting data and settings) my Note four times (installed a different set of apps every time) and didn't use a backup (coming from an iPhone) so it was a 100% fresh install. The problems started the same evening, the first crash was within a few hours. With Oreo i'm missing a few features (night mode and lift to wake for example). One Ui is definitely looking more polished.

Friendly reminder, the only constant in the technology world is change. Anyway, Pie takes some getting use to and my biggest complaint is notifications have stopped while my screen is off. I still get calls and texts, but everything else stopped. Android called it Doze and change is inevitable.
https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby

I like one UI a lot. It's very modern and fluid. I don't have many issues with it. I've disabled updates, though, hoping for root to come soon so I can flash even better customized one UI roms and remove the crap they include permanently instead of just disabling it. That way the phone is lighter and the processor wouldn't have to work as hard.
I get your points, though.

I think I'll go back to Oreo also can't stand not to have my notifications play through the phone when connected to Bluetooth miss way to many notifications. I have to turn off media playback on bluetooth to have notifications play on the phone, and when playing Spotify the notifications interrupt the music hate that.

bligui said:
I think I'll go back to Oreo also can't stand not to have my notifications play through the phone when connected to Bluetooth miss way to many notifications. I have to turn off media playback on bluetooth to have notifications play on the phone, and when playing Spotify the notifications interrupt the music hate that.
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Finally someone else that has this issue. I thought I was only one..lol
SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE

butchieboy said:
Finally someone else that has this issue. I thought I was only one..lol
SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE
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I did, too, but never paid attention to it and I like it actually. I think it was done purposely so people don't text or check their social media and drive. Phone calls come through no problem.
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butchieboy said:
Finally someone else that has this issue. I thought I was only one..lol
SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE
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And you of all people shouldn't be texting while driving, and you know why. [emoji23]

K-alz said:
I did, too, but never paid attention to it and I like it actually. I think it was done purposely so people don't text or check their social media and drive. Phone calls come through no problem.
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And you of all people shouldn't be texting while driving, and you know why. [emoji23]
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Lol...I dont kind sir.
SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE

butchieboy said:
Lol...I dont kind sir.
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Mhm. I "believe" you. Then why were you concerned about the notifications going through your BT in the car? Haha

To each their own. I'm too old and way too busy now to deal with rooting, customizing, etc. Used to spend hours on it when I was in my 20s, the results were always disappointing. I have only a few requirents. The phone has to be secure (my corporate access apps and email account will not work on a rooted phone), reliable, and I have to have a way to set default apps. Camera has to be good but I don't care much for too many camera features or pro mode. I have a full frame dslr for when I want to take real pictures. And I really don't give a crap about filters. Never used them and never will.
So, apple is out of the question mainly because I can't set default apps (open Google maps instead of Apple maps for example), but I honestly think they are overpriced for substandard tech. And I can't think of any iPhone that comes close to the battery life of the note 9.
In summary, looking back, I don't miss having an unlocked bootloader phone. In fact, I can't think of a single good reason to root anymore. None of the custom roms or kernels are actually an improvement, and in my experience, they never have been. I actually like the new android.

sputnik767 said:
To each their own. I'm too old and way too busy now to deal with rooting, customizing, etc. Used to spend hours on it when I was in my 20s, the results were always disappointing. I have only a few requirents. The phone has to be secure (my corporate access apps and email account will not work on a rooted phone), reliable, and I have to have a way to set default apps. Camera has to be good but I don't care much for too many camera features or pro mode. I have a full frame dslr for when I want to take real pictures. And I really don't give a crap about filters. Never used them and never will.
So, apple is out of the question mainly because I can't set default apps (open Google maps instead of Apple maps for example), but I honestly think they are overpriced for substandard tech. And I can't think of any iPhone that comes close to the battery life of the note 9.
In summary, looking back, I don't miss having an unlocked bootloader phone. In fact, I can't think of a single good reason to root anymore. None of the custom roms or kernels are actually an improvement, and in my experience, they never have been. I actually like the new android.
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Not disagreeing with you but there certainly are still some good reasons (in my opinion) for rooting.
Disabled high volume warrning with headphones (I personally found this very annoying)
System wide ad blocking
More efficient kernels
Use of Samsung's built-in call recorder
Battery charge limiting
The option to install AOSP based ROMs (Although the lack of HWC means battery life is poor)
Biometric unlock after reboot
More theming options
Use any app with the dual app tool

What is the latest stock status of LG V40?

