Dear community,
I just bought a Mi 8 online. Unfortunately, after the purchase I read about the new rules Xiaomi made for Global and Chines versions of their phones.
I then checked what I bought and sadly it is Chinese Version with "official Global ROM and OTA updates".
I assume that the bootloader will be unlocked, which ist not so nice for some apps.
But what I am more concerned about is the question if I will brick the phone if I try to upgrade to MIUI 10 Global (which I think I will but please correct me if I'm wrong)
Are there any disadvantages in just using the Chinese ROM (english language would be fine for me)?
So would you think, it will be better to return that device and buy a Global version instead? (I bought on AliExpress and its not delivered yet)
Thank you very much and kind regards,
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You can update to global MIUI 10 from OTA with no problem, i have done the same yesterday. The only thing you can't do is relock your bootloader
Thank you, roccovite, I didn't know that
Do you know if purchases in Google Play also work?
I think I would have to try, if my banking app will work too, even with unlocked boot loader. But I think I haven't locked the boot loader in my Redmi 3 pro neither and everything works.
Hi friends
I want to buy Mi8 in the next few days, In fact, this will be my first experience with Xiaomi devices, and frankly, I'm a bit afraid.
I did many web searches, I found that this problem is very widespread and it happens to many people, and this scared me frankly.
Is there a way to avoid this problem?, can I know if the phone is "really" Global, or Chinese, or -As in your case above- "Chinese Version with official Global ROM and OTA updates" before I purchase it ??, or I really need to purchase and open it to know??
thanks in advance
Dear A7.Rtb,
I think it highly depends on where you're going to buy. For example if you're going to buy on AliExpress, there is one major reseller which labeled all phones accordingly with "Global" or "Global ROM". You just need to look for the phones labeled "Global" and ignore all the others, even tho "Global ROM" is generally cheaper.
Maybe you can also see it on the box the phone came in with but I'm not sure about that
Kind regards,
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Thanks for your answer,bro.
In fact, I'm from Syria, and here we can't buy online, and we don't have any of the purchasing agencies such as AliExpress or Amazon or others. There are only small local shops, which means I can check the box before I buy the phone, I think the phone type must be defined on the box, isn't it ???.
But there is something I didn't fully understand.
Do you mean that the phones labeled "Global ROM" are Chinese version in the first place, but with the global ROM installed on them - as if I purchased the Chinese version and installed the Global ROM from miui.eu on it, for example - ???
I'm really sorry if I bother you, but this phone is priced here about 220000 of the local currency, and this is not cheap at all, so I don't want to venture ...
Thank you again
Dear A7.Rtb,
don't worry, you don't bother me
First thing, I hope you are as safe as possible in Syria, my friend.
As far as I read here in the forum and at Google is that the Chinese version box has only Chinese letters on it and that the global version box has a sticker saying "Global" on it.
But I can't confirm that because I haven't seen it in reality yet.
Yes, many sellers on AliExpress taking the Chinese version, unlock the bootloader, flash the official global ROM and put it back in the box.
I read today about the disadvantages of having an unlocked bootloader. As far as I read, the phone will work fine but Google Pay and some apps like banking and Netflix won't work because they check if the bootloader is unlocked.
Hope I could help you a bit
Have fun and stay safe
Undefined
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Dear A7.Rtb,
don't worry, you don't bother me
First thing, I hope you are as safe as possible in Syria, my friend.
As fast as I read here in the forum and at Google is that the Chinese version box has only Chinese letters on it and that the global version box has a sticker saying "Global" on it.
But I can't confirm that because I haven't seen it in reality yet.
Yes, many sellers on AliExpress taking the Chinese version, unlock the bootloader, flash the official global ROM and put it back in the box.
I read today about the disadvantages of having an unlocked bootloader. As far as I read, the phone will work fine but Google Pay and some apps like banking and Netflix won't work because they check if the bootloader is unlocked.
Hope I could help you a bit
Have fun and stay safe
Undefined
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Thank you for explaining more to me, you helped me so much.
And yes, I'm fine here in Syria, there is no war where I live.
thank you for your kindness, dear friend
undefined999 said:
Dear A7.Rtb,
don't worry, you don't bother me
First thing, I hope you are as safe as possible in Syria, my friend.
As fast as I read here in the forum and at Google is that the Chinese version box has only Chinese letters on it and that the global version box has a sticker saying "Global" on it.
But I can't confirm that because I haven't seen it in reality yet.
