Is it still worth rooting my phone? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Good morning (or evening according to timezones)
I have recently purchased a new Note8. Even though the performance is mostly great, I sometimes get lag/stutters and the battery is not that great ( I can get about 3h SOT), but if I don't have my charger with me, there's no chance to get home with the phone still on.
My question is if it is still worth it to root the phone and put a custom Rom on it. I have looked through the various custom rom threads and I am tempted to flash one.
However, my main concern is the banking applications (saw that some don't work anymore after rooting).
At the moment I am on the latest official rom (with the october security patch). I mention that I have no warranty (phone bought from other country), so that shouldn't be an issue.
Any thought please? I have been missing from the android scene for a long time, went IOS there for a while, so I am not sure how to proceed.
Thank you in advance to anyone kind enough to read all this
Bogdan

My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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robmeik said:
My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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Thank you for your reply. I also use the device maintenance and reboot it occasionally, but battery life seems to he a hit and miss for me. I do keep the phone at max resolution and with a lot of sync on, but what would be the point of having a powerful device if we don't use it
I am also a bit surprised as to the low number of custom roms available. Not complaining or anything, but looking back to my old note 2 experience, there was far more enthusiasm at that time. Though android did get better since then

No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting

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No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting
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Thank you. I'll probably leave the OS alone for now

usually i always end up not rooting for the first 4-6 months due to warranty stuff.
But the moment i rooted, i've gained at least a 20-25% increase in battery life with the usual control one can have.
If it's for cosmetics, dont need root anymore for that. not much on exposed, things like Good Lock make it stay away from root edits.
I personally root for a few apps that i use, which some of them have better features when on root. and also for debloating.

Unless you are a developer or a tech hobbyist, I don't see the point in rooting current android devices as they work perfectly fine straight out the box.

Well, when rooting you gain total control, and can run some nice and useful apps that require root, I like viper4A, but as you pointed out, some apps do not run on rooted devices, banking and streaming apps among others, and of course, there is the one very important component that you loose for ever, secure folder

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[Q] Lollipop 5.0.2 is it worth it?

Hello people i just received the OTA notification, but i'm worried to update, to be honest my phone worked pretty well till today and i'm very satisfied with it, but it's kinda annoying the notification popup , i tried to stop the service as well but it keeps popping out.
Anyways i bought this phone cause it's such a great phone for the price, and cause i knew it was going to get Lollipop update, and now that there is the update i'm kinda conflicted about so many differents comments around the forums, i checked here, some other forums, and on reddit but i couldn't find a proper review of the Pro/Cons to updating the phone to Lollipop 5.0.2 (most of the review i found were of the previous version of L, and i read that 5.0.2 got some major fixes ); so there's anyone that can kindly explain me if it regrets updating the phone, or what are the issues? battery life improvement? i know that it gets a better multitasking, but some people complain that is "sluggish"? also there's anyway to change or remove the white background from the app drawer?
thanks in advance for the help.
I updated my phone more than a month ago. At first the phone seemed sluggish ,as you said, and even after a full wipe things didn't get better. The thing is that after a few days the phone's performance was just as smooth as kitkat for me ( I guess the rom settled ) . Battery life is the same , although lollipop may seem to need more resources at times , and I also installed nova launcher with moonshine icon theme to get rid of the white app drawer background. In a nutshell , the only difference for me is the visuals / new features like ambient display which I happily use. I don't play games on my phone but I listen to music , watch videos on youtube and stay online for a few hours per day switching between apps. The only problem for me is the blurry camera ( which is also an issue on kitkat ) and the lack of actual silent mode.
ps. I would strongly recommend a full wipe before and after installing and disabling apps you dont need from settings in order to save battery and resources. Don't forget to back up everything before wiping / updating
It is worth it. The features and the UI are definitely great, but don't expect any real RAM improvements. Performance-wise, the phone still multitasks like my old Galaxy Y (which had 256mb of RAM), and I only keep WhatsApp on the background.
But hey, it's not any worse than KitKat and it's pretty, so I recommend it.
Agreed.
Material design looks good, performance is the same and so it's battery life (at least in my experience). I am happy with it.
I got the update 4 days ago and haven't had any problems. Is it faster? Hard to tell but it certainly isn't any slower.
Ram management for me is much better, no problems with multitasking, navigating listening to music, surfing the net, still shows 464Mbyte ram free and no restarts. No lag at all on any apps (59) all of which work fine.
Battery performance is in line with what I had on KitKat, which was pretty good, (Don't forget where you put your recharge cable). I have to admit that I am not a power user, (I can get up to 3 days out of one charge) but I use it a lot to record tracks with OruxMaps when I am walking, GPS on and screen off.
I don't use mobile data so have it turned off on all apps that use it, I have a separate mobile router (Much lower cost).
Finally from my experience I would say that updating was worth it, just to get rid of the terrible multitasking that came with KitKat 4.4.4.
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Samsung S3 mini gt-i8200n: so, I can't really do much anything with it?