What is the latest stock status of LG V40?
(a pure stock device that has never been rooted, never custom rommed, and updated only trough OTA)
I mean:
- which version of Android does it have?
- what is the latest security patch? ex. March 2019?
- is the user interface just like in V30 with Android 8? (a user interface is like in samsung - TouchWizz, SamsungExperiance, One UI)
- was there ever a change of user interface?

Untouched, pure stock, updated on Verizon, in the US. Whatever launcher comes next, I'm sticking with Nova!
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Untouched, pure stock, updated on Verizon, in the US. Whatever launcher comes next, I'm sticking with Nova! View attachment 4735851
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But can You tell me is it the same user interface as in V30 Oreo? How to check it?

androidbadboy said:
But can You tell me is it the same user interface as in V30 Oreo? How to check it?
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I think youtube reviews would give you a good idea and you can compare yourself by watching it.
Many people here may not have had v30 before.

I dare say, most likely. I never gave it a try, though. Nova a long favorite!
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Not the same as V30. Same as the G7. LG UX 7.0.
Different icons, theme, and upgraded stock apps.

onslaught86 said:
Not the same as V30. Same as the G7. LG UX 7.0.
Different icons, theme, and upgraded stock apps.
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THANK YOU ALL FOR REPLY - ALL GET 1+ THANKS
1. The V30 and V40 user interface is called Nova?
2. I like V30 for NOT being flooded with a lot of options. I like auto everything or minimum settings/options. Is V40 in that way closer to V30 (which has little options) or does it have huge amount of thiungs that can be set? (maybe how much more #)

onslaught86 said:
Not the same as V30. Same as the G7. LG UX 7.0.
Different icons, theme, and upgraded stock apps.
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Lg g8 has ux 8.0 and skin is very beautiful

androidbadboy said:
THANK YOU ALL FOR REPLY - ALL GET 1+ THANKS
1. The V30 and V40 user interface is called Nova?
2. I like V30 for NOT being flooded with a lot of options. I like auto everything or minimum settings/options. Is V40 in that way closer to V30 (which has little options) or does it have huge amount of thiungs that can be set? (maybe how much more #)
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It's still just called LG UX in official documentation.
LG haven't pulled a Samsung or a Huawei. The V40/G7 software really only differs from the V30 in small ways, like the icon pack/theme and upgraded stock apps I mentioned. There are more options for the AoD including a colour picker (which has since been delivered to the V30 with an update in January 2019), the notch background options, the Knock Code entry field is bigger, the wallpaper settings are easier to access, and there's a revamped swipe-up app drawer option. I am a big fan of LG's UX. You won't be missing anything in software from the V30, and what is new is welcome. Themes can now enable the Google Feed if that's of interest.
The new Pie-based UX on the G8 series is nice too.
All phones need taming, no matter the brand, but I find there are fewer steps to get an LG device the way I like it than the myriad of should-be-on-by-default/should-be-off-by-default settings in Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi et al. For some reason (likely the same reasons Samsung has for doing it) the V40 is set to FHD+ out of the box but that's about it over the V30.

onslaught86 said:
It's still just called LG UX in official documentation.
LG haven't pulled a Samsung or a Huawei. The V40/G7 software really only differs from the V30 in small ways, like the icon pack/theme and upgraded stock apps I mentioned. There are more options for the AoD including a colour picker (which has since been delivered to the V30 with an update in January 2019), the notch background options, the Knock Code entry field is bigger, the wallpaper settings are easier to access, and there's a revamped swipe-up app drawer option. I am a big fan of LG's UX. You won't be missing anything in software from the V30, and what is new is welcome. Themes can now enable the Google Feed if that's of interest.
The new Pie-based UX on the G8 series is nice too.
All phones need taming, no matter the brand, but I find there are fewer steps to get an LG device the way I like it than the myriad of should-be-on-by-default/should-be-off-by-default settings in Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi et al. For some reason (likely the same reasons Samsung has for doing it) the V40 is set to FHD+ out of the box but that's about it over the V30.
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My English is bad so please forgive me if I ask when You mention Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi do You have on Your mind the tons of options a user has to set in a new phone?