Yes, many sellers on AliExpress taking the Chinese version, unlock the bootloader, flash the official global ROM and put it back in the box.
I read today about the disadvantages of having an unlocked bootloader. As far as I read, the phone will work fine but Google Pay and some apps like banking and Netflix won't work because they check if the bootloader is unlocked.
Hope I could help you a bit
Have fun and stay safe
Undefined
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Just love your empathy.
Kudos to people like you still care for people who are different from them without any racism and prejudice
Oh man; this is stressing me just a bit that I can ruin my new phone with one software button. Is it at least unbricka me from that state?
Cause I am buying a Mi9 More details here, idk if this is allowed to post this link
So I imagine I can convert it down the line. Bootloader unlocked isn't an issue for me since I always have my phone's rooted anyway which I need to unlock bootloader for anyway.
This is my first Xiaomi phone so curious, there is an official global ROM and a different one from xiaomi.eu? And one requires flashing tool and other can flash from TWRP?
Thanks in advance
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I'm looking for a version that supports North American bands and from what I understand, the 12gb/512gb one should be the only one that does.
But I also stumbled upon this listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000182288484.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.24fcc18esuf2nD
Which supposedly is 8gb/128gb with North American bands. From what I understand this version shouldn't exist? It also mentions both 2x2 MIMO and 4x4 MIMO so I have no idea which it actually has.
In the description it says: "Tips: CN version, Officail Global Firmare,Mulit Language , Support Google Play and OTA upgrade"
Are they trying to say that it's the Tencent version but with global ROM? I thought OTA upgrades currently don't work on the global ROM?
They also write: " About package and firmware: we'll open the original box to check the phone and install Multi language ROM and Google paly store. Official ROM will be prefered. if custom translation may doesn't cover all the Menus. Not support OTA Update. we may update the ROM. So the OS version may different as the sreenshots."
But I think they have this as a disclaimer on all their phone product pages, whether it applies or not.
I'm trying to determine whether the listing is legit or not and whether to place an order. Did they make a mistake/ are they lying about the bands? Or is there an actual version like this/ did they manage to do something to the Tencent version? In terms of reputation, there's nothing particularly suspicious about the seller so I wouldn't imagine they would outright lie, but it's also a pretty big mistake to make, especially since they highlight the key specs (and bands) in red.
I'm leaning towards the "don't trust" side, with this one, but what do you think?
IMO, you would be better off waiting a few more days till the global version is released. That's a China version with global software, which has been nothing but trouble for most of the people i have heard about that converted.
They already told you.
This is china tencent edition. The phone is not is not brand new, we will open the box, we will turn on you phone, we will root it and unlock the bootloader, in order to replace CN ROM with WW ROM.
So, it will be 2x2, it will lack most bands, it will lack the cover and the cooling accessory included in Ww edition, which will be launched on 30th of September.
Of course, no warranty at all from ASUS and you may have trouble with NFC payments and banking apps. Some other apps may recognise your modified rom, too.
If you are ready, acknowledging all this, you can buy it asap.
Guys i have a redmi k20 pro Indian model which i got during alpha sale in India and now i have unlocked bootloader and flashed hovoc os running on it but my question is, when I checked for NFC in app i get this message saying NFC is present but not activated on my device.
I searched on forms and people say that some units might have been shipped from China to meet the demands so if my unit is also from China maybe i have NFC and i want to know how to activate that.
So my question is how to activate this NFC if it's present?
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Any info on this will be much appreciated. Thanks
Indian units don't have the NFC coil. Just ignore that false positive.
Sent from my Redmi K20 Pro using Tapatalk
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Guys i have a redmi k20 pro Indian model which i got during alpha sale in India and now i have unlocked bootloader and flashed hovoc os running on it but my question is, when I checked for NFC in app i get this message saying NFC is present but not activated on my device.
I searched on forms and people say that some units might have been shipped from China to meet the demands so if my unit is also from China maybe i have NFC and i want to know how to activate that.
So my question is how to activate this NFC if it's present?
Image attached below for reference.
Any info on this will be much appreciated. Thanks
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try to flash one of the global roms available, if your device has the nfc hardware, it'll get unlocked on global.
Regards
aashiq10 said:
Guys i have a redmi k20 pro Indian model which i got during alpha sale in India and now i have unlocked bootloader and flashed hovoc os running on it but my question is, when I checked for NFC in app i get this message saying NFC is present but not activated on my device.
I searched on forms and people say that some units might have been shipped from China to meet the demands so if my unit is also from China maybe i have NFC and i want to know how to activate that.