Hi there,
I've bought this phone some months ago, first smart phone ever.
At the time I didn't pay much attention to all the rooting, rom, apps options, mostly because I had no idea what all this was about.
Now I'm getting curious, if only because the performance of my phone aren't exactly fast. If I keep the wi-fi off, battery has a decent duration, but I wouldn't call this phone extremely responsive or a phone with a smooth experience. I've replaced the launcher with something lighter, removed wallpaper, sounds, tried the kill task application (and learned that probably isn't a good idea after all, in fact I uninstalled it).
So, long story short, I started looking for a more robust way to take control of my phone and I've got here.
I understand I need to get root administration privileges in order to have more control on what I can or can't automatically run.
But at this point I'm also getting interested about rom, updating the UI which some more elegant, minimalist theme (I don't like Andoird 4.2.2 UI).
After some research on line it seems to me that with the gt-i8200n I can't run any rom. Yes, I can root it, probably at that point optimize it, but it seems I've to forget about customization or new android system releases.
Is that true?
Thanks for any clarification.
Best,
Andrew
Alright, I keep doing my homework. So, if I still want to customize my gt-i8200n without using any ROM, I think I can do it using Xposed.
I'm reading about Xposed right now, but it seems promising.
Anyone? I though the gt-i8200n had some users after all..
Wow, two days no help.
I get that people is busy, but it just seems to me no one is going to help.
bummer
it's becouse it's a not common version of the s3 mini, my cousing haves one, the only thing you can do to speed up a little bit the 8200 it's using Greenify to hibernate apps, cuz it's kinda ****ed up that there's no roms for that version.
xposed is awesome mate. Iv had androids for a while now and the first thing I used to do was find a rom, but for my last phone and my current z3, I rooted and xposed it and Im more than happy.
Sorry, cant help with a rom for you gt-i8200n though :/

Are there any major caveats with the XZ1C?