androidbadboy said:
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My English is bad so please forgive me if I ask when You mention Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi do You have on Your mind the tons of options a user has to set in a new phone?
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Yes.
There is a difference between many settings that can be changed if you like (choice) and many settings that must be changed for a good experience (design).
The location of those settings and the ease with which they are changed matter also - sometimes a key setting is four or five menus deep on other brands. Samsung used to be bad at this and have improved, Huawei are now the worst offender. System-wide dark mode on Huawei OLED devices is called "Darken interface colours" under settings/battery for example.
For LG the most useful hidden features are rearranging/adding to the navigation buttons, and changing the "swipe to search" on the homescreen from slow "personal" results to fast "full Google search" but Google have broken this last one in their redesign to the Google app.

onslaught86 said:
Yes.
There is a difference between many settings that can be changed if you like (choice) and many settings that must be changed for a good experience (design).
The location of those settings and the ease with which they are changed matter also - sometimes a key setting is four or five menus deep on other brands. Samsung used to be bad at this and have improved, Huawei are now the worst offender. System-wide dark mode on Huawei OLED devices is called "Darken interface colours" under settings/battery for example.
For LG the most useful hidden features are rearranging/adding to the navigation buttons, and changing the "swipe to search" on the homescreen from slow "personal" results to fast "full Google search" but Google have broken this last one in their redesign to the Google app.
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Thanks again,
so may I ask a bold question like...... Is LG the best at producing simple-settings phones in terms of amount, deep, ease etc. Which other brand is close to LG in the simpleness (excluding Iphone of course)?

androidbadboy said:
Thanks again,
so may I ask a bold question like...... Is LG the best at producing simple-settings phones in terms of amount, deep, ease etc. Which other brand is close to LG in the simpleness (excluding Iphone of course)?
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No, but I don't think there is an objective best at this.
Everyone's needs and preferences are different. What works for you may not work for me, what is simple and easy for you may be complex and frustrating for me. Thankfully the market for smartphones is diverse and competitive, there is a lot of choice.
Evaluating smartphones and their software is part of my work. LG offers me the combination of features and hardware I find most pleasing and useful. Others have their strengths too.
If your priority is as few settings as possible, take a look at Moto/Nokia/Pixel/other vanilla derivatives or iOS. All phones can be used straight out of the box, it is up to you whether that experience is one you prefer or enjoy - Google Photos as the only gallery app for example. LG offers a feature-complete experience similar to Samsung and Huawei, it's just less intrusive and gets out of the way.
Meizu's Flyme and Oppo's ColorOS are simplified. Unfortunately they deviate so far from Android conventions that they are unpleasant to use as features do not work as expected or have been removed entirely.

onslaught86 said:
No, but I don't think there is an objective best at this.
Everyone's needs and preferences are different. What works for you may not work for me, what is simple and easy for you may be complex and frustrating for me. Thankfully the market for smartphones is diverse and competitive, there is a lot of choice.
Evaluating smartphones and their software is part of my work. LG offers me the combination of features and hardware I find most pleasing and useful. Others have their strengths too.
If your priority is as few settings as possible, take a look at Moto/Nokia/Pixel/other vanilla derivatives or iOS. All phones can be used straight out of the box, it is up to you whether that experience is one you prefer or enjoy - Google Photos as the only gallery app for example. LG offers a feature-complete experience similar to Samsung and Huawei, it's just less intrusive and gets out of the way.
Meizu's Flyme and Oppo's ColorOS are simplified. Unfortunately they deviate so far from Android conventions that they are unpleasant to use as features do not work as expected or have been removed entirely.
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1. "Moto/Nokia/Pixel/" - You mean Andoid One phones?
2. "other vanilla derivatives" - what does it mean? what is vanilla?
3. Perhaps I forgot to mention that iOS is out of the question for me.

Oneplus 3T got first beta of PIE..... ONEPLUS 3T..... And we are here with the phone that they stop carrying about months after release and released new bunch of phones already like v40 never happened. I'm disappointed.