So my question is how to activate this NFC if it's present?
Image attached below for reference.
Any info on this will be much appreciated. Thanks
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It has never been shown for definite that Chinese models were sold in India. In the first few days after launching, a small number of people claimed they had working NFC after flashing the Chinese ROM, which led to the speculation that maybe some Chinese units were moved to India to cover demand. However it has never been verified that anyone did actually have working NFC on the earliest Indian models.
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try to flash one of the global roms available, if your device has the nfc hardware, it'll get unlocked on global.
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I did flash China miui 10.3.6 or 10.3.16 which i don't remember correctly but it showed the NFC but when i activate it doesn't activate and deactivates and closes the settings also same happened with EU miui so i guess it didn't work out. I flashed both rom via miflashtool
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It has never been shown for definite that Chinese models were sold in India. In the first few days after launching, a small number of people claimed they had working NFC after flashing the Chinese ROM, which led to the speculation that maybe some Chinese units were moved to India to cover demand. However it has never been verified that anyone did actually have working NFC on the earliest Indian models.
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Yes i agree with you on that
Hey guys. So I've been a samsung user for years now and I stopped checking XDA or rooting for a long time now. So please bear with me.
I am interested in getting this phone from AliExpress (the only way for me in the middle east).
It's obviously the chinese tencent version. The seller mentions that it is flashed with a multilanguage ROM but with no OTA updates.
He says that we can ask for pre chinese phone in a completely sealed box (running unmodified software, chinese original rom).
I personally use my phone in English only and don't care about the multilanguage thing. In fact, I've previously perfectly used a Xiaomi device running the chinese rom.
So here goes my questions:
1- Any downsides of getting the chinese version and keeping it that way to keep getting OTAs?
2- Will I be able to flash google services and apps?
3- Is it rootable and unrootable on chinese rom?
If so, will we still be able to receive OTAs when rooted?
4- Is there's any way to have call recording without root? (I mean built-in support like xiaomi phones for example)?
5- Is the RAM management really as bad as I've heard? (check this review at 6:10). I mean I want to have full use of the full use of those 8GB ram.
6- Is there any way to flash a global rom and keep getting OTAs?
Thank guys.
Buy the North American version from the Asus website and save yourself a ton of trouble. Just be aware this phone will not do VoLTE or VoWiFi with any of the USA carriers.
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Buy the North American version from the Asus website and save yourself a ton of trouble. Just be aware this phone will not do VoLTE or VoWiFi with any of the USA carriers.
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Thank you for the reply man but seems you missed the part where I said "AliExpress" is the only way I can get this phone. Also I'm not planning to pay 1000$+ for a phone.
Life Engineer said:
Thank you for the reply man but seems you missed the part where I said "AliExpress" is the only way I can get this phone. Also I'm not planning to pay 1000$+ for a phone.
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It was actually $970 with tax directly from Asus but that gets you a valid warranty and the North American LTE bands so the phone will work properly here. You may want to read through the other threads here. All of your other questions have been asked and responded to. Good luck
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It was actually $970 with tax directly from Asus but that gets you a valid warranty and the North American LTE bands so the phone will work properly here. You may want to read through the other threads here. All of your other questions have been asked and responded to. Good luck
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Why would he need NA LTE bands when he is in middle-east Asia?
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Why would he need NA LTE bands when he is in middle-east Asia?
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I don't. Can you help with my questions?
Greetings everyone ,
So apparently from the title Xiaomi Devices has stopped working in Syria starting this week ,
the devices suddenly got "locked" with a message declaring "this device is locked , Xiaomi policy doesn't allow this product in your country"
with only an option to connect to Wi-fi network ,
the devices that were reported were both India and International versions
any official announcement from Xiaomi regarding their new policy ?
also any chance to make these devices work again ? this issue will affect hundred thousands of people I will appreciate if someone can provide a solution
Thanks !
Xiaomi themselves haven't mentioned anything regarding this, but quoting an official retailer:
Xiaomi's new policy protects its products, as every product must be activated in the country it was intended to be sold in.
The solution, according to them, is return the phone to the retailer you bought it from, which they will reset, and then you need to use the phone with a SIM from that same country for at least 3 weeks
Given that I'm from Syria and considering the phone situation there, if you're importing a xiaomi phone, unlock the bootloader as soon as possible, preferably while in the country you bought it from, then solving this would be much easier.
Nebrassy said:
Xiaomi themselves haven't mentioned anything regarding this, but quoting an official retailer:
Xiaomi's new policy protects its products, as every product must be activated in the country it was intended to be sold in.