I've read through reviews, and this looks like a great phone, and the fact that it is a small phone makes it better. But will I be able to have at least root & TWRP without any major downsides?
The camera apparently loses quality, but is there a Gcam HDR+ yet?
If you stay on stock rom, the camera quality will stay the same if you use the DRM-fix.
You'll loose the ability to do OTA updates, tho.
YeshYyyK said:
I've read through reviews, and this looks like a great phone, and the fact that it is a small phone makes it better. But will I be able to have at least root & TWRP without any major downsides?
The camera apparently loses quality, but is there a Gcam HDR+ yet?
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The DRM fix made by sToRm// works on any firmware (next release) and any XZ device.
The DRM that sony installed is broken when you unlock your bootloader and sToRm//'s fix enables it. So there is no loss of quality with the camera, it's exactly as stock. The DRM is fixed or broken, the camera is fixed or broken, there is no half way 'dodgy' pictures that people imagine.
Yes, you won't receive any OTA updates if your phone is rooted, but there is Xperiafirm and Newflasher, to keep you up to date. Then reflash with sToRm//'s app and you're good to go.
In the old days you wanted to root your phone to control all the battery eating apps, but Google/Sony have been aware of the drive to extend battery life for a long time now and with a few exceptions, changing the configuration of the services will probably make your battery worse not better. The battery life on the XZ1 compact is the best of any phone I've had, straight out the box, no tweaking required.
The only other main driver for rooting your phone was to be able to customise it and change the framework colours, but you can do that without root now.
Be sure you want to root you phone for the right reasons, not because it's fashionable, or because you want Xposed installed so that when you press the volume the flash comes on.
There's a chance you'll break your phone in the process, so is what you want to root your phone for important enough to have to buy a new phone for?
I'm not trying to put you off, but if you read sToRm//'s thread, there's loads of people getting into a real mess trying to root when they don't even know what ADB is. They've unlocked their phones, broken the camera, but now stuck unable to get the fix to work. Don't go there.
If you want the Google +HDR camera, check out russel5's [XZ1C,G8441,Lilac]AOSP_8.1 rom, which comes with it baked in
Didgesteve said:
Yes, you won't receive any OTA updates if your phone is rooted, but there is Xperiafirm and Newflasher, to keep you up to date. Then reflash with sToRm//'s app and you're good to go.
In the old days you wanted to root your phone to control all the battery eating apps, but Google/Sony have been aware of the drive to extend battery life for a long time now and with a few exceptions, changing the configuration of the services will probably make your battery worse not better. The battery life on the XZ1 compact is the best of any phone I've had, straight out the box, no tweaking required.
The only other main driver for rooting your phone was to be able to customise it and change the framework colours, but you can do that without root now.
Be sure you want to root you phone for the right reasons, not because it's fashionable, or because you want Xposed installed so that when you press the volume the flash comes on.
There's a chance you'll break your phone in the process, so is what you want to root your phone for important enough to have to buy a new phone for?
I'm not trying to put you off, but if you read sToRm//'s thread, there's loads of people getting into a real mess trying to root when they don't even know what ADB is. They've unlocked their phones, broken the camera, but now stuck unable to get the fix to work. Don't go there.
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There are a few apps that require root that I'd like to use, and a lot of tweaks via TWRP flashing. The main reason really is underclocking the XZ1C, because I really don't need that much power, even if the battery life is already insane.
Thanks a lot though!

You guys feel like root is necessary?