Probably brought the Droid curse with me, when I crossed over into LG. Sorry, folks. [emoji53]
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Oneplus 3T got first beta of PIE..... ONEPLUS 3T..... And we are here with the phone that they stop carrying about months after release and released new bunch of phones already like v40 never happened. I'm disappointed.
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Excuse me dude, but what the heck are You trying to say My English is bad - sorry.

androidbadboy said:
1. "Moto/Nokia/Pixel/" - You mean Andoid One phones?
2. "other vanilla derivatives" - what does it mean? what is vanilla?
3. Perhaps I forgot to mention that iOS is out of the question for me.
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Not Android One specifically. There is no such thing as 'pure' Android anymore and never really was, they are all slightly different even between Android One-branded devices. Pixel Android is different from Moto Android is different from Nokia Android. Instead you can group different versions of Android together to get an idea of what they have in common. Moto, Google, and Nokia are all very similar, more in common than not. Vanilla. Bare bones, you need to download a lot of third party apps to get the functionality that's present out of the box from others. If you want fewer options, these are the ones to go for. However, you may find yourself missing some features or apps if you're used to other brands.
Sony and OnePlus are similar as well but they have additional out of box functionality, like dedicated gallery apps instead of just Google Photos.
Then there are the more feature-complete experiences. Samsung, Huawei, LG, Xiaomi. Everything you need out of the box, just add the core third party apps. Can customise more if you need to. Lots of features but they're optional. You get a complete package. This is what most people who aren't smartphone enthusiasts prefer.
Lastly there are the wildly divergent versions like ColorOS and Flyme. Xiaomi's MIUI, Samsung's One UI, and Huawei's EMUI are also quite far removed from the more vanilla versions, but Oppo's ColorOS and Meizu's Flyme are a step beyond. This is because of the Great Firewall in China, all Google services are blocked and local equivalents exist to replace them, along with other localised features relevant to that market. Xiaomi and Huawei do a good job of making a global version that behaves more like other global Android phones, Oppo and Meizu not so much. ColorOS and Flyme will not behave as expected and break/change some basic elements like the way notifications work.
I like LG for the unique features and because it gets out of the way. Samsung's software is full of dark patterns designed to lock you in, and still has lots of questionable functions like Bixby and a Places feature in the dialer. Huawei's is good, but it has gone backwards in the last version. OnePlus is good, Xiaomi is good, both have a lot of options and OnePlus is better 'out of the box'. What you prefer will depend on your specific needs and preferences.

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Not Android One specifically. There is no such thing as 'pure' Android anymore and never really was, they are all slightly different even between Android One-branded devices. Pixel Android is different from Moto Android is different from Nokia Android. Instead you can group different versions of Android together to get an idea of what they have in common. Moto, Google, and Nokia are all very similar, more in common than not. Vanilla. Bare bones, you need to download a lot of third party apps to get the functionality that's present out of the box from others. If you want fewer options, these are the ones to go for. However, you may find yourself missing some features or apps if you're used to other brands.
Sony and OnePlus are similar as well but they have additional out of box functionality, like dedicated gallery apps instead of just Google Photos.
Then there are the more feature-complete experiences. Samsung, Huawei, LG, Xiaomi. Everything you need out of the box, just add the core third party apps. Can customise more if you need to. Lots of features but they're optional. You get a complete package. This is what most people who aren't smartphone enthusiasts prefer.
Lastly there are the wildly divergent versions like ColorOS and Flyme. Xiaomi's MIUI, Samsung's One UI, and Huawei's EMUI are also quite far removed from the more vanilla versions, but Oppo's ColorOS and Meizu's Flyme are a step beyond. This is because of the Great Firewall in China, all Google services are blocked and local equivalents exist to replace them, along with other localised features relevant to that market. Xiaomi and Huawei do a good job of making a global version that behaves more like other global Android phones, Oppo and Meizu not so much. ColorOS and Flyme will not behave as expected and break/change some basic elements like the way notifications work.
I like LG for the unique features and because it gets out of the way. Samsung's software is full of dark patterns designed to lock you in, and still has lots of questionable functions like Bixby and a Places feature in the dialer. Huawei's is good, but it has gone backwards in the last version. OnePlus is good, Xiaomi is good, both have a lot of options and OnePlus is better 'out of the box'. What you prefer will depend on your specific needs and preferences.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An overwhelming reply, fully loaded with info
+1 THANK YOU!!!!
1. I can see in Your sig that You've gone trough pretty much every major category of mobile devices.
2. Did You enjoy IPhones? Why did You abandon them since you' were upgrading to newer hardware versions?
3. What is that vanilla?
4. Can You share your opinon, pros and cons of Huawei Mate 20 Pro cause I read everywhere that it is the best phone right now and it hasn't got any bad opinions?
5. What is it in LG V40 that makes You stay with that phone?
6. I have a huge problem with LG V30, I have left only 3 days to test it. Please give me advice what shall I test to make a final decision: staying with the device or not?
7. Thank You for being here with us