The solution, according to them, is return the phone to the retailer you bought it from, which they will reset, and then you need to use the phone with a SIM from that same country for at least 3 weeks
Given that I'm from Syria and considering the phone situation there, if you're importing a xiaomi phone, unlock the bootloader as soon as possible, preferably while in the country you bought it from, then solving this would be much easier.
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Hi! Any chance you can share the link where you quoted that response from that official retailer? I am from Cuba, where Ximi phones already stopped working. Mine is protected tho, using a custom ROM, however, I would like to clarify myself a bit anyway. TIA
I bought a Xiaomi redmi note 10s, global versión, factory unlocked, in Amazon, United States. My intention is to use it in Cuba. Could I configure it in Unite States and then use it in Cuba with no problems? This is what I’ve been thinking, since I don’t want to modify the boot loader, just use the phone as a standard user.
Can Xiaomi detect my phone If I use a SIM card from Cuba?
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Hi! Any chance you can share the link where you quoted that response from that official retailer? I am from Cuba, where Ximi phones already stopped working. Mine is protected tho, using a custom ROM, however, I would like to clarify myself a bit anyway. TIA
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I didn't ask them online
lenavel said:
I bought a Xiaomi redmi note 10s, global versión, factory unlocked, in Amazon, United States. My intention is to use it in Cuba. Could I configure it in Unite States and then use it in Cuba with no problems? This is what I’ve been thinking, since I don’t want to modify the boot loader, just use the phone as a standard user.
Can Xiaomi detect my phone If I use a SIM card from Cuba?
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The phones that are stopping are only the ones getting newly activated on those countries,
Activate the phone in the US using a US sim card for a couple of weeks then you should be good
Nebrassy said:
I didn't ask them online
The phones that are stopping are only the ones getting newly activated on those countries,
Activate the phone in the US using a US sim card for a couple of weeks then you should be good
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Hello there a quick question:
Flashing a phone with locked bootloader with miflash will fix this or not? (at least temporarily)
kamyd said:
Hello there a quick question:
Flashing the locked bootloader phone with miflash will fix this or not? (at least temporarily)
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Currently the only way to fix it is either return it to a mi service center and they'll reset it or take the phone apart and flash it with jtag
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Currently the only way to fix it is either return it to a mi service center and they'll reset it or take the phone apart and flash it with jtag
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OH MY GOD, damn them.
Thanks a lot, Then I will unlock it immediately I have Poco F3 and mi unlock passed that 7 days unlock time 5 days ago I just wanted to know if I should unlock it or not.
P.s There havent been any report of this happening here in my country but I will install a custom rom just in case
Just bought one in iran with a pretty good discount, i wonder if i should enable the bootloader or not? Should i flash it with a custom rom or not? So far no phones here have been blocked but given the fact that we are already in the sanctioned countries club i dont think it would be long before that same hapens to us too
[Update: Xiaomi says it's not targeting any specific market] Xiaomi is proactively blocking devices in certain regions to comply with export regulations
Xiaomi is proactively blocking its devices in Cuba, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Sudan, and Crimea to comply with export regulations.
www.xda-developers.com
unlock bootloader and install custom rom to avoid the trouble
Lu5ck said:
[Update: Xiaomi says it's not targeting any specific market] Xiaomi is proactively blocking devices in certain regions to comply with export regulations
Xiaomi is proactively blocking its devices in Cuba, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Sudan, and Crimea to comply with export regulations.
www.xda-developers.com
unlock bootloader and install custom rom to avoid the trouble
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Did this happen to all users of xiaomi in syria and cuba or just a selct few random devices?
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Did this happen to all users of xiaomi in syria and cuba or just a selct few random devices?
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as mentioned in the article
apparently is targeting models not approved yet by the authority for sales
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as mentioned in the article
apparently is targeting models not approved yet by the authority for sales
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As far as I know there are no authorized sellers by Xiaomi in any of those countries, so if they want to block their phones they have to do it either on everyone or none at all. I think it might have happened on some few Chinese or European versions devices smuggled into those countries Or else we would have millions of users complaining it not just some rumors with one or two pics
Hi I just bought a 512 10 pro dual sim unit, I am 100% new oneplus owner.
I am wainting on the parcel, the unit suposed to be a CN unit with global rom on in. I do not know if it will get OTA updates or not.
If not I understand I may need to manual update them, but going to oneplus support site for firmwares and stuff there is nothing for the 10 pro.