With Android getting more optimized and efficient, as well as more feature packed every day; Do you guys (long time rooters like me) feel that root is necessary, or could provide better performance and or battery (obviously it can, but enough to matter?)
This issue is being discussed in many threads and you had to make your own?
I gave up on root with my last phone. Too much hassle, no longer the reward that made it cost effective. And with so many apps checking for root and not working as a result, I gave it up.
My major reason for going with root was more options and functionality. Both of those have pretty much been addressed for me. I don't see the need to overclock my chip anymore, I don't really need TiBu, Tasker works for what I need it to do without root, and, with the advent of the various theme stores and apps, I don't feel the need to flash unsigned zips.
So no, I don't need to root any more. Truly have no complaints on stock anymore.
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This issue is being discussed in many threads and you had to make your own?
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That was exactly what I was thinking.
lazarus0000 said:
I gave up on root with my last phone. Too much hassle, no longer the reward that made it cost effective. And with so many apps checking for root and not working as a result, I gave it up.
My major reason for going with root was more options and functionality. Both of those have pretty much been addressed for me. I don't see the need to overclock my chip anymore, I don't really need TiBu, Tasker works for what I need it to do without root, and, with the advent of the various theme stores and apps, I don't feel the need to flash unsigned zips.
So no, I don't need to root any more. Truly have no complaints on stock anymore.
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Thanks for your input, I'm on the OG Pixel rooted, and I agree with you on newer phones. On this, it's a hassel just updating to newer security patches lol
I root for titanium backup and root explorer. Mostly TB.
I started rooting my phones with the OG droid and in the beginning root was almost a necessity I rooted my droid, droid x ,x2 , droid razr, galaxy s3 and s4 but after my s4 I switched to At&t so I could get the s6 active and the active models were never popular enough for someone in the root community to find a root exploit so I was never able to root my s6 active, s7 active or my s8 active and after going through 3 phone without being able to root I got used to the lack of root access and I also noticed all the things I needed root to do were standard features now so as much as I enjoyed the whole process of rooting my phone at this point i feel like phones dont really need root access anymore. That being said if a root exploit is found for the note 9 I would for sure give it a try, i just got my note 9 and the note line being far more popular than the active line I am hoping someone finds a root exploit just so I can play around with my note and root it for old times sake lol
with root to run exposed's xprivacy(lua) , unless there are alternatives
I choose samsung pay and pass rather then root...
Not really necessary to root now.
for adblocking system wide u can use adhell 3
for youtube adblocking u can use youtube vanced
so no need for root really
I started rooting with the OG DROID. Rooted DINC2, HTC ONE M7, GNEX, Note 3 (maybe 4 I don't remeber), S7, and S8. Like others have said. Most of my reasons for rooting have been eliminated. I only rooted my s8 for the dual speaker mod (note 9 has stereo speakers) and to use volume keys to skip music tracks and to extend battery life. I'm a regular user of YouTube Vanced and Ad Hell also. So unless some really awesome mod is made, if and when SD version gets rooted, I have no reason to root. Note 9 I get just over 20 hours of use before it dies without turning on power saving mode, and it should be noted that I use my phone for everything since I don't have a pc.
I actually got the SD note 9 with the expectation that it will not be rooted seeing that Samsung has really been making it hard the last few years.
Yes, I would not use an android without root, likewise iPhone is useless for me without jailbreaks.
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I don't really need TiBu, Tasker works for what I need it to do without root,
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Tasker? Are you kidding me? Can't even properly freeze apps with it.
Titanium Bu is still crucial to slim down the load on any android device, especially from using a stock rom.
jult said:
Tasker? Are you kidding me? Can't even properly freeze apps with it.
Titanium Bu is still crucial to slim down the load on any android device, especially from using a stock rom.
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I found in my experience that getting rid of bloat ware is more of ridding myself of an offense, rather than opening up more space in my storage. Ridding myself of Facebook, Hancom office, Samsung browser, etc, makes me feel better because it's offensive that Sammy puts that crap on the phone and, until recently, you couldn't uninstall them (still can't uninstall the browser and Samsung specific stuff). But the space they take up is miniscule - a few hundred MB at most. Sure, when 8 GB was the standard for a phone, that stuff made a bit of a difference. But now that 64 GB is the standard, and you have up to 512 available, a few hundred MB isn't a big dent. And being able to disable apps, though not as satisfying as uninstalling crapware from MY phone, gets the job done.
It's a cost / benefit analysis for me. I can spend hours rooting, uninstall all that nonsense, make a few backups, flash a few zips - that's satisfying in the same way that tinkering with my car used to be. But it introduces instability to the system, custom ROMs aren't always as polished as they should be, and closes me off from some apps that I want and won't play well with root, like Netflix, my banking app, Android Pay, etc...
So long as I can get my phone themed to get rid of that blinding whiteness (#WhiteUIMustDie!) and, IMHO, Samsung's gawd awful color scheme (straight from the 70s Halloween!), disable or uninstall the worst of the offenders (Facebook, I'm looking @ you), and have an awesome phone that's stable and does what I want, root isn't really worth it to me. Cost outweighs benefit.
Go back 5 years and that's a different story. Up until my last phone, I wouldn't even consider purchasing one that was locked down. But times have changed and I'm OK with the status quo now.
I don't really think about it anymore which is weird. The only thing I miss (which is more than just root of course) are the really creative ROM scenes of the early Note and others 4-5 or so years ago. It felt like a different space. Even jailbreaks happened with frequency.
Now the manufacturers have upped their security game but along the way they took a lot of the best features that came from early rooting and ROMs. The Note is so packed at this point it's not easy to think of additional features I need.
However, if I couldn't get system wide adblock through VPN I'd consider leaving unrootable devices.
For me root is nice to have for apps like Viper because the N8 sounds bad without it. That and things like Lucky Patcher, ad block, and quite a few other apps that allow me to turn my phone into a server.
I feel that root is still a necessity to get the maximum use out of my device. If I upgrade from my Nexus 6P to the Galaxy S10 next year, it will be with the expectation that someone out there will find a root or bootloader exploit.
Pros:
-debloat all the crapware Sammy installs
-install ROM/mod to activate flashlight with power button with screen off (absolute necessity for me)
-full Tasker support
-increase number of quick toggles
-Viper4Android (you haven't really listened to music on a phone until you've used this app)
-maintain Google/Samsung Pay support with MagiskSu
Cons:
Be careful when updating unless you're on a custom ROM.
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I choose samsung pay and pass rather then root...
Not really necessary to root now.
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I tend to agree, rooted every phone I have owned until my S8+ when I decided not to.
Same with Note 9
root is always needed imo for various reasons
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-maintain Google/Samsung Pay support with MagiskSu
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Samsung Pay isn't compatible with root, as soon as you root you trip Knox and you lose Samsung Pay forever, even if you unroot/flash stock (because Knox has been tripped once).