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An overwhelming reply, fully loaded with info
+1 THANK YOU!!!!
1. I can see in Your sig that You've gone trough pretty much every major category of mobile devices.
2. Did You enjoy IPhones? Why did You abandon them since you' were upgrading to newer hardware versions?
3. What is that vanilla?
4. Can You share your opinon, pros and cons of Huawei Mate 20 Pro cause I read everywhere that it is the best phone right now and it hasn't got any bad opinions?
5. What is it in LG V40 that makes You stay with that phone?
6. I have a huge problem with LG V30, I have left only 3 days to test it. Please give me advice what shall I test to make a final decision: staying with the device or not?
7. Thank You for being here with us
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Happy to help. I work in the industry and am always interested in sharing what I can.
I have used many more phones than are listed in my signature, those are just the ones I have personally owned and used as daily drivers for long periods of time. It may not be up to date, I jumped from V30 to Mate 20 Pro and now to V40.
On iPhones: After Samsung's poor optimisation of software for the large screens of Galaxy Notes + apps of the time being poorly optimised for large screens as well, Apple finally made an iPhone that was large enough for my needs in the 6 Plus. I have owned 6 Plus, 6s Plus, 7 Plus, and 8 Plus, and I have spent enough time with the X/XS Max/XR to know they are not for me. The grass was not greener, just different.
iPhones and iOS are fine. They are functional and reliable, good at doing what things iOS is set up to do well. They are a good choice for people who do not want to spend too much time thinking about or researching their phones, which is fair. iOS is not set up to do many other things well, and both hardware and software iterate slowly. Web browsing is a great example. Apple's professors are exceptionally good and the browsing experience in Safari is very fast and enjoyable, however Safari itself has a dated UI/UX that lags far behind equivalents on Android like Samsung's internet browser. You can use other browsers on iOS, but they are crippled in comparison to Safari, and offer a poor experience - you still cannot set default apps either. Third party keyboards are a mess. Apple's cameras have been left far behind their competition. Their industrial design is dated and inelegant. There are benefits to being in Apple's ecosystem, but the drawbacks are too many, and most notably, the price of entry is far too high. It is not worth it for what you get, especially if you're outside the US and iMessage is meaningless + there are much higher prices and zero warranty/service differentiation.
Google updates core Android apps all the time. Apple updates core iOS apps very slowly. For all the press Apple get for iOS updates, they are slow to make meaningful changes. When there is a major bug, it is difficult or impossible to fix yourself or roll back, you must wait for Apple to patch in weeks or months or longer. iOS 11 was a disaster and ruined my 7 Plus.
I may return to iOS if it gets the massive overhaul it sorely needs, especially to the home screen/launcher experience, and finally gets haptic feedback in the keyboard (Gboard on iOS has just added haptics, although they are poor). I left because Apple has been left behind. It is a good platform, you just need to know what you're getting into.
Vanilla = plain, basic, default. The closest you can buy on a commercial device to AOSP. Now that Google has abstracted so much of Android into Google Services, the base version of Android matters less than ever before, and the vast majority of innovation has been in 'skins' for the last 2-3+ years.
I enjoy and recommend the Mate 20 Pro. It has excellent battery life, ridiculously fast 40W charging that can change how you use a phone (no need to charge overnight when it goes from 30% to 75% in under 15mins), and some very clever camera tricks. The automatic portrait mode is one of the best features, there is no need to manually select portrait mode as the camera will jump straight to portrait by itself when it detects a face. Speaking of faces, Mate 20 Pro has real 3D face unlock, very welcome as I cannot stand the slow and poor under-screen fingerprint sensors (including the Mate 20 Pro's). Kirin 980 is an excellent chipset too. The Mate 20 Pro was the only thing which made me shift from the V30, which remains my favourite phone I've ever used, finally displacing the HTC HD2.
The problems with the Mate 20 Pro for me lie firstly in software - EMUI 9 is not as good or polished as EMUI 5/8, with bugs and jank, and it has now been locked down considerably. First by the region of the unit you buy, and then further by the SIM card inserted. This will determine what software builds you receive and when. It can also break things if you travel and put a different SIM in and receive an update which clashes with the region software to break CTS/SafetyNet/Google Pay. EMUI 9.1 on the P30 series fixes many issues, although it is uncertain if or when this will come to the Mate 20 Pro. You cannot easily switch regions or rebrand either.
In hardware, the screen is not the best, and critically for my needs the haptic feedback is very poor. I spend a lot of time writing email and the like from my phone as it is a work tool as well, and having been spoiled by the advanced haptics in the V30 and several Meizu phones, anything else is bad in comparison. I don't like Samsung's haptics either, and Apple's aren't used in the keyboard. LG's haptics are incredible, and integrating them throughout the UI/UX makes their phones delightful to use.
I missed several other features of the V30, including the excellent Always On Display, the seven-icon dock, double tap to sleep/wake, the thin/light design, the Quad DAC, and the manual camera. The V40 is really only a minor improvement over the V30, with a better/taller screen, boombox speaker, better cameras with telephoto, additional front camera, and SD845. Battery life is thankfully still very good, the haptics are still brilliant. I feel the V30's ergonomics were better than the V40's. The V30 is amazing and should go down in history as one of the most underrated phones to date.
I have specifically chosen the V40 as it delivers several key features that the Mate 20 Pro did not.
As for what else you should test out, that depends what you've tried so far and what you're looking for. How long you will use and keep your phone, and what your budget is, and what is available for you to buy. The V30 is great. The V40 is the V30 with a few improvements. The V50 launches in Korea this month and I would sorely like to own one as it has 855, 4000mAh battery, and LG UX with Pie out of the box - although the larger battery will make it much heavier.
The LG G8s is coming, and I like it more than the smaller G8. OnePlus will have something new soon for sure. Huawei's P30 Pro is compelling, although I prefer Mate 20 Pro for 1440p and 3D face unlock. Xiaomi are good and cheap. Moto are doing interesting things this year. Maybe the Galaxy Note 10 will be good. Etc etc. There is always something new on the horizon.