Can anyone give me some advice on this please.
Also I understand that the T Mobile is IP67 but I undestand that the "others" are same but because the payment for the certification is not stated but the units are the same. I will never go blind to "check" if that is true but any support on that will be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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Hi I just bought a 512 10 pro dual sim unit, I am 100% new oneplus owner.
I am wainting on the parcel, the unit suposed to be a CN unit with global rom on in. I do not know if it will get OTA updates or not.
If not I understand I may need to manual update them, but going to oneplus support site for firmwares and stuff there is nothing for the 10 pro.
Can anyone give me some advice on this please.
Also I understand that the T Mobile is IP67 but I undestand that the "others" are same but because the payment for the certification is not stated but the units are the same. I will never go blind to "check" if that is true but any support on that will be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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Check out my root thread if you want to root your device... also has info on unlocking the bootloader.
I would recommend using oxygen updater, it's an app from the play store that provides up to date firmwares, I'd say to turn on full updates always. Never install partial updates (incremental) if full firmwares are available.
Also what is your variant? I saw 512 but that's not a model number. It'll be 2213 or 2210 or something
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Check out my root thread if you want to root your device... also has info on unlocking the bootloader.
I would recommend using oxygen updater, it's an app from the play store that provides up to date firmwares, I'd say to turn on full updates always. Never install partial updates (incremental) if full firmwares are available.
Also what is your variant? I saw 512 but that's not a model number. It'll be 2213 or 2210 or something
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Thans for your kind reply, were do I look for the model number?
Is white one 512 gb dual sim
Hilario_Castillo_Chavarri said:
Thans for your kind reply, were do I look for the model number?
Is white one 512 gb dual sim
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Ah sorry 512GB wasn't thinking.
Your model is under settings/about device.
He has 2210 with either 2213 or 2215 rom
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He has 2210 with either 2213 or 2215 rom
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Before providing any advice it'd be better to check first...
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Before providing any advice it'd be better to check first...
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There's no question that he has 2210 with either 2213 or 2215 rom. I didn't provide any advice and I'm not going to since he has a botched phone/rom combo.
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There's no question that he has 2210 with either 2213 or 2215 rom. I didn't provide any advice and I'm not going to since he has a botched phone/rom combo.
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Then why are you commenting on this thread? (Rhetorical) I wouldn't take your word for it only theirs.. If you're not going to help them then please refrain from posting in this thread, you're not helping buddy.
I have this exact same model, bough in French shop and using it in Europe. It was I think a grey import, model sticker is 2210 and it came with Chinese only doc, but ROM (found in about) is 2215. Came with oxygen os 12 (first boot was tricky because battery was empty, charge was slow and it finally booted in the bootloader, so I was a little worried... But after a full data wipe I rebooted in oxygenos12, got normal setup with all European languages and charge at 80w. Got a normal Ota to oxygenos13 since (all the way to c26, I think it went throug two or 3 intermediate versions), no problem in the end, I didn't even had to install oxygenupdater. Phone is not rooted and look like stock, as far as I can tell. Only issue I see is that it's wifi is a little bit temperamental, I need to stop/start it when I see connection troubles... Not sure it's the phone or my router, cause it happen only at home, not in the office...maybe it's because I have both 2.4 and 5ghz on the sale ssid at home...
AFAIK this is a special version (nickname fat panda/fat dabai) which is why it's Chinese only, but being the only 512GB version I guess there is a quite a lot of imports. So grey market, but there are good chance the internationalisation is done quite well.
I am happy with my 2210->2215 ROM, at least for now, but I did not attempt any rooting or ROM customisation yet. Not sure I will, as custom scene is very quiet to say the least, regardless if your phone is Grey market or completely stock with unambiguous region lock...
Not really blaming oneplus, it's now the norm for Android with very few exceptions (pixels, nothing... And old models).
Just sad oneplus used to be one of these few exceptions...
sorry for the delay the model is NE2215
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sorry for the delay the model is NE2215
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Your model is a china model with na rom on it
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Your model is a china model with na rom on it
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2215 is NA/Global rom iirc, not North America only. I think most Grey import 512GB models will have this rom. Mine have at least, they did not install 2213 even if it was imported in France...
So far is working fine, since this is my first oneplus I do not have any other to compare.
The only "issue" is that when connecting to car unit for android auto use, the usb option list apear 2 tines so quick that I can not select the android auto option and it is only in charge mode, this was the thing that made me go for the 10 instead the 11, but now I am looking for a possible solution