Note 3 vs Note 4 for modding and in general

Hi all.
Have been modding and playing around with Note 4 and the emmc fault is a bi*ch. If it works, you never know when the damn thing will stop functioning. And the phone itself is always a bit buggy with custom roms. I noticed that several people here compare it to Note 3 and mean that Note 3 overall has certain advantages, easier to modd, less buggy, and of course, is not plagued with emmc fault. Don't get me wrong, i have several units and i really like the damn thing.
So i would like to ask all you who actually HAVE experience of both, write here a line or two, and compare those two. Which one is actually more thankfull for modding? N4 being of course newer, but does it make that big of a dirfference?
Hi, i don't have an note 3, i have and use a note 4, very happy with the phone running android 6.01 heavy customized and with the best kernel (ram Kernel v8.1 never had any issues with emmc or any other for that matter, it runs very smooth with no problems, battery last for a week, standby 0.4% per hour.
Ok. Difficult to make comparison then since you have no experience with Note 3, but thanx anyway.
Sounds good tho. May I ask then how your setup looks like, since having a battery last for a week is really an achievment?
System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1 removed a lot of user apps that i don't need and also a lot of system apps that drain your battery, i use magisk for root and have two modules in use GPU Turbo Boost (not sure if this does anything but i leave it anyway installed) and Swap Torpedo (no swap file that saves battery) i use for tweaks the L Speed app and some build.prop tweaks most of them are from goldeneye rom.
Apps:
I use Ungoogled Chromium, this browser is memory and battery friendly as it does not call home all the time and i don't use social media apps as they are all battery hogs, i have about 50 apps installed and i use afwall for firewall and as email i use exchange push email with stock email client.
I tried almost every rom available for the note 4 910F but all suck in battery or the pen is not working, with a lot of trial and error in debloating the rom i stick with the one i have now, i am running it for 3 years and i am a happy camper. I love this phone with the pen the screen size and the exchangeable battery, it runs for a week with one charge 7 days with 3 hours and 43 minutes screen on, the onscreen time (backlight slider at 1/3 and dark color wallpaper) is about 7 hours in one go and it uses 0.4 battery per hour in standby (measured with GSam Battery Monitor since 1 year). I had newer phone they are all made of glass, no battery exchange and no earphone connector. Long story short, great phone . If you like to have the build.prop tweaks i can give them to you. The L speed app you can download from XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/l-speed.6156/ .
Cheers
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System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1 removed a lot of user apps that i don't need and also a lot of system apps that drain your battery, i use magisk for root and have two modules in use GPU Turbo Boost (not sure if this does anything but i leave it anyway installed) and Swap Torpedo (no swap file that saves battery) i use for tweaks the L Speed app and some build.prop tweaks most of them are from goldeneye rom.
Apps:
I use Ungoogled Chromium, this browser is memory and battery friendly as it does not call home all the time and i don't use social media apps as they are all battery hogs, i have about 50 apps installed and i use afwall for firewall and as email i use exchange push email with stock email client.
I tried almost every rom available for the note 4 910F but all suck in battery or the pen is not working, with a lot of trial and error in debloating the rom i stick with the one i have now, i am running it for 3 years and i am a happy camper. I love this phone with the pen the screen size and the exchangeable battery, it runs for a week with one charge 7 days with 3 hours and 43 minutes screen on, the onscreen time (backlight slider at 1/3 and dark color wallpaper) is about 7 hours in one go and it uses 0.4 battery per hour in standby (measured with GSam Battery Monitor since 1 year). I had newer phone they are all made of glass, no battery exchange and no earphone connector. Long story short, great phone . If you like to have the build.prop tweaks i can give them to you. The L speed app you can download from XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/l-speed.6156/ .