General ABOUT ALL THE PROBLEM YOU HAD/HAVE

Im so tired to read all the comment about bad things about this phone , i mean i personally doesnt habe the perfect phone , i came with some problems too but then i realize u will NEVER find this phone good enough when you only looking for it mistakes . Dude u should be happy own this phone , since the others can only dream for it . No phone is perfect ? You think iphone is better ? Or any other brand ? Well please use the others , and im sure you will do the same , you will found that all phones have their own problem , probably to make the phone perfect for you , you just have to accept what it is and be happy with it . Or buy a new phone that you consider better , and lets see did u complain too or no .
imo phone will get better in updates

As with everything else from phones to cars you'll only find people posting about the faults, you never get people posting about the good things. That's fine though.

Get better with updates?
You're in for some surprises.
Like a bad gf updates just keep giving

Well, tbh there's no such thing as perfect in this universe. Everything has flaws, flaws that make it unique.
Considering a phone, i believe, mobile companies tend to provide us with best of their hardware, however they do still lack behind when it comes to software. It may be appealing but it always lack certain features, tweaks, mods.
That is where custom roms comes in place.
We have Resurrection Remix - tweaking at it's extreme.
We have Lineage OS - stability at it's extreme.
For me, my perfect phone would be the flagship phone with a custom rom. What else you want huh? Consider Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G with Ressurection Remix, regardless of the fact that it has such a huge name XD.

I have bad delayed notification problems with my S21 Ultra.

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I have bad delayed notification problems with my S21 Ultra.
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Try disabling -all- power management... destroyer of worlds
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Be careful what apps you limit background data to and -don't- allow background battery usage as well.
It's most likely a settings misconfiguration... play with it.

I share the same feelings with this post. I think that moaning without really looking for any solution is useless.

eleven.co said:
Well, tbh there's no such thing as perfect in this universe. Everything has flaws, flaws that make it unique.
Considering a phone, i believe, mobile companies tend to provide us with best of their hardware, however they do still lack behind when it comes to software. It may be appealing but it always lack certain features, tweaks, mods.
That is where custom roms comes in place.
We have Resurrection Remix - tweaking at it's extreme.
We have Lineage OS - stability at it's extreme.
For me, my perfect phone would be the flagship phone with a custom rom. What else you want huh? Consider Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G with Ressurection Remix, regardless of the fact that it has such a huge name XD.
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Where did you find ressurection and lineage for the s21? :O

babyboy3265 said:
Where did you find ressurection and lineage for the s21? :O
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Lol, there aren't any atm. But, but. They will be in near future. So, you know, it will be really fun.

eleven.co said:
Lol, there aren't any atm. But, but. They will be in near future. So, you know, it will be really fun.
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Yea for sure... Only sadly the cameras wouldn't function at their max potential... Which kinda makes the mentioned roms unnecessary. :/

babyboy3265 said:
Yea for sure... Only sadly the cameras wouldn't function at their max potential... Which kinda makes the mentioned roms unnecessary. :/
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Yea. You are right. They should import the stock camera apps in those roms for that to work.

blackhawk said:
Try disabling -all- power management... destroyer of worlds
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Be careful what apps you limit background data to and -don't- allow background battery usage as well.
It's most likely a settings misconfiguration... play with it.
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Thanks, I've already done of this with no positive results at all.