Cheers
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Thank you very much for the offer, but build props are way over my experience level, i think.
Btw, love the phone for the same reason as you do.
Besides, i am quite happy customer also, running @AnonVendetta s version of really bareboned stock 6.01. No Google, microG instead. No root. Not many apps. I probably could get a week out of a battery also with light use that i usually do. But i use Signal, and i just yesterday discovered that the damn thing just chugs battery like mad if you don't have Play Service installed. So with it installed i get at best a days use, with very light using of the phone.
I am currently rocking a Note 3 on Sprint and running Android 10 (Superior OS) and works great. All the convencience of Android with my removable battery and IR blaster (yes I use it for multiple TV's in multiple buildings I control). I use the S-Pen on Squid to take notes and jot down info and even mark up pictures so don't need Air Command. I sync with my FitBit Versa and run multiple smart home devices from the phone (including my whole home entertainment with the PEEL app).
The only 'complaint' I have is the bluetooth. There was a major problem past Android 7 of geting the thing to work. It does now. Voice and music work good. But occassionally it will just drop the device it connects to. I will re esablsih about 10 seconds later but still, that loses the lock on my Jeep radio and therefore keeps allowing the screen to lock. This is a minor annoyance but does need to be mentioned.
I JUST bought a Note 4 so thinking of loading LOS 17 on it and see how it goes. However I see most people here just kept stock Marshmellow. I dunno aobut that... isnt the UI buggy and limiting?
I look forward to any advice I can get!
Hi Dave,
I also use the IR remote for all my home appliance (dvbviewer TV on my pc, living room and bedroom tv and Bose audio system, i use the ir plus app great remote control app and it still gets updates, about the roms available for the note 4 i have the snapdragon version and i have tried all roms but i stay on stock 6.01 the MM version is not buggy at all, it never have problems, hangs crashes or reboots, i use the stock launcher smooth and fast, the UI interface is not important, the apps i use are all in dark mode, for me it's important i can use it the way i like it and it does. NOTE 4 still rocks like a champ with all the advantage it has. If this one breaks i will look for a other note 4, no newer phone for me. I dont know what version you have but try some rome you will see you will go back to 6.01 mm, its rock solid and battery friendly. Bluetooth on the note 4 sucks for battery use but does not crash or breaks anything, i have a gear fit2 pro but i dont connect it with the phone all the time just to sync .
Cheers
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I am currently rocking a Note 3 on Sprint and running Android 10 (Superior OS) and works great. All the convencience of Android with my removable battery and IR blaster (yes I use it for multiple TV's in multiple buildings I control). I use the S-Pen on Squid to take notes and jot down info and even mark up pictures so don't need Air Command. I sync with my FitBit Versa and run multiple smart home devices from the phone (including my whole home entertainment with the PEEL app).
The only 'complaint' I have is the bluetooth. There was a major problem past Android 7 of geting the thing to work. It does now. Voice and music work good. But occassionally it will just drop the device it connects to. I will re esablsih about 10 seconds later but still, that loses the lock on my Jeep radio and therefore keeps allowing the screen to lock. This is a minor annoyance but does need to be mentioned.
I JUST bought a Note 4 so thinking of loading LOS 17 on it and see how it goes. However I see most people here just kept stock Marshmellow. I dunno aobut that... isnt the UI buggy and limiting?
I look forward to any advice I can get!
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For me LOS17 was a no go because of the SIM issue and lack of encryption. I saw other having other issues. If i were you and needed something newer than marshmallow, then i would try LOS16. I found that one to be very stable, no issues so far for my use. Will perhaps migrate to that one with my daily driver in a while, when stock starts failing.
As for stock 6.0.1, not sure where you heard it was buggy?! I read that marshmallow was if not the least buggy Android OS ever and that is also my experience, at least on Note 4. I totally agree with @Qosmio-. It is the most rock solid rom i have ever had on a device. NEVER had any bugs, issues or anything. Battery friendly. I find launcher smooth, and run UI in 'easy mode', which i find the most appealing, colorwise and all. The perfect OS basically, if there ever was one. I have heard people starting to find apps that are no longer supported, but all apps that are important to me still work.
but wait - you use PEEL app as remote?
Wasn't that completely hidious advertisment-prone bloatware that was utterly unpleasant to use?
prkfsz said:
but wait - you use PEEL app as remote?
Wasn't that completely hidious advertisment-prone bloatware that was utterly unpleasant to use?
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I only meant 'buggy' as outdated and unable to use the full Google Assistant features etc... Thats why I moved to newer ROMS Not as smooth and primitive features. I should try myself before I speak the negative about it!
So let's talk about PEEL.
The magic is to use this with Titanium Backup. I must say, PEEL can be set up to use and manage "scenarios" (Home, Work, Friend's House etc). If you set it up..
1.go in and click to NOT auto detect WiFi connections
2.disable advertising and lock screen and persistant notifications for 30 days.
3. Set up a Custom Remote Scenario
4. Create a Widget for the App to default on Custom Remote
3. Do a TB of the app!
I have found, on the newer ROM's it stays Ad Free.. but if it gets weird to annoying just do a TB restore "data only" and then you are golden!
Ive tried lots of other 3rd party apps but I keep going back to PEEL. It stays ad free and as a remote (not as a channel guide) it works exremely well, is desined well and functions well.
Hit me up if you want more specifics! Maybe I should start a 'how to' thread..
Dave
Qosmio- said:
i stay on stock 6.01 the MM version is not buggy at all, it never have problems
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Arent you worried about Security Updates?
Unidave199 said:
Arent you worried about Security Updates?
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No not at all, i protect my use of internet at home and phone ( i am system engineer for 35 years so i know what i can and can't do), if you look what still need to be patched for android Exploits vulnerability-list , every new or old version of android user is @ risk. When connected with my phone to internet via my provider it will change the phones ip address every 15 minutes, i use a firewall (afwall) on my phone and disabled ipv6, i am connected to my home with openvpn to pfsense firewall for internet access and i use my own MS exchange mail server and dns server resolver with ad and privacy telemetry filter with pfblocker. There are things you don't do with old version of android and that is visite websites that are shady, porn websites and browse without a strong ad blocker or privacy filter.
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System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1
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So I did it! I made the jump. I am using the Q15 Plus Tidbits VB3 Rom. And udated firmware. Do you have a link to the ROM you are using?
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So I did it! I made the jump. I am using the Q15 Plus Tidbits VB3 Rom. And udated firmware. Do you have a link to the ROM you are using?
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Wel since 2 weeks some government (tax/digi id ect) apps we use in nl does not support android 6 anymore and i use them often so i had to jump to android 10 and using this rom Crdroid
If you like to try don't download from first page but from here Mega
I use it for a week now (with some tweaks) and this is the only android 10 rom that works and looks great, battery is not as good as with android 6 but i have to accept that, i am not ready yet to dump the note 4.
Cheers
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Wel since 2 weeks some government (tax/digi id ect) apps we use in nl does not support android 6 anymore and i use them often so i had to jump to android 10 and using this rom Crdroid
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I had tried using some Liniage Versions but on the Sprint Variant they woulnt make phone calls or text so I had to ditch them. I am downloading now so will give it a flash and see! Thank you for the heads up!
Dave
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Ok.. loaded up the Crdroid ROM. Working well, but with my SM 910P I am having bluetooth problems keeping sync with my Fitbit, Lack of LTE (but works on 3G) and a few other bugs but am managing. What carrier are you with? I would appreciate any tweeks you have found to help out.