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Thanks, I've already done of this with no positive results at all.
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Keep playing with it. Took me close to a year to fully sort out my Note 10+.
It runs extremely well now.

I have the perfect smartphone!
Does it have an SD card slot?
Yes!
Is it micro-SD format?
Yes
Does it support up to 1TB of SD memory?
Yes!
Does it support UFS 3.1?
Yes!
Is the SD slot on the bottom of the phone?
Yes! ... ?
Can the SD card be inserted face down?
No...? Why?
Doesn't sound perfect to me. My last phone before my last phone allowed you to insert the SD card upside down!
It's not the phones or the manufacturers, it's us!

Hi guys! I'm a new user of s21 Ultra. My last Android phone was LG G2.
I am using the Snapdragon version. The stock camera, the image it produce has too much contrast and doesn't seem natural to me. I am a hobbyist photographer so I could say what is good or what. And it isn't for me.
My version is up to date. All software update installed. Am i missing something here or it is what it is?

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Hi guys! I'm a new user of s21 Ultra. My last Android phone was LG G2.
I am using the Snapdragon version. The stock camera, the image it produce has too much contrast and doesn't seem natural to me. I am a hobbyist photographer so I could say what is good or what. And it isn't for me.
My version is up to date. All software update installed. Am i missing something here or it is what it is?
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Check your display settings>screen mode.
Not sure what your options are but the "natural" setting produces truer rendering.
The vivid mode looks way oversaturated.
You may have more options in Developer options but probably not.

blackhawk said:
Check your display settings>screen mode.
Not sure what your options are but the "natural" setting produces truer rendering.
The vivid mode looks way oversaturated.
You may have more options in Developer options but probably not.
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Hello, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, i am only using the "Natural" option. There is just too much noise on the image even though there is enough light not to force the phone to use high ISO.

marshygeek said:
Hello, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, i am only using the "Natural" option. There is just too much noise on the image even though there is enough light not to force the phone to use high ISO.
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Try resetting camera data and clearing system cache.
Any case or cover that could be interfering?
Otherwise it may be a firmware or hardware issue.

SOLUTION TO DELAYED-NOTIFICATIONS:
Enable USB debugging on the phone.
You just unzip the file provided here in your PC: https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
Navigate to it via terminal.
Then, after you connect the phone to your PC, run:
./adb devices
./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
That'll fix it for sure.
I simply cannot recommend Android to my normie friends and family.
Let me restate this: It is not our job to fix Google's bugs.
This is a US-centric view.
If you can't tell: I am a bit aggravated right now.
I could not get my GMail, GCal, and other notifications to come through properly on Pixel 5's Android 11 OR S21 Ultra's Android 11.
This has apparently been an issue that many an Android user suffers through silently -- and, some don't even know that this is happening to them. I guess they're embarrassed to publicly state that their mobile OS is subpar.
When you get an e-mail or if a calendar event reminder is coming up, and even if your phone's screen is OFF/locked: you should get an *instant* notification. No delay whatsoever.
Well, if my screen was off/locked, I wouldn't get these notifications or it would take 10+ minutes to show. But, once I unlocked my phone: boom, notifications. And, sometimes even if my screen wasn't locked, there would be a serious delay or no notification.
After spending loads of time trying to fix this problem, me and my friend finally stumbled upon a solution: ./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
A reboot eliminates this setting modification, by the way.
Do not tell me that instant e-mail notifications are not necessary. Many of us work jobs that require them to be instant.
No end user should ever have to go through this. iPhone users certainly don't go through this.
If Google doesn't care about Android users, then, why should I, as an Android user, care about Android too? Just switch to iPhone, I guess.
Google pays Apple $10bn+ every year and makes better software for iOS than it does for Android.
Just look at the damn widgets that iOS users get.
So, $10bn/year plus the cost of the software developed to cater to iOS users.
This makes Google a simp cuck to Apple, nothing else.
Would Apple ever return this favor? No.
Therefore, Google management is a simp cucked by Apple, nothing more.
We are fools to be using this OS.
If Google is willing to subsidize my iOS software updates and experience to the tune of billions of dollars every single year -- then, why not just switch?
Clearly, my experience has shown me that Android can be cheaper -- if I don't value my time.
Statistic after statistic bears it out: iPhone users are wealthier.
I am tired of being an Android luser -- why should I take on such abuse and neglect by the main author of my mobile OS?
Before you start patronizing me: YES, I tried every other bloody trick in the book to fix this issue.
No end user should ever have to go through this! No end user should have to run adb commands to enable basic functionality.
There are some basic things that modern smartphones should just be able to do: instant notifications, 3rd party camera support, functioning RCS or some other form of E2EE messaging built-in, reliable local backups, a nationwide network of repair facilities, etc.
Android fails on all of these.
iPhone ordered. Glad to leave this Android ghetto behind.
Hey Google, if you have some self-respect: then, instead of paying Apple $10bn an year and doing iOS development, how about you actually work on some basic Android functionality instead?