Dave
Unidave199 said:
I had tried using some Liniage Versions but on the Sprint Variant they woulnt make phone calls or text so I had to ditch them. I am downloading now so will give it a flash and see! Thank you for the heads up!
Dave
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Ok.. loaded up the Crdroid ROM. Working well, but with my SM 910P I am having bluetooth problems keeping sync with my Fitbit, Lack of LTE (but works on 3G) and a few other bugs but am managing. What carrier are you with? I would appreciate any tweeks you have found to help out.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Sorry for the late reply, i just read your post in the cdroid section, i am with simpel carrier i dont have any problems using LTE and have no problem with sms (i dont use mms) , the only tweaks is with the L speed app and kernel auditor to lower the idle frequentie of the GPU and set it to 166 instead of 240 to save battery. My gear fit2 pro on bluetooth works fine to so i am a happy camper. What you could try is other modems from other stock roms if you did not try that already maybe that helps with you LTE problem.
Cheers
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Hi Dave,
Sorry for the late reply, i just read your post in the cdroid section, i am with simpel carrier i dont have any problems using LTE and have no problem with sms (i dont use mms) , the only tweaks is with the L speed app and kernel auditor to lower the idle frequentie of the GPU and set it to 166 instead of 240 to save battery. My gear fit2 pro on bluetooth works fine to so i am a happy camper. What you could try is other modems from other stock roms if you did not try that already maybe that helps with you LTE problem.
Cheers
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Sorry for all the bouncing around in the forums. Trying to play Note 4 catchup...
Well that is an interesting thought. As a CDMA carrier customer (Sprint) I feel I am locked into my own island.
Can I just do a stock modem restore in TWRP onto my CRDroid ROM ? I am not at all sure why my Bluetooth is having such a problem with my Versa 2.. Maybe it is the versa problem?
Anyways, I can see a bit where the Note 4 gets laggy with camera use and running a few other commands at once. I know this is older but my Note 3 did not seem to hesatate this much. I like the idea of considering lowering my GPU.
Let me know if you have any other thoughts?
Dave
Np Dave there is so much information to take in that i can't blame you when bouncing aroubnd in the forum , You can and must make a backup with twrp of your modem in use and then fiddle around with different versions, its very easy to rip modems with 7zip from different original roms and zip (7zip) them to flash it with twrp. As for bluetooth it can be a pain in the ass with custom roms especially with asop roms, do some searches in the forum maybe someone has the same issue as you have.
Cheers
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. As for bluetooth it can be a pain in the ass with custom roms especially with asop roms, do some searches in the forum maybe someone has the same issue as you have.
Cheers
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I found a forum that says to go into the application and wipe data and cache and then I went into TWRP and wiped ART/Cache. That seems to help with the 'Bluetooth Keeps Stopping" error. I have tried to load several other ROM's but they wont install due to Error 7 codes. I supsect becuase I updated to the Q15 version and these older ROMS arent being updated. So I will keep trying to nurse the CrDroid 10 version and see if it can be improved..
I'm not an expert but for me.. note 3 is more stabLe than note 4 when it comes to custom rom. Easier to mod, and Less buggy. ( thanks to aLL deveLopers at kay Lodi @jprimero15 )
TiLL now stiLL Looking for a rom that can fit note 4 for daiLy usage.
Thanks
I am using Emotion Kernel, and Xposed. I will just to Android 12 at the moment it will be available.
I never used the Note 3, but i wonder is it faster than the Note 4 in daily usage. The Note 4 Snapdragon CPU is a frying pan and it can strongly reduce its performance when it gets hot.
My phone will in consequence randomly reboot, but i have a simple script that detects overheating and lower the CPU freq (works good)
Is the Note 3 quick and doesn't overheat when browsing internet?

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