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I simply cannot recommend Android to my normie friends and family.
No end user should ever have to go through this! No end user should have to run adb commands to enable basic functionality.
There are some basic things that modern smartphones should just be able to do: instant notifications, 3rd party camera support, functioning RCS or some other form of E2EE messaging built-in, reliable local backups, a nationwide network of repair facilities, etc.
Android fails on all of these.
iPhone ordered. Glad to leave this Android ghetto behind.
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Wish you all the best, and a happy life with your new iPhone. Life is short and there's no point putting up with what you hate.
I can see you're really upset about a lot of stuff on Android. You do make some very valid points about what's broken in Android. And I guess any of those can trigger a person ebough to make them switch to iOS. But I think it also has something to do with the user's requirement and not the OS alone. If there was just one "best" OS, nobody would spend more than a thousand dollars on an alternative. It's good to have a choice, and in your case, I'm glad you've exercised that in favor of what you think with add more value to your life.
I've had both iPhones and Android phones for years and both of them offer 90% of the same functions that you'd expect from a good smartphone. The remaining 10% is where you have to make a choice. There are many things to choose from: stability vs experimental features, customisation vs familiarity, update cycle, longevity, resale value, tinker-ability (I know that's not a word ), app support (there are some apps that only support one or the other OS), and the list goes on.
My childhood friend and me bought matching MacBook Pros when we jumped ship into the Apple ecosystem with an iPhone and an iPad. We were "sick" of android, and wanted a taste of the premium life that the fruit promised to offer. Five years on, he still uses all his Apple gadgets and has added a homepod, an apple watch and airpods to his growing apple inventory, whilst upgrading the the latest idevices every two years. Me on the other hand, went from MacOS to a bootcamped Windows installation after a year of purchase and don't even boot into MacOS unless I have to use Final Cut Pro. My workflow goes best with Windows, no matter how good MacOS may be. On the other hand, his doesn't - he's completely iin love with the Apple way, and that's fine.
Same with iOS. I kept the iPhone for 2 years before trading it in for a OnePlus because I hated being told that there was a "correct" way of doing something and only that way was allowed. I couldn't live with an OS that denied me access to my device's filesystem! That, in my opinion is a basic requirement - but this may not be the case for everyone. I like a robust notification system and I've found the Android implementation head and shoulders above what Apple offers. I like third party app stores and the ability to sideload apps on my phone. I can't get that on iOS. And the best part - if I don't like something on Android, it's possible I can fix it with some workaround (like the one you posted). I agree with you that no end user should have to do that, but regardless, it can be done if you want to. No such possibility exists on the other side of the fence. So I chose to live with the shortcomings of Android as opposed to the shortcomings of iOS - simply becasuse the former were more acceptable to me than the latter, not because Android is better or worse that iOS. It just offers me what "I" want in a mobile operating system.
It may be the opposite in the next person's case - someone who values the other side of the equation more, like yourself. That's why it's good to have a choice.
But i sincerely believe that it's not so bad on the Android side of things. It is a very versatile and stable operating system offering a lot of flexibility and customisability on par with a full fleged desktop class operating system. In the end, it boils down to a blend of the OS and the user, not either one in isolation.
I wish you the best with your new device. They are arguably beautiful pieces of technology. Have fun!
Hope to see you back on XDA in the future.